I see a lot of replies about legal torrents, false accusations, etc. These kind of news items tend to be purposely sensational and leave out the practical stuff. I'm pretty sure that in reality their P2P filter will check which torrent tracker is used before determining whether something should be forwarded to the police or not. Sure it's possible that "illegal" trackers host something legal, but I bet it will get them a 99% accuracy or better.
That said, a school should simply block all torrent use and leave it at that. While there are legal *uses* for torrents in a school, I don't see a *need* for them. Most things are available by "regular" download as well and, if not, the school can provide it themselves. No need to make things complicated or ugly.
You'll be surprised how many ISP's actually already do block certain countries. Nigeria and China are frequently blocked. Not just by ISP's, but also by websites individually. (And yes I did double-check that it was not China itself doing the blocking.)
It won't teach him a lesson because he didn't make a death threat. Instead it instills fear into other people who have to increasingly worry about what they say and how they say it.
Ah. So mentally ill persons are also barred from watching action movies? novels? pictures? thoughts of their own? Not to mention that you can easily coax a fragile person into committing murder without literally asking for it.
Ridiculous. I can appreciate that talking about bombs while going through airport security is not appropriate, but a joke on Twitter? Come on already! Who says who says what. Don't like it, don't follow him - that's sort of the whole point of how these social networks work.
IMHO, upload is becoming increasingly important. More and more people are stuffing things onto cloud drives, youtube's, video calls, etc.
As for the distance in Netherlands: where I lived the TV cable divider was rarely more than 500m away. Much better than copper, which I was usually 4-6km away from.
I don't know about Harderwijk, but in the places where I've lived in NL there would be a tube from the house to the street, limiting the trenches to the actual street. There would be no trenches on your property.
Regardless, you're right. FTTH is (at this moment) unjustifiably expensive and disruptive when an alternative like this is available.
Google never left China. I live right next to their Beijing office and they've never stopped recruiting or growing. All they did is moved Google Search to their Hong Kong servers and moved some people back and forth between their Shanghai and Beijing offices.
Please note though that Chinese courts have a history of showing "fairness", where the definition of fair is probably different from yours.
E.g. if my truck driver drives off a cliff while delivering the goods you ordered to you, you usually can't sue me for the loss of the goods. Instead you're likely to be asked to share in the total costs of the truck, the goods and damages to the drivers family. The fact that you did not directly employ the driver nor owned the truck does not matter. To the court, that's just meaningless paperwork. The driver and the truck were doing a job for you.
Some holes aren't to be closed. Foreign simcards roaming to an uncensored Internet is not a new thing. Neither are VPN services. With the exception of some politically funded organizations who offered these services for free, these routes have _never_ been blocked. (I've been using them in China since 1997.)
The idea of censorship is not to restrict information from everybody. It's to prevent the masses from rebelling against the government. Those are two very different objectives.
The government wants to prevent bad news in Chinese from spreading like wildfire and upsetting a billion people. But they don't care about a few million relatively educated people with money to spend to bypass the GFW. It's the same group of people who can afford to travel abroad, etc. Why bother restricting them.
Like I said in my other post. Anyone using any device with a non-Chinese simcard has full Internet access.
You don't have to put your phone out of sight - it's fully legal as long as you do not share your device or the content retrieved with a Chinese national.
Yes a lot of schools teach some English, but aside from the middle-to-upper class youth in the big cities, nobody will actually use it. When was the last time you Googled in French to find out what the french media write about your own country? It's just not something you do that quickly. And if you did, how far did 2 years of french class really get you when it comes to reading political articles?
Chinese material simply spreads much, much faster and hence gets most of the censors attention.
LOL. Tiny detail though: it's American Cisco staff in the US of A which still does all the maintenance. I know first hand they have full access, including to the block lists, filters, etc.
This has nothing to do with the kindle and everything with foreign simcards.
Foreign simcards have always been able to access the uncensored Internet in China, simply due to how roaming works. (Likewise a Chinese simcard in a western country will still find the Internet in it's censored form.) European pre-paid simcards have been traded in China for years now.
Of course an article about a 'belgian simcard' isn't nearly as internesting as the Kindle or i-Anything, but this is non-news nontheless.
Indeed. Source please. It makes no sense at all. Anything not in the constitutions can be nullified by any state who wishes to do so. The only way treaties can be superior is if it says so in the constitution, which it doesn't.
Good to see someone stand up.. but really? now? So many laws in US are unconstitutional. Not surprising, considering the supreme court is a federal one and the states have turned in to cute little kittens too afraid to use their powers to correct the feds.
Recommended reading: nullification by thomas e. woods. (Please read it before saying it sucks.)
I walk around with 2 phones, and iPad and a laptop every day. In the business circles where I participate this is not exactly an exception.
If tech is not useful in certain classes, then just don't use it in THOSE classes. Hell, go ahead and block Facebook on the school network. But don't come up with this bull that tech in school is nothing more than a distraction. If anything, school should be teaching our kids more about how to use tech to our advantage in daily life.
You don't need to do anything do use both. Even if they're in your pocket, both devices could be calling home on the WiFi network every now and then.
2 devices is not overkill. Every modern phone these days has WiFI, which leaves you with just 1 more to carry, which could be a laptop or a pad, not necessarily both.
I see a lot of replies about legal torrents, false accusations, etc. These kind of news items tend to be purposely sensational and leave out the practical stuff. I'm pretty sure that in reality their P2P filter will check which torrent tracker is used before determining whether something should be forwarded to the police or not. Sure it's possible that "illegal" trackers host something legal, but I bet it will get them a 99% accuracy or better.
That said, a school should simply block all torrent use and leave it at that. While there are legal *uses* for torrents in a school, I don't see a *need* for them. Most things are available by "regular" download as well and, if not, the school can provide it themselves. No need to make things complicated or ugly.
You'll be surprised how many ISP's actually already do block certain countries. Nigeria and China are frequently blocked. Not just by ISP's, but also by websites individually. (And yes I did double-check that it was not China itself doing the blocking.)
It won't teach him a lesson because he didn't make a death threat. Instead it instills fear into other people who have to increasingly worry about what they say and how they say it.
Ah. So mentally ill persons are also barred from watching action movies? novels? pictures? thoughts of their own? Not to mention that you can easily coax a fragile person into committing murder without literally asking for it.
No he did not. He made a joke. If you can't tell the difference that's really just your problem.
Ridiculous. I can appreciate that talking about bombs while going through airport security is not appropriate, but a joke on Twitter? Come on already! Who says who says what. Don't like it, don't follow him - that's sort of the whole point of how these social networks work.
IMHO, upload is becoming increasingly important. More and more people are stuffing things onto cloud drives, youtube's, video calls, etc.
As for the distance in Netherlands: where I lived the TV cable divider was rarely more than 500m away. Much better than copper, which I was usually 4-6km away from.
I don't know about Harderwijk, but in the places where I've lived in NL there would be a tube from the house to the street, limiting the trenches to the actual street. There would be no trenches on your property.
Regardless, you're right. FTTH is (at this moment) unjustifiably expensive and disruptive when an alternative like this is available.
Google never left China. I live right next to their Beijing office and they've never stopped recruiting or growing. All they did is moved Google Search to their Hong Kong servers and moved some people back and forth between their Shanghai and Beijing offices.
Please note though that Chinese courts have a history of showing "fairness", where the definition of fair is probably different from yours.
E.g. if my truck driver drives off a cliff while delivering the goods you ordered to you, you usually can't sue me for the loss of the goods. Instead you're likely to be asked to share in the total costs of the truck, the goods and damages to the drivers family. The fact that you did not directly employ the driver nor owned the truck does not matter. To the court, that's just meaningless paperwork. The driver and the truck were doing a job for you.
Some holes aren't to be closed. Foreign simcards roaming to an uncensored Internet is not a new thing. Neither are VPN services. With the exception of some politically funded organizations who offered these services for free, these routes have _never_ been blocked. (I've been using them in China since 1997.)
The idea of censorship is not to restrict information from everybody. It's to prevent the masses from rebelling against the government. Those are two very different objectives.
The government wants to prevent bad news in Chinese from spreading like wildfire and upsetting a billion people. But they don't care about a few million relatively educated people with money to spend to bypass the GFW. It's the same group of people who can afford to travel abroad, etc. Why bother restricting them.
Like I said in my other post. Anyone using any device with a non-Chinese simcard has full Internet access.
You don't have to put your phone out of sight - it's fully legal as long as you do not share your device or the content retrieved with a Chinese national.
Yes a lot of schools teach some English, but aside from the middle-to-upper class youth in the big cities, nobody will actually use it. When was the last time you Googled in French to find out what the french media write about your own country? It's just not something you do that quickly. And if you did, how far did 2 years of french class really get you when it comes to reading political articles?
Chinese material simply spreads much, much faster and hence gets most of the censors attention.
LOL. Tiny detail though: it's American Cisco staff in the US of A which still does all the maintenance. I know first hand they have full access, including to the block lists, filters, etc.
This has nothing to do with the kindle and everything with foreign simcards.
Foreign simcards have always been able to access the uncensored Internet in China, simply due to how roaming works. (Likewise a Chinese simcard in a western country will still find the Internet in it's censored form.) European pre-paid simcards have been traded in China for years now.
Of course an article about a 'belgian simcard' isn't nearly as internesting as the Kindle or i-Anything, but this is non-news nontheless.
If only that were true. Removing the rights of citizens just pushes terrorists into the government. It's a vicious circle.
Please. Not another sink hole.
The original poster said Treaties are superior to the CONSTITUTION, not state laws.
Proud of this accomplishment! Mostly though that they arrived without any flat tires!
It does, because the supreme court is in Obama's pocket and the states have lost the balls to nullify.
What are you implying? That nullification, a perfect constitutional tool, should be avoid because of International pressure?
Besides, China is not included, I don't see them suffer from it any time soon.
Indeed. Source please. It makes no sense at all. Anything not in the constitutions can be nullified by any state who wishes to do so. The only way treaties can be superior is if it says so in the constitution, which it doesn't.
Good to see someone stand up.. but really? now? So many laws in US are unconstitutional. Not surprising, considering the supreme court is a federal one and the states have turned in to cute little kittens too afraid to use their powers to correct the feds.
Recommended reading: nullification by thomas e. woods. (Please read it before saying it sucks.)
I walk around with 2 phones, and iPad and a laptop every day. In the business circles where I participate this is not exactly an exception.
If tech is not useful in certain classes, then just don't use it in THOSE classes. Hell, go ahead and block Facebook on the school network. But don't come up with this bull that tech in school is nothing more than a distraction. If anything, school should be teaching our kids more about how to use tech to our advantage in daily life.
You don't need to do anything do use both. Even if they're in your pocket, both devices could be calling home on the WiFi network every now and then.
2 devices is not overkill. Every modern phone these days has WiFI, which leaves you with just 1 more to carry, which could be a laptop or a pad, not necessarily both.