Yeah, until your relatives start emailing you.wpd pics 'cause they're using Vista & it says "do you want me to prepare the pictues on this device for email?" when they plug in their digital camera.
I note in the license agreement that:
Agreement does not give You rights under any Microsoft patents.
So you can download the spec to comment on it or to:
as a reference to assist You in planning and designing Your product, service or technology ("Product") to interface with a Microsoft product, specification, service or technology
Nice. Go ahead & implement this, but you've agreed that you don't have the rights to any patents that cover it.
Get it through your head. Darwin is not exclusively made up of XNU.
But you said darwin was open source. If one component of its closed, then you can't call the whole open.
Darwin is mostly open source.
Aaaah, 'mostly open source' kinda like being 'mostly pregnant' don't you think?
When Apple releases the sources for x86 XNU is up to them
Yes, I agree with you there - Darwin x86 has the potential to become open source. But as Apple, like you say have given no indication as to when (or if) its going to be made open source. I'm just going to have to call Darwin closed.
but they haven't said that they won't.
You've spent 15 posts defending a company's product as open source, when you admit they haven't said its open. Sad.
1) Its not available for download (you can't view the source) 2) It's been that way for months 3) Apple hasn't said it's open source (no statement)
But you're still a believer that Darwin is Open Source!
Well, such faith is touching (if a little naive), so I'll give you credit for that.
Anyway dude, long weekend for me - some Christian holiday here in the Netherlands - going to head out - I look forward to your inevitable reply on my awakening.
PS - I note you have not added me as your friend? Haven't you read my sig?:-x
First - thank you for you comment, it's one of the most thoughtful replies I've had.
So Google won't link to the newmediajournal.us as a news website, but they will link to socialist worker.org?
I don't believe google news does link to socialistworker.org. I can't find anything from them searching news source:socialistworker.org - if I just search for socialistworker.org, there is only one result - for a different site.
Do you think this means that google news is cutting off non-news blogs that parade as news fairly?
Well no, it happened many centuries ago. Does that make it an invalid topic of discussion?
Of course its a valid topic of discussion - just like Jesus's relationship with Mary (Magdalen), or a host of other contrevsial religions topics.
Do you think it is news however? Remember - thats what we're discussing. It's not like google has pulled them from their main index - they're just not indexing them in their news agragator.
Is it really tacky of me to smile at the nightly scenes on TV showing Arab, Afghani and Pakistani Muslims bombing mosques and killing their Muslim brothers, sisters and children at a brisk pace because that's all they know how to do?
You believe someone saying an entire religion is incapable of doing anything but killing is not hate speech?
Interesting. Where can I subscribe to your newsletter?
Before all the anti-RMS wingnuts come crawling out, RTFA - RMS isn't criticising Sun for not opening Java, he's criticising the community & the media for their confused reporting (or endorsement) of the story (see Open Source Java? for a typical example).
[mildly offtopic] - Does anyone know what the significance of the title stallaman chose? It's too close to the book to not be a reference, but I'm just not getting it...
I'm not sure what it is that you expected Steve Jobs to do in this case. Open source OS X so that would be compatible?
I think Steve Jobs should have done nothing. He knew OS X was unsuitable as it wasn't Open Source & required too much overhead without heavy customisation. Knowing that - why did he offer?
To me, he just looked like a child annoyed that someone else's toy was getting more attention then his.
Face it, you're letting your enjoyment of tormenting mac fanatics (which is commendable most of the time) get in the way of your grasp of reality.
I have never let facts get in my way:D
There's plenty you can needle us Mac users about without spinning facts like a GOP drone.
True, true, but I do try and keep things at least vaguely on topic...
If you don't think the majority of slashdot readers are liberal, you are the dimwitted one.
And if you don't see that liberal is an extremely subjective term, then you're the dimwitted one.
For instance, from where I'm sitting in the Netherlands, most posters on slashdot seem conservative, but I imagine that someone reading slashdot from Saudi Arabia would see most posters as Liberal.
I presume that from where your sitting, you would see most posters as Liberal, but I hope you can also see that Liberalism/Conservatism are comparative terms.
Slashdot Mirror
The signal or the poster?
It's hard to see how even MS's third-rate programmers could make the PNG support worse than it is in IE6.
I meant downgrade the support that exists in IE7 beta (and at least supports alpha transparancy from what I read)
Yeah, until your relatives start emailing you
I note in the license agreement that:So you can download the spec to comment on it or to:Nice. Go ahead & implement this, but you've agreed that you don't have the rights to any patents that cover it.
So, my question is fundamentally..........WHY?
DRM.
(Oh, and expect PNG support in IE7 to be downgraded)
Darwin = open source
:-( XNU is closed.
Not anymore
Darwin = Open/closed hybrid.
Last time I checked OS X is based on BSD. Since BSD is open source, the kids would have access to the source.
You haven't checked for a while then.
OS X as shipped on new macs has a closed source kernel & some bsd derived userland tools.
Shipping XP + Services for Unix would give you a similar amount of open source.
Get it through your head. Darwin is not exclusively made up of XNU.
But you said darwin was open source. If one component of its closed, then you can't call the whole open.
Darwin is mostly open source.
Aaaah, 'mostly open source' kinda like being 'mostly pregnant' don't you think?
When Apple releases the sources for x86 XNU is up to them
Yes, I agree with you there - Darwin x86 has the potential to become open source. But as Apple, like you say have given no indication as to when (or if) its going to be made open source. I'm just going to have to call Darwin closed.
but they haven't said that they won't.
You've spent 15 posts defending a company's product as open source, when you admit they haven't said its open. Sad.
Right, so you admit:
:-x
1) Its not available for download (you can't view the source)
2) It's been that way for months
3) Apple hasn't said it's open source (no statement)
But you're still a believer that Darwin is Open Source!
Well, such faith is touching (if a little naive), so I'll give you credit for that.
Anyway dude, long weekend for me - some Christian holiday here in the Netherlands - going to head out - I look forward to your inevitable reply on my awakening.
PS - I note you have not added me as your friend? Haven't you read my sig?
You're probably right - I should've made it clearer.
:-/
In my defense, I did link to the source material nine times in the post.
First - thank you for you comment, it's one of the most thoughtful replies I've had.
So Google won't link to the newmediajournal.us as a news website, but they will link to socialist worker.org?
I don't believe google news does link to socialistworker.org. I can't find anything from them searching news source:socialistworker.org - if I just search for socialistworker.org, there is only one result - for a different site.
Do you think this means that google news is cutting off non-news blogs that parade as news fairly?
Well no, it happened many centuries ago. Does that make it an invalid topic of discussion?
Of course its a valid topic of discussion - just like Jesus's relationship with Mary (Magdalen), or a host of other contrevsial religions topics.
Do you think it is news however? Remember - thats what we're discussing. It's not like google has pulled them from their main index - they're just not indexing them in their news agragator.
Is it really tacky of me to smile at the nightly scenes on TV showing Arab, Afghani and Pakistani Muslims bombing mosques and killing their Muslim brothers, sisters and children at a brisk pace because that's all they know how to do?
You believe someone saying an entire religion is incapable of doing anything but killing is not hate speech?
Interesting. Where can I subscribe to your newsletter?
It's not news. Get it now?
They were the photos of the first prototype.
The photo's we're looking at on flickr are that prototype and two (three?) more models.
While I'm not aware of all the req's on this project, I suspect that if they striped OS X down it could run on that hardware.
But they can't strip os x down without (3) the source can they?
Why has no one mentioned incorporating these little machines into our own school systems? They're significantly cheaper than Win or Mac notebooks,
MS & Apple would lobby & sue it out of existence.
Thank you - you put it for more elequontly then I ever could.
Aaaah, Thanks! I completely missed that!
Because it's obvious the OS X without the source was not going to be of any use on these laptops.
Jobs new that - therefore his motivation for making the offer was not altruistic.
I take it your comment indicates you agree with google that these sites are not 'news' sites then?
Before all the anti-RMS wingnuts come crawling out, RTFA - RMS isn't criticising Sun for not opening Java, he's criticising the community & the media for their confused reporting (or endorsement) of the story (see Open Source Java? for a typical example).
[mildly offtopic] - Does anyone know what the significance of the title stallaman chose? It's too close to the book to not be a reference, but I'm just not getting it...
Thanks :-)
I do aim to please!
That was useful.
Bedankt!
I'm not sure what it is that you expected Steve Jobs to do in this case. Open source OS X so that would be compatible?
:D
I think Steve Jobs should have done nothing. He knew OS X was unsuitable as it wasn't Open Source & required too much overhead without heavy customisation. Knowing that - why did he offer?
To me, he just looked like a child annoyed that someone else's toy was getting more attention then his.
Face it, you're letting your enjoyment of tormenting mac fanatics (which is commendable most of the time) get in the way of your grasp of reality.
I have never let facts get in my way
There's plenty you can needle us Mac users about without spinning facts like a GOP drone.
True, true, but I do try and keep things at least vaguely on topic...
If you don't think the majority of slashdot readers are liberal, you are the dimwitted one.
And if you don't see that liberal is an extremely subjective term, then you're the dimwitted one.
For instance, from where I'm sitting in the Netherlands, most posters on slashdot seem conservative, but I imagine that someone reading slashdot from Saudi Arabia would see most posters as Liberal.
I presume that from where your sitting, you would see most posters as Liberal, but I hope you can also see that Liberalism/Conservatism are comparative terms.