Being HBM and the HBCC are two of the defining characteristics of a Vega core (AMDs words, not mine), I guess the Vega 8 on the Ryzen 2200 isn't a Vega either.
No, it's not that simple. Stupid people love to simplify that which they don't understand. Makes the world easier to swallow for them. Carry on, soldier;)
Yes. The biggest problem I've had with the old stuff is getting DX8 and 9 to not shit its pants while struggling between accepting that I have a 4K screen, and 2 GPUs
So far, I have managed to successfully get everything old I've tried to run, after a bit of work.
Most common fix was setting desktop resolution to 1080P before running game.
Yawn.
It's not quite that simple. The core itself appears to have more in common with a Polaris than a Vega, but it has dedicated HBM on-die and the high-bandwidth cache controller, while the Vega 8 in the Ryzen 2200 doesn't. So what it really comes down to is, "what is Vega?" to which I answer- "Whatever AMD says is."
I've got an i7-8705G with the on-package Vega M GL. First ATI/AMD GPU i've owned in... a very long time.
It isn't the best value or performance I could get, even per dollar, but I just wanted it because I thought it was cool to have an AMD GPU paired onto an Intel mobile chip.
Anyway, to the point- I've been pleasantly surprised. Haven't had any problems with the thing, and the performance is better than I've ever had in a laptop before.
The amount of money to launch a satellite is peas to a budget like California's.
Beyond that, who are you to say it's a waste? Why wouldn't California consider the possibility of loss of scientific data tracking polluters a problem of theirs?
I mean, hell, the state could probably afford to give every resident a crate of peeps at Easter, but it's not a good idea either.
Ahh, I see your logic. If your stupid idea is stupid, this other idea must be stupid as well, because, well, reasons.
Fuckwit.
I also have no doubt that, had trump said the US was launching a whole bunch of satellites, California would have immediately decried satellites as evil.
If you had left out that line, people could possibly have mistaken you as someone with an actual concern, not someone grasping for straws trying to take jabs at a political rival.
The State of California considers Climate Change a big deal. This is pretty logical since they stand on the precipice of habitability for their population and industry as it is.
The State of California, having a domestic product of almost 3 trillion dollars, with a T, the 5th largest economy on the entire planet, can afford a few million dollars for a 6U cubesat.
And since one does anyone who uses the word "Liberal" as a pejorative give a fuck about "The destitute"? Spare me your false fucking concern.
Sounds to me like you have an ideological ax to grind, not an actual argument. Fuck off.
They clearly don't consider it a waste of money, which is their prerogative.
The threat was to launch their own satellite(s) if Trump made good on his threat to stop collecting said information because why would we look for fake evidence of a Chinese hoax?
Precisely. Anyone can launch a damn satellite.
I'm really scratching my head as to why people are scoffing at the idea of a state with the domestic product of 43 Luxembourgs coughing up the cash to launch a single satellite.
Are you serious?
California is the 8th largest economy on this planet.
You think a couple hundred million dollars is going to dent a state with a domestic product measured in trillions?
Yucca mountain is a good point to rub peoples faces in. It was viable long term storage that was sunk due to political bullshit.
You however do yourself no favors by lying through your fucking teeth.
Grow the fuck up, man.
Yes, but the air's ability to hold water is based upon its temperature. Throw as much water into the air as you like, it'll condense out until it hits thermal equilibrium.
So while you're correct, that ball was still foul as fuck.
What annoyance, if I may ask?
I had my phone for well over a year before I even bothered to look up what 3D Touch was, and how to use it.
Never once activated it on accident.
Long press on androids sucks, sorry.
I'm not a fanboy of either platform and have owned one of each since literally the first Android phone and the first iPhone.
3D touch is one of the iPhone features I wish android would hurry up and copy.
I find that interesting. I've owned an iPhone and an Android since the HTC G1 and the original iPhone. One for work, one for personal.
I've used a *lot* of long press implementations, and hated them all. 3D Touch was the first implementation of "the long touch" that actually felt... good to me. It innovated on a shitty ass interface and made it vastly more reliable, and less prone to you not holding your finger perfectly still. The argument that 3D touch is unintuitive because you don't know where to use it is ridiculous, as the same argument applies to *any* kind of long touch.
I look forward to my Android having 3D touch some day.
I think I was more pointing out the hypocrisy of the 'you get what you take' viewpoint with regard to Israel.
The contemporary Republican argument for throwing away the UN resolutions that call for a 2-state solution in Israel (land that was given to them, mind you, from the spoils of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire) is that Jerusalem was built by "the Jews", disregarding the fact that it has been controlled by "the Arabs" and occupied by "the Palestinians" for 450 years. The Israelis ran a good gambit- hoping that in time the political winds would change in the US, and someone would support their behavior. They seemed to have their finger on the pulse of the American Evangelical better than Americans themselves did.
BTW- the US does not have a mutual defense pact with Israel. Our current relationship with them being so tight is a new phenomena.
See Suez crisis.
The evangelical drool over Jerusalem being an inherently "Jewish" city is Reagan-era, when a bunch of megachurch pastors realized "The Jews" returning to Jerusalem was one of the requirements for the second coming.
Quotes used because I think the distinction between Israeli, Jew, Palestinian as they're used de facto are a bunch of bullshit.
They're all Levantines living in the Levant, and we've taken sides in a religious war that has ground to an apartheid stalemate, with the assistance of many hundreds of billion dollars of US aid in military equipment.
I'm afraid that ship has sailed.
To put it in amusing terms, mankind has dumped a little over a tenth of the mass of Mars' atmosphere worth of CO2 into our own air.
A few million cubic meters of ice is nothing in comparison.
We've been building nuclear powered ships for 60 years now. Go ask the Russians how they do it, they seem to be the experts on it now, with multiple nuclear powered ice breakers in operation today.
The US has far more nuclear vessels than the Russian Federation.... I guess you've got a point on Ice Breakers though? Or something?
I love high level languages. Even terrible ones, like Perl- my by and far favorite language, period.
That being said, I cut my teeth in C and Assembler on a 68000 (Commodore Amiga)
And have done most of my work at the embedded sub-kernel to kernel level.
There is only one reasonable alternative to Assembly at that level, and that is C.
We generally use assembly as little as possible, because A- it's 100% non-portable, even among SOCs of the same general architecture- there just isn't a great standardized macro or header file format for "assemblers", B- because it's impossible to fucking read, and C- because C (heh) can generate deterministic code that in many cases operates just as well as hand-tuned assembler. In fact, most uses of assembler at that level are not for optimization, but for doing the few things that you can't really do easily within the constructs of the language.
I would never ever write a large program in C. But it feels like the people attacking C don't actually know all the places it's used, and they use their limited understanding of its failures in a certain domain to advocate for its complete replacement, in a way that is comically ignorant.
And that's a largely incorrect argument.
Using the constraints the author chooses to demonstrate that C is not close to the metal, neither is direct Assembly or even direct machine code.
He's arguing that the microcode is the only thing that is truly close to the metal. A valid argument, from an academic viewpoint, but completely irrelevant beyond that.
It doesn't appear that way at all. Putin says it happened. He says it because there were protests, and because the US Government's media mouthpieces supported those protests.
There were protests this year too. Did Trump cause them? Or better, Trump's secretary of state?
A dictator who runs rigged elections blames popular protests on old-timey mortal enemy. News at fucking 11.
If you're modded down, it will be because you're stupid, not because people don't like what your'e saying.
The press didn't promote a landslide, the statistics favored an electoral landslide for Hillary. The error margins were concerning in the midwestern states that ultimately cost her the election, but there was a reasonable assumption that that not *every single one of those states* would fall to the R side of the error bars.
That would be like the Cubs winning the World Series. Possible, but extremely unlikely.
But hey, guess what happened.
The unlikely happened in both cases that year. No one was pushing a narrative, you just don't fucking understand statistics.
You're regurgitating Hannity talking points, stop it.
The "far left" (really, fuckstick?) hated Hillary bad enough to throw the election to a fucking moron over it.
Hillary is an unremarkable center-right politician of the Third Way Democrat vein.
Since you're too politically ignorant to really grasp what at's play here, just think of her as a 1950s Republican.
I don't know whether the fake news actually flipped a vote. I think I agree with you that it's unlikely it did.
But what it did do, just based on my own observations and interactions with my more "conservative" friends and family, is convince the... dimmer... of those people that the news was true. IE, it didn't make them any more likely to vote for Trump, but it did make them more likely to think any criticism of Trump is a conspiracy to overthrow this company and turn it into the Soviet Union.
Which I think was the actual goal anyway- that's far more valuable than flipping votes.
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Being HBM and the HBCC are two of the defining characteristics of a Vega core (AMDs words, not mine), I guess the Vega 8 on the Ryzen 2200 isn't a Vega either. ;)
No, it's not that simple. Stupid people love to simplify that which they don't understand. Makes the world easier to swallow for them. Carry on, soldier
Yes. The biggest problem I've had with the old stuff is getting DX8 and 9 to not shit its pants while struggling between accepting that I have a 4K screen, and 2 GPUs
So far, I have managed to successfully get everything old I've tried to run, after a bit of work.
Most common fix was setting desktop resolution to 1080P before running game.
Yawn.
It's not quite that simple. The core itself appears to have more in common with a Polaris than a Vega, but it has dedicated HBM on-die and the high-bandwidth cache controller, while the Vega 8 in the Ryzen 2200 doesn't. So what it really comes down to is, "what is Vega?" to which I answer- "Whatever AMD says is."
I rate your comment 0 stars.
I've got an i7-8705G with the on-package Vega M GL. First ATI/AMD GPU i've owned in... a very long time.
It isn't the best value or performance I could get, even per dollar, but I just wanted it because I thought it was cool to have an AMD GPU paired onto an Intel mobile chip.
Anyway, to the point- I've been pleasantly surprised. Haven't had any problems with the thing, and the performance is better than I've ever had in a laptop before.
Beyond that, who are you to say it's a waste? Why wouldn't California consider the possibility of loss of scientific data tracking polluters a problem of theirs?
I mean, hell, the state could probably afford to give every resident a crate of peeps at Easter, but it's not a good idea either.
Ahh, I see your logic. If your stupid idea is stupid, this other idea must be stupid as well, because, well, reasons.
Fuckwit.
I also have no doubt that, had trump said the US was launching a whole bunch of satellites, California would have immediately decried satellites as evil.
If you had left out that line, people could possibly have mistaken you as someone with an actual concern, not someone grasping for straws trying to take jabs at a political rival.
*Since when
The State of California considers Climate Change a big deal. This is pretty logical since they stand on the precipice of habitability for their population and industry as it is.
The State of California, having a domestic product of almost 3 trillion dollars, with a T, the 5th largest economy on the entire planet, can afford a few million dollars for a 6U cubesat.
And since one does anyone who uses the word "Liberal" as a pejorative give a fuck about "The destitute"? Spare me your false fucking concern.
Sounds to me like you have an ideological ax to grind, not an actual argument. Fuck off.
They clearly don't consider it a waste of money, which is their prerogative.
The threat was to launch their own satellite(s) if Trump made good on his threat to stop collecting said information because why would we look for fake evidence of a Chinese hoax?
Seems quite reasonable to me.
Precisely. Anyone can launch a damn satellite.
I'm really scratching my head as to why people are scoffing at the idea of a state with the domestic product of 43 Luxembourgs coughing up the cash to launch a single satellite.
Are you serious?
California is the 8th largest economy on this planet.
You think a couple hundred million dollars is going to dent a state with a domestic product measured in trillions?
Yucca mountain is a good point to rub peoples faces in. It was viable long term storage that was sunk due to political bullshit.
You however do yourself no favors by lying through your fucking teeth.
Grow the fuck up, man.
Yes, but the air's ability to hold water is based upon its temperature. Throw as much water into the air as you like, it'll condense out until it hits thermal equilibrium.
So while you're correct, that ball was still foul as fuck.
What annoyance, if I may ask?
I had my phone for well over a year before I even bothered to look up what 3D Touch was, and how to use it.
Never once activated it on accident.
Long press on androids sucks, sorry.
I'm not a fanboy of either platform and have owned one of each since literally the first Android phone and the first iPhone.
3D touch is one of the iPhone features I wish android would hurry up and copy.
I find that interesting. I've owned an iPhone and an Android since the HTC G1 and the original iPhone. One for work, one for personal.
I've used a *lot* of long press implementations, and hated them all. 3D Touch was the first implementation of "the long touch" that actually felt... good to me. It innovated on a shitty ass interface and made it vastly more reliable, and less prone to you not holding your finger perfectly still. The argument that 3D touch is unintuitive because you don't know where to use it is ridiculous, as the same argument applies to *any* kind of long touch.
I look forward to my Android having 3D touch some day.
I think I was more pointing out the hypocrisy of the 'you get what you take' viewpoint with regard to Israel.
The contemporary Republican argument for throwing away the UN resolutions that call for a 2-state solution in Israel (land that was given to them, mind you, from the spoils of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire) is that Jerusalem was built by "the Jews", disregarding the fact that it has been controlled by "the Arabs" and occupied by "the Palestinians" for 450 years. The Israelis ran a good gambit- hoping that in time the political winds would change in the US, and someone would support their behavior. They seemed to have their finger on the pulse of the American Evangelical better than Americans themselves did.
BTW- the US does not have a mutual defense pact with Israel. Our current relationship with them being so tight is a new phenomena.
See Suez crisis.
The evangelical drool over Jerusalem being an inherently "Jewish" city is Reagan-era, when a bunch of megachurch pastors realized "The Jews" returning to Jerusalem was one of the requirements for the second coming.
Quotes used because I think the distinction between Israeli, Jew, Palestinian as they're used de facto are a bunch of bullshit.
They're all Levantines living in the Levant, and we've taken sides in a religious war that has ground to an apartheid stalemate, with the assistance of many hundreds of billion dollars of US aid in military equipment.
I'm afraid that ship has sailed.
To put it in amusing terms, mankind has dumped a little over a tenth of the mass of Mars' atmosphere worth of CO2 into our own air.
A few million cubic meters of ice is nothing in comparison.
Lands change hands... What's yours today may not be yours tomorrow.
Unless it's Israel, amirite?
Bible says that shit's theirs. Who are we to argue with the bible.
We've been building nuclear powered ships for 60 years now. Go ask the Russians how they do it, they seem to be the experts on it now, with multiple nuclear powered ice breakers in operation today.
The US has far more nuclear vessels than the Russian Federation.... I guess you've got a point on Ice Breakers though? Or something?
I love high level languages. Even terrible ones, like Perl- my by and far favorite language, period.
That being said, I cut my teeth in C and Assembler on a 68000 (Commodore Amiga)
And have done most of my work at the embedded sub-kernel to kernel level.
There is only one reasonable alternative to Assembly at that level, and that is C.
We generally use assembly as little as possible, because A- it's 100% non-portable, even among SOCs of the same general architecture- there just isn't a great standardized macro or header file format for "assemblers", B- because it's impossible to fucking read, and C- because C (heh) can generate deterministic code that in many cases operates just as well as hand-tuned assembler. In fact, most uses of assembler at that level are not for optimization, but for doing the few things that you can't really do easily within the constructs of the language.
I would never ever write a large program in C. But it feels like the people attacking C don't actually know all the places it's used, and they use their limited understanding of its failures in a certain domain to advocate for its complete replacement, in a way that is comically ignorant.
And that's a largely incorrect argument.
Using the constraints the author chooses to demonstrate that C is not close to the metal, neither is direct Assembly or even direct machine code.
He's arguing that the microcode is the only thing that is truly close to the metal. A valid argument, from an academic viewpoint, but completely irrelevant beyond that.
It doesn't appear that way at all. Putin says it happened. He says it because there were protests, and because the US Government's media mouthpieces supported those protests.
There were protests this year too. Did Trump cause them? Or better, Trump's secretary of state?
A dictator who runs rigged elections blames popular protests on old-timey mortal enemy. News at fucking 11.
If you're modded down, it will be because you're stupid, not because people don't like what your'e saying.
The press didn't promote a landslide, the statistics favored an electoral landslide for Hillary. The error margins were concerning in the midwestern states that ultimately cost her the election, but there was a reasonable assumption that that not *every single one of those states* would fall to the R side of the error bars.
That would be like the Cubs winning the World Series. Possible, but extremely unlikely.
But hey, guess what happened.
The unlikely happened in both cases that year. No one was pushing a narrative, you just don't fucking understand statistics.
You're regurgitating Hannity talking points, stop it.
The "far left" (really, fuckstick?) hated Hillary bad enough to throw the election to a fucking moron over it.
Hillary is an unremarkable center-right politician of the Third Way Democrat vein. Since you're too politically ignorant to really grasp what at's play here, just think of her as a 1950s Republican.
I don't know whether the fake news actually flipped a vote. I think I agree with you that it's unlikely it did.
But what it did do, just based on my own observations and interactions with my more "conservative" friends and family, is convince the... dimmer... of those people that the news was true. IE, it didn't make them any more likely to vote for Trump, but it did make them more likely to think any criticism of Trump is a conspiracy to overthrow this company and turn it into the Soviet Union.
Which I think was the actual goal anyway- that's far more valuable than flipping votes.