It does! My main impetus for keeping WSL on my machine. gnome-terminal is *soooo* much nicer.
Raw sockets didn't seem to work correctly (or at all). I tried a few network tools and they generally fell flat on their face.
Raw sockets do not work at all, except for ICMP proto raws- they're not provided by the MS kernel, unfortunately.
It seems really slow. Maybe it's just my imagination, but sometimes I'd do something as simple as an 'ls' and patiently wait.
I haven't noticed the slowness.
There was no GUI support out of the box. I had to setup Xming on the windows side.
Wait, what? What do you think "GUI" support in Linux is? What do you want, an X server running from within the WSL layer? That makes literally no sense. Or do you want *microsoft* to provide their own X server while they're at it? No thanks. I like having options.
but from a practical standpoint WSL isn't even very good.
I think it's awesome. So do all of us here at work with our ~150 Linux servers and ~10 Windows servers.
The goal was to basically have python, R, a C compiler, some networking tools, etc, available when I am in Windows and not have to boot a Linux box for basic things.
It is literally perfect for exactly that. Do you use a lot of networking tools that require raw sockets??
This is very similar to cygwin, but without the huge pile of fucking suck that is cygwin.
Speaking from experience. My current project is replacing Cygwin with WSL where I can. We use it to handle automation of our few Windows servers (mostly running proprietary billing software and such) via the rest of our Linux infrastructure. WSL is fucking awesome.
Or should all GUI applications for Linux be client-server
All GUI applications for Linux are client-server, with the client (app) and X (server)
There are many X servers for Windows available. If you want one that runs on the Linux side, you don't understand how this works.
No, it's not. Similar idea, but specifically a Linux syscall interface and ELF loader as opposed to a POSIX compatible library layer requiring programs compiled for Windows, but using POSIX calls provided by the dll.
I run gnome-terminal via WSL/Xming whenever I need a terminal in Windows.
cmd.exe / powershell.exe from the linux shell works if you need them, and it's a far-superior terminal emulator to that shit Microsoft ships with windows.
How the hell do Windows people survive without a tabbed terminal emulator?
The ignorance is dripping from this post. Who the fuck modded you up?
You think Linux syscalls work in Windows? There's a lot more to it than an ELF loader, just like there's a lot more to Wine than a PE loader.
Some?
Currently, 199 of my 442 games on Steam run on Linux. Many of them AAA titles.
Sure, less than half of my entire library runs on it... but that's a far cry from "some" like it used to be.
the headsets require less gpu than split screen or dual monitors.
Huh? 1080p x 2 @ 90fps is required for good VR... It requires a pretty beefy card. The split screen/dual monitors statement makes no sense at all. Fill rate requirement is doubled, along with geometry requirements... It absolutely is more GPU intensive than any non-VR application, period.
Next, do you even own a headset? I do.
Frankly, it looks fucking amazing. Like "you can't even imagine it until you've tried it" amazing.
I haven't shown it off to a single friend who didn't take that headset off grinning, saying "holy shit"
Ray-tracing may one day be the only way forward... but for now, rasterization is far from out of tricks to keep cranking up the realism.
We've actually got a nuclear plant on a river about 100 miles south of me. I think it looks... cool as hell.
I don't find anything unsightly about it. To each their own, I guess
Not sure this is accurate... My girlfriend is significantly poorer after purchasing a house. We call it house-poor. Of course she owns the negative equity in a house, so that's cool... Me, I make 4x as much as her, and I'm still renting.
Note: I am not advocating for anything brought forward here.
That being said... Yes, it *is* a matter of willpower... and who is going to pay the costs.. But then again, those "high" costs aren't so high in the grand scheme of things.
Take a look at the federal budget, some time. It's... obscene. Our federal income tax expenditures pay for a military... and about 9 more countries worth of military.
We could subsidize any power solution we dreamed up without even denting peoples current taxation.
Second, effective HIV treatment costs a few hundred dollars per year
They sure as hell don't here. I'm going to assume you mean "there", or you pulled the number right out of your ass.
First, you talk about this as if it were an individual choice, but it's not: under ACA, everybody is forced to do this.
Nice soap box. Everyone was forced to do this before hand with their FICA taxes, or if they were like the majority of the country with private insurance- insured through their employer- they were doing it that way. What the fuck was your point again?
the extra spending is for crony capitalism on excessively expensive treatments
The extra spending is definitely related to capitalism run amok, but it's not cronyism. The pharmaceutical industry has realized the power it has without any government help whatsoever, short of patent and trademark enforcement.
Third, we're not usually talking about "an unfortunate mistake": HIV is pretty hard to transmit and most people with HIV got infected after many acts of unprotected sex with many partners.
That's still an unfortunate mistake. Everyone is reckless a few times in their life. Sometimes you scrape a knee. Sometime you get in a minor car accident. Sometimes you catch fucking AIDS. You're a callous piece of shit.
My mistake was assuming you're from the US.
I am from the US.
My medical insurance covers some high dollar AIDS treatment, which means I help cover some high cost AIDS treatment. Something I'm virtually guaranteed never to contract.
And frankly, I'd rather it did than see a good person die from an unfortunate mistake.
Shielding people from the consequences of their choices when the consequence is an unproductive, short, and expensive rest of their life is doing *society* a favor.
Educational improvement works. Letting them die is stupid.
388 - 25 and 97 - 2... I think we can safely say this was entirely bipartisan. After all- sex trafficking bad. You don't wanna be the guy who voted to legalize sex trafficking.
The rabid AMD defenders who amazingly shit all over Intel when they had the same fucking problem in their IME, but try to act like this isn't an issue definitely remind of Trump Trolls.
The fact that it was enacted without any oversight provisions makes it de facto unconstitutional
You either don't know what de facto means, or you're not familiar with the structure of the US government, as laid out in the Constitution.
The Congress is absolutely free to empower the President to prohibit things. Are you trying to claim that all regulations under the control of regulatory agencies (The Executive branch) are unconstitutional? I think you need to go back to school, buddy.
You're completely full of shit, or grossly ignorant. I suspect the latter- you're simply out of your league, here.
I suspect you don't really know much about secure zones in processors.
To start, replacing the BIOS in a virus isn't really feasible. The possible variations the virus must contend with (BIOS/EFI variations) in order to put in a custom owned BIOS really only leaves room for very custom jobs.
The PSP however is fixed. If you have an AMD processor, the PSP can be owned with a simple root exploit, and owned forever, knowing nothing more than that about the system.
You're what's wrong with this fucking country- people who speak from positions of knowledge when they have none.
I have multiple published CVEs in the NVD. One is a root escalation in Android/Linux.
I'm not mischaracterizing this. People are trying to downplay it, because they've either got an agenda, or they're simply ignorant fanchildren.
Linus isn't ignorant... I'd say he's more in-line with a delusional fanchild.
The premise for his argument as to whether this is a big deal or not hinges on the vileness of the lab that found the problems (which who can argue with? those guys are slime) and the fact that an administrator must apparently be "grossly negligent" in order to allow someone to get root on a system running Linux... Which, excuse me while I laugh.
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First, windows has a terrible terminal emulator
It does! My main impetus for keeping WSL on my machine. gnome-terminal is *soooo* much nicer.
Raw sockets didn't seem to work correctly (or at all). I tried a few network tools and they generally fell flat on their face.
Raw sockets do not work at all, except for ICMP proto raws- they're not provided by the MS kernel, unfortunately.
It seems really slow. Maybe it's just my imagination, but sometimes I'd do something as simple as an 'ls' and patiently wait.
I haven't noticed the slowness.
There was no GUI support out of the box. I had to setup Xming on the windows side.
Wait, what? What do you think "GUI" support in Linux is? What do you want, an X server running from within the WSL layer? That makes literally no sense. Or do you want *microsoft* to provide their own X server while they're at it? No thanks. I like having options.
but from a practical standpoint WSL isn't even very good.
I think it's awesome. So do all of us here at work with our ~150 Linux servers and ~10 Windows servers.
The goal was to basically have python, R, a C compiler, some networking tools, etc, available when I am in Windows and not have to boot a Linux box for basic things.
It is literally perfect for exactly that. Do you use a lot of networking tools that require raw sockets??
This is very similar to cygwin, but without the huge pile of fucking suck that is cygwin.
Speaking from experience. My current project is replacing Cygwin with WSL where I can. We use it to handle automation of our few Windows servers (mostly running proprietary billing software and such) via the rest of our Linux infrastructure. WSL is fucking awesome.
Or should all GUI applications for Linux be client-server
All GUI applications for Linux are client-server, with the client (app) and X (server)
There are many X servers for Windows available. If you want one that runs on the Linux side, you don't understand how this works.
No, it's not. Similar idea, but specifically a Linux syscall interface and ELF loader as opposed to a POSIX compatible library layer requiring programs compiled for Windows, but using POSIX calls provided by the dll.
This is a much deeper level.
I run gnome-terminal via WSL/Xming whenever I need a terminal in Windows.
cmd.exe / powershell.exe from the linux shell works if you need them, and it's a far-superior terminal emulator to that shit Microsoft ships with windows.
How the hell do Windows people survive without a tabbed terminal emulator?
The ignorance is dripping from this post. Who the fuck modded you up?
You think Linux syscalls work in Windows? There's a lot more to it than an ELF loader, just like there's a lot more to Wine than a PE loader.
GNU/Windows... kinda makes me giggle.
Because it's an amazing IDE. Best one I've ever used, and I exclusively use Linux as my desktop.
There is no "support", however X.Org works fine. Just install a windows X-server like Xming, set DISPLAY env var.
Some?
Currently, 199 of my 442 games on Steam run on Linux. Many of them AAA titles.
Sure, less than half of my entire library runs on it... but that's a far cry from "some" like it used to be.
the headsets require less gpu than split screen or dual monitors.
Huh? 1080p x 2 @ 90fps is required for good VR... It requires a pretty beefy card. The split screen/dual monitors statement makes no sense at all. Fill rate requirement is doubled, along with geometry requirements... It absolutely is more GPU intensive than any non-VR application, period.
Next, do you even own a headset? I do.
Frankly, it looks fucking amazing. Like "you can't even imagine it until you've tried it" amazing.
I haven't shown it off to a single friend who didn't take that headset off grinning, saying "holy shit"
Ray-tracing may one day be the only way forward... but for now, rasterization is far from out of tricks to keep cranking up the realism.
We've actually got a nuclear plant on a river about 100 miles south of me. I think it looks... cool as hell. I don't find anything unsightly about it. To each their own, I guess
Yes, but cats are really cute...
If they owned a home they'd be a lot less poor.
Not sure this is accurate... My girlfriend is significantly poorer after purchasing a house. We call it house-poor. Of course she owns the negative equity in a house, so that's cool... Me, I make 4x as much as her, and I'm still renting.
Note: I am not advocating for anything brought forward here.
That being said... Yes, it *is* a matter of willpower... and who is going to pay the costs.. But then again, those "high" costs aren't so high in the grand scheme of things.
Take a look at the federal budget, some time. It's... obscene. Our federal income tax expenditures pay for a military... and about 9 more countries worth of military.
We could subsidize any power solution we dreamed up without even denting peoples current taxation.
No, we haven't... But you'd have to be pretty ignorant to argue that we couldn't, I think.
Second, effective HIV treatment costs a few hundred dollars per year
They sure as hell don't here. I'm going to assume you mean "there", or you pulled the number right out of your ass.
First, you talk about this as if it were an individual choice, but it's not: under ACA, everybody is forced to do this.
Nice soap box. Everyone was forced to do this before hand with their FICA taxes, or if they were like the majority of the country with private insurance- insured through their employer- they were doing it that way. What the fuck was your point again?
the extra spending is for crony capitalism on excessively expensive treatments
The extra spending is definitely related to capitalism run amok, but it's not cronyism. The pharmaceutical industry has realized the power it has without any government help whatsoever, short of patent and trademark enforcement.
Third, we're not usually talking about "an unfortunate mistake": HIV is pretty hard to transmit and most people with HIV got infected after many acts of unprotected sex with many partners.
That's still an unfortunate mistake. Everyone is reckless a few times in their life. Sometimes you scrape a knee. Sometime you get in a minor car accident. Sometimes you catch fucking AIDS. You're a callous piece of shit.
My mistake was assuming you're from the US.
I am from the US.
My medical insurance covers some high dollar AIDS treatment, which means I help cover some high cost AIDS treatment. Something I'm virtually guaranteed never to contract.
And frankly, I'd rather it did than see a good person die from an unfortunate mistake.
Shielding people from the consequences of their choices when the consequence is an unproductive, short, and expensive rest of their life is doing *society* a favor.
Educational improvement works. Letting them die is stupid.
Sure thing, just don't make me pay for your AIDS medicine.
See how offensive that is?
388 - 25 and 97 - 2... I think we can safely say this was entirely bipartisan. After all- sex trafficking bad. You don't wanna be the guy who voted to legalize sex trafficking.
If we can't deflect a comet, or move the fucking planet in another 200,000 years, the Earth deserves another shot at producing intelligent life.
The rabid AMD defenders who amazingly shit all over Intel when they had the same fucking problem in their IME, but try to act like this isn't an issue definitely remind of Trump Trolls.
The fact that it was enacted without any oversight provisions makes it de facto unconstitutional
You either don't know what de facto means, or you're not familiar with the structure of the US government, as laid out in the Constitution.
The Congress is absolutely free to empower the President to prohibit things. Are you trying to claim that all regulations under the control of regulatory agencies (The Executive branch) are unconstitutional? I think you need to go back to school, buddy.
You're completely full of shit, or grossly ignorant. I suspect the latter- you're simply out of your league, here.
I suspect you don't really know much about secure zones in processors.
To start, replacing the BIOS in a virus isn't really feasible. The possible variations the virus must contend with (BIOS/EFI variations) in order to put in a custom owned BIOS really only leaves room for very custom jobs.
The PSP however is fixed. If you have an AMD processor, the PSP can be owned with a simple root exploit, and owned forever, knowing nothing more than that about the system.
You're what's wrong with this fucking country- people who speak from positions of knowledge when they have none.
I have multiple published CVEs in the NVD. One is a root escalation in Android/Linux.
I'm not mischaracterizing this. People are trying to downplay it, because they've either got an agenda, or they're simply ignorant fanchildren.
Linus isn't ignorant... I'd say he's more in-line with a delusional fanchild.
The premise for his argument as to whether this is a big deal or not hinges on the vileness of the lab that found the problems (which who can argue with? those guys are slime) and the fact that an administrator must apparently be "grossly negligent" in order to allow someone to get root on a system running Linux... Which, excuse me while I laugh.