Netflix has vast peering arrangements. My company peers with them for our residential customers. It's the only way you can get "SuperHD" content.
I suspect what's going on here, is that ATT's customers are pressuring them for SuperHD (peering-only) content, and NetFlix is saying to ATT: "Sure, just peer with us, and they can have it!"
I suspect that ATT is pissed that they would be forced to peer freely with a mere content provider (as well as perhaps lost revenue for any other lopsided peering arrangements the traffic may transit to get to ATT), and are telling Netflix that if they want to enable the chunk of their customers on ATT to have the higher-bandwidth content, the Netflix can pay ATT for the peering link.
I get that the geometry of the universe (likely) has no center, but given that it arose from a singularity with no volume, and we all exist within the space that expanded from that, and the expansion was uniform, I'm comfortable with saying that we're all (universally speaking) as much the center as the center can be. I also understand the difference between the (unknown) geometry of the universe, and the (known) geometry of the observable universe.
You responded to AC's assertion that we are at the center of the universe from our point of view with a correction that we are at the center of the visible universe. He's as correct as you are. Everyone is at the center of the universe from their point of view. For us all, our local Hubble Volume *is* the universe. Anything past it is just afterglow that we will never be able to interact with, and we're at the center of that too.
Further, while we're nitpicking geometry of the universe and the difference between "center of the universe from our point of view" and "center of the observable universe", it's a bit more than tautology that tells us we're at the center of the visible universe: I'd s/tautology/observation/; your comment.
I don't think anyone in this thread was ever debating or speculating about the unknown geometry of the unobservable universe.
tr;dr, I think you are being unnecessarily nitpicky.
I did dig the original Cosmos, and I honestly like this one too. While initially, before reading your post I may have disagreed with the egregiousness of the graphical fantasies provided by the CGI folks, you've made me reconsider that standpoint. Your criticisms are spot-on.
I don't think you have to misrepresent the facts of the science in order to make it cool. There's plenty of cool shit about the asteroid belt and molecular biology that doesn't require very unrealistic depictions to make appealing to the layman.
My sole nitpick to your critique is the portion on Titan. While I agree with the assertion that life is bound to take over pretty much everything, there are reasonable limits to that, and on Titan those reasonable limits are more prevalent than on Earth.
Chemosynthetic life that originated around a vent on Titan could conceivably fail to ever make it very far from said vent if there simply wasn't enough energy available for the expansion. Of course, life may find a way regardless, but it's conceivable there are boundaries life may never surpass.
I believe the consensus is that the Earth, and everything else, lies quite at the center of the universe. All space expands uniformly, and every point in our current spacetime was in fact the center. As I understand, this is why the cosmic microwave background is homogenous in all directions from our point of view. Our comoving coordinates have moved a relatively tiny amount from whatever relativistic mass of weird energy condensed into our particles 14 billion years ago, compared to our proper motion in today's spacetime.
I think a better explanation is that double-speak is a widely used tool of autocratic regimes anywhere, including the faux-electoral American one.
You're deluding yourself if you think "the right" (tongue, firmly in cheek) doesn't engage in double-speak every hour of every single day (Fox is 24-hour, no?)
You're an idiot.
Since we're arbitrarily picking time frames in which a piece of land is determined as "someone's", I assert that Crimea is also not Russian.
It's Turkish.. I mean Mongolian... I mean Ukrainian (yep, Crimea was a holding of the Kievan-Rus long before Russian was considered separate from Ukrainian)... I mean Roman.. I mean Greek... I mean, shit.
But you know- you're right. We should choose just the last (voluntary) change of hands to undo.
There is no fucking treaty. Stop spreading that filth- PLEASE.
Is this ignorance, manipulative fear-mongering, or something I've not otherwise thought of?
I think you are unfamiliar with the basic concepts behind MAD.
In this particular case, second-strike capability.
MAD does not rely on knowing your enemy will launch his birds as soon as he sees yours and that they will wave as they pass each other above the poles.
MAD relies on *knowing* (need more emphasis) that even if you sling everything you've got at the enemy, after the mushroom clouds have cleared, your own death is equally assured.
There are multiple second-strike vectors. The former Soviet Union (and I assume Russia) relied on highly mobile land-launchers and some mobile boomers, and sky-darkening swarms of long-range nuclear-armed bombers, while the US relied on a vast fleet of more boomers and a near equal amount of bombers.
So frankly, yes. Talk the madman down. If you, as a President, are man enough to sit there and wait until you *are* incinerated in nuclear fire before the command must be given to retaliate, then you are a fucking hero.
MAD relies on no side having a definitive first-strike capability, and this remains true between the major nuclear superpowers.
I wouldn't, but I happen to have family in the midwest. They would, and do.
They also shovel chicken-shit from Tyson mega-pens for that much.
They actually do feel pressure from illegal immigration, so that makes me sympathetic to them... I only wish I understood why the economy of the region was so utterly depressed. They are capable of more than shoveling shit and picking fruit.
As someone who lives in Redmond, Washington, and works as an engineer in the IT field; a place where very large portions are Little Mumbai, filled to the brim with imported IT workers, I can tell you, right now, that you do not represent the "we" you think you do.
Now, that aside- I'm totally pro-immigration.
The part that sucks is the H1-B part.
I don't like being forced to compete with indentured servants. Play by the corporate rules or be deported- that's fantastic. Enjoy your highly theoretical rights regarding switching employers or obtaining green-cards or permanent resident status. Bring your family on over, no really- they'll let you.
I want companies to be forced to sponsor full immigrate visas for foreign workers they think they need. None of this non-immigrant worker horse-shit.
There's a big difference between proxy wars with all kinds of political implications and the world's pound-for-pound most dangerous military saying "fuck you"
Remember, we won Korea. What we didn't have in that equation was the resolve to commit to an open full-scale war with China, so we retreated back down to the 38th parallel after lining up our guys at the Chinese border.
With Vietnam, there was never a political push to leave South Vietnam. Sure we bombed North Vietnam into the nine hells, but that was more just playing with firepower than anything else. I think perhaps a perfect manifestation of Eisenhower's warning of the miltitary-industrial complex's eventual desire to create war just for the sake of profit. Neither the people nor the politicians had any desire to win that war, by any definition of "win" that you or I would use.
The problem I've experienced, is that I have an iPad using iMessage, and had an iPhone.
My phone number was attached to my iMessage account.
Once I no longer had an iPhone, anyone who previously sent me texts via iMessage (my phone number was still attached) went to my iPad. It's partially my fault for never using it, but it weighs approximately 35kg and feels like trying to hold my 46 inch TV in my hands. Though it is bloody beautiful.
Anyway, the message didn't fail, because it was successfully delivered (doh). It's not quite a bit bucket, but given my non-use of my iPad (and failure to turn the
damn thing off), it may as well have been a bit bucket.
I had to disassociate my phone number from my iMessage account, which I could fortunately do from my iPad once the problem was identified.
This is actually somewhat stupid behavior, but I see little way around it other than notifying people that they must manually remove their phone number from their iMessage account if they switch to a non-iMessage phone.
No- it's not progress in that regard, and I absolutely agree with your idealism. I LOL at its disconnect from reality, though.
I'm a senior network engineer at a regional ISP who runs 5 colocation datacenters and connects approximately 10,000 residential customers, at speeds from DSL to gigabit fiber. We also believe in the earlier spirit of the internet, and as such, we don't limit serving from residential lines or block ports. A significant portion of my life is protecting my network from those people who are serving and infected. In a perfect world where perhaps security had been a basic underpinning of network protocols, that idealism could have come to fruition, but not this one.
We could just as well have maintained the earlier spirit of the Internet and in particular the Web, where people would publish their own material on their own sites, and technologies like links and search tools would let others find it and navigate around different content.
There is most certainly value in some property of post-child rearing folk (grandparents?), otherwise natural selection would not have seen fit to suffer our relatively long life spans in relation to our metabolism and fertility age. I think evolution hasn't had time to account for the trend of young parents not being so close to their own parents. I also think that will change with time- our species will become better at having offspring later in life as it becomes less common to be very close to your extended family in our societies.
Intelligence has little to do with not fully-thought out design.
Also, your refusal to believe is you taking a gut feeling on blind faith. I'm a professional in the field, implementing the specs on real networks with thousands of customers.
It is not uncommon for customer bases to be on shared broadcast medium. Currently existing network hardware in the small-to-midsize ISP range doesn't support the filtering of router advertisements from customers that is required for network stability. DHCPv6 is rife with bandaids and workarounds to make its functionality anywhere close to as operational as DHCPv4. (and still requires multicast router advertisements in conjunction).
Speaking from experience, getting IPv6 to work with customer premises equipment was far harder than setting up a shadow IPv6 network throughout our core, running Vyatta.
For extra credit, set yourself up a router with a SIT tunnel, enable DHCP-PD/IA/NA and SLAAC on it, and then try to make those PD leases useful on a network consisting of dozens of routers held together with dynamic routing protocols. Could just be i'm not "very smart people". Or you could google for all the problems ISPs are facing in the IPv6 front, and not scoff at them like an arm-chair network engineer.;)
He's actually not the retard, he's informed.
Money need not come from a fiscal year budget act. A great example is the $1.4T deficit of FY2008. The budget as passed had a $400B deficit between outlays and projected receipts. TARP and the ARRA were both passed after the FY2008 budget was passed, making them "off-budget", giving us a total deficit of 800B. Then, outlays came up $800B short of the amount projected on the budget. This was actually a systemic issue during Bush. Many budgets were passed with vastly optimistic receipt projections, making their budgeted deficits artificially low.
It seems common for people to use absolute dollars when trying to hammer on Obama for the deficit, and then reducing it to mere percentages when talking about the reduction in the deficit that has occurred since FY2008. To put it in absolute dollars, the deficit today is $700B less than it was the year he took office, or said another way- Obama has presided over the largest spending reduction in US history. That's of course a slanted viewpoint, but so is the one being peddled trying to make him appear to be a spend-monger.
It's not a superior solution. I'm a senior network engineer at a local ISP. Our infrastructure is IPv4 and IPv6, with a chunk of fiber customers running on CGNAT.
We're not even that big, but equipment that can route IPv6 with line-speed forwarding throughout the core and distribution side of the network (as well as supporting the dynamic routing protocols necessary to manage the network) is fantastically more expensive than either purchasing a CGNAT setup, or building one out of Linux (our solution). I can't even imagine the cost for someone with a large network.
That doesn't even get to the myriad of major problems with customer-facing IPv6. The specification with regard to deployment is frankly garbage (the people who wrote the spec[s] clearly had little background in actual customer distribution networks). We couldn't be more eager to get every single one of our customers running on it, especially given how quickly our ARIN allocations are drying up, and the unlikeliness of people our sized being able to acquire more, short of acquiring the blocks of ISPs that we purchase.
I think it's really easy for a lot of arm-chair network engineers to scoff at the speed of the ISP-side IPv6 roll-out, but the costs and technical limitations of the spec, which have required many bandaids and workarounds just to make function in a way that could even remotely be called reliable for residential customers, scales with the size and diversity of our customer base. It's a bitch.
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Netflix has vast peering arrangements. My company peers with them for our residential customers. It's the only way you can get "SuperHD" content.
I suspect what's going on here, is that ATT's customers are pressuring them for SuperHD (peering-only) content, and NetFlix is saying to ATT: "Sure, just peer with us, and they can have it!"
I suspect that ATT is pissed that they would be forced to peer freely with a mere content provider (as well as perhaps lost revenue for any other lopsided peering arrangements the traffic may transit to get to ATT), and are telling Netflix that if they want to enable the chunk of their customers on ATT to have the higher-bandwidth content, the Netflix can pay ATT for the peering link.
I get that the geometry of the universe (likely) has no center, but given that it arose from a singularity with no volume, and we all exist within the space that expanded from that, and the expansion was uniform, I'm comfortable with saying that we're all (universally speaking) as much the center as the center can be. I also understand the difference between the (unknown) geometry of the universe, and the (known) geometry of the observable universe.
You responded to AC's assertion that we are at the center of the universe from our point of view with a correction that we are at the center of the visible universe. He's as correct as you are. Everyone is at the center of the universe from their point of view. For us all, our local Hubble Volume *is* the universe. Anything past it is just afterglow that we will never be able to interact with, and we're at the center of that too.
Further, while we're nitpicking geometry of the universe and the difference between "center of the universe from our point of view" and "center of the observable universe", it's a bit more than tautology that tells us we're at the center of the visible universe: I'd s/tautology/observation/; your comment.
I don't think anyone in this thread was ever debating or speculating about the unknown geometry of the unobservable universe.
tr;dr, I think you are being unnecessarily nitpicky.
Sadly, I can't mod this up... (already posted)
I did dig the original Cosmos, and I honestly like this one too. While initially, before reading your post I may have disagreed with the egregiousness of the graphical fantasies provided by the CGI folks, you've made me reconsider that standpoint. Your criticisms are spot-on.
I don't think you have to misrepresent the facts of the science in order to make it cool. There's plenty of cool shit about the asteroid belt and molecular biology that doesn't require very unrealistic depictions to make appealing to the layman.
My sole nitpick to your critique is the portion on Titan. While I agree with the assertion that life is bound to take over pretty much everything, there are reasonable limits to that, and on Titan those reasonable limits are more prevalent than on Earth.
Chemosynthetic life that originated around a vent on Titan could conceivably fail to ever make it very far from said vent if there simply wasn't enough energy available for the expansion. Of course, life may find a way regardless, but it's conceivable there are boundaries life may never surpass.
Thank you for your post, it was excellent.
I believe the consensus is that the Earth, and everything else, lies quite at the center of the universe. All space expands uniformly, and every point in our current spacetime was in fact the center. As I understand, this is why the cosmic microwave background is homogenous in all directions from our point of view. Our comoving coordinates have moved a relatively tiny amount from whatever relativistic mass of weird energy condensed into our particles 14 billion years ago, compared to our proper motion in today's spacetime.
Putin is a leftist?
lol?
I think a better explanation is that double-speak is a widely used tool of autocratic regimes anywhere, including the faux-electoral American one.
You're deluding yourself if you think "the right" (tongue, firmly in cheek) doesn't engage in double-speak every hour of every single day (Fox is 24-hour, no?)
You're an idiot.
Since we're arbitrarily picking time frames in which a piece of land is determined as "someone's", I assert that Crimea is also not Russian.
It's Turkish.. I mean Mongolian... I mean Ukrainian (yep, Crimea was a holding of the Kievan-Rus long before Russian was considered separate from Ukrainian)... I mean Roman.. I mean Greek... I mean, shit.
But you know- you're right. We should choose just the last (voluntary) change of hands to undo.
Bravo, Sir.
There is no fucking treaty. Stop spreading that filth- PLEASE.
Is this ignorance, manipulative fear-mongering, or something I've not otherwise thought of?
I think you are unfamiliar with the basic concepts behind MAD.
In this particular case, second-strike capability.
MAD does not rely on knowing your enemy will launch his birds as soon as he sees yours and that they will wave as they pass each other above the poles. MAD relies on *knowing* (need more emphasis) that even if you sling everything you've got at the enemy, after the mushroom clouds have cleared, your own death is equally assured.
There are multiple second-strike vectors. The former Soviet Union (and I assume Russia) relied on highly mobile land-launchers and some mobile boomers, and sky-darkening swarms of long-range nuclear-armed bombers, while the US relied on a vast fleet of more boomers and a near equal amount of bombers.
So frankly, yes. Talk the madman down. If you, as a President, are man enough to sit there and wait until you *are* incinerated in nuclear fire before the command must be given to retaliate, then you are a fucking hero.
MAD relies on no side having a definitive first-strike capability, and this remains true between the major nuclear superpowers.
I wouldn't, but I happen to have family in the midwest. They would, and do.
They also shovel chicken-shit from Tyson mega-pens for that much.
They actually do feel pressure from illegal immigration, so that makes me sympathetic to them... I only wish I understood why the economy of the region was so utterly depressed. They are capable of more than shoveling shit and picking fruit.
As someone who lives in Redmond, Washington, and works as an engineer in the IT field; a place where very large portions are Little Mumbai, filled to the brim with imported IT workers, I can tell you, right now, that you do not represent the "we" you think you do.
Now, that aside- I'm totally pro-immigration.
The part that sucks is the H1-B part.
I don't like being forced to compete with indentured servants. Play by the corporate rules or be deported- that's fantastic. Enjoy your highly theoretical rights regarding switching employers or obtaining green-cards or permanent resident status. Bring your family on over, no really- they'll let you.
I want companies to be forced to sponsor full immigrate visas for foreign workers they think they need. None of this non-immigrant worker horse-shit.
I also don't believe you, AC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...
There's a big difference between proxy wars with all kinds of political implications and the world's pound-for-pound most dangerous military saying "fuck you"
Remember, we won Korea. What we didn't have in that equation was the resolve to commit to an open full-scale war with China, so we retreated back down to the 38th parallel after lining up our guys at the Chinese border.
With Vietnam, there was never a political push to leave South Vietnam. Sure we bombed North Vietnam into the nine hells, but that was more just playing with firepower than anything else. I think perhaps a perfect manifestation of Eisenhower's warning of the miltitary-industrial complex's eventual desire to create war just for the sake of profit. Neither the people nor the politicians had any desire to win that war, by any definition of "win" that you or I would use.
The problem I've experienced, is that I have an iPad using iMessage, and had an iPhone.
My phone number was attached to my iMessage account.
Once I no longer had an iPhone, anyone who previously sent me texts via iMessage (my phone number was still attached) went to my iPad. It's partially my fault for never using it, but it weighs approximately 35kg and feels like trying to hold my 46 inch TV in my hands. Though it is bloody beautiful.
Anyway, the message didn't fail, because it was successfully delivered (doh). It's not quite a bit bucket, but given my non-use of my iPad (and failure to turn the damn thing off), it may as well have been a bit bucket.
I had to disassociate my phone number from my iMessage account, which I could fortunately do from my iPad once the problem was identified.
This is actually somewhat stupid behavior, but I see little way around it other than notifying people that they must manually remove their phone number from their iMessage account if they switch to a non-iMessage phone.
No- it's not progress in that regard, and I absolutely agree with your idealism. I LOL at its disconnect from reality, though.
I'm a senior network engineer at a regional ISP who runs 5 colocation datacenters and connects approximately 10,000 residential customers, at speeds from DSL to gigabit fiber. We also believe in the earlier spirit of the internet, and as such, we don't limit serving from residential lines or block ports. A significant portion of my life is protecting my network from those people who are serving and infected. In a perfect world where perhaps security had been a basic underpinning of network protocols, that idealism could have come to fruition, but not this one.
We could just as well have maintained the earlier spirit of the Internet and in particular the Web, where people would publish their own material on their own sites, and technologies like links and search tools would let others find it and navigate around different content.
This made me LOL really hard. Thank you.
There is most certainly value in some property of post-child rearing folk (grandparents?), otherwise natural selection would not have seen fit to suffer our relatively long life spans in relation to our metabolism and fertility age. I think evolution hasn't had time to account for the trend of young parents not being so close to their own parents. I also think that will change with time- our species will become better at having offspring later in life as it becomes less common to be very close to your extended family in our societies.
I couldn't agree more.
A lot of fault falls upon ISPs for not deeming their engineers salary worth wasting on hashing out standards.
Intelligence has little to do with not fully-thought out design. ;)
Also, your refusal to believe is you taking a gut feeling on blind faith. I'm a professional in the field, implementing the specs on real networks with thousands of customers.
It is not uncommon for customer bases to be on shared broadcast medium. Currently existing network hardware in the small-to-midsize ISP range doesn't support the filtering of router advertisements from customers that is required for network stability. DHCPv6 is rife with bandaids and workarounds to make its functionality anywhere close to as operational as DHCPv4. (and still requires multicast router advertisements in conjunction).
Speaking from experience, getting IPv6 to work with customer premises equipment was far harder than setting up a shadow IPv6 network throughout our core, running Vyatta.
For extra credit, set yourself up a router with a SIT tunnel, enable DHCP-PD/IA/NA and SLAAC on it, and then try to make those PD leases useful on a network consisting of dozens of routers held together with dynamic routing protocols. Could just be i'm not "very smart people". Or you could google for all the problems ISPs are facing in the IPv6 front, and not scoff at them like an arm-chair network engineer.
He's actually not the retard, he's informed. Money need not come from a fiscal year budget act. A great example is the $1.4T deficit of FY2008. The budget as passed had a $400B deficit between outlays and projected receipts. TARP and the ARRA were both passed after the FY2008 budget was passed, making them "off-budget", giving us a total deficit of 800B. Then, outlays came up $800B short of the amount projected on the budget. This was actually a systemic issue during Bush. Many budgets were passed with vastly optimistic receipt projections, making their budgeted deficits artificially low. It seems common for people to use absolute dollars when trying to hammer on Obama for the deficit, and then reducing it to mere percentages when talking about the reduction in the deficit that has occurred since FY2008. To put it in absolute dollars, the deficit today is $700B less than it was the year he took office, or said another way- Obama has presided over the largest spending reduction in US history. That's of course a slanted viewpoint, but so is the one being peddled trying to make him appear to be a spend-monger.
It's not a superior solution. I'm a senior network engineer at a local ISP. Our infrastructure is IPv4 and IPv6, with a chunk of fiber customers running on CGNAT. We're not even that big, but equipment that can route IPv6 with line-speed forwarding throughout the core and distribution side of the network (as well as supporting the dynamic routing protocols necessary to manage the network) is fantastically more expensive than either purchasing a CGNAT setup, or building one out of Linux (our solution). I can't even imagine the cost for someone with a large network.
That doesn't even get to the myriad of major problems with customer-facing IPv6. The specification with regard to deployment is frankly garbage (the people who wrote the spec[s] clearly had little background in actual customer distribution networks). We couldn't be more eager to get every single one of our customers running on it, especially given how quickly our ARIN allocations are drying up, and the unlikeliness of people our sized being able to acquire more, short of acquiring the blocks of ISPs that we purchase.
I think it's really easy for a lot of arm-chair network engineers to scoff at the speed of the ISP-side IPv6 roll-out, but the costs and technical limitations of the spec, which have required many bandaids and workarounds just to make function in a way that could even remotely be called reliable for residential customers, scales with the size and diversity of our customer base. It's a bitch.