>kippers & marmite
Sounds like a typical Pizza as eaten by Shaggy & Scooby. I just love the combinations they come up with and having a 6yo Scooby loving kid, I can enjoy them all over again.
>Great Britain - the country claims to be very liberal on human rights
Ah, what you need to understand is the British way of doing things. If it's something that is so obviously stupid and/or unfair as to mak people think no sensible person would support it, the government will be all for it and write a dozen or so laws to promote it. If, on the other hand it's an area of Human rights that Joe Public thinks will be a Good Thing then you can be pretty sure the govt will ignore it with great vigour.
>This has nothing to do with the artists. In fact, the artists will never see a penny of this.
Not my understanding. PRS log every track and when/where it was played - they wouldn't bother if it didn't get to the artist. In fact I knew someone who used to make a fair living starting a multitude of 'bands' with similar names and relying on typos when keying in data for picking up a few quid here and there e.g. calling himself U3 and self publishing a single called 'New Years Eve' then picking up a % of U2/New Years Day income.
90% of the power, 10% of the price. Good enough for the vast majority of people that want to fiddle with their photos. Before some pedent chips in and points out the lack of some feature or other, it's not for *all*, just most.
>$7 is too much to pay for an album
I read an interesting piece on the relative cost of music over the years. If CD's had kept up with inflation, they'd be about £40 ($80) now.
>The label fronts the money to cover the production of your album
And it comes right out your royalties so if it cost a lot, you may never get a dime for your number one album. If you had a really shabby lawyer, you might even find it's refundable i.e. your album tanks, you have to pay back £100k to the record company.
>I'd love to have the option to listen to new music on vinyl
Check out Mute Records web site then. Apart from an impressive artist roster, they sell an awful lot of vinyl versions of most of their artists releases.
That's a fair point but I'm assuming the US prices also include tax or does that get added at the checkout? If the latter then I'll hold my hand up and say it's probably not as bad as it looks then and you're correct.
>You can easily buy from dollars based store off the net and pay half the price
Sometimes but then you need to add import duty, VAT, processing charges etc which bumps it up again unless your parcel manages to slip through. Certainly back in the day I used to buy most of my laserdiscs and DVDs from the US & Canada. Some firms kindly used to take off the wrappers, seals etc and mark the goods as second hand which reduced this a lot but good old Customs & Excise got wise to that.
The most annoying thing is firms that sell their software as a download - it's the same product, it's a download so costs are the same yet the UK price is much higher. They use IP mapping to stop you downloading from the.com as opposed to the.co.uk sites.
Hmmm, not so sure Gates was ever cool, even back then. His Dr Dobbs article early on where he argued people should *gasp* buy software went down like a lead balloon at the time. You're right though about the number of people doing really funky stuff with hard/software on their own.
>that Americans take.
Pah, you guys get everything dirt cheap compare to other countries - welcome to our pain. It's not for nothing that it's always joked that when companies sell in the UK they use a 1:1 GBP/USD exchange rate effectively doubling the cost of everything. As an e.g.
Vista Ultimate $400 (US)/$555 (UK)
PS3 $500/$600
Photoshop $650/$852
iMac 20inch $1200/$1500
OK, not doubled but you get the idea...
Not/quite/ in the same league but Doug Neubauer wrote most of the seminal Atari 8bit game Star Raiders before the hardware existed. He worked from chip designs (one of which he helped design) and built a 3D game with sprites, multiple screens etc that fitted a single 8K cartridge back in 1979. Most impressively, he claims that the 80% done version pretty much compiled fine first time once he got real hardware to try it on.
>Getting dirt into the connector is probably fatal.
That sounds harsh. Do they actually send someone round to do a hit or do you get electrocuted or somesuch?
Ah but if it becomes dangerous to have a raised pulse, the government can argue we all need to take this drug they have to keep us all calm and controlable. Stranger things have happened.
>By the way, with a nick like clickclickdrone...
No, it's a line from an early 80's track called Underpass by John Foxx:
Over all the bridges
Echoes in rows
Talking at the same time
Click click drone
Misty on the glass now
Rusty on the door
Here for years now
Click click drone
>There was no real reason not to comply
Except due to precedent, in UK law you are responsible. A few years ago a major ISP lost a case when someone sued them for carrying *usenet* traffic that contained defamatory comments about an individual. Law ain't the same the world over.
On the whole I'd agree with what you say but a great many websites and forums have no real financial backing and couldn't afford to get involved in a slanging match.
As someone else noted, if it was a comment that 'doing x in product y causes z to happen, everytime. That sucks' then I'd say it was fair but then as a web master, is it my job to test the claim, evaluate it and then pull the comment if its false? If not, what are my responsabilities and how do those change from territory to territory?
The web is global (duh!) and you have to take in to account law in every country, pretty much and as a result, it's usually far easier, much as I hate to say it, to roll over when challanged.
When it comes to libal laws, especially once you get outside countries that offer or claim to offer freedom of speech, you either have to have a fistfull of grade A legal people who can advise you well or a taste for prison food or deep pockets.
I had someone make derogotory comments about some training firm on one of my sites and said firm emailed to ask we pulled the comment otherwise they might need to get legal on us. We pulled it. The firm were fairly reasonable about the whole thing given it took a week or so (ahem, the admin for the forum section had forgotton his pw).
There was no real reason not to comply - it was a silly comment with nothing to back it up, from memory 'anyone know a good IT trainer? I tried xxx but they were crap and tried to fleece me out of more money'.
Wouldn't have minded but when I looked it up, it had been there 3 years.
In the UK, primarily amongst teens/young adults, gay is a well established term for something a bit rubbish. It doesn't have anything to do with being happy or gay when used in this context.
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>kippers & marmite
Sounds like a typical Pizza as eaten by Shaggy & Scooby. I just love the combinations they come up with and having a 6yo Scooby loving kid, I can enjoy them all over again.
>Great Britain - the country claims to be very liberal on human rights
Ah, what you need to understand is the British way of doing things. If it's something that is so obviously stupid and/or unfair as to mak people think no sensible person would support it, the government will be all for it and write a dozen or so laws to promote it. If, on the other hand it's an area of Human rights that Joe Public thinks will be a Good Thing then you can be pretty sure the govt will ignore it with great vigour.
>This has nothing to do with the artists. In fact, the artists will never see a penny of this.
Not my understanding. PRS log every track and when/where it was played - they wouldn't bother if it didn't get to the artist. In fact I knew someone who used to make a fair living starting a multitude of 'bands' with similar names and relying on typos when keying in data for picking up a few quid here and there e.g. calling himself U3 and self publishing a single called 'New Years Eve' then picking up a % of U2/New Years Day income.
>Depends if Takei will crash into Uranus.
It's the dark matter you have to be wary of.
90% of the power, 10% of the price. Good enough for the vast majority of people that want to fiddle with their photos. Before some pedent chips in and points out the lack of some feature or other, it's not for *all*, just most.
>$7 is too much to pay for an album
I read an interesting piece on the relative cost of music over the years. If CD's had kept up with inflation, they'd be about £40 ($80) now.
>The label fronts the money to cover the production of your album
And it comes right out your royalties so if it cost a lot, you may never get a dime for your number one album. If you had a really shabby lawyer, you might even find it's refundable i.e. your album tanks, you have to pay back £100k to the record company.
>I'd love to have the option to listen to new music on vinyl
Check out Mute Records web site then. Apart from an impressive artist roster, they sell an awful lot of vinyl versions of most of their artists releases.
>Why is this a problem?
They keep trying to sing. The rest is cool though.
That's a fair point but I'm assuming the US prices also include tax or does that get added at the checkout? If the latter then I'll hold my hand up and say it's probably not as bad as it looks then and you're correct.
>You can easily buy from dollars based store off the net and pay half the price .com as opposed to the .co.uk sites.
Sometimes but then you need to add import duty, VAT, processing charges etc which bumps it up again unless your parcel manages to slip through. Certainly back in the day I used to buy most of my laserdiscs and DVDs from the US & Canada. Some firms kindly used to take off the wrappers, seals etc and mark the goods as second hand which reduced this a lot but good old Customs & Excise got wise to that.
The most annoying thing is firms that sell their software as a download - it's the same product, it's a download so costs are the same yet the UK price is much higher. They use IP mapping to stop you downloading from the
Hmmm, not so sure Gates was ever cool, even back then. His Dr Dobbs article early on where he argued people should *gasp* buy software went down like a lead balloon at the time. You're right though about the number of people doing really funky stuff with hard/software on their own.
>that Americans take.
Pah, you guys get everything dirt cheap compare to other countries - welcome to our pain. It's not for nothing that it's always joked that when companies sell in the UK they use a 1:1 GBP/USD exchange rate effectively doubling the cost of everything. As an e.g.
Vista Ultimate $400 (US)/$555 (UK)
PS3 $500/$600
Photoshop $650/$852
iMac 20inch $1200/$1500
OK, not doubled but you get the idea...
Not /quite/ in the same league but Doug Neubauer wrote most of the seminal Atari 8bit game Star Raiders before the hardware existed. He worked from chip designs (one of which he helped design) and built a 3D game with sprites, multiple screens etc that fitted a single 8K cartridge back in 1979. Most impressively, he claims that the 80% done version pretty much compiled fine first time once he got real hardware to try it on.
With his track record, I don't think being relevent today is neither here nor there - he's already done enough to be great for the rest of his life.
I don't think Gates did the hardware and software, just the latter.
>Getting dirt into the connector is probably fatal.
That sounds harsh. Do they actually send someone round to do a hit or do you get electrocuted or somesuch?
Ah but if it becomes dangerous to have a raised pulse, the government can argue we all need to take this drug they have to keep us all calm and controlable. Stranger things have happened.
>Poke out his eyes
Back in the day you could pretty much do anything on a computer with a poke. Or sometimes a peek.
Yep - the Judge got a bit of a slating at the time for not 'getting it'.
>By the way, with a nick like clickclickdrone...
No, it's a line from an early 80's track called Underpass by John Foxx:
Over all the bridges
Echoes in rows
Talking at the same time
Click click drone
Misty on the glass now
Rusty on the door
Here for years now
Click click drone
>There was no real reason not to comply
Except due to precedent, in UK law you are responsible. A few years ago a major ISP lost a case when someone sued them for carrying *usenet* traffic that contained defamatory comments about an individual. Law ain't the same the world over.
On the whole I'd agree with what you say but a great many websites and forums have no real financial backing and couldn't afford to get involved in a slanging match.
As someone else noted, if it was a comment that 'doing x in product y causes z to happen, everytime. That sucks' then I'd say it was fair but then as a web master, is it my job to test the claim, evaluate it and then pull the comment if its false? If not, what are my responsabilities and how do those change from territory to territory?
The web is global (duh!) and you have to take in to account law in every country, pretty much and as a result, it's usually far easier, much as I hate to say it, to roll over when challanged.
When it comes to libal laws, especially once you get outside countries that offer or claim to offer freedom of speech, you either have to have a fistfull of grade A legal people who can advise you well or a taste for prison food or deep pockets.
I had someone make derogotory comments about some training firm on one of my sites and said firm emailed to ask we pulled the comment otherwise they might need to get legal on us. We pulled it. The firm were fairly reasonable about the whole thing given it took a week or so (ahem, the admin for the forum section had forgotton his pw).
There was no real reason not to comply - it was a silly comment with nothing to back it up, from memory 'anyone know a good IT trainer? I tried xxx but they were crap and tried to fleece me out of more money'.
Wouldn't have minded but when I looked it up, it had been there 3 years.
In the UK, primarily amongst teens/young adults, gay is a well established term for something a bit rubbish. It doesn't have anything to do with being happy or gay when used in this context.