You can play any music that you can get into a supported format, so cheaper music is not accurate. Supporting Ogg would not result in cheaper music.
Google Voice actually interfered with core functionality, not just duplicated it. You should read more.
Book prices are set by publishers, and there are also Kindle and B&N Apps on the app store. There are also about 100 other book apps.
Videos again can come in any supported format. (Just like music you are free to buy them from anywhere).
Not sure I even understand or care about the playboy around. What has Apple ACTUALLY done to kill competition other than make a better phone than everyone else. If that strategy is ever successful and they actually reach a position of market dominance (100 million iDevices is not quite there), than they might be able to look at some anti-competitive behavior.
I am not sure you can hold a company legally responsible because all of their competition sucks. Google was free to make a more controlled App store that would have been successful like Apple's, but they chose a different path, that path is not working.
Everyone realizes that this announcements indicated that two government agencies are in the midst of negotiating to decide which one of them might launch an investigation.
Most of us will likely have died of old age before the investigation even starts. Why do real work when you can justify your existence by simply sitting around the office and bickering with the guys down the street.
It took 10 years to resolve the Microsoft case and their market dominance was clear and certain. 3 Years to come to agreement. Another 4 years for the DOJ to sure Microsoft for completely ignoring the agreement. Three more years to resolve the lawsuit.
Since it is unlikely these two departments will resolve their internal squabble any time soon. By the time they do one of them will be out for blood. Unfortunately there will be little to find.
Apples only restriction on book pricing is that the price must end in 99 cents. They also have a restriction that you can not sell your book in another online store for less than you charge in Apple's store, but Amazon has the exact same restriction.
All other pricing decisions are made by PUBLISHERS. Amazon forced publishers to sell books at prices lower than they wanted to. Apple has simply said that publishers should decide their pricing.
This case has nothing to do with web standards, but beneath all your struggling you seem to have a point.
100 million iDevices to give them a certain market power and it is possible for regulators to use that as a basis for an anti-trust investigation.
Sales Force is one of the better examples (because of how well known it is) of companies trusting some of their most valuable data to a third party cloud provider.
There are many companies providing more specialized SaaS hosting for data with extreme security requirements. This is the way the Enterprise space is headed.
You can write completely free apps for the iPhone using XCode too.. Sure you have to join the developer program, but $99 a year for tools is cheap compared any equivalent flash tools.
The GP is confused and Steve Jobs said crashes on the MAC not that it crashed the MAC.
And sorry if you think flash is great on Linux you are in a tiny minority of delusional fan boys. Your right , no configuration will protect you from Adobe's bad implementation. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Are there shortcomings? Why does everyone but me and Steve and like 3 other people seem to live in an alternate universe where Flash runs on all these mobile devices and the dang iPhone is just lagging behind?
Adobe MIGHT have flash working on Android by the Q4 2010, don't hold your breath. When would that update reach users?
What phone were you playing facebook games on before? What Phone does Adobe have flash currently in production on?
I thought so, what an absurd argument. Blame the facebook developers or blame Adobe, you sure as heck can't blame Apple for something that does not exist on any mobile platform and they have no control over.
P.S. "Industry Size" is usually based on revenues and not Market Cap, you are confused. Since many large publishers are held by Private companies (Random House is owned by a German company and is the largest publisher of English books in the world), there is no concept of Market cap for them.
McGraw Hill with a $10.5B market cap had $5.9B in revenues in 2009. (No idea how much of that revenue is US based, but I do know they have little if any unencumbered content for sale.:)
The total sales of US books is was estimated at $24B
I call BS. Who is your publisher, show me where I can buy all of their titles in a a completely DRM free format. (P.S. don't show me the Safari one chapter at a time PDF purchase downloads either, that would be silly as it is by far the most expensive way to by a book).
Lets see it. You are making a claim but have not provided a shred of supporting evidence.
Yes because most of the publishers are not like yours... I suppose they could offer books in both formats. Both devices support DRM free books, they have chosen to DRM everything in the store because the overwhelming majority of commercial publishers require it.
And paying to distribute binaries, process payments, have their own notification system for updates, paying to distribute updates. The ability to do in-game micro purchases...
You clearly are not in the software business or anything related to it.
Lol, how is the air in your world. Nintendo does not release their proprietary games to any platform they do not own. Look to titles not owned by a competing platform and lets talk.
Your opinion of the iPad as a gaming platform is pretty humorous though. Good thing you do not make a living writing games.
It is not like this whole conversations was Steve's idea. FSF made a statement about something they were not really involved in so SJ responded about why they would not implement Theora. If you want to blame someone, look to the FSF.
Or the message might be..We don't want you to give away things we spent a lot of money developing. I know it is popular to hate software patents, but they do serve a purpose.
Theora may die either way since it is unable to defend itself, which is unfortunate. Perhaps the FSF or EFF can give them a hand. Both groups tend to only like to be involved in novel projects, and if this turns out to be a pretty straight forward patent violation...
I believe it was more SJ explaining why Apple is not interested in falling into the trap of implementing Theora than a suggestion that Apple planned on being part of the patent pool going after Theora.
There are legitimate patent questions around Theora, it certainly makes sense for anyone wanting to implement it commercially to use caution.
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Indeed, and yet nobody cares. Should tell you something.
Well lets see..
You can play any music that you can get into a supported format, so cheaper music is not accurate. Supporting Ogg would not result in cheaper music.
Google Voice actually interfered with core functionality, not just duplicated it. You should read more.
Book prices are set by publishers, and there are also Kindle and B&N Apps on the app store. There are also about 100 other book apps.
Videos again can come in any supported format. (Just like music you are free to buy them from anywhere).
Not sure I even understand or care about the playboy around. What has Apple ACTUALLY done to kill competition other than make a better phone than everyone else. If that strategy is ever successful and they actually reach a position of market dominance (100 million iDevices is not quite there), than they might be able to look at some anti-competitive behavior.
I am not sure you can hold a company legally responsible because all of their competition sucks. Google was free to make a more controlled App store that would have been successful like Apple's, but they chose a different path, that path is not working.
Everyone realizes that this announcements indicated that two government agencies are in the midst of negotiating to decide which one of them might launch an investigation.
Most of us will likely have died of old age before the investigation even starts. Why do real work when you can justify your existence by simply sitting around the office and bickering with the guys down the street.
It took 10 years to resolve the Microsoft case and their market dominance was clear and certain. 3 Years to come to agreement. Another 4 years for the DOJ to sure Microsoft for completely ignoring the agreement. Three more years to resolve the lawsuit.
Since it is unlikely these two departments will resolve their internal squabble any time soon. By the time they do one of them will be out for blood. Unfortunately there will be little to find.
Unfortunately for Apple, Android's marketplace hardly sell any Apps. (It seems from all the arguments made here anyway).
Apples only restriction on book pricing is that the price must end in 99 cents. They also have a restriction that you can not sell your book in another online store for less than you charge in Apple's store, but Amazon has the exact same restriction.
All other pricing decisions are made by PUBLISHERS. Amazon forced publishers to sell books at prices lower than they wanted to. Apple has simply said that publishers should decide their pricing.
This case has nothing to do with web standards, but beneath all your struggling you seem to have a point.
100 million iDevices to give them a certain market power and it is possible for regulators to use that as a basis for an anti-trust investigation.
Apple is the most profitable mobile phone manufacturer in the world. I have never seen anyone claim they "outsell" the rest of them.
Your not a developer I suppose, because you apparently do not understand 30% of the words you used in your own post.
Sales Force is one of the better examples (because of how well known it is) of companies trusting some of their most valuable data to a third party cloud provider.
There are many companies providing more specialized SaaS hosting for data with extreme security requirements. This is the way the Enterprise space is headed.
You can write completely free apps for the iPhone using XCode too.. Sure you have to join the developer program, but $99 a year for tools is cheap compared any equivalent flash tools.
The GP is confused and Steve Jobs said crashes on the MAC not that it crashed the MAC.
And sorry if you think flash is great on Linux you are in a tiny minority of delusional fan boys. Your right , no configuration will protect you from Adobe's bad implementation. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Are there shortcomings? Why does everyone but me and Steve and like 3 other people seem to live in an alternate universe where Flash runs on all these mobile devices and the dang iPhone is just lagging behind?
Adobe MIGHT have flash working on Android by the Q4 2010, don't hold your breath. When would that update reach users?
What phone were you playing facebook games on before? What Phone does Adobe have flash currently in production on?
I thought so, what an absurd argument. Blame the facebook developers or blame Adobe, you sure as heck can't blame Apple for something that does not exist on any mobile platform and they have no control over.
And of course Apple has contributed more to OSS through WebKit (One small part of their contribution) than Adobe has in total.
There is no reason to create their own since there is already HTML5...
Whatever Benjamin Franklin would say would be written on his iPad
P.S. "Industry Size" is usually based on revenues and not Market Cap, you are confused. Since many large publishers are held by Private companies (Random House is owned by a German company and is the largest publisher of English books in the world), there is no concept of Market cap for them.
McGraw Hill with a $10.5B market cap had $5.9B in revenues in 2009. (No idea how much of that revenue is US based, but I do know they have little if any unencumbered content for sale.:)
The total sales of US books is was estimated at $24B
I call BS. Who is your publisher, show me where I can buy all of their titles in a a completely DRM free format. (P.S. don't show me the Safari one chapter at a time PDF purchase downloads either, that would be silly as it is by far the most expensive way to by a book).
Lets see it. You are making a claim but have not provided a shred of supporting evidence.
Yes because most of the publishers are not like yours... I suppose they could offer books in both formats. Both devices support DRM free books, they have chosen to DRM everything in the store because the overwhelming majority of commercial publishers require it.
And paying to distribute binaries, process payments, have their own notification system for updates, paying to distribute updates. The ability to do in-game micro purchases...
You clearly are not in the software business or anything related to it.
Lol, how is the air in your world. Nintendo does not release their proprietary games to any platform they do not own. Look to titles not owned by a competing platform and lets talk.
Your opinion of the iPad as a gaming platform is pretty humorous though. Good thing you do not make a living writing games.
And has already converted most (nearly all now) of their videos to H.264...(youtube.com/html5).
It is not like this whole conversations was Steve's idea. FSF made a statement about something they were not really involved in so SJ responded about why they would not implement Theora. If you want to blame someone, look to the FSF.
Or the message might be..We don't want you to give away things we spent a lot of money developing. I know it is popular to hate software patents, but they do serve a purpose.
Theora may die either way since it is unable to defend itself, which is unfortunate. Perhaps the FSF or EFF can give them a hand. Both groups tend to only like to be involved in novel projects, and if this turns out to be a pretty straight forward patent violation...
Someone should tell google...http://www.youtube.com/html5
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Every video on youtube is currently available in HTML5/h.264..
I believe it was more SJ explaining why Apple is not interested in falling into the trap of implementing Theora than a suggestion that Apple planned on being part of the patent pool going after Theora.
There are legitimate patent questions around Theora, it certainly makes sense for anyone wanting to implement it commercially to use caution.