OK, so they rely on a spin off project on it's own, and the rest of the world goes on with HTML5 which will continue to be improved and expanded. Which one will provide more use in the long run? So, OpenFL, is a way to avoid learning new technology. Hopefully it doesn't lead people down a one way street.
One way to a known dead end. So, yeah, face palm city.
Which is too bad. Because ActionScript supports object oriented code.
Java supports object oriented code. It's still a bit icky if you ask me. Not as icky as Flash, mind you. Nothing makes a browser go boom like Flash, but Java comes close.
Its not that I don't support the idea of cross-platform and cross-browser HTML5 solutions for tasks previously only accomplished through Flash but I think people often fail to understand it isn't all unicorns and rainbows as its made out to be.
Who writes code and thinks a new standard is going to have unicorns and rainbows? Wait, ok, idiots that don't write code and use WYSIWYG tools. Well, when you set an expectation bar too high or are looking up from the bottom of the pool...
It replaced a product that was not web friendly in the Macromedia product line, Director. Director created ShockWave files, the code name that became the product name for the web plugin. Director was raster graphics based and Macromedia saw that this wasn't going to fly and created Flash as the vector graphics replacement for Director. The Flash plugin allowed SWF packaged files to play in a web page. We creatives had tools at the time, thanks for thinking we were left out, but we weren't. We weren't starving for a multimedia authoring tool that didn't suck as bad as AuthorWare, a.k.a. Awfulware.
Flash was one of the few holdouts of the Plugins era of the Netscape vs. IE Browser War. It came out because There wasn't a standard between the two for vector based graphics.
Bzzzt! Wrong. I was a BETA and ALPHA tester for Macromind/Macromedia when Flash was being developed. It was developed specifically to replace their Director product as it was doomed being a primarily raster graphics animation and multimedia authoring tool. To claim Flash started as anything but shows you weren't there. When Flash began the Internet was still really slow. I think the university had three T-1 lines at the time for the whole campus to use. Flash could create animated interactions (all the rage in the early 1990s) in really small files because they were vector graphics. Perfect for 56k modem users. Anyway, Flash was written as a vector animation package that also had a scripting engine (ActionScript) for controls. It handled audio files at first and eventually got video capabilities. As for HTML5, it's barely out of the blocks as a standard and folks are shooting it down? How about wait for it to mature, as it does have a bit to go. Heck, we just got CSS3 working cross browser within the last two years without gymnastics. Give it some time.
This is a problem that OSM (open street map) has solved. Either use their service, our even create your own clone - their software is likely to be all open source, and their mapping data certainly is.
Nice. I was going to say if everyone is collocated to use a big paper map on a wall. He did say they were "local". Sounds like he's trying to use tech he doesn't really need to solve a problem. But, that's most Ask/. questions these days, that and not knowing how to use a search engine to do your own research.
Why always picking on the HD manufacturers? Your GigE network runs at 1,000,000,000 bits per second, not 1,073,741,824, what a scam!
Easy. For the same reason you'd be pissed off at a builder that built the rooms ten percent or more smaller than advertised in your house, or translated requirements to meters and intentionally then built in feet. It's fraud! If you needed a twenty-by-twenty room to fit your living room in and the builder made it sixteen-by-sixteen wouldn't you be pissed? Networking technology is known to have degraded efficiency percentages due to transients, bad cables, etc. there is an acceptable amount of loss expected, but if gige only gave you 200Mbps you'd get pissed. Memory is known to have certain defects, but we usually don't tolerate those as swapping out ram is not detrimental to your stored data. When HD manufacturers went to tens to calculate HD sizes, we the consumers were defrauded. The whole change was a way to make drives that wouldn't normally pass yield sellable so the manufacturer could make more money at our expense. And we just let them...
Good code rarely needs commenting though. Too many comments are often an indicator of poorly organized code.
Dear person who thinks that "good code rarely needs commenting": the entire world wants to beat you senseless with a nine iron.
You're welcome.
Please, can we print a hard copy of said code on a roll, wrap it around a bat (so it hurts "less"), and then beat him? My nine iron slices a bit these days. My third base pull is quite strong.
Levi Strauss, Ralph Lauren (most haute couture), Daimler-Benz, Porsche, dozens of companies are named after their founders. Usually means huge egos and sole proprietorship companies that went public.
The Presidents limo is in a heavily disguised armour. It weighs multiple tonnes.
An electric design just can't make the range or extended get away speed required with the protection needed.
Of course the one true maker of presidential limousines is ford....
Range is more the issue, I would think given the weight of the vehicle sans any drivetrain components. How far away from a secure location would they go before switching to air transport (Marine One)? A gas or Diesel fuel is going to give you critical units of energy per gram of mass than batteries. Even if they use super-secret, only installed in the new Beast and some stealth drone battery I don't see a good 90% of 14,000 lbs going very far. You would get a hell of a recharge from breaking that thing to a stop, though. I guess it all depends on what the range and acceleration specs are for the limo. Probably classified.
This comment thread really make me feel for the editors.
Stories get posted that aren't exactly "News for Nerds" and they get lambasted for it.
Now here's a story where any good Nerd should know exactly who ESR is and there's complaining about it not being mainstream (i.e. tell us his name) enough.
Gentlemen, to clear up the terminology confusion, I suggest to:
- call the kernel "Linux"
- call the kernel + GNU userland GNU/Linux
- call the linux based Google's operating system Android/Linux
The reason nobody else came up with this classification before is beyond me.
And it's this splintering and infighting that really makes nobody care and was really the point of my post above. The thing that made open source GNU fly was the open source kernel called Linux. But, Linux isn't much without user land (whether GNU or not), no OS kernel is. From what I can tell the AOSP is a software stack on top of a Linux kernel, so not "purest" GNU/Linux and a beast of its own. So, what's more important depends on your point of view. If you're a Linux kernel dev you might want to accentuate how the kernel is there and the use in non-GNU implementations count as Linux installs. If you're an Android dev inside Google you may downplay the kernel and care more about your stack penetration in the market, knowing the kernel underneath does not matter much. Windows user land runs atop a Linux kernel in Wine. Mac OS X has run on mach PPC kernel and ported to both Intel and a portion to ARM. I am sure if someone had the budget both Windows and Mac OS X user lands could be ported to a full POSIX, Linux kernel Operating System. Who knows, they may all be based on an open source kernel in the future. Why reinvent the wheel if everyone can chip in and all build, use and improve a common core. Being pedantic on this point of is it or is it not Linux at this stage in Linux's history is a bit counterproductive. I'd say claim it while you can.
No, actually, those links are the product information pages any mouth breather would click on to find out what they might be buying. Do you just buy something at a store having no prior knowledge of the product? If so, go back and get in line with the lemmings.
Oh, so now we get modded down for calling out concocted stories? Yup, that's about the limit for me. 1. To date there is no working quantum computer that has even been properly validated, so no. 2. Since when do editors post non-submitted content, or content not referencing the submitter? 3. SHENANIGANS!!!
Total Dice cooked story. Not a submitted by post. Look out if you don't know about this [BS company and their technology] you might get in trouble at work or miss something advantageous in the market! Oh, no! Total click bait. I call shenanigans.
It's the Linux kernel, for chrissakes. Why you would count embedded Linux installs and not Android is beyond me.
Then why not count OS X as another *nix and really blow the doors off, well, Windows would be the only other OS left? Oh, right, because it's not open source, except it is. And, it's as open as Android seems to really be. Customized underpinnings and a GUI customized on top. You can do that with Darwin.
Wow, took this long in the comments to find facts like, the shareholders voted it down by a large, landslide-and-a-half margin and that the board and management are also shareholders, duh! Fuck people are stupid about business yet speak like they know something! Worse than high school sex talk for crissake!
while we can argue the merits of AGW all day long that isnt what I saw here. I saw a smug son of a bitch tell an owner to go fuck himself.
No, the owner went way too far. Being an owner does not entitle you to behave like a pig.
Whoa! I demand a recount! Does Tim Cook or the jackass and whom he represents own more of the company? I'd bet (with options) Tim does. So, Tim told a lesser owner to take his money elsewhere if he didn't like the way Apple was doing things. I would say that was a valid assertion by someone who clearly knew better.
But.. what is green energy? Most of the things I've seen so far have been about as credible in terms of improving whatever "green" metric they claim to address as the products in the "nutrition supplements" aisle at the local drug store.
In a lot of places, the "green" solutions address only one real issue - satisfaction of some tax rule in order to allow the participant to enjoy a credit or to have tax-power-by-proxy. For instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... Deepwater Wind has legislated ability to "sell" its electricity to the grid at 24 cents per kWh in a state where the current retail rate is currently about 8 cents per kWh (6 cents commercial).
That's not about green energy, that's taxing power that has been granted to a private entity over the rate payers. Worse, what stops them from the outright fraud of pulling power off the grid at the retail rate and returning it to the grid at their grossly inflated rate?
Wow, can I get some of what you're smoking? Wind power alone can generate enough to pay for itself and your neighbor if you live in an area with an average wind speed of 7 MPH for ten hours a day. Solar power is making slower strides lately but can be efficient in sufficient quantities, i.e. big ass data center square footage size. Nice single bad example cherry picking when there are dozens of successes that can also be Googled. Wind, solar, hydroelectric (forgot that one, eh?), and tidal are all viable energy solutions. And let's talk about the stupid municipal ordinances keeping people from installing wind power on their property, if you want to go all anti-tax, libertarian on the issue!
Unless you are running the company, you don't know what is in the best interest of the shareholders. I can think of quite a few cases where a company did what the shareholders wanted to the ultimate detriment of the company! (Think Dell, or Seagate...) Sometimes the best interest of the shareholder is to do things that either won't pay off for a long time, or will maybe never directly make any change to the share price, but will put the company in a better position for future growth, or appeal to a larger market. There are a lot of factors going on here, but the ROI to shareholders in my opinion is at the bottom of the barrel as long as he isn't damaging the company. As far as I am concerned, shareholders should be investing in a company because they like the direction the company is going. Attempting to muck around in that process for personal gain will ALWAYS be detrimental to the company.
You know absolutely nothing about how real institutional investment works do you? Most public stock is owned by hedge funds and pension funds. That means there is one person directing millions of shares of stock in a company. They don't care about anything but generating ROI. I don't know if you are aware of this, as your statements demonstrate you're not, but damaging a company equals bad ROI. Mr. Cook in this case did neither and simply shutdown some jackass that also did not understand how corporations and being a shareholder worked. He'd just seen it on TV or at the Cinema. That's fiction, btw.;)
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I love you, man. That one should be modded to 11.
OK, so they rely on a spin off project on it's own, and the rest of the world goes on with HTML5 which will continue to be improved and expanded. Which one will provide more use in the long run? So, OpenFL, is a way to avoid learning new technology. Hopefully it doesn't lead people down a one way street.
One way to a known dead end. So, yeah, face palm city.
Which is too bad. Because ActionScript supports object oriented code.
Java supports object oriented code. It's still a bit icky if you ask me. Not as icky as Flash, mind you. Nothing makes a browser go boom like Flash, but Java comes close.
Its not that I don't support the idea of cross-platform and cross-browser HTML5 solutions for tasks previously only accomplished through Flash but I think people often fail to understand it isn't all unicorns and rainbows as its made out to be.
Who writes code and thinks a new standard is going to have unicorns and rainbows? Wait, ok, idiots that don't write code and use WYSIWYG tools. Well, when you set an expectation bar too high or are looking up from the bottom of the pool ...
It replaced a product that was not web friendly in the Macromedia product line, Director. Director created ShockWave files, the code name that became the product name for the web plugin. Director was raster graphics based and Macromedia saw that this wasn't going to fly and created Flash as the vector graphics replacement for Director. The Flash plugin allowed SWF packaged files to play in a web page. We creatives had tools at the time, thanks for thinking we were left out, but we weren't. We weren't starving for a multimedia authoring tool that didn't suck as bad as AuthorWare, a.k.a. Awfulware.
Flash was one of the few holdouts of the Plugins era of the Netscape vs. IE Browser War. It came out because There wasn't a standard between the two for vector based graphics.
Bzzzt! Wrong. I was a BETA and ALPHA tester for Macromind/Macromedia when Flash was being developed. It was developed specifically to replace their Director product as it was doomed being a primarily raster graphics animation and multimedia authoring tool. To claim Flash started as anything but shows you weren't there. When Flash began the Internet was still really slow. I think the university had three T-1 lines at the time for the whole campus to use. Flash could create animated interactions (all the rage in the early 1990s) in really small files because they were vector graphics. Perfect for 56k modem users. Anyway, Flash was written as a vector animation package that also had a scripting engine (ActionScript) for controls. It handled audio files at first and eventually got video capabilities. As for HTML5, it's barely out of the blocks as a standard and folks are shooting it down? How about wait for it to mature, as it does have a bit to go. Heck, we just got CSS3 working cross browser within the last two years without gymnastics. Give it some time.
This is a problem that OSM (open street map) has solved. Either use their service, our even create your own clone - their software is likely to be all open source, and their mapping data certainly is.
Nice. I was going to say if everyone is collocated to use a big paper map on a wall. He did say they were "local". Sounds like he's trying to use tech he doesn't really need to solve a problem. But, that's most Ask /. questions these days, that and not knowing how to use a search engine to do your own research.
Why always picking on the HD manufacturers? Your GigE network runs at 1,000,000,000 bits per second, not 1,073,741,824, what a scam!
Easy. For the same reason you'd be pissed off at a builder that built the rooms ten percent or more smaller than advertised in your house, or translated requirements to meters and intentionally then built in feet. It's fraud! If you needed a twenty-by-twenty room to fit your living room in and the builder made it sixteen-by-sixteen wouldn't you be pissed? Networking technology is known to have degraded efficiency percentages due to transients, bad cables, etc. there is an acceptable amount of loss expected, but if gige only gave you 200Mbps you'd get pissed. Memory is known to have certain defects, but we usually don't tolerate those as swapping out ram is not detrimental to your stored data. When HD manufacturers went to tens to calculate HD sizes, we the consumers were defrauded. The whole change was a way to make drives that wouldn't normally pass yield sellable so the manufacturer could make more money at our expense. And we just let them...
"Well if you let the programmers run the show, things would be so much better."
The monkeys? Run the zoo? What could go wrong?
"All our users are complaining bitterly about these changes, but I'm sure once they get used to it they will see we had it right all along."
See also: gnome
ROFLMFAO...FB! No, that doesn't stand for facebook!
Good code rarely needs commenting though. Too many comments are often an indicator of poorly organized code.
Dear person who thinks that "good code rarely needs commenting": the entire world wants to beat you senseless with a nine iron. You're welcome.
Please, can we print a hard copy of said code on a roll, wrap it around a bat (so it hurts "less"), and then beat him? My nine iron slices a bit these days. My third base pull is quite strong.
Levi Strauss, Ralph Lauren (most haute couture), Daimler-Benz, Porsche, dozens of companies are named after their founders. Usually means huge egos and sole proprietorship companies that went public.
The Presidents limo is in a heavily disguised armour. It weighs multiple tonnes.
An electric design just can't make the range or extended get away speed required with the protection needed.
Of course the one true maker of presidential limousines is ford....
Range is more the issue, I would think given the weight of the vehicle sans any drivetrain components. How far away from a secure location would they go before switching to air transport (Marine One)? A gas or Diesel fuel is going to give you critical units of energy per gram of mass than batteries. Even if they use super-secret, only installed in the new Beast and some stealth drone battery I don't see a good 90% of 14,000 lbs going very far. You would get a hell of a recharge from breaking that thing to a stop, though. I guess it all depends on what the range and acceleration specs are for the limo. Probably classified.
This comment thread really make me feel for the editors.
Stories get posted that aren't exactly "News for Nerds" and they get lambasted for it.
Now here's a story where any good Nerd should know exactly who ESR is and there's complaining about it not being mainstream (i.e. tell us his name) enough.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Actually, they are both examples of bad editing. The former being bad editorial filtering of stories, the latter is just bad English.
Gentlemen, to clear up the terminology confusion, I suggest to: - call the kernel "Linux" - call the kernel + GNU userland GNU/Linux - call the linux based Google's operating system Android/Linux
The reason nobody else came up with this classification before is beyond me.
And it's this splintering and infighting that really makes nobody care and was really the point of my post above. The thing that made open source GNU fly was the open source kernel called Linux. But, Linux isn't much without user land (whether GNU or not), no OS kernel is. From what I can tell the AOSP is a software stack on top of a Linux kernel, so not "purest" GNU/Linux and a beast of its own. So, what's more important depends on your point of view. If you're a Linux kernel dev you might want to accentuate how the kernel is there and the use in non-GNU implementations count as Linux installs. If you're an Android dev inside Google you may downplay the kernel and care more about your stack penetration in the market, knowing the kernel underneath does not matter much. Windows user land runs atop a Linux kernel in Wine. Mac OS X has run on mach PPC kernel and ported to both Intel and a portion to ARM. I am sure if someone had the budget both Windows and Mac OS X user lands could be ported to a full POSIX, Linux kernel Operating System. Who knows, they may all be based on an open source kernel in the future. Why reinvent the wheel if everyone can chip in and all build, use and improve a common core. Being pedantic on this point of is it or is it not Linux at this stage in Linux's history is a bit counterproductive. I'd say claim it while you can.
No, actually, those links are the product information pages any mouth breather would click on to find out what they might be buying. Do you just buy something at a store having no prior knowledge of the product? If so, go back and get in line with the lemmings.
Oh, so now we get modded down for calling out concocted stories? Yup, that's about the limit for me. 1. To date there is no working quantum computer that has even been properly validated, so no. 2. Since when do editors post non-submitted content, or content not referencing the submitter? 3. SHENANIGANS!!!
Mod parent up! Hell no, brother! Read the title and immediately started playing in my head. Heh, heh.
Total Dice cooked story. Not a submitted by post. Look out if you don't know about this [BS company and their technology] you might get in trouble at work or miss something advantageous in the market! Oh, no! Total click bait. I call shenanigans.
It's the Linux kernel, for chrissakes. Why you would count embedded Linux installs and not Android is beyond me.
Then why not count OS X as another *nix and really blow the doors off, well, Windows would be the only other OS left? Oh, right, because it's not open source, except it is. And, it's as open as Android seems to really be. Customized underpinnings and a GUI customized on top. You can do that with Darwin.
Wow, took this long in the comments to find facts like, the shareholders voted it down by a large, landslide-and-a-half margin and that the board and management are also shareholders, duh! Fuck people are stupid about business yet speak like they know something! Worse than high school sex talk for crissake!
Tim Cook told a single owner to go *bleep!* himself. The shareholders as a whole voted specifically on this resolution, and rejected it.
Tim Cook owns shares, too. Just a little fact overlooked in the argument thus far.
No, the owner went way too far. Being an owner does not entitle you to behave like a pig.
Whoa! I demand a recount! Does Tim Cook or the jackass and whom he represents own more of the company? I'd bet (with options) Tim does. So, Tim told a lesser owner to take his money elsewhere if he didn't like the way Apple was doing things. I would say that was a valid assertion by someone who clearly knew better.
But.. what is green energy? Most of the things I've seen so far have been about as credible in terms of improving whatever "green" metric they claim to address as the products in the "nutrition supplements" aisle at the local drug store.
In a lot of places, the "green" solutions address only one real issue - satisfaction of some tax rule in order to allow the participant to enjoy a credit or to have tax-power-by-proxy. For instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D... Deepwater Wind has legislated ability to "sell" its electricity to the grid at 24 cents per kWh in a state where the current retail rate is currently about 8 cents per kWh (6 cents commercial).
That's not about green energy, that's taxing power that has been granted to a private entity over the rate payers. Worse, what stops them from the outright fraud of pulling power off the grid at the retail rate and returning it to the grid at their grossly inflated rate?
Wow, can I get some of what you're smoking? Wind power alone can generate enough to pay for itself and your neighbor if you live in an area with an average wind speed of 7 MPH for ten hours a day. Solar power is making slower strides lately but can be efficient in sufficient quantities, i.e. big ass data center square footage size. Nice single bad example cherry picking when there are dozens of successes that can also be Googled. Wind, solar, hydroelectric (forgot that one, eh?), and tidal are all viable energy solutions. And let's talk about the stupid municipal ordinances keeping people from installing wind power on their property, if you want to go all anti-tax, libertarian on the issue!
Unless you are running the company, you don't know what is in the best interest of the shareholders. I can think of quite a few cases where a company did what the shareholders wanted to the ultimate detriment of the company! (Think Dell, or Seagate...) Sometimes the best interest of the shareholder is to do things that either won't pay off for a long time, or will maybe never directly make any change to the share price, but will put the company in a better position for future growth, or appeal to a larger market. There are a lot of factors going on here, but the ROI to shareholders in my opinion is at the bottom of the barrel as long as he isn't damaging the company. As far as I am concerned, shareholders should be investing in a company because they like the direction the company is going. Attempting to muck around in that process for personal gain will ALWAYS be detrimental to the company.
You know absolutely nothing about how real institutional investment works do you? Most public stock is owned by hedge funds and pension funds. That means there is one person directing millions of shares of stock in a company. They don't care about anything but generating ROI. I don't know if you are aware of this, as your statements demonstrate you're not, but damaging a company equals bad ROI. Mr. Cook in this case did neither and simply shutdown some jackass that also did not understand how corporations and being a shareholder worked. He'd just seen it on TV or at the Cinema. That's fiction, btw. ;)