If the defendant is lucky, someone will actually point that facebook app retry thing to the defendant's lawyer. It may be a valid point for the defense, but only if it actually gets brought up during the case.
Every child should have his own implements of war!
Oh, wait... they stopped putting it on the munitions list in what, 1992? Well how about toy rockets, then? Toy Rockets can be very dangerous in the right hands!
The Three Laws stories, as I recall, explored interactions between the "three laws" themselves, and situations where obeying them led to contradictions. In particular, the R. Daneel Olivar stories questioned, "how do you determine whether a person is a (sufficiently advanced) robot following these directives, or simply a Good human being.
The question "is bricking a device considered murder", it brings many of the other staples of AI science fiction: if you activate a backup of an AI, is it a separate being? (the Clone issue) What qualifies as 'murder' when you can totally restore the victim? What qualifies as "mind control", and what are the limits? Is Harlie v2.0 the same being as Harlie 1.0?
In truth, I think that if we got to the point of your iPhone being considered an actual intelligence with rights of its own, we'd be far beyond where "bricking" would be politically acceptable corporate behavior.
If they can reasonably believe that an investigation is coming, it is still considered destruction of evidence.
On the other hand, if the warrant is for information about insider trading, your wikileaks project info has a small amount of protection.... until prosecutors find an excuse to hang a second warrant on.
As the folks at the local Verizon Wireless store told me when I went in to (try to) pay my Verizon (now Frontier?) phone bill, they are different companies.
I really, really wish sites like net-security.org (the site the article is on) would run simple spell checkers on their articles. Admittedly, you have to run something smarter than wordpad, but heck, you could paste it into a Firefox text entry box and get nominal spelling dictionary support.
Preferably a syntax checker too... "could may well affect the outcome" indeed!
I understand that there are perl interpreters for all major OSs these days. Which leaves me to intuit from your comment that wget (which I've not heard of before) is a linux executable, where win2ksp3 (clearly flagged for "windows 2000) is a windows one.
Without your comment, though, I would have nothing to base the question of what wget is or does. Sans a google search, one might well infer w(indows)get (as in HTTP command).
> That takes a special kind of ignorance.
Fixed that for ya. "Dumb" may be from other things (like repeating things, expecting different results, or not doing any research), but don't confuse it with ignorance.
The images that produces... ... vast wastelands of strip-mined social networks... ... database collapses, trapping a dozen IT workers at work for hours... ... data leeching ponds polluting nearby news sources, requiring EPA-Internet "Superfund site" declarations...
There are some exemptions (eg Kansas "penitent communications") for priests. But as I understand it, that merely means they can't require the priest to testify. It doesn't mean that (eg the prison) can't listen in.
The problem is, many people don't recognize something as a secret until after the fact.
Moreover, one person's secret is another person's everyday life is a third person's incriminating evidence. Many examples exist of photos on a facebook 'friend's page being the evidence in question.
Arista BNA Records Columbia Nashville Columbia Records Epic Records Jive Records jRecords Legacy Recordings Masterworks Provident Label Group RCA Records RCA Records Nashville Roc Nation Sony Music Latin Verity Records
Sony online games: Everquest / Everquest II Free Realms PlanetSide Star Wars Galaxies Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
Consoles: PlayStation (all varieties)
Movies: Sony Pictures Entertainment Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group
The sony wikipedia page gives you links to many of them. The Other Subsidiaries page lists subsidiaries and shareholders. If you're complaining about Sony's behavior, complain to the shareholders too.
Having said all that...
If your complaint is about the RIAA, boycotting SOE isn't going to affect the issue. If your complaint is about the playstation crack (IE Sony Computer Entertainment/America) then boycotting Columbia Records isn't on point either. Feel free to boycott both, if you want, but do so for the valid reasons given earlier.
If you want to boycott *at all*, you need a force multiplier: one person not buying Sony products won't show up even in the statistical noise. One person writing a prominent blog post, however, might get noticed. One person starting a class action lawsuit is likely to spend a lot of money.... and get real notice.
I'm unsure of your point. "National interest" is seldom limited by national boundaries. Nationalizing the canal was both in the national interest of Egypt, and within the sovereign power of the Egyptian state. And seizing control of the canal is scarcely something unique to Egypt. Britain did so in 1914.
At what point does "right" play into this?
Might look up the main Suez Canal page, as well as the Convention of Constantinople page. Interesting reading.
But then, I'm also confident that many of them were arbitrary, created by people ignorant of the inhabitants.
But my comment (such as you replied to) also applies to shifting demographics too. People move in to a place, and bring their own culture. Sometimes they're assimilated, changing both the host and guest cultures. Sometimes they're not. States are not terribly interested in changing their boundaries to reflect the realities of "cultural invasion". Happens on small scales (ie County within State in the US) as well as large, too.
If they are US government documents, then you are incorrect. The US cannot hold copyright on the work product of US employees performing their official duties. While exemptions exist (eg USPS, postage stamps), much of the works leaked by wikileaks would not be covered.
This doesn't cover state governments, foreign governments, or private corporations. But as I understand it, it IS the US government documents and media that we're talking about here.
> Which is why England and France attacked Egypt in 1956. ... which would be about the time Egypt nationalized the Suez canal, right?
The Six-day war in 1967 where Israel saw troops massing on all sides.
The Yom Kippur War in 1973 seeking to correct the 1967 'boundary changes' (and whatever else they could gain). The Camp David Accords in 1978, returning the Suez Canal to Egypt, and Egypt officially recognizing Israel as a state. Just so we're clear which national interests we're speaking of, instead of some nebulous "we want".
> many of the Arab states had their maps drawn by white westerners.
Many of the Arab states that had their maps drawn by white westerners weren't states (as we use the term) until those maps were drawn.
It is a testament to the durability of bureaucracies that even though those "nations" have been self-governing for some time, they haven't altered their borders to reflect the social boundaries that exist. Sudan is only recently coming to the point where it can consider changing its borders, and that only through armed violence.
Even Iraq didn't try a three-state solution (Sunni, Shia, Kurd), though I can't say how much of that was the negotiators meddling, and how much was the fear of Turkey, Iran, and the Saudis snatching up the pieces if they did so.
> The former SDS officer, who has now left the Met, said one stipulation by senior commanders was that undercover officers should be married, so that they had something to return to. He said the move was introduced when a spy never returned after five years undercover.
I wonder what the spouses of the officers thought about it.
Slashdot Mirror
Schizophrenics?
So instead of having to forge access, I'm simply given it? Wonder how many facebook IDs I can snoop while waiting for jury selection?
Hmm... wonder if the DA does any online banking?
... Giving this thread a Godwinization Score of 2?
If the defendant is lucky, someone will actually point that facebook app retry thing to the defendant's lawyer. It may be a valid point for the defense, but only if it actually gets brought up during the case.
> not having to go through truancy charges.
Ah, governmental blackmail. "You can go ahead and not do this, but you'll be subject to this shit we just whipped up to punish you."
Even governments are subject to this sort of shit.Consider federally mandated speed limits. Consider WIPO and ACTA.
Every child should have his own implements of war!
Oh, wait... they stopped putting it on the munitions list in what, 1992? Well how about toy rockets, then? Toy Rockets can be very dangerous in the right hands!
The Three Laws stories, as I recall, explored interactions between the "three laws" themselves, and situations where obeying them led to contradictions. In particular, the R. Daneel Olivar stories questioned, "how do you determine whether a person is a (sufficiently advanced) robot following these directives, or simply a Good human being.
The question "is bricking a device considered murder", it brings many of the other staples of AI science fiction: if you activate a backup of an AI, is it a separate being? (the Clone issue) What qualifies as 'murder' when you can totally restore the victim? What qualifies as "mind control", and what are the limits? Is Harlie v2.0 the same being as Harlie 1.0?
In truth, I think that if we got to the point of your iPhone being considered an actual intelligence with rights of its own, we'd be far beyond where "bricking" would be politically acceptable corporate behavior.
FOX even got a court to say the media can legally distort or falsify the news.
If they can reasonably believe that an investigation is coming, it is still considered destruction of evidence.
On the other hand, if the warrant is for information about insider trading, your wikileaks project info has a small amount of protection. ... until prosecutors find an excuse to hang a second warrant on.
> I want to live as long as possible. Preferable forever...
We can cover this by continuing to grow tissue samples of you for experimental purposes. Would you care to contribute your genome to science?
As the folks at the local Verizon Wireless store told me when I went in to (try to) pay my Verizon (now Frontier?) phone bill, they are different companies.
I really, really wish sites like net-security.org (the site the article is on) would run simple spell checkers on their articles. Admittedly, you have to run something smarter than wordpad, but heck, you could paste it into a Firefox text entry box and get nominal spelling dictionary support.
Preferably a syntax checker too... "could may well affect the outcome" indeed!
I understand that there are perl interpreters for all major OSs these days. Which leaves me to intuit from your comment that wget (which I've not heard of before) is a linux executable, where win2ksp3 (clearly flagged for "windows 2000) is a windows one.
Without your comment, though, I would have nothing to base the question of what wget is or does. Sans a google search, one might well infer w(indows)get (as in HTTP command).
> That takes a special kind of ignorance.
Fixed that for ya. "Dumb" may be from other things (like repeating things, expecting different results, or not doing any research), but don't confuse it with ignorance.
> Facebook isn't being "mined" for evidence.
The images that produces...
... vast wastelands of strip-mined social networks...
... database collapses, trapping a dozen IT workers at work for hours...
... data leeching ponds polluting nearby news sources, requiring EPA-Internet "Superfund site" declarations...
Or, perhaps, "everyone connected to Cell towers X, Y, and Z".
Even better: Have as great aerial coverage as you can, and investigate the dust clouds, instant seismic disturbances, and sudden disconnects....
There are some exemptions (eg Kansas "penitent communications") for priests. But as I understand it, that merely means they can't require the priest to testify. It doesn't mean that (eg the prison) can't listen in.
The problem is, many people don't recognize something as a secret until after the fact.
Moreover, one person's secret is another person's everyday life is a third person's incriminating evidence. Many examples exist of photos on a facebook 'friend's page being the evidence in question.
Gasp! You mean the RIAA shut down EGYPT!?
Sonymusic.com displays the labels Sony uses:
Arista
BNA Records
Columbia Nashville
Columbia Records
Epic Records
Jive Records
jRecords
Legacy Recordings
Masterworks
Provident Label Group
RCA Records
RCA Records Nashville
Roc Nation
Sony Music Latin
Verity Records
Sony online games:
Everquest / Everquest II
Free Realms
PlanetSide
Star Wars Galaxies
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
Consoles:
PlayStation (all varieties)
Movies:
Sony Pictures Entertainment
Columbia TriStar Motion Picture Group
The sony wikipedia page gives you links to many of them. The Other Subsidiaries page lists subsidiaries and shareholders. If you're complaining about Sony's behavior, complain to the shareholders too.
Having said all that...
If your complaint is about the RIAA, boycotting SOE isn't going to affect the issue. If your complaint is about the playstation crack (IE Sony Computer Entertainment/America) then boycotting Columbia Records isn't on point either. Feel free to boycott both, if you want, but do so for the valid reasons given earlier.
If you want to boycott *at all*, you need a force multiplier: one person not buying Sony products won't show up even in the statistical noise. One person writing a prominent blog post, however, might get noticed. One person starting a class action lawsuit is likely to spend a lot of money. ... and get real notice.
I'm unsure of your point. "National interest" is seldom limited by national boundaries. Nationalizing the canal was both in the national interest of Egypt, and within the sovereign power of the Egyptian state. And seizing control of the canal is scarcely something unique to Egypt. Britain did so in 1914.
At what point does "right" play into this?
Might look up the main Suez Canal page, as well as the Convention of Constantinople page. Interesting reading.
I'm confident that they weren't random.
But then, I'm also confident that many of them were arbitrary, created by people ignorant of the inhabitants.
But my comment (such as you replied to) also applies to shifting demographics too. People move in to a place, and bring their own culture. Sometimes they're assimilated, changing both the host and guest cultures. Sometimes they're not. States are not terribly interested in changing their boundaries to reflect the realities of "cultural invasion". Happens on small scales (ie County within State in the US) as well as large, too.
Which particular documents are you referring to?
If they are US government documents, then you are incorrect. The US cannot hold copyright on the work product of US employees performing their official duties. While exemptions exist (eg USPS, postage stamps), much of the works leaked by wikileaks would not be covered.
This doesn't cover state governments, foreign governments, or private corporations. But as I understand it, it IS the US government documents and media that we're talking about here.
You missed the classical reference.
Tongue, meet cheek.
> Which is why England and France attacked Egypt in 1956.
... which would be about the time Egypt nationalized the Suez canal, right?
The Six-day war in 1967 where Israel saw troops massing on all sides.
The Yom Kippur War in 1973 seeking to correct the 1967 'boundary changes' (and whatever else they could gain).
The Camp David Accords in 1978, returning the Suez Canal to Egypt, and Egypt officially recognizing Israel as a state. Just so we're clear which national interests we're speaking of, instead of some nebulous "we want".
> many of the Arab states had their maps drawn by white westerners.
Many of the Arab states that had their maps drawn by white westerners weren't states (as we use the term) until those maps were drawn.
It is a testament to the durability of bureaucracies that even though those "nations" have been self-governing for some time, they haven't altered their borders to reflect the social boundaries that exist. Sudan is only recently coming to the point where it can consider changing its borders, and that only through armed violence.
Even Iraq didn't try a three-state solution (Sunni, Shia, Kurd), though I can't say how much of that was the negotiators meddling, and how much was the fear of Turkey, Iran, and the Saudis snatching up the pieces if they did so.
> The former SDS officer, who has now left the Met, said one stipulation by senior commanders was that undercover officers should be married, so that they had something to return to. He said the move was introduced when a spy never returned after five years undercover.
I wonder what the spouses of the officers thought about it.