When I went to college the first week we were visited by the dean and told, if you want to graduate you have to try but 70% of you wont be here to graduate. About 10% of us graduated on time as software engineers. The others left for numerous reasons, cheating, grades, too difficult, partying more important, lack of interest, life, etc... Most of us had our own laptops for the last two years and though it wasnt required I dont know how I could have completed 25 to 30 credit hours per term and work a full time job without it. I maintained my own laptop as did the others and frankly given my profession if I couldnt maintain it I shouldnt graduate anyway. If there was porn on it then pat me on the back for finding time to look at it. So with all that blah blah blah, my thoughts are take the laptops off the budget. If they need it let them get a job and buy one. If its broke let them manage getting it fixed, thats a true life skill these days anyway, a valuable lesson. If they surf porn on it, dont shake their hands. If they use it to cheat, kick them out, tell them they cant use a laptop on campus again, fine them, or all the above.
Big business wont tolerate porn or cheating with company assets so pass that lesson forward in school as well. If you catch em deal with em but dont punish those that are benefitting honestly from the laptops.
As far as the school not maintaining a network..... join the 21st century, maybe its the schools that need to learn a little, build an adequate network and pay a couple tree hugging nerds a low salary to maintain it. Their everywhere! All in all my laptop was my greatest tool in school.... well next to Mt Dew!?!?
I would have thought that by now this problem wouldn't still be as bad as it was 20 years ago.
I think if your looking for alternate resources to learn then you have chosen the right approach. Get out there and ask! The internet is full of information.
I read one post that said you should try to narrow down what your looking for and I agree. Technology is a term that covers a universe of opportunity. Whether you looking to learn coding, hardware, electronics circuitry, or whatever YOU find interesting.
You can also join groups of people just like yourself on the net that take on small projects in the spirit of learning. I could sit here all day and dig up links for you but I'll just offer up these.
http://www.w3schools.com/http://planetsourcecode.com/
Do you already know what direction you want to go in?
hmmm well thats not really quoting me but I'll fall for it and reply anyway
This has drifted way off course. I'm not gonna sugar coat it for you so if you get your feelings hurt because you read what you want to hear from me then ok.
1. We all have garbage. Don't get your panties in a twist over it. We dont want yours anymore than you want ours. I really get the message that you don't want ours LOL!
2. When this country started there was nothing. Now there is an investment and like it or not there has to be a limitation on the rate that we give that away just for showing up.
3. You sort of got me here. I do have more right to be here than an immigrant crossing the boarder. Pretty cool isn't it!
Later days senorita! Peace out!
I agree that Mexico is a very likey route to the US for terrorist. I also favor the approach to tighten security on that boarder and put up the 'fence'. But thats another point that the US is focused on, just like gathering information from those entering the country via airlines from EU. The US is just trying to cover all points of entry and that is one of them. So what peice of information is the US requesting that makes you nervous?
"but you fully expect Europeans to simply let go of ours?"
I live here and the government has more information on me than my own family but I'm still just as free. Far more than 34 peices. I just dont see the harm in the US taking information from those entering the country for whatever reason.
I've enjoyed trips to Europe and never complained about the customs forms I had to fill out, I wish that information had been passed directly from the airline, it would have been a lot easier.
I just returned from a business trip recently and Customs is capable of questioning every arrival. I think the government was just trying to save everyone some time. If they want the information from an arrival they will get it, either from the airline (which Im sure is the legal root here) or from the individual.
As always though, we're still here for ya the next time your better protection and 50 years of dealing with terrorism falls through. We just choose not to bring it home unless its absolutely unavoidable.
The government already has all the data on those of us who live here. They are simply saying if you want to fly here the airline must provide 34 peices of data on you. This doesnt put you behind bars. This doesnt put your family in debt. This just provides data so you can be screened and contacted prior to entering the country. With all the people who have died around the world due to un-uniformed cowardly attacks I think this small effort to weed them out is nothing to complain about.
Maybe I took the wrong route using the word 'immigrants' but it sure turned up some personal bias from some Europeans. Its pretty obvious that Americans are all considered immigrants in their own country by a lof of slashdot Europeans. The more I think about it the more I have to consider that our ancestors who immigrated here were probably trying to get away from the Europeans ancestors and the logic seems to have passed down.
I served on foreign soil next to British, French, Italian, Korean, and German soldiers and I have to say I got along with all of them. Everyone realized the world had a problem that needed to be fixed. Well here we are with a problem that needs to be fixed and information is one of the best approaches to take. The US is simply saying if you want to come here you must provide these bits of information. And by indications the US isnt saying stay home, though I think they should, they are saying if you dont provide the information you will have a delay while you talk to us about it.
I would expect no less traveling to Europe. I have been detained by Customs in Europe and I followed the procedures without complaint because I was in someone elses country and they have a right to run it the way they want.
It's just frustrating I guess... we're on here arguing with each other while the enemy is out there cutting our heads off and screaming for their supporters to join them in killing us all. They arent being picky either, they dont want your information, they just want you dead. Well at least your 1000% free until they get you.
But you are talking about immigrants. The mode of entry is the same. A malicious person is probably going to lie about why they are going to the US so it really doesn't matter. So whether immigrant or tourist or very lost the information needs to be supplied to enter the US. Europe should adopt the same policy, isolate the cause and help the world get rid of it.
immigrant (m-grnt)
n.
A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another.
Nit-Pik all you want, the planes carry immigrants to the US so the planes need to provide background information on who they carry so the US can return unwanted garbage from overseas.
I take it your indicating that about 300 years ago, give or take, most of our forefathers immigrated here. Well your right. But they are all dead now and those of us decended from them are not immigrants.
So where are you getting your statistics anyway or was that a random mind fart?
I have long cringed at the sound of a buzz word or phrase when used to 'guide' me or 'encourage' me. I developed a tactic for 'giving it back to the man.' I simply take the buzz word and convert it with a thesarus and put it up high on every dry erase board I come across. It took a little time for the masses to figure it out but once they did the buzz word or phrase became open joke even among management thus killing its appeal to its creator. I think for me the scary part is when one of the translations becomes appealing and then I become one of 'them'..... wait this isn't good!
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When I went to college the first week we were visited by the dean and told, if you want to graduate you have to try but 70% of you wont be here to graduate. About 10% of us graduated on time as software engineers. The others left for numerous reasons, cheating, grades, too difficult, partying more important, lack of interest, life, etc... Most of us had our own laptops for the last two years and though it wasnt required I dont know how I could have completed 25 to 30 credit hours per term and work a full time job without it. I maintained my own laptop as did the others and frankly given my profession if I couldnt maintain it I shouldnt graduate anyway. If there was porn on it then pat me on the back for finding time to look at it. So with all that blah blah blah, my thoughts are take the laptops off the budget. If they need it let them get a job and buy one. If its broke let them manage getting it fixed, thats a true life skill these days anyway, a valuable lesson. If they surf porn on it, dont shake their hands. If they use it to cheat, kick them out, tell them they cant use a laptop on campus again, fine them, or all the above.
Big business wont tolerate porn or cheating with company assets so pass that lesson forward in school as well. If you catch em deal with em but dont punish those that are benefitting honestly from the laptops.
As far as the school not maintaining a network..... join the 21st century, maybe its the schools that need to learn a little, build an adequate network and pay a couple tree hugging nerds a low salary to maintain it. Their everywhere!
All in all my laptop was my greatest tool in school.... well next to Mt Dew!?!?
Next, someone will be arrested for whistling a tune while they work! ok... take a deep breath... go download some music... relax
LOL!
I would have thought that by now this problem wouldn't still be as bad as it was 20 years ago. I think if your looking for alternate resources to learn then you have chosen the right approach. Get out there and ask! The internet is full of information. I read one post that said you should try to narrow down what your looking for and I agree. Technology is a term that covers a universe of opportunity. Whether you looking to learn coding, hardware, electronics circuitry, or whatever YOU find interesting. You can also join groups of people just like yourself on the net that take on small projects in the spirit of learning. I could sit here all day and dig up links for you but I'll just offer up these. http://www.w3schools.com/ http://planetsourcecode.com/ Do you already know what direction you want to go in?
hmmm well thats not really quoting me but I'll fall for it and reply anyway This has drifted way off course. I'm not gonna sugar coat it for you so if you get your feelings hurt because you read what you want to hear from me then ok. 1. We all have garbage. Don't get your panties in a twist over it. We dont want yours anymore than you want ours. I really get the message that you don't want ours LOL! 2. When this country started there was nothing. Now there is an investment and like it or not there has to be a limitation on the rate that we give that away just for showing up. 3. You sort of got me here. I do have more right to be here than an immigrant crossing the boarder. Pretty cool isn't it! Later days senorita! Peace out!
I agree that Mexico is a very likey route to the US for terrorist. I also favor the approach to tighten security on that boarder and put up the 'fence'. But thats another point that the US is focused on, just like gathering information from those entering the country via airlines from EU. The US is just trying to cover all points of entry and that is one of them. So what peice of information is the US requesting that makes you nervous? "but you fully expect Europeans to simply let go of ours?" I live here and the government has more information on me than my own family but I'm still just as free. Far more than 34 peices. I just dont see the harm in the US taking information from those entering the country for whatever reason. I've enjoyed trips to Europe and never complained about the customs forms I had to fill out, I wish that information had been passed directly from the airline, it would have been a lot easier. I just returned from a business trip recently and Customs is capable of questioning every arrival. I think the government was just trying to save everyone some time. If they want the information from an arrival they will get it, either from the airline (which Im sure is the legal root here) or from the individual. As always though, we're still here for ya the next time your better protection and 50 years of dealing with terrorism falls through. We just choose not to bring it home unless its absolutely unavoidable.
The government already has all the data on those of us who live here. They are simply saying if you want to fly here the airline must provide 34 peices of data on you. This doesnt put you behind bars. This doesnt put your family in debt. This just provides data so you can be screened and contacted prior to entering the country. With all the people who have died around the world due to un-uniformed cowardly attacks I think this small effort to weed them out is nothing to complain about. Maybe I took the wrong route using the word 'immigrants' but it sure turned up some personal bias from some Europeans. Its pretty obvious that Americans are all considered immigrants in their own country by a lof of slashdot Europeans. The more I think about it the more I have to consider that our ancestors who immigrated here were probably trying to get away from the Europeans ancestors and the logic seems to have passed down. I served on foreign soil next to British, French, Italian, Korean, and German soldiers and I have to say I got along with all of them. Everyone realized the world had a problem that needed to be fixed. Well here we are with a problem that needs to be fixed and information is one of the best approaches to take. The US is simply saying if you want to come here you must provide these bits of information. And by indications the US isnt saying stay home, though I think they should, they are saying if you dont provide the information you will have a delay while you talk to us about it. I would expect no less traveling to Europe. I have been detained by Customs in Europe and I followed the procedures without complaint because I was in someone elses country and they have a right to run it the way they want. It's just frustrating I guess... we're on here arguing with each other while the enemy is out there cutting our heads off and screaming for their supporters to join them in killing us all. They arent being picky either, they dont want your information, they just want you dead. Well at least your 1000% free until they get you.
There you go! When logic fails talk crap! Very 'Anonymous Coward' of you.
But you are talking about immigrants. The mode of entry is the same. A malicious person is probably going to lie about why they are going to the US so it really doesn't matter. So whether immigrant or tourist or very lost the information needs to be supplied to enter the US. Europe should adopt the same policy, isolate the cause and help the world get rid of it.
Refresh my memory.... what is a reservate?
immigrant (m-grnt) n. A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another. Nit-Pik all you want, the planes carry immigrants to the US so the planes need to provide background information on who they carry so the US can return unwanted garbage from overseas. I take it your indicating that about 300 years ago, give or take, most of our forefathers immigrated here. Well your right. But they are all dead now and those of us decended from them are not immigrants. So where are you getting your statistics anyway or was that a random mind fart?
The more data we have on immigrants the better. If you dont want to give it up, stay home, we'll try not to lose any sleep over it.
I have long cringed at the sound of a buzz word or phrase when used to 'guide' me or 'encourage' me. I developed a tactic for 'giving it back to the man.' I simply take the buzz word and convert it with a thesarus and put it up high on every dry erase board I come across. It took a little time for the masses to figure it out but once they did the buzz word or phrase became open joke even among management thus killing its appeal to its creator. I think for me the scary part is when one of the translations becomes appealing and then I become one of 'them'..... wait this isn't good!