Clearly we have different definitions of "Works". I see that as the negative outcome.
The positive outcome, is the FBI gets hacked, sensitive and embarrassing data gets released.... a congressional investigation into the FBI is launched,....and many FBI agents meet up with the unemployment line, or jail time.
Then again, thats just my wet dream.... we clearly care about different teams. Funny that I am not the one posting anonymously.
Um duh yes, enemy soldiers that you are fighting, on the battlefield are a threat TO your soldiers. Way to miss the point.
Please give me the date and location where the NVA or Koreans invaded continental US soil. Please show me the military assessment that showed that not dealing with them presented an immediate and real threat to the people of this country.
Al Quida, of all of the "threats" came closest with... their one major attack, and a couple of failed attempts. However, closest was still a million miles away, as they were little more than a mosquito on the ass of our civilization. Our response harmed us thousands of times more than they ever could have realistically done.
So yes... no credible threats that rose to the level of justifying sending our murder squads out to do war.
Yah maybe if there were actually real threats that NATO was needed for... they might take security seriously. Given that they are just an excuse for nations to dump money into military contractor pockets (much like the US military who hasn't fought a real threat since the early 40s)... well why should they give a shit?
Intrusions? Data gets lost? Clearly that means they need more budget. This will be a windfall for them.
I was thinking the point was to get them to cause a huge mess over the whole deal, get the police involved, and waste everyones time.... making them look like even bigger jackasses in the end, and showing one more reason why this is completely unjustified.... and because it would be funny to show the cops the amature video production and then get all indigent about privacy violation.
Ok so each time its rented, generate a new key, give it to the customer. Laptop encrypts each photo. If laptop is stolen the customer can be asked to turn over the key. If not... no privacy issues, and no covert bs going on.
Better. Get your own cam. Make a cheapo amature film. make sure the laptop only ever spends lots of time on and in positions showing raunchy sex and what looks like a murder and cleanup.
Yes, whack a mole is a fun game and will keep them in overtime for years to come.
ROTFL yes very effective. I bet catching 12 people, who may or may not have been anyone of real interest, will shut the anonymous collective right down. Yup this is it for them lol.
They made some points biting at the anonymous hand. Bitchslap is now pending. Now the FBI moved, its time for their betters to make their move.
Um.... I was merely stating facts, not advocating for their use.
Their side effects are fucking crazy, its true. Thorazine, after a single dose, can cause a permanent parkinsons-like syndrome. However, that doesn't change that off label uses of some of these are common.
Of course it is BS, but, isn't that what Anonymous is? What any leadership is? A bit of BS to get people to work.
Point them at their tools, give them a vision on what to build.... and a little BS to help convince them to do it. Money never hurts but, when it isn't readily available for a cause, sometimes people will do it anyway.
What more does anonymous need for leaders than anyone who will jump up for a second and say "hey lets all do X". Then, whoever wants to join in, does X. Whoever thinks it is lame, or isn't interested, doesn't. Whoever thinks its a bad idea jumps up and says so too.
With a forum setup, if they can get enough people with the right talents and free time on board, then designing the software and building it should hardly be the serious hurdles. Gaining wider acceptance and scaling if it works out, those will be bigger.
I was thinking....Freenet would be an interesting backend. Though, comes with its own problems.... but a "social network" overlaps nicely with freenet's darknet connections.... so there are some overlapping goals.
Could be just the killer app freenet has needed to actually build the network to a decent size.
um well.... yah. All true. Can't argue with that. However.... sadly their usefulness is not recognized.
Maybe once pot is legalized some of the money being wasted on this stupid battle that we shouldn't have to fight, can be funnelled into MAPS to expand their research and try to change some minds. So far there is some evidence for these things, and books like LSD Psychotherapy by Groff or the Secret Chief are great but, only can do so much.
Once pot is legal though...well there are twice as many potheads as the next 3 major illicit drugs combined. That should really take the wind out of the sails of the drug warriors, and hopefully it should be easier to make progress. There is already talk of shuttering the ONDCP, and that would help cut out a lot of the static in the signal.
As you can see there, some anti-psychotics are used to treat depression, OCD, and PTSD. Each of which, I believe represents a larger section of the population than people who are actually psychotic. I would not be surprised if the off label use in the larger population of those patients, could easily dwarf the real psychotics, or at least swell the numbers quite a bit.
And I do believe it to be somewhat common, a couple of times different people told me what medications they were on, and I looked them up to find out one was an anti-psychotic, that was being given for an off-label indication.
Not only does that explanation make a lot of sense.... it also shows that all the people saying that gravitational systems move farther apart as they lose energy are dead wrong. It is in fact the transfer of energy from the earth to the moon that is causing it to move farther away. So my doomsday scenario doesn't work because the earth drags the sea in front of the moons orbit, adding drag. Putting these in the water seems like it would, tend to increase the coupling between the earth and the water, increasing that drag, transfering MORE energy from angular momentum into kinetic motion of the gravitational bodies..... fine.... makes sense.
so what is the doomsday scenario here? I kinda liked the Jesus/Moon cult.
I really feel put in my place now. Its ok though, afterall, I am ignorant for a reason right? Becuase it would be dangerous for me to know. Makes it really easy for you eh? No need to actually justify anything how about some more vague blanket statements, they are so elucidating.
Yes...thats exactly what I said, way to read between the lines....as they head right off the page and out into space. Clearly any notion that there is anything that could be worked around is nothing less than a total dismissal of the entire problem! How could i tbe any other way.... certainly not an interesting side note on the discussion. That would be just...silly.
ROTFL I was thinking the exact same thing. I eagerly await the expose of all of the sordid details of McCain's dealings. I hope for his sake he deleted his entire mail spool and all backups before he said that. Wait...no I don't... I can't wait to donload every email he has ever sent.
He has ineptly swatted at the hive that is Legion. He is going to get stung in his geriatric ass.
What was stupid about that? You actually think they wanted to win that one? They knew where the economy was and where it was heading. They threw that race to Obama, since he is pretty much a moderate republican anyway. Hell...his "universal health care" plan was Dole Care.... and HE came right out of the gate with his first move....removing real reform from the table.
both support continued reliance on the fed to print money out o fthin air, and have no issue whatsoever with that new money comming in to devalue all existing dollars.... and just giving it away in the form of no-recourse low to no interest loans to theirultra-rich buddies.
Its like welfare....for the people who need it the least. Talk about the foxes running the hen house.
Now who wanted to stop all of this BS? Oh wait.... nobody with any clout.
- Both sides support the TREASONOUS war on the american population in the name of changing our personal recreational drug habits. - Both sides support keeping the military large and growing it, keeping all 700+ foreign military bases, neither side has even tried to pull out of Korea, much less anywhere else. - Both sides support continues civil rights abuses in the name of Fatherland Security - Both sides support sweeping torture under the rug - Both support continued borrowing with no end in sight
and....
- Both fall in line for massive bipartisan support whenever Disney is in danger of loosing copyright on Mickey Mouse
Personally, I have no faith, have totally given up on this government, I want nothing more than to see it FALL in my lifetime so we can build something better.... something by the people and for the people, rather than this steaming pile which was, from day one, about protecting the rights of the wealthy from everyone else.
Lets not forget, everyone touts how blacks and women fought for the right to vote, but forget.... initially, only wealthy land owners could. This was never our government.
Well... every great plan has to have a doomsday scenario or two. This one is the worst yet.
As we know the tides are primarily caused by gravitational drag from the orbit of the moon. The moon has enough velocity that its orbit is actually widening, meaning the grip between the two bodies is getting ever so infinitesimally smaller. One generator stealing energy from this system is nothing, but once we start investing in it hardcore... the reduction in wave energy leads to extra gravitational drag on the moon, slowing its orbit... causing it to stop advancing, and be pulled in towards the earth.
By the time this is noticed, it is too early to convince politicians that something must be done now, and in fact, the push to convert more power over to wave energy.
How does it end? Well political infighting, and a new ad campaign by the deep ocean energy harvesters association begins extolling the virtues of the new larger moon, and begin funding both PR campaigns for surfing associations and contests.... and the new moon cult which has begun preaching that the moon is actually Jesus returning to earth. As part of their agreement with the energy harvesters, the cult members primary ritual consists of running Air conditioning all day long, with their windows open and bitcoin mining.
and as someone who has been investigating getting some apple trees... apples need for a pollinator can be diminished by grafting different/compatible varieties to the same tree... physically reducing the distance that pollen needs to travel.
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Clearly we have different definitions of "Works". I see that as the negative outcome.
The positive outcome, is the FBI gets hacked, sensitive and embarrassing data gets released.... a congressional investigation into the FBI is launched,....and many FBI agents meet up with the unemployment line, or jail time.
Then again, thats just my wet dream.... we clearly care about different teams. Funny that I am not the one posting anonymously.
Um duh yes, enemy soldiers that you are fighting, on the battlefield are a threat TO your soldiers. Way to miss the point.
Please give me the date and location where the NVA or Koreans invaded continental US soil. Please show me the military assessment that showed that not dealing with them presented an immediate and real threat to the people of this country.
Al Quida, of all of the "threats" came closest with... their one major attack, and a couple of failed attempts. However, closest was still a million miles away, as they were little more than a mosquito on the ass of our civilization. Our response harmed us thousands of times more than they ever could have realistically done.
So yes... no credible threats that rose to the level of justifying sending our murder squads out to do war.
Yah maybe if there were actually real threats that NATO was needed for... they might take security seriously. Given that they are just an excuse for nations to dump money into military contractor pockets (much like the US military who hasn't fought a real threat since the early 40s)... well why should they give a shit?
Intrusions? Data gets lost? Clearly that means they need more budget. This will be a windfall for them.
I was thinking the point was to get them to cause a huge mess over the whole deal, get the police involved, and waste everyones time.... making them look like even bigger jackasses in the end, and showing one more reason why this is completely unjustified. ... and because it would be funny to show the cops the amature video production and then get all indigent about privacy violation.
Rooting for the other team is all.
Ok so each time its rented, generate a new key, give it to the customer. Laptop encrypts each photo. If laptop is stolen the customer can be asked to turn over the key. If not... no privacy issues, and no covert bs going on.
Better. Get your own cam. Make a cheapo amature film. make sure the laptop only ever spends lots of time on and in positions showing raunchy sex and what looks like a murder and cleanup.
If by "works" you mean it convinves more anons to hide their tracks better and remain anons then I hope you are right.
Yes, whack a mole is a fun game and will keep them in overtime for years to come.
ROTFL yes very effective. I bet catching 12 people, who may or may not have been anyone of real interest, will shut the anonymous collective right down. Yup this is it for them lol.
They made some points biting at the anonymous hand. Bitchslap is now pending. Now the FBI moved, its time for their betters to make their move.
Um.... I was merely stating facts, not advocating for their use.
Their side effects are fucking crazy, its true. Thorazine, after a single dose, can cause a permanent parkinsons-like syndrome. However, that doesn't change that off label uses of some of these are common.
Of course it is BS, but, isn't that what Anonymous is? What any leadership is? A bit of BS to get people to work.
Point them at their tools, give them a vision on what to build.... and a little BS to help convince them to do it. Money never hurts but, when it isn't readily available for a cause, sometimes people will do it anyway.
What more does anonymous need for leaders than anyone who will jump up for a second and say "hey lets all do X". Then, whoever wants to join in, does X. Whoever thinks it is lame, or isn't interested, doesn't. Whoever thinks its a bad idea jumps up and says so too.
With a forum setup, if they can get enough people with the right talents and free time on board, then designing the software and building it should hardly be the serious hurdles. Gaining wider acceptance and scaling if it works out, those will be bigger.
I was thinking....Freenet would be an interesting backend. Though, comes with its own problems.... but a "social network" overlaps nicely with freenet's darknet connections.... so there are some overlapping goals.
Could be just the killer app freenet has needed to actually build the network to a decent size.
um well.... yah. All true. Can't argue with that. However.... sadly their usefulness is not recognized.
Maybe once pot is legalized some of the money being wasted on this stupid battle that we shouldn't have to fight, can be funnelled into MAPS to expand their research and try to change some minds. So far there is some evidence for these things, and books like LSD Psychotherapy by Groff or the Secret Chief are great but, only can do so much.
Once pot is legal though...well there are twice as many potheads as the next 3 major illicit drugs combined. That should really take the wind out of the sails of the drug warriors, and hopefully it should be easier to make progress. There is already talk of shuttering the ONDCP, and that would help cut out a lot of the static in the signal.
Anti-psychotics are an interesting class of drugs in their own right. That said, many drugs have uses other than their primary one.
http://www.effectivehealthcare.ahrq.gov/index.cfm/search-for-guides-reviews-and-reports/?productid=8&pageaction=displayproduct
As you can see there, some anti-psychotics are used to treat depression, OCD, and PTSD. Each of which, I believe represents a larger section of the population than people who are actually psychotic. I would not be surprised if the off label use in the larger population of those patients, could easily dwarf the real psychotics, or at least swell the numbers quite a bit.
And I do believe it to be somewhat common, a couple of times different people told me what medications they were on, and I looked them up to find out one was an anti-psychotic, that was being given for an off-label indication.
Not only does that explanation make a lot of sense.... it also shows that all the people saying that gravitational systems move farther apart as they lose energy are dead wrong. It is in fact the transfer of energy from the earth to the moon that is causing it to move farther away. So my doomsday scenario doesn't work because the earth drags the sea in front of the moons orbit, adding drag. Putting these in the water seems like it would, tend to increase the coupling between the earth and the water, increasing that drag, transfering MORE energy from angular momentum into kinetic motion of the gravitational bodies..... fine.... makes sense.
so what is the doomsday scenario here? I kinda liked the Jesus/Moon cult.
I really feel put in my place now. Its ok though, afterall, I am ignorant for a reason right? Becuase it would be dangerous for me to know. Makes it really easy for you eh? No need to actually justify anything how about some more vague blanket statements, they are so elucidating.
Yes...thats exactly what I said, way to read between the lines....as they head right off the page and out into space. Clearly any notion that there is anything that could be worked around is nothing less than a total dismissal of the entire problem! How could i tbe any other way.... certainly not an interesting side note on the discussion. That would be just...silly.
ROTFL I was thinking the exact same thing. I eagerly await the expose of all of the sordid details of McCain's dealings. I hope for his sake he deleted his entire mail spool and all backups before he said that. Wait...no I don't... I can't wait to donload every email he has ever sent.
He has ineptly swatted at the hive that is Legion. He is going to get stung in his geriatric ass.
What was stupid about that? You actually think they wanted to win that one? They knew where the economy was and where it was heading. They threw that race to Obama, since he is pretty much a moderate republican anyway. Hell...his "universal health care" plan was Dole Care.... and HE came right out of the gate with his first move....removing real reform from the table.
Why bother to win when you can't lose?
Oh sorry...forgot a big one,....
both support continued reliance on the fed to print money out o fthin air, and have no issue whatsoever with that new money comming in to devalue all existing dollars.... and just giving it away in the form of no-recourse low to no interest loans to theirultra-rich buddies.
Its like welfare....for the people who need it the least. Talk about the foxes running the hen house.
Now who wanted to stop all of this BS? Oh wait.... nobody with any clout.
Nice way to cherry pick a few issues. My turn.
- Both sides support the TREASONOUS war on the american population in the name of changing our personal recreational drug habits.
- Both sides support keeping the military large and growing it, keeping all 700+ foreign military bases, neither side has even tried to pull out of Korea, much less anywhere else.
- Both sides support continues civil rights abuses in the name of Fatherland Security
- Both sides support sweeping torture under the rug
- Both support continued borrowing with no end in sight
and....
- Both fall in line for massive bipartisan support whenever Disney is in danger of loosing copyright on Mickey Mouse
Personally, I have no faith, have totally given up on this government, I want nothing more than to see it FALL in my lifetime so we can build something better.... something by the people and for the people, rather than this steaming pile which was, from day one, about protecting the rights of the wealthy from everyone else.
Lets not forget, everyone touts how blacks and women fought for the right to vote, but forget.... initially, only wealthy land owners could. This was never our government.
ROTFL you think one dollar gets you a vote? The dollar isn't worth nearly that much.
Um... where do you think they came from before?
Well... every great plan has to have a doomsday scenario or two. This one is the worst yet.
As we know the tides are primarily caused by gravitational drag from the orbit of the moon. The moon has enough velocity that its orbit is actually widening, meaning the grip between the two bodies is getting ever so infinitesimally smaller. One generator stealing energy from this system is nothing, but once we start investing in it hardcore... the reduction in wave energy leads to extra gravitational drag on the moon, slowing its orbit... causing it to stop advancing, and be pulled in towards the earth.
By the time this is noticed, it is too early to convince politicians that something must be done now, and in fact, the push to convert more power over to wave energy.
How does it end? Well political infighting, and a new ad campaign by the deep ocean energy harvesters association begins extolling the virtues of the new larger moon, and begin funding both PR campaigns for surfing associations and contests.... and the new moon cult which has begun preaching that the moon is actually Jesus returning to earth. As part of their agreement with the energy harvesters, the cult members primary ritual consists of running Air conditioning all day long, with their windows open and bitcoin mining.
and as someone who has been investigating getting some apple trees... apples need for a pollinator can be diminished by grafting different/compatible varieties to the same tree... physically reducing the distance that pollen needs to travel.
I am sure that the resident of montana really appreciated it.... both of them