Reason was originally for figuring out how to make sharp sticks and poke them into animals. After that stopped being such a problem, it was for poking sharp sticks into your neighbors.
Or for deluding oneself into thinking that one's neighbors are equivalent to animals, removing the guilt from the act of poking them with sharp sticks.
You disable shutdown because users are stupid. "My computer runs slow when I turn it on every morning, and sometimes it takes a long time to boot up" "I shut down my computer when I leave for the day" Those are two statements that almost always run hand in hand, and statement one is often called in as a trouble ticket. Letting a computer go to sleep is good enough for power savings if, like with macs, there's no way to power them on remotely with WOL.
I'm not talking about suicide being bad. I'm talking about getting the family together around the TV to watch a real man die (probably during dinner) -and have it be socially acceptable - being bad. Running Man? Max Headroom? I know the concepts in those pieces of fiction aren't as alien today, but when they were made, they were supposed to be shocking. Of course, people went to public executions for thousands of years too, but we're supposed to be beyond that in western culture these days.
The first is something that is unexpected, or at least not entirely expected (it's ghoulish to do live video of a guy standing on a ledge, because you know there's a chance he might jump). The other is planned, orchestrated, around the death. This is what prosecutors call "evil intent". They know what's going to happen, and they want it to happen to improve their TV ratings.
Firstly, it was on the BBC. So they don't take advertiser's money.
True, the BBC as an entity isn't making a profit off this, but the people in the BBC are. They're not volunteers. They're getting paid to do this, and part of the reason they're keeping their jobs is because they keep pushing the envelope (strange to hear myself say that about a British group).
Conversations about difficult subjects mean that civilizations are going 'downhill'?
This isn't a television show about conversations. This is "The First Suicide on the Beeb! See it while it's being aired or you'll be the loser at the water cooler that didn't watch the legalized snuff film!"
It's one thing to have a live news camera on scene when a crazy person jumps from a ledge or immolates themselves, but it's quite another when a show is being created with the purpose of people profiting (non-profit? Ha!) off a man's death. Western civilization is going down fast; I remember a time when this very scenario was the nightmare end of a slippery slope argument...
2014- finger amputated due to irreparable physical damage.
2015- finger amputated due to zombie plague virus. Continue to monitor amputation site for signs of necropsy.
wouldn't it be nice to know which finger is which if the person is brought to the hospital unconscious?
When you do any system maintenance during the day on any computers, people groan and complain (and some people can point out business cases of why it hurts productivity). After normal work hours is the best time for a lot of sysadmin stuff to be done, whether on servers or desktops. After hours, your computer belongs to IT. We remove the shutdown option from the GUI menus for a reason. Don't touch the power button, no matter what the "Go Green, Save the Planet" pamphlet you got from HR said.
No, I don't. Standby _is_ sleep-mode. I mean OFF. As in: the NIC is getting just enough juice to check for magic packets, and the Mobo is getting just enough juice to check if the NIC has received a magic packet and keep the BIOS time set. No OS running, RAM zeroed out. There is no true "power consumption zero" on computers unless you unplug them. Just about every computer except for Apple (and some Apple computers like Xserves) leave the NIC on for WOL when the computer is off. Apple hates corporate sales, though, so they'll never implement it on the desktop.
Of course the point of turning on the machines after hours is so that the scheduled AV scans happen at night when they should occur instead of during business hours. Although manually initiating scans is possible, along with the system updates, new software installs, and filesystem checks.
And that's why Symantec Endpoint Protection Console Service works with MacOSX clients? I bet real sysadmins don't scan linux mail or samba severs with clamav either.
Turn them off (not in sleep mode; really off) and send them a magic packet. Notice how they don't turn on? Apple only half implemented WOL. It works on XServes though, although you can't buy those anymore.
Even if lulzsec is CN, that still means they're dangerous in a DnD sense. Paladins, Rangers, and Town Guards would gladly see them dead or in chains. As Macross the Black stated to Pug, evil intent isn't necessary for something to be so dangerous it needs to be stopped for the good of organized society.
A computer uses anywhere from 5W when "turned off". A few W more when STR, maybe 7W. It's from the standby power lead.
At $0.10/kWh, 7W for 18h/day, this works out to about $4.60/year/computer. So if you have 1000 computers, this gets you at least $4600 in savings if you have a policy of a real shutdown of a computer (ie. a switch that cuts power to computer)
And if you have 1000 iMac computers, you're wasting $50 or more a night as a sysadmin walks around the floor turning them on by hand for system updates, software installs, and virus scans, cursing dumb power policies, and Apple (for not having a real WOL).
Doody face poo-poo head! Name calling of that sort has no place in informed and intelligent discourse.
The ridiculous notion spread around that people who are below, at, or barely above the poverty line should "pay their fair share" (what the fuck is "their fair share" anyways?) for things that go to the public good overall
Their fair share is something more than 0 (or more than negative as it is in some cases). The poverty line isn't at the same place it was decades ago. There are truly poor people, usually homeless, living day to day, being cared for by the people around them, and then there are people below the poverty line like I used to be, with my computer, car, air conditioned apartment, 3-squares a day, all without government assistance (unless you count taking EIC once). I didn't have internet access at home, but I had it at work. Yes, I was juggling money and often raced to the bank to beat a check, but I knew that even then, I lived like a king compared to people from ages past (or the folks in the shelters or third world countries today).
Pft. Our wars will be done via computer simulation, and people will feel duty-bound to walk into the recycling booths when the computers say they were "killed".
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Reason was originally for figuring out how to make sharp sticks and poke them into animals. After that stopped being such a problem, it was for poking sharp sticks into your neighbors.
Or for deluding oneself into thinking that one's neighbors are equivalent to animals, removing the guilt from the act of poking them with sharp sticks.
You disable shutdown because users are stupid. "My computer runs slow when I turn it on every morning, and sometimes it takes a long time to boot up" "I shut down my computer when I leave for the day" Those are two statements that almost always run hand in hand, and statement one is often called in as a trouble ticket. Letting a computer go to sleep is good enough for power savings if, like with macs, there's no way to power them on remotely with WOL.
I'm not talking about suicide being bad. I'm talking about getting the family together around the TV to watch a real man die (probably during dinner) -and have it be socially acceptable - being bad. Running Man? Max Headroom? I know the concepts in those pieces of fiction aren't as alien today, but when they were made, they were supposed to be shocking. Of course, people went to public executions for thousands of years too, but we're supposed to be beyond that in western culture these days.
Please tell me what the difference is.
The first is something that is unexpected, or at least not entirely expected (it's ghoulish to do live video of a guy standing on a ledge, because you know there's a chance he might jump). The other is planned, orchestrated, around the death. This is what prosecutors call "evil intent". They know what's going to happen, and they want it to happen to improve their TV ratings.
Firstly, it was on the BBC. So they don't take advertiser's money.
True, the BBC as an entity isn't making a profit off this, but the people in the BBC are. They're not volunteers. They're getting paid to do this, and part of the reason they're keeping their jobs is because they keep pushing the envelope (strange to hear myself say that about a British group).
Conversations about difficult subjects mean that civilizations are going 'downhill'?
This isn't a television show about conversations. This is "The First Suicide on the Beeb! See it while it's being aired or you'll be the loser at the water cooler that didn't watch the legalized snuff film!"
It's one thing to have a live news camera on scene when a crazy person jumps from a ledge or immolates themselves, but it's quite another when a show is being created with the purpose of people profiting (non-profit? Ha!) off a man's death. Western civilization is going down fast; I remember a time when this very scenario was the nightmare end of a slippery slope argument...
If they do die, the get brought back in some convoluted storyline, like a time-travel bullet.
2014- finger amputated due to irreparable physical damage.
2015- finger amputated due to zombie plague virus. Continue to monitor amputation site for signs of necropsy.
wouldn't it be nice to know which finger is which if the person is brought to the hospital unconscious?
When you do any system maintenance during the day on any computers, people groan and complain (and some people can point out business cases of why it hurts productivity). After normal work hours is the best time for a lot of sysadmin stuff to be done, whether on servers or desktops. After hours, your computer belongs to IT. We remove the shutdown option from the GUI menus for a reason. Don't touch the power button, no matter what the "Go Green, Save the Planet" pamphlet you got from HR said.
I get with "off" you mean "standby"?
No, I don't. Standby _is_ sleep-mode. I mean OFF. As in: the NIC is getting just enough juice to check for magic packets, and the Mobo is getting just enough juice to check if the NIC has received a magic packet and keep the BIOS time set. No OS running, RAM zeroed out. There is no true "power consumption zero" on computers unless you unplug them. Just about every computer except for Apple (and some Apple computers like Xserves) leave the NIC on for WOL when the computer is off. Apple hates corporate sales, though, so they'll never implement it on the desktop.
Of course the point of turning on the machines after hours is so that the scheduled AV scans happen at night when they should occur instead of during business hours. Although manually initiating scans is possible, along with the system updates, new software installs, and filesystem checks.
That's because you think that sleep mode is off. Understandable, considering how much Apple tries to muddle the two in users' minds.
And that's why Symantec Endpoint Protection Console Service works with MacOSX clients? I bet real sysadmins don't scan linux mail or samba severs with clamav either.
Turn them off (not in sleep mode; really off) and send them a magic packet. Notice how they don't turn on? Apple only half implemented WOL. It works on XServes though, although you can't buy those anymore.
Even if lulzsec is CN, that still means they're dangerous in a DnD sense. Paladins, Rangers, and Town Guards would gladly see them dead or in chains. As Macross the Black stated to Pug, evil intent isn't necessary for something to be so dangerous it needs to be stopped for the good of organized society.
Wait, this is the senate... Isn't it supposed to be hard?
Naw, Weiner's a member of the House of Representatives, not the Senate.
A computer uses anywhere from 5W when "turned off". A few W more when STR, maybe 7W. It's from the standby power lead.
At $0.10/kWh, 7W for 18h/day, this works out to about $4.60/year/computer. So if you have 1000 computers, this gets you at least $4600 in savings if you have a policy of a real shutdown of a computer (ie. a switch that cuts power to computer)
And if you have 1000 iMac computers, you're wasting $50 or more a night as a sysadmin walks around the floor turning them on by hand for system updates, software installs, and virus scans, cursing dumb power policies, and Apple (for not having a real WOL).
Original intent be damned! Since anyone can see how it can be easily abused, it needs revision or needs never exist.
Tea Tardier
Doody face poo-poo head! Name calling of that sort has no place in informed and intelligent discourse.
The ridiculous notion spread around that people who are below, at, or barely above the poverty line should "pay their fair share" (what the fuck is "their fair share" anyways?) for things that go to the public good overall
Their fair share is something more than 0 (or more than negative as it is in some cases). The poverty line isn't at the same place it was decades ago. There are truly poor people, usually homeless, living day to day, being cared for by the people around them, and then there are people below the poverty line like I used to be, with my computer, car, air conditioned apartment, 3-squares a day, all without government assistance (unless you count taking EIC once). I didn't have internet access at home, but I had it at work. Yes, I was juggling money and often raced to the bank to beat a check, but I knew that even then, I lived like a king compared to people from ages past (or the folks in the shelters or third world countries today).
9) Tron - Maybe it's a little nostalgic, but it just had a big movie come out a few months ago. That's not nostalgia, man, that's new and cool.
And an even better computer game in 2004.
Cyclops' eyes shoot crimson rays of kinetic force. I believe you're thinking of Kryptonians.
And our wars will be fought by automated drones.
Pft. Our wars will be done via computer simulation, and people will feel duty-bound to walk into the recycling booths when the computers say they were "killed".
White House To Announce IT-Powered Smart Grid
I just invested in treadmill manufacturers.
I just invested in industrial sized cremation ovens, and steam generators. Tomorrow morning I tender my resignation from IT.
That said, there is an argument to be made that iAnything means Apple.
No there isn't. iPaq. iPlayer. iOS (not the new version), iMail, IHOP, iCloud...