Also, screaming bloody murder every time you get modded down is pretty childish.
But clearly, abusing mod points is not childish at all.
One of the biggest ironies here is that people posting anonymously are "anonymous cowards," yet people assigning mod points are equally anonymous, and they don't even have to justify or explain their decisions.
So basically it's all my fault and the people who are abusing their mod points (and thereby causing all this) are perfectly innocent and never did anything wrong.
Or maybe people shouldn't be going around modding people trolls and flamebaiters for no reason (and maybe Slashot's modding system shouldn't be so fucking retarded). See how you're blaming me instead of blaming the people abusing mod points?
What the fuck! I'm a troll because I don't agree with someone who's essentially defending bullying, or at least blaming its victims? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Jesus fucking Christ! I knew Slashdot was full of fucking retards, but this is just too much.
The problem is kids today are coddled until they're too weak to fend for themselves. They can't handle ridicule and therefore break down. A few go to extremes.
Great. Let's blame the victims instead of the aggressors. Do you apply this logic to rapes and murders as well?
Is this the best modern machinima can come up with? They made better stuff for Quake, for God's sake The Seal of Nehahra is still the best machinima movie I've seen (it's not even an independent project, as such -- it's based on the Nehahra modification which itself has many cutscenes, and continues the story). I just don't see a lot of ambition, scale or effort in much of the machinima of today (seems to be mostly just quickly produced comedy).
Islam taught people to learn to read, it gave them a need for science to prove and disprove faith, and it spawned a wealth of enlightenment and enrichment.
I have never suggested that the majority of Muslims are terrorists, but that does not stop them from being potential terrorists or simply supporting the Jihadist cause, or simply desiring Sharia law.
Why then have the vast majority of Islamic scholars condemned terrorism?
Taqqiya. They also have the habit of saying things like "Islam condodes the murder of innocent people" without mentioning that Islam's concept of "innocent people" differs from our own.
Why aren't the largest Muslim countries like Indonesia and India and Bangladesh attacking America?
There's Islamic terrorism in at least Indonesia and India. Hindus are infidels too (as are Buddhists in Thailand), Muslims aren't just out to get Americans.
Why is it when a Guatemalan man is arrested for domestic violence, he's a bad apple, or at worst, accused of reflecting on his culture, but if a Muslim was accused of the same, it's automagically his religion's fault? It's a sin in Islam to mistreat your wife, but people (not the religion) do it anyway. Are you completely blind to the double standard you've been espousing in this thread?
Domestic violence is a part of Islamic culture.
I never said Islam and Christianity were equal. However, they are similar, as an Abrahamic faith they have common origins and shared prophets and messages like monotheism in the same God.
They're not similiar. They're polar opposites.
No. There are some extremists, but the vast majority of Muslims don't desire that at all.
There's no evidence whatsoever to support this conclusion. It's always spouted by leftists, but it isn't based on anything. It's a dogma.
Critics say Bush, an evangelical Christian, is seeking to impose his will on the entire world, would that make Christianity evil? No, the overgeneralization is unfair and misleading, just as you're trying to do with Islam.
Regarding WW2/Holocaust: it was a Christian (Hitler) targetting the Jews for their religion. It was backed by the Catholic Church (why Rome was never bombed and the Churches all survived).
Did Hitler do it strictly based on religious reasons? No, I don't think he did. Therefore it does not matter that he was Christian. There's also the fact that what he did was decidedly un-Christian.
ou completely ignored the part about abortion bans, criminalization of homosexuality, et al.
Everyone knows about that. Why do I need to specifically validate them in here?
slam has NOT always had control and theocratic responsibility in the Middle East. Remember the Crusades? I'm pretty sure that was Christians attacking a bunch of people for not being their religion.
I'm pretty sure the Crusades were trigged by the fact that Muslims conquered the holy lands and attacked Europe itself. But that's just me.
The Middle East is now going through the same phase that Europe went through from 1000-1600 and that America went through from 1600-1700. It's their turn, and it'll pass.
This is a myth. There is no "phase." Islam is what it is. You're operating under the assumption that religions are somehow destined to become like modern Christianity, and that fundamentally everyone is just like your average white, Western Christian. This is completely false. There is no phase because Islam is doing what it's supposed to be doing. We may not approve of it, but they don't approve of our ways either (women's rights, freedom of speech etc.).
It's interesting that you throw over-generalizations around like that. Which Islamic society? Have you visited any? Lebanon has a thriving cosmopolitan scene, Egypt has led Arabic TV and culture, Jordan wants to be the IT capital of the middle east, Iranian cinema is world-renowned, Dubai shows the best and worst of unbridled capitalism, Malaysia has more advanced technology than most of America, and Nobel Prize winner Muhammad Yunis' Grameen Bank of Bangladesh revolutionized banking to the poor with microlending and new economic technique.
Really? Well, this changes everything. Now I can comfortably forget all the endless, repugnant human rights violations and moral failures that are embedded in Islamic culture. Iranian cinema is world-renowned, so it's okay that they sometimes execute underaged rape victims, and so forth. Lebanon's thriving cosmopolitan scene was surely a great relief to the Israelis who were subjected to rocket attacks from Hezbollah.
My God, it all makes sense now.
Come off it. Islamic societies perfected science, algebra, and astronomy while the Christian world was burning witches. They're not stuck in 600 AD, since they thrived until 1492, when the Spanish Inquisition happened, kicking the Muslims out and ending the Golden Age of Judaism (which took place under Muslim rule). The Islamic world was dealt a setback since colonialism, but you could say the same about Africa or South America, all of which are in a stage of recovery and growth today.
Any progress made in the Islamic world (during Islam, not before it) was in spite of Islam, not because of it. Curiously enough, people like you would probably quickly go on to say that Europe achieved Enlightenment in spite of Christianity. Of course you also had to throw in the obligatory "lol europeans only knew how to burn witches am i rite" comment. And let's not forget the old reliable dogma of colonialism which states that the entire world was just one big advanced culture before white men ruined everything. Let's be serious, here: Africa has always been a fucking failure and still is, and the failures of Islam have been self-inflicted (and let's not talk about the history of Islamic colonization which lasted far longer than European colonization, because that would be politically incorrect).
Sometimes it seems as if white Christians are the only sentient beings in the universe. All others are just lifeless puppets attached to our strings. This handily places all responsibility on us. There's barely anything in world history that isn't routinely blamed on us.
They are not a minority (and no, just because Christianity has a minority doesn't mean that Islam also has a minority - even though your silly Theory of Equality might suggest otherwise).
Did you know that 90% of the Arab world considers democracy a good thing? Only 89% of Americans said yes to the same survey.
Did you know that Santa Claus is real, and that you are being ridiculous by presenting exactly one percent as a meaningful difference?
Lord knows that there's no Islamic oppression going on in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt or even Iraq. No, nothing of the sort.
Islamic countries are under secular dictatorships. Secular.
I also heard that that the sun revolves around Earth, it's crazy.
Do you blame the religion? Impossible.
It's not impossible when it's been going on for hundreds of years, long before whitey got the idea to colonize other places.
Christianity also produces violent followers who demand their will upon others, have you shut your eyes since WWII? Holocausts, abortion bans, criminalization of homosexual acts, etc.
How is Christianity related to WW2 or the Holocaust, and what makes you think that Christianity is suddenly morally equal to Islam because Christianity also has bad apples (so to speak)? Well, the anwer is obvious, of course: Christianity must be morally equal to Islam. Everything must be equal in the universe.
What makes you shield Christianity and attack Islam?
Islam is a violent, totalitarian enemy of humanity that seeks to impose its will on the entire world. Christianity is not (and no, it does not matter what real or imagined transgressions Christianity commited 800 years ago).
Our culture is more than science, and Christianity obviously wasn't so bad since we didn't end up like Islamic societies which are still stuck in circa 600 AD, thanks to their unconditional rejection of rationality.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why people always bring up Christianity's past (with or without factual accuracy, not really relevant). What does it matter? How is it relevant? I have no idea.
nd has been vehemently and violently opposed to most of what we in "the West" hold today as basic values
The West is in large part built upon Christianity. But unfortunately, Christianity has been so ridiculously demonized that few people are aware of this, or don't want to be aware of it.
The Western world is Christian, but you don't see a lot of theocracies around, do you? Now, visit an Islamic country and observe the dramatic difference. Islam produces theocracies because it's in its nature (it also produces followers who violently demand that everyone must adhere to their rules and principles), and because it's a more comprehensive system than Christianity or Buddhism.
But of course you can't accept this, because everything has to be equal. All religions, philosophies, nations, cultures and opinions have to be equal.
You're oversimplifying it. Atheism's belief boils down to "there is no God." Islam is much, much more complicated. It's not only a religion, but a system governing politics, law and daily life.
Are you serious? You really think atheists follow every behavioral statistic and trend perfectly? They're not more or less predisposed to a single behavior or attitude? If that's the case, I'm not sure I can find small enough words to explain it to you.
Atheists aren't prone to any particular type of behavior, because atheism isn't an ideology, religion, culture or anything like that.
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But clearly, abusing mod points is not childish at all.
One of the biggest ironies here is that people posting anonymously are "anonymous cowards," yet people assigning mod points are equally anonymous, and they don't even have to justify or explain their decisions.
You are clearly a fanboy. They always respond with "you're a troll" on the official boards, if anyone dares to criticize NWN2.
This isn't meant to be a troll, but you'd be better off buying a pile of dog shit.
I get the most hits on PeerGuardian from seemingly Chinese sources. Not sure why.
I have never proposed the second option. Maybe you're just afraid of standing up for yourself.
Yes, clearly you should just stay passive and submissive when somebody attacks you. Did your parents teach you that?
So basically it's all my fault and the people who are abusing their mod points (and thereby causing all this) are perfectly innocent and never did anything wrong.
Get fucked.
Or maybe people shouldn't be going around modding people trolls and flamebaiters for no reason (and maybe Slashot's modding system shouldn't be so fucking retarded). See how you're blaming me instead of blaming the people abusing mod points?
What the fuck! I'm a troll because I don't agree with someone who's essentially defending bullying, or at least blaming its victims? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Jesus fucking Christ! I knew Slashdot was full of fucking retards, but this is just too much.
Great. Let's blame the victims instead of the aggressors. Do you apply this logic to rapes and murders as well?
Is this the best modern machinima can come up with? They made better stuff for Quake, for God's sake The Seal of Nehahra is still the best machinima movie I've seen (it's not even an independent project, as such -- it's based on the Nehahra modification which itself has many cutscenes, and continues the story). I just don't see a lot of ambition, scale or effort in much of the machinima of today (seems to be mostly just quickly produced comedy).
I'm speechless.
Taqqiya. They also have the habit of saying things like "Islam condodes the murder of innocent people" without mentioning that Islam's concept of "innocent people" differs from our own.
There's Islamic terrorism in at least Indonesia and India. Hindus are infidels too (as are Buddhists in Thailand), Muslims aren't just out to get Americans.
Domestic violence is a part of Islamic culture.
They're not similiar. They're polar opposites.
There's no evidence whatsoever to support this conclusion. It's always spouted by leftists, but it isn't based on anything. It's a dogma.
Yeah, one guy is totally equal to millions.
Did Hitler do it strictly based on religious reasons? No, I don't think he did. Therefore it does not matter that he was Christian. There's also the fact that what he did was decidedly un-Christian.
Everyone knows about that. Why do I need to specifically validate them in here?
I'm pretty sure the Crusades were trigged by the fact that Muslims conquered the holy lands and attacked Europe itself. But that's just me.
This is a myth. There is no "phase." Islam is what it is. You're operating under the assumption that religions are somehow destined to become like modern Christianity, and that fundamentally everyone is just like your average white, Western Christian. This is completely false. There is no phase because Islam is doing what it's supposed to be doing. We may not approve of it, but they don't approve of our ways either (women's rights, freedom of speech etc.).
Really? Well, this changes everything. Now I can comfortably forget all the endless, repugnant human rights violations and moral failures that are embedded in Islamic culture. Iranian cinema is world-renowned, so it's okay that they sometimes execute underaged rape victims, and so forth. Lebanon's thriving cosmopolitan scene was surely a great relief to the Israelis who were subjected to rocket attacks from Hezbollah.
My God, it all makes sense now.
Any progress made in the Islamic world (during Islam, not before it) was in spite of Islam, not because of it. Curiously enough, people like you would probably quickly go on to say that Europe achieved Enlightenment in spite of Christianity. Of course you also had to throw in the obligatory "lol europeans only knew how to burn witches am i rite" comment. And let's not forget the old reliable dogma of colonialism which states that the entire world was just one big advanced culture before white men ruined everything. Let's be serious, here: Africa has always been a fucking failure and still is, and the failures of Islam have been self-inflicted (and let's not talk about the history of Islamic colonization which lasted far longer than European colonization, because that would be politically incorrect).
Sometimes it seems as if white Christians are the only sentient beings in the universe. All others are just lifeless puppets attached to our strings. This handily places all responsibility on us. There's barely anything in world history that isn't routinely blamed on us.
Did you know that Santa Claus is real, and that you are being ridiculous by presenting exactly one percent as a meaningful difference?
Lord knows that there's no Islamic oppression going on in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt or even Iraq. No, nothing of the sort.
I also heard that that the sun revolves around Earth, it's crazy.
It's not impossible when it's been going on for hundreds of years, long before whitey got the idea to colonize other places.
How is Christianity related to WW2 or the Holocaust, and what makes you think that Christianity is suddenly morally equal to Islam because Christianity also has bad apples (so to speak)? Well, the anwer is obvious, of course: Christianity must be morally equal to Islam. Everything must be equal in the universe.
Islam is a violent, totalitarian enemy of humanity that seeks to impose its will on the entire world. Christianity is not (and no, it does not matter what real or imagined transgressions Christianity commited 800 years ago).
Yeah, and some eat cupcakes while others own an Xbox 360. I think you missed the point.
Our culture is more than science, and Christianity obviously wasn't so bad since we didn't end up like Islamic societies which are still stuck in circa 600 AD, thanks to their unconditional rejection of rationality.
The West is in large part built upon Christianity. But unfortunately, Christianity has been so ridiculously demonized that few people are aware of this, or don't want to be aware of it.
Christianity != Islam, and the Christian extremists you're referring to are a minority.
The Western world is Christian, but you don't see a lot of theocracies around, do you? Now, visit an Islamic country and observe the dramatic difference. Islam produces theocracies because it's in its nature (it also produces followers who violently demand that everyone must adhere to their rules and principles), and because it's a more comprehensive system than Christianity or Buddhism.
But of course you can't accept this, because everything has to be equal. All religions, philosophies, nations, cultures and opinions have to be equal.
You're oversimplifying it. Atheism's belief boils down to "there is no God." Islam is much, much more complicated. It's not only a religion, but a system governing politics, law and daily life.
Atheists aren't prone to any particular type of behavior, because atheism isn't an ideology, religion, culture or anything like that.