"It doesn't sound like you're trying to understand. From what I can tell (2 mins on google), Weatherbug modified their program and it is no longer spyware."
OH, I just thought of the first thing that came to my head that I knew had spyware. Had being the key word it seems. I was actually referring to a few people I knew back when it had spyware, just as an example. I still know these people and they still have the same attitude, so my point still stands if my example does not.
It is obvious to any gamer that this guy, David Wong, has absolutely no concept of video gaming and the market thereof. Judging from this article I doubt he is even a gamer at all. He even admits he, "games for the novelty." I don't think a good portion of us do. To him, games are just as good as their graphics, which is not the reason your average gamer plays them. Only morons like this guy. Not only is he a casual wannabe gamer he has no right to comment and critisize an industry he cares and knows nothing of.
The video crash of 1983 was NOT caused by everyone being suddenly bored of video games. It had everything to do with an oversaturated market of unliscenced games. That's one reason Nintendo's system was such a breakthrough. Because its marketing system forced quality control on the publishers. This point along renders his entire article a giant pile of jibberish.
BTW, what is this article doing on slashdot? I'm new here but I had expected higher quality articles rather than this two bit dribble that isn't fit to wipe my ass with.
"I can only conclude that people at PC World ain't got a clue about PC's. Since when can.avi.mp3 etc etc contain virusses or malware?"
You can stick a virus in a jpeg, so I don't see why you couldn't stick one in an avi, etc. Of course, I'm not the worlds leading virus expert...
Though I do agree with the rest of your post. I was wondering why they were calling it a "vigilante" virus at all. I thought I was going a little crazy untill I read my thoughts here in the posts.
The general public have demonstrated time and time again that they really don't care about security. They'll put up with their computer slowing down and crashing, they'll put up with random popup ads, they'll put up with their computer being used to spam people...
That is so true. I can't count the amount of people I've met that have weatherbug or whatever on their computer and I explain to them that it has spyware, then I remove it and the spyware. Then a day or so later, they're like, "WTF? You deleted weatherbug" and I find they've reinstalled it. People just don't care, and I don't expect to ever understand why.
I am of the opinion people should find their own way. That's one thing that I like about OSS is that it assumes you know what you want out of an application; rather than being told what you want. The person who needs a "guided tour" should use windows.
If you need your hand held when installing and first using Linux there are plenty of newbie guides. I was once a newb not too long ago, I read some newb guides and a linux book or two. Now maybe all that didn't turn me into a Linux genius, but I did learn alot along the way and am still learning. And that, at least to me, is the point of Linux. Sure, there is a learning curve, but the very thing that makes Linux great, its configurability and versatility, is the very thing that makes it complex to a new user.
I see many people install Linux for the wrong reasons. They install it because, "w1nd0wz iz teh sUxx0rz!!11" not because they want to use something different. These are the people who need the "guided tour," these are the people that should just be content with Windows.
"ROTFL! In other words: 'Oh shit! How can I cover my ass here?'"
I hate the term "moot," I think it sounds stupid and I have never used it. Mute and moot mean two different things. I did not mean his point was "Subject to debate; arguable." It wasn't even in the same context. Please go back under the bridge where you belong. Thank you.
"Grammar national socialists on Slashdot tend to hate punctuation-free posts even more than posts that use hackish or British quoting."
Well, even my British friends say putting the period outside the quotations is wrong. So, I don't see how this debate even started. In fact, other than wikipedia, I could not find another source that says to put the period outside the quote. Since wikipedia is done by anyone who feels like it, I tend to trust my friends over some silly website. If I did, I would believe the holocaust never happened or mickey overdosed on pop rocks and coca cola or the middle finger originated from the British flipping the bird to the French saying, "we can still pluck yew," or whatever.
"So in other words your other comment [slashdot.org] is mute or moot or both because Slashdot users do a lot of 'clarifying something in code.'"
Reread my post, this time more carefully, as that was my point of my post, is that we need to get rid of the grammar nazis. I guess people like to have their posts spell checked with anal meticulousness.
"Eric Raymond offers the example of the difference between "Type 'dd.'" and "Type 'dd.'" in a tutorial about the vi text editor."
Actually, it would be far more precise to use a code tag or similar device in that instance, or even ignore punctuation altogether. When clarifying something in code, that becomes more important than trivial issues such as correct grammar.
We use American English on the internet because we invented it. And since we invented it, we get to say what kind of English we use.
And I did mean, "mute." As in, silenced, muffled, etc.
Yes, but on the internet we use the American English rules, so your point is mute. Even so, I know plenty of Brits and they all use the quotes outside the period, further muting your point. In the end, I really could care less. My point was about anally retentive people who correct peoples spelling when their post is riddled with incorrect grammar. And his post had more grammar errors than just the quotes inside the period, muting your point completely.
"That should be "other than".
I think this would be a good move for Sony. I would definitely reconsider purchasing the console if I could run linux on it and I think many other people would reconsider too. $599 isn't too bad for a console+linux PC."
That should be, "console andLinux PC." Also, you did not capitalise "Linux" both times you said it. You used incorrect grammar in your first line. It should have read:
That should be, "other than."
Notice the placement of the comma and the period. Nothing drives me more insane than sticklers who correct others grammar then make three times the amount of errors in their post.
Anyway, I don't care if you can use Linux on a PS3, the PS3 is just going to be a overpriced PS2 with nothing to offer but better graphics. I think I'll pass.
I think conservatives don't like it because it legitimizes porn. And anything short of total and complete deletion of anything sinful from the internet isn't within their agenda.
I think pron people don't want it because it makes it too easy to filter. No longer could they utilise spam or other means to promote their websites because none would get through a *.xxx filter.
"Good marketing can't get you that kind of market share."
It can and it did. Period.
Not to mention the plain obvious fact that you overlooked. The fact that the iPod has had nearly zero competition. All the competition it did have was easily muted by the juggernaut that was iPods marketing hype. Stores didn't and don't promote anything but the iPod, nor did/do they give any other mp3 player its own entire section in their store. Everywhere you go(and went) you see adds for the iPod, there are(and weren't) any noticeable adds for other players. Sure, there's Rio and Creative, but you don't see those in movies, people don't talk about those on TV talk shows. See, the iPod got the product placement, the magazine editorial hype, etc, etc, ad nauseum that its competition did not get.
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OH, I just thought of the first thing that came to my head that I knew had spyware. Had being the key word it seems. I was actually referring to a few people I knew back when it had spyware, just as an example. I still know these people and they still have the same attitude, so my point still stands if my example does not.
It is obvious to any gamer that this guy, David Wong, has absolutely no concept of video gaming and the market thereof. Judging from this article I doubt he is even a gamer at all. He even admits he, "games for the novelty." I don't think a good portion of us do. To him, games are just as good as their graphics, which is not the reason your average gamer plays them. Only morons like this guy. Not only is he a casual wannabe gamer he has no right to comment and critisize an industry he cares and knows nothing of.
The video crash of 1983 was NOT caused by everyone being suddenly bored of video games. It had everything to do with an oversaturated market of unliscenced games. That's one reason Nintendo's system was such a breakthrough. Because its marketing system forced quality control on the publishers. This point along renders his entire article a giant pile of jibberish.
BTW, what is this article doing on slashdot? I'm new here but I had expected higher quality articles rather than this two bit dribble that isn't fit to wipe my ass with.
"I can only conclude that people at PC World ain't got a clue about PC's. Since when can .avi .mp3 etc etc contain virusses or malware?"
You can stick a virus in a jpeg, so I don't see why you couldn't stick one in an avi, etc. Of course, I'm not the worlds leading virus expert...
Though I do agree with the rest of your post. I was wondering why they were calling it a "vigilante" virus at all. I thought I was going a little crazy untill I read my thoughts here in the posts.
That is so true. I can't count the amount of people I've met that have weatherbug or whatever on their computer and I explain to them that it has spyware, then I remove it and the spyware. Then a day or so later, they're like, "WTF? You deleted weatherbug" and I find they've reinstalled it. People just don't care, and I don't expect to ever understand why.
I am of the opinion people should find their own way. That's one thing that I like about OSS is that it assumes you know what you want out of an application; rather than being told what you want. The person who needs a "guided tour" should use windows.
If you need your hand held when installing and first using Linux there are plenty of newbie guides. I was once a newb not too long ago, I read some newb guides and a linux book or two. Now maybe all that didn't turn me into a Linux genius, but I did learn alot along the way and am still learning. And that, at least to me, is the point of Linux. Sure, there is a learning curve, but the very thing that makes Linux great, its configurability and versatility, is the very thing that makes it complex to a new user.
I see many people install Linux for the wrong reasons. They install it because, "w1nd0wz iz teh sUxx0rz!!11" not because they want to use something different. These are the people who need the "guided tour," these are the people that should just be content with Windows.
I hate the term "moot," I think it sounds stupid and I have never used it. Mute and moot mean two different things. I did not mean his point was "Subject to debate; arguable." It wasn't even in the same context. Please go back under the bridge where you belong. Thank you.
"Grammar national socialists on Slashdot tend to hate punctuation-free posts even more than posts that use hackish or British quoting."Well, even my British friends say putting the period outside the quotations is wrong. So, I don't see how this debate even started. In fact, other than wikipedia, I could not find another source that says to put the period outside the quote. Since wikipedia is done by anyone who feels like it, I tend to trust my friends over some silly website. If I did, I would believe the holocaust never happened or mickey overdosed on pop rocks and coca cola or the middle finger originated from the British flipping the bird to the French saying, "we can still pluck yew," or whatever.
"So in other words your other comment [slashdot.org] is mute or moot or both because Slashdot users do a lot of 'clarifying something in code.'"Reread my post, this time more carefully, as that was my point of my post, is that we need to get rid of the grammar nazis. I guess people like to have their posts spell checked with anal meticulousness.
This depends on the distribution. I remember installing firefox on slackware, all it took was:
installpkg firefox-1.5.0.3.tgz
or:
unzipping then running install-firefox or whatever which is pretty much the same thing you would do in windows.
Neither of which would be beyond my mothers comprehension of computers. So maybe you just need a good distribution of either linux or firefox.
"Eric Raymond offers the example of the difference between "Type 'dd.'" and "Type 'dd.'" in a tutorial about the vi text editor."
Actually, it would be far more precise to use a code tag or similar device in that instance, or even ignore punctuation altogether. When clarifying something in code, that becomes more important than trivial issues such as correct grammar.
We use American English on the internet because we invented it. And since we invented it, we get to say what kind of English we use.
And I did mean, "mute." As in, silenced, muffled, etc.
Yes, but on the internet we use the American English rules, so your point is mute. Even so, I know plenty of Brits and they all use the quotes outside the period, further muting your point. In the end, I really could care less. My point was about anally retentive people who correct peoples spelling when their post is riddled with incorrect grammar. And his post had more grammar errors than just the quotes inside the period, muting your point completely.
"That should be "other than". I think this would be a good move for Sony. I would definitely reconsider purchasing the console if I could run linux on it and I think many other people would reconsider too. $599 isn't too bad for a console+linux PC." That should be, "console and Linux PC." Also, you did not capitalise "Linux" both times you said it. You used incorrect grammar in your first line. It should have read: That should be, "other than." Notice the placement of the comma and the period. Nothing drives me more insane than sticklers who correct others grammar then make three times the amount of errors in their post. Anyway, I don't care if you can use Linux on a PS3, the PS3 is just going to be a overpriced PS2 with nothing to offer but better graphics. I think I'll pass.
I think conservatives don't like it because it legitimizes porn. And anything short of total and complete deletion of anything sinful from the internet isn't within their agenda.
I think pron people don't want it because it makes it too easy to filter. No longer could they utilise spam or other means to promote their websites because none would get through a *.xxx filter.
"Good marketing can't get you that kind of market share."
It can and it did. Period.
Not to mention the plain obvious fact that you overlooked. The fact that the iPod has had nearly zero competition. All the competition it did have was easily muted by the juggernaut that was iPods marketing hype. Stores didn't and don't promote anything but the iPod, nor did/do they give any other mp3 player its own entire section in their store. Everywhere you go(and went) you see adds for the iPod, there are(and weren't) any noticeable adds for other players. Sure, there's Rio and Creative, but you don't see those in movies, people don't talk about those on TV talk shows. See, the iPod got the product placement, the magazine editorial hype, etc, etc, ad nauseum that its competition did not get.