"The one I like happens to be Windows. I'm used to the way it works, it enables my productivity while at the computer. I've yet to find a desktop environment for Linux that does the same."
what is the difference between a linux and windows and OSX desktop? nothing, point your mouse and click on the app, works on all of them (maybe win 8 is a change). only the app is different (except Libreoffice etc)
because linux is a kernel, any desktop system that uses linux as its base OS is by definition a "linux desktop"
"KDE/Gnome don't work with each other without both being installed.
bollox, you only need some libraries from either system not fully installed desktops if you want to use a gnome app on KDE (can you do that with OSX and Windows without installing a virtual machine?).
"you need to install everyone's flavor-of-the-week libraries and frameworks, so you end up with a much more bloated mess"
again bollox
"so.... you simply developed the application for OS X if you needed UNIX support or Windows if it's not important." so simply develop the app for KDE or Gnome if its too complicated a paradigm for you.
so fucking what? having percentage points of a market is just a pissing contest. Apple had a low percentage of the desktop market for years and they didn't really care about it because they were making more than enough money and had a good bank balance.
"startup delay. IE shows the UI and lets you start typing in the location bar but shortly after loads startup pages over top of what you may have just typed."
Thats the standard MS procedure, the desktop after login reacts just the same. It fools the sheep into thinking its quick
By the time it takes to get a nucleur system on line, renewables have lept forward in efficiency. I'm not against nucleur either but you seem to be implying its a waste of time with solar etc until its perfect, but how does it get better unless its made, used and refined? you can't keep it in the shed until its perfected otherwise it'll stay in the shed.
" Expecting the populace of the north central and northeast US to climb up on the roofs of their houses to sweep off solar panels is nuts." no, i'm sure there are ways to automate that if needed, cars have wipers (mine automatically works when its wet), why not the same for panels (as an example). but if its not practical for solar/wind your area then don't do it, simple.
"Sure, being able to remove YOURSELF from the grid might be a good move. FOR YOU. Lots and lots of people simply don't have that sort of luxury" - no, unfortunately its not a luxury i can buy but its an aspiration for me and a target ideal for all.
"You're thinking like a guy who installs single family septic systems. Tack on a million more people? Sure! Just scale the single family system up, right?" - not sure what you mean here but if every one has their own septic tank (where possible) and that can also be used to generate power. but that again is a choice for them. Most waste disposal is based on hundred year old ideas - have a read here for ideas in the pipeline http://cleantechnica.com/?s=to...
I prefer spreading the risk of power generation not all the eggs in one basket
"If you do the same but have a grid hookup, you should expect to pay some fixed costs related to your share of the grid infrastructure. If you flow excess power back into the grid you may have other rules to comply with for safety if nothing else."
i don't see why. The grid would have had to buy coal/gas to produce that power so they are just paying someone else for it. The infrastructure is already there and been paid for because if you don't have storage you have to use the grid after dark, all the home owner needs to do is perhaps install a regulated meter that goes backwards.
for some people perhaps, but being able to get off the grid and be self-sufficient is a great idea. its early days for renewable power. mega fossil fueled power stations are a single point of failure that can cause misery to vast areas in one disaster.
Everyone supports self reliance and self responsibility and being off the main grid (but having it as a back up) is a great step in the right direction, just have to collect all rain water as well (see great lakes problem happening now with undrinkable water)
they could offer to buy in the solar generated power at a rate that is lower than if they had to buy coal or gas to generate it in the first place. they win as well then, less stocks of coal, gas etc
you are getting bent out of shape over nothing. you are expecting utopia in a day e.g. if everyone had solar on their houses and offices etc, you are not so reliant on huge generating stations. those generation stations could then become partly huge energy storage stations that are charged by all the excess solar power fed to it until personal storage is in place. You'd then not be in the situation california found itself in 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...
i would find it great to remove myself from the grid and only be reliant on the grid if my systems went off line. The more solar etc, the less fossil fuel burnt.
"Until the systems are actually, you know, INVENTED, TESTED and INSTALLED, no, the problem is NOT solved."
duh, yeah. you are being totally unrealistic. No-one but you seems to be saying it will be 100% perfect or efficient on the first iteration of the technology. Gas, coal, hydro and nucleur power did not work as well as they do now when first put into use.
Yes, no point in holding your breath because you'll probably be dead by the time your hopeful figure can be reached. Once the storage question has been solved, and other technology generation systems like tidal power add to the pot (plus any new future and yet unknown systems), things will take time. Its still relatively early days in the new power generation systems, e.g. PVs are getting more efficient all the time
only until efficient power storage is solved. all those methods will generate more power than needed at certain times of the day so if the excess is stored, problem solved.
Insulation of the roof would save you money heating and cooling bills, we didn;t realise just how much until we insulated properly. It made the house so much more comfortable
you can get a block of polystyrene and cover the head of the fork to protect it.
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can you visualise KDE 1.0 or 2.0 (or 3.0 ?) working on a tablet?
i'd fucking hope it was a customer if i was really working in a coffee shop
"The one I like happens to be Windows. I'm used to the way it works, it enables my productivity while at the computer. I've yet to find a desktop environment for Linux that does the same."
what is the difference between a linux and windows and OSX desktop? nothing, point your mouse and click on the app, works on all of them (maybe win 8 is a change). only the app is different (except Libreoffice etc)
" there never will be a Linux desktop."
.... you simply developed the application for OS X if you needed UNIX support or Windows if it's not important." so simply develop the app for KDE or Gnome if its too complicated a paradigm for you.
because linux is a kernel, any desktop system that uses linux as its base OS is by definition a "linux desktop"
"KDE/Gnome don't work with each other without both being installed.
bollox, you only need some libraries from either system not fully installed desktops if you want to use a gnome app on KDE (can you do that with OSX and Windows without installing a virtual machine?).
"you need to install everyone's flavor-of-the-week libraries and frameworks, so you end up with a much more bloated mess"
again bollox
"so
seems like most proprietary OS supporters are thieves, windows users steal software all the time. looks like only open source supporters are ethical
" Many Linux distros have gone from being over configurable a few years ago to bring even more tightly locked down than Windows or MacOS"
Not the ones using KDE as the desktop
it looks like the first web client i'd be happy to use and i hate web based interfaces as a primary app.
chickens can't fly that high
so fucking what? having percentage points of a market is just a pissing contest. Apple had a low percentage of the desktop market for years and they didn't really care about it because they were making more than enough money and had a good bank balance.
you should read the article you posted again (and again) until you understand it fully. you appear to be a shill against blackberry
because.... BS
how many business will be running Autocad and photoshop? fucking old and still stupid arguement
"startup delay. IE shows the UI and lets you start typing in the location bar but shortly after loads startup pages over top of what you may have just typed."
Thats the standard MS procedure, the desktop after login reacts just the same. It fools the sheep into thinking its quick
try them as a business communication tool, email beats them hands down
By the time it takes to get a nucleur system on line, renewables have lept forward in efficiency. I'm not against nucleur either but you seem to be implying its a waste of time with solar etc until its perfect, but how does it get better unless its made, used and refined? you can't keep it in the shed until its perfected otherwise it'll stay in the shed.
" Expecting the populace of the north central and northeast US to climb up on the roofs of their houses to sweep off solar panels is nuts." no, i'm sure there are ways to automate that if needed, cars have wipers (mine automatically works when its wet), why not the same for panels (as an example). but if its not practical for solar/wind your area then don't do it, simple.
"Sure, being able to remove YOURSELF from the grid might be a good move. FOR YOU. Lots and lots of people simply don't have that sort of luxury" - no, unfortunately its not a luxury i can buy but its an aspiration for me and a target ideal for all.
"You're thinking like a guy who installs single family septic systems. Tack on a million more people? Sure! Just scale the single family system up, right?" - not sure what you mean here but if every one has their own septic tank (where possible) and that can also be used to generate power. but that again is a choice for them. Most waste disposal is based on hundred year old ideas - have a read here for ideas in the pipeline http://cleantechnica.com/?s=to...
I prefer spreading the risk of power generation not all the eggs in one basket
"If you do the same but have a grid hookup, you should expect to pay some fixed costs related to your share of the grid infrastructure. If you flow excess power back into the grid you may have other rules to comply with for safety if nothing else."
i don't see why. The grid would have had to buy coal/gas to produce that power so they are just paying someone else for it. The infrastructure is already there and been paid for because if you don't have storage you have to use the grid after dark, all the home owner needs to do is perhaps install a regulated meter that goes backwards.
for some people perhaps, but being able to get off the grid and be self-sufficient is a great idea. its early days for renewable power. mega fossil fueled power stations are a single point of failure that can cause misery to vast areas in one disaster.
Everyone supports self reliance and self responsibility and being off the main grid (but having it as a back up) is a great step in the right direction, just have to collect all rain water as well (see great lakes problem happening now with undrinkable water)
they could offer to buy in the solar generated power at a rate that is lower than if they had to buy coal or gas to generate it in the first place. they win as well then, less stocks of coal, gas etc
you are getting bent out of shape over nothing. you are expecting utopia in a day e.g. if everyone had solar on their houses and offices etc, you are not so reliant on huge generating stations. those generation stations could then become partly huge energy storage stations that are charged by all the excess solar power fed to it until personal storage is in place. You'd then not be in the situation california found itself in 2000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...
i would find it great to remove myself from the grid and only be reliant on the grid if my systems went off line. The more solar etc, the less fossil fuel burnt.
"Until the systems are actually, you know, INVENTED, TESTED and INSTALLED, no, the problem is NOT solved."
duh, yeah. you are being totally unrealistic. No-one but you seems to be saying it will be 100% perfect or efficient on the first iteration of the technology. Gas, coal, hydro and nucleur power did not work as well as they do now when first put into use.
Yes, no point in holding your breath because you'll probably be dead by the time your hopeful figure can be reached. Once the storage question has been solved, and other technology generation systems like tidal power add to the pot (plus any new future and yet unknown systems), things will take time. Its still relatively early days in the new power generation systems, e.g. PVs are getting more efficient all the time
Here are a few links that might help..
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/...
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/...
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/...
http://cleantechnica.com/categ...
only until efficient power storage is solved. all those methods will generate more power than needed at certain times of the day so if the excess is stored, problem solved.
not yet, but when the majority of power is produced by those windmills and solar they will be. its still in the chicken and egg phase
Insulation of the roof would save you money heating and cooling bills, we didn;t realise just how much until we insulated properly. It made the house so much more comfortable
you can get a block of polystyrene and cover the head of the fork to protect it.