there are companies out there doing the recycling plus they can be re-purposed as home batteries because a working battery not usable in a car is still powerful enough for a home.
https://insideevs.com/tesla-le... - read this article for an update... in case you don't, a quote "it appears that most users are retaining over 90% of their vehicles’ original range, even after the odometer rolls well into the 6 digits."
this might help https://insideevs.com/tesla-le... quote form the article "it appears that most users are retaining over 90% of their vehicles’ original range, even after the odometer rolls well into the 6 digits."
"the cost of regularly replacing the batteries as they expire" - how often do you think they "expire"?
"but I am against the idea of so readily selling them as less-polluting and more-energy-efficient than the alternative," why? they are.
"widespread use all over the world is trains fed from overhead wires." - thats going to change - battery powered train being developed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?... "The exact reason for that is because that design avoids completely the need for huge, expensive, consumable battery packs." - more like the technology wasn't ready when they started to build the rail infrastructure - see previous point
I would think if you can afford a Tesla, you could afford some sort of rapid charging system. Most people would probably plug in every night so they don't have to charge from zero. A lot of the questions you raised about the grid, power generation etc have been answered a multitude of times, try a site like cleantechnica for more up to date info.
It can be re-purposed as house battery storage as when its no longer strong enough to push a car along, its still plenty strong enough for home use. Or it will be recycled or i'd hope it can be part exchanged for a new one.
You will have to plan your stops accordingly, i sometimes do that for service stations on the motorways. I don't wait until the yellow empty light comes on, my bladder is also a good indicator when to stop.
that, according to the report, is down to manufacturing. Remember its taken 100 years or so for ICE to become almost totally reliable. Where has anyone said EVs are maintenance free, did you mean less maintenance?
That will change once it gets closer to the tipping point. By then with GPS and new monitoring tech etc, they will probably charge for actual use of the road. With all teh data an EV produces, they'll know at every public charge point how far they have driven and that can be charged for at the same time. They just need to wait until the EV revolution is mainstream
I guess you'll also say that the fossil fuel industry has never ever received a penny in subsidy over the 100 or so years and companies like GM haven't ever received bale outs paid for by tax payers either or maybe that is where your gas tax goes.....
"but rather to provide fast response to prevent overloads and voltage/frequency support when there is a sudden event on the system" - this might become a problem of the past if power storage is distributed when more and more properties have battery storage (and EV) and are connected to a local microgrid
They could put solar on every roof (where its possible) and attach a battery to it, they can then all be linked locally into a microgrid and when all microgrids are linked together across the country into the grid itself, they can then become the "grid" storage with every single battery (no matter how its charged) and EV battery connected to it as the storage solution.
Who pays for the coal or gas at the moment - thats an ongoing cost along with its ongoing mining, transportataion and pollution. Battery is a one off cost initially and if it needs replacing/upgrading in the future and it can respond in seconds unlike fossil power.
have you not heard of battery storage attached to solar and wind energy production that the plant operator can control? It can feed the grid quicker than any plant that needs powering up to to cover peaks.
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Petrol cars simply don't work if you use your car to drive somewhere without a service station and you run out. It's that simple.
there are companies out there doing the recycling plus they can be re-purposed as home batteries because a working battery not usable in a car is still powerful enough for a home.
https://insideevs.com/tesla-le... - read this article for an update... in case you don't, a quote "it appears that most users are retaining over 90% of their vehicles’ original range, even after the odometer rolls well into the 6 digits."
this might help https://insideevs.com/tesla-le...
quote form the article "it appears that most users are retaining over 90% of their vehicles’ original range, even after the odometer rolls well into the 6 digits."
"the cost of regularly replacing the batteries as they expire" - how often do you think they "expire"?
"but I am against the idea of so readily selling them as less-polluting and more-energy-efficient than the alternative," why? they are.
"widespread use all over the world is trains fed from overhead wires." - thats going to change - battery powered train being developed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
"The exact reason for that is because that design avoids completely the need for huge, expensive, consumable battery packs." - more like the technology wasn't ready when they started to build the rail infrastructure - see previous point
I would think if you can afford a Tesla, you could afford some sort of rapid charging system. Most people would probably plug in every night so they don't have to charge from zero. A lot of the questions you raised about the grid, power generation etc have been answered a multitude of times, try a site like cleantechnica for more up to date info.
It can be re-purposed as house battery storage as when its no longer strong enough to push a car along, its still plenty strong enough for home use. Or it will be recycled or i'd hope it can be part exchanged for a new one.
"I'm kinda surprised those people don't own a semi with the way they go on." - maybe they have one in their pants when they smell the exhaust fumes
"Is it a scam?" - Depends, do you count insurance as a scam.
Does it? Whats the price going to be of a battery in 10 years time as its dropping in price every year?
I think you posted this reply on the wrong site.
You will have to plan your stops accordingly, i sometimes do that for service stations on the motorways. I don't wait until the yellow empty light comes on, my bladder is also a good indicator when to stop.
that, according to the report, is down to manufacturing. Remember its taken 100 years or so for ICE to become almost totally reliable. Where has anyone said EVs are maintenance free, did you mean less maintenance?
That will change once it gets closer to the tipping point. By then with GPS and new monitoring tech etc, they will probably charge for actual use of the road. With all teh data an EV produces, they'll know at every public charge point how far they have driven and that can be charged for at the same time. They just need to wait until the EV revolution is mainstream
I guess you'll also say that the fossil fuel industry has never ever received a penny in subsidy over the 100 or so years and companies like GM haven't ever received bale outs paid for by tax payers either or maybe that is where your gas tax goes.....
Some companies are making a bold claims with new battery tech/charging
https://electrek.co/2017/11/14...
https://www.engadget.com/2017/...
"but rather to provide fast response to prevent overloads and voltage/frequency support when there is a sudden event on the system" - this might become a problem of the past if power storage is distributed when more and more properties have battery storage (and EV) and are connected to a local microgrid
They could put solar on every roof (where its possible) and attach a battery to it, they can then all be linked locally into a microgrid and when all microgrids are linked together across the country into the grid itself, they can then become the "grid" storage with every single battery (no matter how its charged) and EV battery connected to it as the storage solution.
Just how big is your bladder?
You only need a wall to attach a charger, a garage is not compulsory unless you have some legal requirement.
Top Gear is not a show for facts - its entertainment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
He's aiming for the Darwin Award of 2017
The UK grid is investing in more and more batteries to cater for storage of wind/solar power to help even out the usage.
Who pays for the coal or gas at the moment - thats an ongoing cost along with its ongoing mining, transportataion and pollution. Battery is a one off cost initially and if it needs replacing/upgrading in the future and it can respond in seconds unlike fossil power.
have you not heard of battery storage attached to solar and wind energy production that the plant operator can control? It can feed the grid quicker than any plant that needs powering up to to cover peaks.