"Let's turn it around - suppose a gay person owned a custom T-shirt shop. Could they refuse to print up 100 T-shirts with anti-gay slogans on them?" - thats not a "turn around", its an apple and oranges example. If the gay cake was to say "up yours christian biggots," then you'd have a comparable analogy.
"Why do people like you hate people in Indiana and Arkansas?Do you hate just Christians? Or is it just Jews and Christians? Or people of all faiths? " - i doubt it, people just hate small minded bigots of any or no faith
unfortunately most of the detractors of something new to market expect it to be at 100% usage/coverage and/or working 100% perfectly immediately as they've got nothing else of substance to complain about
" It _basically_ instructs the courts to take into consideration sincerely-held religious convictions in discrimination cases " - and that is what is so wrong about this bill. there is already an outlet in law for the sincerely bigotted due to religious belief, its called "diminished responsibility" or a plea of insanity
"This is about establishing guidelines for government to avoid reflexively punishing religious individuals over their scruples of conscience." yes, its all about allowing discrimination because you are religious. by protecting the bigots over their misguided "scruples of conscience", you are creating a slippery slope to re-allowing the religious to discriminate on color over their misguided "scruples of conscience" as well.
"Because it's not about freedom, civil rights, or some crusade to make our country a better place. It's about them feeling accepted. While some religious activists are level headed, others would stomp on the Constitution itself if it would help them accomplish that goal of being accepted." fixed that for you
"Refuse to service whoever you want for whatever reason you want, it's your right and should remain your right whether you run a business or not." so if every business in that town did the same for the same reason the person discriminated against would have to leave the town ?
are you trolling? Adolf Hitler was a devout catholic and being a good catholic he hated the Jews as had been the practice for quite a few hundred years previously as they supposedly killed jesus. All nazi soldiers had "god is with us" on their uniforms
" they wouldn't obey a book blindly or believe in things that have absolutely no basis in reality" they generally don't obey the book blindly, they obey the bits that suit their biggotted ideas, simple example - how many christians still eat pork, prawns etc when their book says not to..., they no longer throw rocks at people for working on a sunday etc
"I've seen groups of gay supporters yell slurs and spit at people who's only crime was having a bible in their hands" - can't blame them for that, its a book of hatred, hence this whole discussion......
"Someone who is Christian can't make eating pork a condition of citizenship." they should also obey this edict as its in their bible as well but they conveniently ignore it but then they do selectively believe bits that conveniently fit their bigotary
"I'm personally intolerant of homosexuality. I don't dislike the individual homosexuals, but I will NEVER affirm their way of life -- and such will never be required of me." i think you'll find you'll find no-one is expecting you to affirm their way of life, just keep your nose out of their life and stop judging them by your christian espoused bigoted standards. You are on more dubious ground of judgement by believing in something that has no probabililty of existing.
"I don't believe there ever was a jesus, but some of the ideas attributed to hims are quite stellar." - i think you'll find most of the ideas attributed to him were in the public domain long before he was on the scene, its the usual spin by his followers to claim other peoples good ideas to try and drown out the crap hateful ideas put forward by his dad i.e. the bigoted ones these politicians are trying to get in by the back door.
i'd love to see those reports where Big Oil gives money to scientists supporting AGW, and as you ask at the bottom of your post, Do you have any citations which support your claim?
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replace "gay" with "black" - does your argument still hold up?
if that discriminatory attitude spread to every business in town and a gay person could not buy anything in that town, would that still be okay?
"Let's turn it around - suppose a gay person owned a custom T-shirt shop. Could they refuse to print up 100 T-shirts with anti-gay slogans on them?" - thats not a "turn around", its an apple and oranges example. If the gay cake was to say "up yours christian biggots," then you'd have a comparable analogy.
"Why do people like you hate people in Indiana and Arkansas?Do you hate just Christians? Or is it just Jews and Christians? Or people of all faiths? " - i doubt it, people just hate small minded bigots of any or no faith
" it's starting to read like Fox News for people who hate anything new." - you are not wrong there...
thats quite power intensive process so maybe it becomes more viable once they have more solar to power the plants
unfortunately most of the detractors of something new to market expect it to be at 100% usage/coverage and/or working 100% perfectly immediately as they've got nothing else of substance to complain about
and what percentage of hydro was in use in the first 10 years of hydro?
i was just calling you out on the lack of citations supporting your claim after you called someone else out for the lack of citation for their claim.
" It _basically_ instructs the courts to take into consideration sincerely-held religious convictions in discrimination cases " - and that is what is so wrong about this bill. there is already an outlet in law for the sincerely bigotted due to religious belief, its called "diminished responsibility" or a plea of insanity
"This is about establishing guidelines for government to avoid reflexively punishing religious individuals over their scruples of conscience." yes, its all about allowing discrimination because you are religious. by protecting the bigots over their misguided "scruples of conscience", you are creating a slippery slope to re-allowing the religious to discriminate on color over their misguided "scruples of conscience" as well.
"Because it's not about freedom, civil rights, or some crusade to make our country a better place. It's about them feeling accepted. While some religious activists are level headed, others would stomp on the Constitution itself if it would help them accomplish that goal of being accepted." fixed that for you
"Refuse to service whoever you want for whatever reason you want, it's your right and should remain your right whether you run a business or not." so if every business in that town did the same for the same reason the person discriminated against would have to leave the town ?
are you trolling? Adolf Hitler was a devout catholic and being a good catholic he hated the Jews as had been the practice for quite a few hundred years previously as they supposedly killed jesus. All nazi soldiers had "god is with us" on their uniforms
" they wouldn't obey a book blindly or believe in things that have absolutely no basis in reality" they generally don't obey the book blindly, they obey the bits that suit their biggotted ideas, simple example - how many christians still eat pork, prawns etc when their book says not to..., they no longer throw rocks at people for working on a sunday etc
"I've seen groups of gay supporters yell slurs and spit at people who's only crime was having a bible in their hands" - can't blame them for that, its a book of hatred, hence this whole discussion......
"Someone who is Christian can't make eating pork a condition of citizenship." they should also obey this edict as its in their bible as well but they conveniently ignore it but then they do selectively believe bits that conveniently fit their bigotary
"I'm personally intolerant of homosexuality. I don't dislike the individual homosexuals, but I will NEVER affirm their way of life -- and such will never be required of me." i think you'll find you'll find no-one is expecting you to affirm their way of life, just keep your nose out of their life and stop judging them by your christian espoused bigoted standards. You are on more dubious ground of judgement by believing in something that has no probabililty of existing.
offence is a bad defense as its taken not given. discrimination is the key word here
"I don't believe there ever was a jesus, but some of the ideas attributed to hims are quite stellar." - i think you'll find most of the ideas attributed to him were in the public domain long before he was on the scene, its the usual spin by his followers to claim other peoples good ideas to try and drown out the crap hateful ideas put forward by his dad i.e. the bigoted ones these politicians are trying to get in by the back door.
i'd love to see those reports where Big Oil gives money to scientists supporting AGW, and as you ask at the bottom of your post, Do you have any citations which support your claim?
china is ramping up all forms of power generation and capping coal, not just nuclear
just taking away their subsidies would make us pay the true cost of fossil fuel
how do you know? his mum might be typing on his behalf
try reading the summary ... " though exceptions exist for vehicles like taxis, electric cars and ambulances."