the Kernel, X, KDE, Gnome etc must all violate the Unix way as well by your interpretation. "not being he Unix way" is a lame argument anyway especially when other Unix based OSs have a similar system in place.
its at least an attempt to get trolls to do some research if they read it (which they won't) - he answered pretty much all the crap put out there by anti-systemd trolls
"Well, do you actually take on board the concerns of system administrators and enterprise users?" - what do you class RHEL as?
"doesn't try to replace several layers of server side system functionality such as logging?" - configure it to use rsyslog if you want, its YOUR choice and set the journald output to "don't save data"
I can't be assed to answer the rest of your post, you need to do some research and perhaps reread the interview.
Out of those scripts, how many do approx the same things i.e. how much duplicated scripting across all the scripts? "Start, Stop, Restart" quickly come to mind
Re-install a version that doesn't use it and then (Centos 3 or something) apply all the updates to all the software removing any references to systemd or use Gentoo/Slackware - the choice is yours.
" I don't understand the blatant systemd misrepresentation/hatred" - because it capabilities are mis-understood and you know how shit happens when people make comments and their mind up on incorrect statements. its just a load of idiot posters who know nothing of the subject, thinking they are making informed comments on something.
No, you can't do that but you can choose not to save its output and launch rsyslog to stick to the old way of logging so its not really an issue (unless you want to see it that way because you don't subscribe to systemd). https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordp...
seems like you've not done any research as to what systemd does and what you can configure in and out of systemd. its just an uninformed rant and you do sound like an anti-systemd troll because LP is involved and you've just regurgitated what previous trolls have said
well... OS X has its own systemd called launchd so whats the difference and FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees the need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launchd - looks like Gentoo for you if you really don't want a modern init system.
"This system D thing? Sorry but this has Obama's fingerprints all over it, no way I will use that." - wow, that says more about you than anything else you wrote. I can sell you a double layer tin foil hat...
its mainly down to ignorance of what systemd does, can do and doesn't do. most of the negative posts about systemd are based on some trolls misinformation (either deliberate or just plainly ignorant because they haven't done any research) . its "change" and change makes a small amount of people wet themselves and they cry louder than people who are not against change. here's a page to read that had to be created to try and cut through the crap spouted on these forums http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
Blame the distros for implementing it, they didn't have to. speak to the writers of the programs that force systemd dependency and ask them to make it optional.. or just maybe they see the sense of moving forward even though it may have a few bumps on the way
so are you going to whine when BSD implements their own version of systemd/launchd/upstart? "FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launch"
Look into the configuration options of systemd where you can freely choose what software to use. You imply that with systemd you can't do that which is not correct.
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list the things that systemd does that violates your KISS principle
the Kernel, X, KDE, Gnome etc must all violate the Unix way as well by your interpretation. "not being he Unix way" is a lame argument anyway especially when other Unix based OSs have a similar system in place.
can you list what systemd does that is "more than one thing"
its at least an attempt to get trolls to do some research if they read it (which they won't) - he answered pretty much all the crap put out there by anti-systemd trolls
Simple.. use a distro that doesn;t use it.
Yawn.. your record is scratched and broken
"Well, do you actually take on board the concerns of system administrators and enterprise users?" - what do you class RHEL as?
"doesn't try to replace several layers of server side system functionality such as logging?" - configure it to use rsyslog if you want, its YOUR choice and set the journald output to "don't save data"
I can't be assed to answer the rest of your post, you need to do some research and perhaps reread the interview.
Out of those scripts, how many do approx the same things i.e. how much duplicated scripting across all the scripts? "Start, Stop, Restart" quickly come to mind
What are the "at least 2 things" that systemd does?
Re-install a version that doesn't use it and then (Centos 3 or something) apply all the updates to all the software removing any references to systemd or use Gentoo/Slackware - the choice is yours.
" I don't understand the blatant systemd misrepresentation/hatred" - because it capabilities are mis-understood and you know how shit happens when people make comments and their mind up on incorrect statements. its just a load of idiot posters who know nothing of the subject, thinking they are making informed comments on something.
No, you can't do that but you can choose not to save its output and launch rsyslog to stick to the old way of logging so its not really an issue (unless you want to see it that way because you don't subscribe to systemd). https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordp...
seems like you've not done any research as to what systemd does and what you can configure in and out of systemd. its just an uninformed rant and you do sound like an anti-systemd troll because LP is involved and you've just regurgitated what previous trolls have said
This seems the place for you if you are worried about your reading of the future https://www.gentoo.org/
stop moaning and go your own way if you don't like the way things are going. go and try to do a better job
well... OS X has its own systemd called launchd so whats the difference and FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees the need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launchd - looks like Gentoo for you if you really don't want a modern init system.
perhaps you need to RTFA to stop looking like a troll
You'd better check what FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard has to say, he sees need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launch
please be done with GNU/Linux, or go back to Linux 1.0 when life was simpler
"This system D thing? Sorry but this has Obama's fingerprints all over it, no way I will use that." - wow, that says more about you than anything else you wrote. I can sell you a double layer tin foil hat...
its mainly down to ignorance of what systemd does, can do and doesn't do. most of the negative posts about systemd are based on some trolls misinformation (either deliberate or just plainly ignorant because they haven't done any research) . its "change" and change makes a small amount of people wet themselves and they cry louder than people who are not against change. here's a page to read that had to be created to try and cut through the crap spouted on these forums http://0pointer.de/blog/projec...
Blame the distros for implementing it, they didn't have to. speak to the writers of the programs that force systemd dependency and ask them to make it optional.. or just maybe they see the sense of moving forward even though it may have a few bumps on the way
are you ready?.... FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launch
so are you going to whine when BSD implements their own version of systemd/launchd/upstart? "FreeBSD's Jordan Hubbard sees need for a modern init system with features like systemd/launch"
Look into the configuration options of systemd where you can freely choose what software to use. You imply that with systemd you can't do that which is not correct.