i will trust my sensitive online applications, my sensitive information, with apple ? control freaks who send 'representatives' to people's doors after LOSING their latest prototype phone because an engineer got DRUNK in a bar ?
there's another daily show skit in an irrelevant subject actually. i would like to link that too but its too long watch for the punchline in the end - i will summarize it : "go fsck yourself"
1-2 years ago, microsoft appeared only as evil as apple. precisely similar discussions were going on in/.. people were still defending ms.
my point is, at the RATE things were going it was evident that we would reach this point in regard to microsoft villainy. currently apple's rate is the same. so...
despite all the sour stunts they pulled just in the last week (nearing 5 in number), and eclipsing microsoft in regard to evilish behavior per week rating, apple still cant be evil.
because it just cant.
if a friend of any of us behaved like apple, i wonder how many of us would keep him/her around them...
what are the legal obligations and boundaries of an individual private citizen searching someone's home ? can i just tell anyone about what i see in here ? youre not my friend, youre not my family. there are no definitions. since you agreed with me, i got in, i got access to everything in your home including your underwear ? what bars me from using any material inside for any purpose ?
those people were capable of disclosing those passes on a public court. it means that they are capable of doing other stupid things of equal level. they would do something else.
You turn the key and launch the missiles. You do not have the information that the boss has, no matter how stupid the boss is. Thus what appears to be dumb or a screw-up might instead be the least-bad option when all the available information is present.
or it might be a screw up of your boss, who was known to be stupid. just like in the terry childs case and with the disclosure of hundreds of live passwords to public as 'evidence'.
it doesnt matter what you say to them. what matters is, a private corporation having the guts to send people to your door to conduct a search, without any police or legal authority involving in the search.
What the punishment should be, for that VERY bosses who were authorized to have those passwords, after they have disclosed LIVE usernames and passwords to the system as evidence in a PUBLIC court, therefore causing a disruption of 2-3 days in the city services in the ensuing chaos, and potentially paving the way for an untold number of hacking incidents that may or may not have taken place ?
it is probable that terry childs knew his bosses were STUPID enough to be capable of doing things of this, well, stupidity.
so, he should have just willy nillily disclose the passwords to the stupid management, and just get the responsibility off him, whereas endangering the private information of city services and maybe millions of citizens in the process ?
a similar example comes to mind, maybe if a bit exaggerated :
you are the commanding officer of a nuclear silo. you get orders from your boss to initiate a launch, ending lives of hundreds of millions, and potentially ending the world. your boss is an idiot of the first order and screws up regularly. but, the order is compliant with the procedure.
what do you do ? do you kill the stupid jurors who would find you guilty in case you refused ? or would you save their lives ?
THEY DIDN'T SEARCH HIS HOME, they said a collection of words from his doorstep when his door was (probably) open.
Also, uncommonness is not a good way to measure things. Just because you're the lone voice in the wilderness doesn't make you wrong.
I just don't understand your position. What's so horrible about being asked something? That seems overly sensitive.
come back and tell me whats so horrible about it when some private corporation's 'representatives' come and ask you to search your house, going through all the belongings of your family, including underwear of your wife, husband or kids, as well as the stuff in your medicine cupboard.
and with we, i mean all internet users around the world. if the comcast bastardiness stands, more american companies will imitate it first, then the international companies in other countries will start to demand the same rights to rule over their users' traffic.
if this tide is stemmed there, that wont take off.
It is not happening in the game's I'm playing or have played, because monsters weak enough to be killed by mindless AE macroing give close to zero XP. Seriously, not worth setting up a macro, you would spend 2 weeks to go up a single level. I contest that that's completly false.
If you share XP equally without a party you can then mindless grind monsters that give you a signifant amount of XP. That's a huge difference. Seriously, pick a popular game and try leveling by AE grinding alone and see where it gets you.
my experience with wow belies this proposition. i have come upon countless chinese farmer toons, and quite a good number of them were non aoe classes (hunter). they kill their targets one by one. yet, they just grind.
Restricting XP from a single source- now you are making decisions for how someone can and can't level up, what about the people who want to grind? What's the number you have to kill before you have to pick some other monster? Am I going ot have to move once an hour, or if I'm a grinder am I going to have to start questing and give up that playstyle?
that totally depends on the game and would be different from game to game for each game.
I don't get what a straight player is. All games have rules, all players are forced to follow them. If a game lets you do something, it is straight and part of the game. That includes using the best method of progressing in a game.
that goes for everything. one would argue that also aoe grinding would be proper and within rules. since its a spell and there are monsters. it would be illogical to first give something out then try to exceedingly limit its usage.
and there is nothing preventing 5 people from grouping up and aoe grinding anyway. and there are those who do it.
first, if the mobs in the area is weak enough for someone to kill them by himself/herself, there is nothing preventing what you speak of from happening. actually its happening currently anyway. allowing kill steal to happen, or reducing rate of xp dont change anything, they just do it longer.
second, that can be alleviated by preventing repetitive xp from the same source. you measure the average different encounter number that one toon would have while following a certain questline (as in the storyline) and then you would arrange xp rate according to that. but still even that wouldnt prevent that from happening.
so its damned if you do and damned if you dont, but, in the current state, it penalizes the straight players. straight players have to suffer longer grinds because of the attempts to prevent such exploits. and its bad.
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up till the last few years, the evil microsoft has remained generally in 'business' circle, with their partners, vendors, corporate clients.
then they started banging the ordinary people.
apple has started doing it now.
seem to be awfully well informed and experienced on this subject ...
i will trust my sensitive online applications, my sensitive information, with apple ? control freaks who send 'representatives' to people's doors after LOSING their latest prototype phone because an engineer got DRUNK in a bar ?
oh yea.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-april-28-2010-ken-blackwell
there's another daily show skit in an irrelevant subject actually. i would like to link that too but its too long watch for the punchline in the end - i will summarize it : "go fsck yourself"
doh
be sure to haveee some tootpicks in your teeethh
1-2 years ago, microsoft appeared only as evil as apple. precisely similar discussions were going on in /.. people were still defending ms.
...
my point is, at the RATE things were going it was evident that we would reach this point in regard to microsoft villainy. currently apple's rate is the same. so
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-april-28-2010-ken-blackwell
i really would like to read a sensible answer to this.
your words sound just like microsoft fanboys 1-2 years ago, talking about what microsoft was doing.
lets wait and see.
despite all the sour stunts they pulled just in the last week (nearing 5 in number), and eclipsing microsoft in regard to evilish behavior per week rating, apple still cant be evil.
...
because it just cant.
if a friend of any of us behaved like apple, i wonder how many of us would keep him/her around them
you would, however the point is a private corporation attempting that.
i know with great probability that my boss is screwing up, since he is prone to it.
privacy laws.
what are the legal obligations and boundaries of an individual private citizen searching someone's home ? can i just tell anyone about what i see in here ? youre not my friend, youre not my family. there are no definitions. since you agreed with me, i got in, i got access to everything in your home including your underwear ? what bars me from using any material inside for any purpose ?
those people were capable of disclosing those passes on a public court. it means that they are capable of doing other stupid things of equal level. they would do something else.
You turn the key and launch the missiles. You do not have the information that the boss has, no matter how stupid the boss is. Thus what appears to be dumb or a screw-up might instead be the least-bad option when all the available information is present.
or it might be a screw up of your boss, who was known to be stupid. just like in the terry childs case and with the disclosure of hundreds of live passwords to public as 'evidence'.
at this rate, soon yes.
worse than china. in china traffic is controlled by a central authority. if the authority changes its policy everything changes.
in comcast case it is per private company. if it takes of it will be a feudal kingdom with all isps reigning over their own fief. much bigger hassle.
enter 23262625234244519th person to have read TFAs half assedly.
police searched gizmodo editor's home. apple sent 'representatives' to the home of the guy who gave the phone to the gizmodo editor.
it doesnt matter what you say to them. what matters is, a private corporation having the guts to send people to your door to conduct a search, without any police or legal authority involving in the search.
What the punishment should be, for that VERY bosses who were authorized to have those passwords, after they have disclosed LIVE usernames and passwords to the system as evidence in a PUBLIC court, therefore causing a disruption of 2-3 days in the city services in the ensuing chaos, and potentially paving the way for an untold number of hacking incidents that may or may not have taken place ?
it is probable that terry childs knew his bosses were STUPID enough to be capable of doing things of this, well, stupidity.
so, he should have just willy nillily disclose the passwords to the stupid management, and just get the responsibility off him, whereas endangering the private information of city services and maybe millions of citizens in the process ?
a similar example comes to mind, maybe if a bit exaggerated :
you are the commanding officer of a nuclear silo. you get orders from your boss to initiate a launch, ending lives of hundreds of millions, and potentially ending the world. your boss is an idiot of the first order and screws up regularly. but, the order is compliant with the procedure.
what do you do ? do you kill the stupid jurors who would find you guilty in case you refused ? or would you save their lives ?
i would like the juror to explain.
THEY DIDN'T SEARCH HIS HOME, they said a collection of words from his doorstep when his door was (probably) open. Also, uncommonness is not a good way to measure things. Just because you're the lone voice in the wilderness doesn't make you wrong. I just don't understand your position. What's so horrible about being asked something? That seems overly sensitive.
come back and tell me whats so horrible about it when some private corporation's 'representatives' come and ask you to search your house, going through all the belongings of your family, including underwear of your wife, husband or kids, as well as the stuff in your medicine cupboard.
oh geeee.
another one who didnt read TFAs and barges in.
police went to the website editor's house.
'apple representatives' went to the house of the guy who gave the phone to the website editor.
and with we, i mean all internet users around the world. if the comcast bastardiness stands, more american companies will imitate it first, then the international companies in other countries will start to demand the same rights to rule over their users' traffic.
if this tide is stemmed there, that wont take off.
It is not happening in the game's I'm playing or have played, because monsters weak enough to be killed by mindless AE macroing give close to zero XP. Seriously, not worth setting up a macro, you would spend 2 weeks to go up a single level. I contest that that's completly false. If you share XP equally without a party you can then mindless grind monsters that give you a signifant amount of XP. That's a huge difference. Seriously, pick a popular game and try leveling by AE grinding alone and see where it gets you.
my experience with wow belies this proposition. i have come upon countless chinese farmer toons, and quite a good number of them were non aoe classes (hunter). they kill their targets one by one. yet, they just grind.
Restricting XP from a single source- now you are making decisions for how someone can and can't level up, what about the people who want to grind? What's the number you have to kill before you have to pick some other monster? Am I going ot have to move once an hour, or if I'm a grinder am I going to have to start questing and give up that playstyle?
that totally depends on the game and would be different from game to game for each game.
I don't get what a straight player is. All games have rules, all players are forced to follow them. If a game lets you do something, it is straight and part of the game. That includes using the best method of progressing in a game.
that goes for everything. one would argue that also aoe grinding would be proper and within rules. since its a spell and there are monsters. it would be illogical to first give something out then try to exceedingly limit its usage.
and there is nothing preventing 5 people from grouping up and aoe grinding anyway. and there are those who do it.
first, if the mobs in the area is weak enough for someone to kill them by himself/herself, there is nothing preventing what you speak of from happening. actually its happening currently anyway. allowing kill steal to happen, or reducing rate of xp dont change anything, they just do it longer.
second, that can be alleviated by preventing repetitive xp from the same source. you measure the average different encounter number that one toon would have while following a certain questline (as in the storyline) and then you would arrange xp rate according to that. but still even that wouldnt prevent that from happening.
so its damned if you do and damned if you dont, but, in the current state, it penalizes the straight players. straight players have to suffer longer grinds because of the attempts to prevent such exploits. and its bad.
but do read this discussion. there are at least 5 people finding that normal.