why should a game have a completion. why it should have an ending. and why the hell do we have to see them ?
games used to be played for the entertainment they induced WHILE they were being played. they werent some struggle that we would get rewarded in the end. really, WHAT can you do possibly to reward a player, after forcing him/her to go through a lot of arduous 'challenges' over 30-50 hours average in a game ? have him/her laid ?
increasingly after the mid 90s, games were made to give 'challenges'. some screwed up corporate engineering wisdom that is probably centered around usa (they are very obsessed with 'challenge' and 'success' as a culture) made games more and more synonymous with the words 'challenge' and 'success'. and, the value of the game started to be evaluated around how much 'play time' it offered. culmination of this has been world of warcraft. endles cycle off challenges and successes. an ultimate success (boss) in the end, refreshing every 6-12 months.
games became stuff that subjected the player to arduous work towards interim or ultimate objectives. the enjoyment was considered as progressing through those objectives. the fun while doing that, was discarded and made synonymous with the progression and struggle. also, 'better' graphics, 'cooler' sounds came with the package as additions, with technology. it was thought this was the way.
then wii came. it bitchslapped the exceedingly corporatized and industrialized gaming sector. simple, concentrating on actual continuous play fun rather than progression and objectives, it brought fun back into the games. 5 year olds as well as 80 year olds started gaming, along with the hardcore gamer who was supposed to be toiling his/her life away during progression/challenge runs in between objectives. entire game industry was stupefied, and instantly they started to imitate left and right. even world of warcraft was softened, the grind lessened and game was made more fluid, along with added 'fun' elements which you could experience during the gameplay, instead of interim objectives. all the games and platforms took their share from the new wave. even mass effect 2 was simplified (maybe unnecessarily and maybe too far). the simplicity and actual playtime fun of games were brought back from the indie game circle they have been pushed to.
was it too hard to understand that, people who worked or studied during their weekday time, would not like to repeat the same thing again, in a game, which they were supposedly to have fun ? if you ask me, it doesnt take 2 brain cells. but, it happened. im tying it to the exceedingly vocal minority that is present in gaming crowd on the net, ie 'achievement deranged' crowd, along with the increasingly corporate engineer nature of gaming companies.
games need to be designed with a childish mind, not a corporate engineer mind. for, games are not going to be sold to vendors, or marketed to government officials or corporate bigwigs in order to strike juicy deals. games are going to be sold to the man in the street for entertainment. its about human nature. its about human nature that comes into being while wearing pajamas at 20.00 in the still of one's own living room. you cant understand it in a corporate environment with a corporate mind.
well, anyway, here we are now; wii bitchslapped the industry, and they all jumped in the bandwagon. we will see how many of them will succeed in understanding.
there was an 'os move'. 1-1.5 years ago. they had delivered various press releases and whatnot putting a friendly face to oss. made various moves at that time too. this was probably one of them.
- Develop a software that can be used for the average need of the average user out there. (average relative to any particular field).
- Let people have it free
- Develop modules for niche needs for the software
- Sell modules
- Profit
logic is, not everyone will need every functionality. it will just bloat the software. so, something that will work and do the core tasks needed needs to be open source. and any added obscure or specific functionality has to come with modules. this way, users will be able to add functionality to their software as they need.
this works in oscommerce for example. in joomla, drupal, any major os software. it can work for many of them.
Now isps will be able to screw americans using the lines they built on public land with government subsidies, saying 'our network'.
only in america. no really, only in america. there is no other example of this being let happen in any place around the world. this includes turkey. when the isps here tried to bullshit by saying 'these networks are ours', regulatory agency bitchslapped them into submission.
if apple went ahead with that policy, and tried to practice it, Eu would eventually bitchslap them into changing it. And what Eu does is nothing like what FTC does - When microsoft tried to stall compliance with Eu's decision, Eu started fining them 500,000 Euros a day. Suddenly microsoft managed to come up with a compliance plan that was implementable in acceptable time. Now we have ballot boxes in ms oses sold in europe.
FTC would be way too soft on american corporations, due to the lobbyism plague there is in america.
At least google doesnt send private 'representatives' to ask permission to 'search' people's homes http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/dude-apple/
And, in every open source project there is an 'oligarchy'. There is a vision holder, or vision holders there are those who understand the vision and want to contribute to it, there are other circles around these up until the user. And when any person in any circle doesnt like how vision is implemented or wants to practice another vision, they fork.
This is the way open source works. But, i believe it would be WAY too much to ask for someone who is affiliated with Apple in such a way to understand that.
Europe is not doing it. BRITAIN is doing it. Britain is at odds to almost EVERY single thing Eu tries to do. This includes britain installing cameras to look up british people's asses. Britain is NOT europe. Britain and u.s. is copying each other, like they did for centuries, whereas Europe is moving in a totally different course of progress.
You may want to learn more about europe. What they are doing there, is working.
so you can choose not to do business with them. ok. you chose that. all the while, because of the contract you signed, that corporation will still be able to do whatever you allowed them to do with your private information. share with corp x, corp y, sell it to advertiser z, this and that.
and some xyz corp will be able to gather all the pieces of info coming from different sources and have more info on you than government has. because, you dont tell government what you like, and dislike, do you ?
so basically a private corporation, somewhere, probably has much more info on you than leave aside your government, but even your parents ever may have hoped to know about you.
you choosing 'not to do business with them' doesnt mean shit. once your information is out, its out.
American public is very fool in regard to private vs govt. distinction. They trust almost every kind of info with private companies. Which, are under scarce obligations in regard to your private info, because they make you sign under contracts/eulas that almost relieve them all kinds of obligations. Basically you give them every kind of info and they can do anything with it, and you cant sue them even. Even if you do, you cant win, not because you dont have enough money to win but because they will come up as legally right. Even if they were wrong, you would still have to find enough money to sue them anyway.
But when govt. attempts to do a census, hell breaks loose. Despite the fact that you can have former govt. officials easily prosecuted in courts, OR if its not possible, a future senate/congress can do it when you elect the right people.
Its stupid. People need to learn 'private' doesnt mean 'good'.
and have no opportunities for political career. oddly, such people not only can keep in public life in usa, but also create immense problems for the society.
this will refer some more respectability to open source. it is very important.
also i wonder which fool tagged this 'idle'. it is something which will create more clout for os, and also advertise it in the eyes of government level bureaucrats. yet some of you were short sighted enough to think this was an 'idle' affair to be tagged as idle.
i meant in regard to hacks, viruses that are going about. even if you ran under non admin, the sheer number of viruses and hacks that would go out would eventually make it a similar situation.
ICQ was killed by microsoft's o/s monopoly just like netscape. since messenger started to be pushed in windows installations, icq users dwindled speedily. soon we were left to a group of 'elite' people, who were there before instant messengers first came out, while the masses were on messenger. due to business needs, we eventually had to migrate to messenger. most of us hated it, and we still hate it. thankfully googletalk came, but it is still relatively unknown.
i very much think eu should slap ms with an anti monopoly fine and force them to offer instant messenger choice screen during installation.
i want to kick the first person that says apple is still not evil in the face. and not in a glamorous, bruce lee fashion. i mean good old fashioned dumb and dumber flat kick.
every other day a new stunt and im sure apple is still not evil and there will be people to defend apple's non evilness with me to the extent of defending some private corporation sending private 'representatives' (non pi, non law enforcement) to SEARCH your home as 'not creepy'.
but im waiting. im wondering the precise point at which they will start to realize that if something is going upside down, it means that the going is bad.
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why should a game have a completion. why it should have an ending. and why the hell do we have to see them ?
games used to be played for the entertainment they induced WHILE they were being played. they werent some struggle that we would get rewarded in the end. really, WHAT can you do possibly to reward a player, after forcing him/her to go through a lot of arduous 'challenges' over 30-50 hours average in a game ? have him/her laid ?
increasingly after the mid 90s, games were made to give 'challenges'. some screwed up corporate engineering wisdom that is probably centered around usa (they are very obsessed with 'challenge' and 'success' as a culture) made games more and more synonymous with the words 'challenge' and 'success'. and, the value of the game started to be evaluated around how much 'play time' it offered. culmination of this has been world of warcraft. endles cycle off challenges and successes. an ultimate success (boss) in the end, refreshing every 6-12 months.
games became stuff that subjected the player to arduous work towards interim or ultimate objectives. the enjoyment was considered as progressing through those objectives. the fun while doing that, was discarded and made synonymous with the progression and struggle. also, 'better' graphics, 'cooler' sounds came with the package as additions, with technology. it was thought this was the way.
then wii came. it bitchslapped the exceedingly corporatized and industrialized gaming sector. simple, concentrating on actual continuous play fun rather than progression and objectives, it brought fun back into the games. 5 year olds as well as 80 year olds started gaming, along with the hardcore gamer who was supposed to be toiling his/her life away during progression/challenge runs in between objectives. entire game industry was stupefied, and instantly they started to imitate left and right. even world of warcraft was softened, the grind lessened and game was made more fluid, along with added 'fun' elements which you could experience during the gameplay, instead of interim objectives. all the games and platforms took their share from the new wave. even mass effect 2 was simplified (maybe unnecessarily and maybe too far). the simplicity and actual playtime fun of games were brought back from the indie game circle they have been pushed to.
was it too hard to understand that, people who worked or studied during their weekday time, would not like to repeat the same thing again, in a game, which they were supposedly to have fun ? if you ask me, it doesnt take 2 brain cells. but, it happened. im tying it to the exceedingly vocal minority that is present in gaming crowd on the net, ie 'achievement deranged' crowd, along with the increasingly corporate engineer nature of gaming companies.
games need to be designed with a childish mind, not a corporate engineer mind. for, games are not going to be sold to vendors, or marketed to government officials or corporate bigwigs in order to strike juicy deals. games are going to be sold to the man in the street for entertainment. its about human nature. its about human nature that comes into being while wearing pajamas at 20.00 in the still of one's own living room. you cant understand it in a corporate environment with a corporate mind.
well, anyway, here we are now; wii bitchslapped the industry, and they all jumped in the bandwagon. we will see how many of them will succeed in understanding.
there was an 'os move'. 1-1.5 years ago. they had delivered various press releases and whatnot putting a friendly face to oss. made various moves at that time too. this was probably one of them.
i wonder. i wonder what those who jumped on the bandwagon because of their 'os move' back then.
- Develop a software that can be used for the average need of the average user out there. (average relative to any particular field).
- Let people have it free
- Develop modules for niche needs for the software
- Sell modules
- Profit
logic is, not everyone will need every functionality. it will just bloat the software. so, something that will work and do the core tasks needed needs to be open source. and any added obscure or specific functionality has to come with modules. this way, users will be able to add functionality to their software as they need.
this works in oscommerce for example. in joomla, drupal, any major os software. it can work for many of them.
Now isps will be able to screw americans using the lines they built on public land with government subsidies, saying 'our network'.
only in america. no really, only in america. there is no other example of this being let happen in any place around the world. this includes turkey. when the isps here tried to bullshit by saying 'these networks are ours', regulatory agency bitchslapped them into submission.
if apple went ahead with that policy, and tried to practice it, Eu would eventually bitchslap them into changing it. And what Eu does is nothing like what FTC does - When microsoft tried to stall compliance with Eu's decision, Eu started fining them 500,000 Euros a day. Suddenly microsoft managed to come up with a compliance plan that was implementable in acceptable time. Now we have ballot boxes in ms oses sold in europe.
FTC would be way too soft on american corporations, due to the lobbyism plague there is in america.
apple should thank ftc.
At least google doesnt send private 'representatives' to ask permission to 'search' people's homes
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/dude-apple/
And, in every open source project there is an 'oligarchy'. There is a vision holder, or vision holders there are those who understand the vision and want to contribute to it, there are other circles around these up until the user. And when any person in any circle doesnt like how vision is implemented or wants to practice another vision, they fork.
This is the way open source works. But, i believe it would be WAY too much to ask for someone who is affiliated with Apple in such a way to understand that.
Europe is not doing it. BRITAIN is doing it. Britain is at odds to almost EVERY single thing Eu tries to do. This includes britain installing cameras to look up british people's asses. Britain is NOT europe. Britain and u.s. is copying each other, like they did for centuries, whereas Europe is moving in a totally different course of progress.
You may want to learn more about europe. What they are doing there, is working.
so you can choose not to do business with them. ok. you chose that. all the while, because of the contract you signed, that corporation will still be able to do whatever you allowed them to do with your private information. share with corp x, corp y, sell it to advertiser z, this and that.
and some xyz corp will be able to gather all the pieces of info coming from different sources and have more info on you than government has. because, you dont tell government what you like, and dislike, do you ?
so basically a private corporation, somewhere, probably has much more info on you than leave aside your government, but even your parents ever may have hoped to know about you.
you choosing 'not to do business with them' doesnt mean shit. once your information is out, its out.
American public is very fool in regard to private vs govt. distinction. They trust almost every kind of info with private companies. Which, are under scarce obligations in regard to your private info, because they make you sign under contracts/eulas that almost relieve them all kinds of obligations. Basically you give them every kind of info and they can do anything with it, and you cant sue them even. Even if you do, you cant win, not because you dont have enough money to win but because they will come up as legally right. Even if they were wrong, you would still have to find enough money to sue them anyway.
But when govt. attempts to do a census, hell breaks loose. Despite the fact that you can have former govt. officials easily prosecuted in courts, OR if its not possible, a future senate/congress can do it when you elect the right people.
Its stupid. People need to learn 'private' doesnt mean 'good'.
"Why we will only support H.264 ..... evil evil evil ..... evil ... more evil ...."
Evil
and have no opportunities for political career. oddly, such people not only can keep in public life in usa, but also create immense problems for the society.
this will refer some more respectability to open source. it is very important.
also i wonder which fool tagged this 'idle'. it is something which will create more clout for os, and also advertise it in the eyes of government level bureaucrats. yet some of you were short sighted enough to think this was an 'idle' affair to be tagged as idle.
i meant in regard to hacks, viruses that are going about. even if you ran under non admin, the sheer number of viruses and hacks that would go out would eventually make it a similar situation.
the only power that can mandate it is Eu as of now.
had 7 had the same level of widespread usage, it would be in the same position.
xp works quite fine and does everything. did you ever hear the motto 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' ?
ICQ was killed by microsoft's o/s monopoly just like netscape. since messenger started to be pushed in windows installations, icq users dwindled speedily. soon we were left to a group of 'elite' people, who were there before instant messengers first came out, while the masses were on messenger. due to business needs, we eventually had to migrate to messenger. most of us hated it, and we still hate it. thankfully googletalk came, but it is still relatively unknown.
i very much think eu should slap ms with an anti monopoly fine and force them to offer instant messenger choice screen during installation.
i wonder how long until a bunch of them jury will succumb to the 'stealing' and 'intellectual property rights' or 'innovation' baits.
now thats a first.
i wonder how low u.s. judicial system will sink under the weight of the money of riaa.
i want to kick the first person that says apple is still not evil in the face. and not in a glamorous, bruce lee fashion. i mean good old fashioned dumb and dumber flat kick.
yet, we put maybe more than half of the people in front of screens to work 8 hours a day sitting on a desk, yet, somehow it is alright to do so.
every other day a new stunt and im sure apple is still not evil and there will be people to defend apple's non evilness with me to the extent of defending some private corporation sending private 'representatives' (non pi, non law enforcement) to SEARCH your home as 'not creepy'.
but im waiting. im wondering the precise point at which they will start to realize that if something is going upside down, it means that the going is bad.
apart from the fact that im not american
but you do this, and you get 20 years on average.
it seems like u.s. justice system is so fucked up.