im turkish. yet even i know that the liberties and freedoms which we are living in our current age are the product of the age of enlightenment, which comes from labors of age of reason, and which started and flourished in dutch speaking countries.
excuse me pal, but you wouldnt be watching no great hollywood film, or hearing an 'actual good music', or any other kind of shit if those stuff didnt happen.
instead you would be born as a son of a serf which was under the yoke of a local lord, and be toiling your ass off for nothing for your entire life.
what your founding fathers have read and studied in their youth, and the ideas they nourished and practiced in your country are the product of age of reason and age of enlightenment.
next time before blabbering about rights and living off the fruits, first learn what fruits you are living off yourself.
around 100.000 people (and more) as of this moment are using that crappy proprietary flash plugin without any issues. if your browser keeps crashing, you have a problem. this is much easier than downloading another program and set it up, even if its (supposedly) open source.
An anecdotal example
A Lyrebird's tale
During the early 1930s, a male lyrebird, called "James", formed a close bond of friendship with a human being, Mrs. Wilkinson, after she had been offering food to him over a period of time. James would perform his courtship dance for her on one of his mounds which he had constructed in her backyard -- and he would also put on his display for a wider audience, but only when Mrs. Wilkinson was one of those present. On one such occasion, James' performance lasted for forty-three minutes, and included steps to a courtship dance accompanied by his own tune -- and also included imitating perfectly the calls of an Australian Magpie, and a young magpie being fed by a parent-bird, a Eastern Whipbird, a Bellbird, a complete laughing-song of a Kookaburra, two Kookaburras laughing in unison, a Yellow-tailed Black-cockatoo, a Gang-gang Cockatoo, an Eastern Rosella, a Pied Butcherbird, a Wattle-bird, a Grey Shrike-thrush, a Thornbill, a White-browed Scrubwren, a Striated Pardalote, a Starling, a Yellow Robin, a Golden Whistler, a flock of parrots whistling in flight, the Crimson Rosella, several other birds whose notes his audience were not able to identify, and the song of honey-eaters (tiny birds with tiny voices), that gather in numbers and "cheep" and twitter in a multitudinous sweet whispering. In order to mimic the honeyeaters' singing faithfully, James was obliged to subdue his powerful voice to the faintest pianissimo, but he contrived, nevertheless, to make each individual note of the soft chorus audibly distinct. Also included in James' performance was his perfect mimicry of the sounds made by a rock-crusher at work, a hydraulic ram, and the tooting of motor-horns. [9]
it's absolutely appalling to see people feel they have to tie every move which happens on top of the business world to some 'logical and rational market move' or some darwinian bullshit.
excuse me guys, but, people on top of business world, board of directors, ceos, executives are ALL people. they have various emotions like anyone else. remember how a number of executives had totally crashed u.s. and world economy out of pure simple greed, letting go of all reasonable precautions and moves with the hedge fund gig.
the fact that up to this date many of the moves on top of business world have been done through selfish, negative interests does NOT mean that it has to be like that forever into the future.
they are people. yes, a board of directors, executives CAN feel positive emotions, and CAN move out of goodwill, or a sense of honor, or any other similar emotion.
none of them are exempt from being homo sapiens sapiens, after all, which is what we all exactly are.
This was done intentionally by Microsoft, even going so far as making important components like Explorer depend on it. This isn't really the case any more for most of Windows, but the third party programs still need it, so removing it would break a lot of programs people use.
that should have NEVER happened in any case. that's the reason why we have so big botnets. because internet explorer is an easy gateway to taking over a computer through the internet.
and as a result eu has taken over u.s. both in life standards of its citizens, and the power of its economy. while u.s. is practically bankrupt, and printing money to pay debts.
so what was your point ? just trying to sell old mccarthian shit ?
individuals and businesses lost billions of dollars in total due to the absurd insistence of ms with subtly linking internet explorer and windows explorer and one being able to intrude the other's duties. a lot of viruses spread around exploting this forced integration of the browser with the operating system. EVEN if you install other browsers, you cant still let go of internet explorer, because its entrenched in your system. and all these leaving aside being a monopolistic/explotiative tool to corner the market.
spinoza, rather not too ironically, laying the groundwork for the coming of age of reason, in a country that not only accepts him, but also takes his thoughts seriously. that country has been netherlands.
the lists STARTS with spinoza. go to wikipedia, search spinoza, read who he actually is, then keep on reading. you'll get stupefied with the sheer number of dutch names on the list that will grow in front of your eyes.
a little clue tho, for the sake of charity ; reading spinoza will start you on the subjects of Age of Reason, which evolves into Age of Enlightenment, which evolves into modern day societies and societal norms like freedom of speech, individual freedoms, equality and more.
since 15th century, dutch speaking countries (low countries) have led the world in modern and visionary concepts, in areas ranging from humanism to trade. erasmus, spinoza and more. and now this....
the problem is, when enough members of the society adopts a certain behavior pattern, that pattern gets stronger and stronger, and also affects those within the group too.
simple breakdown :
as more and more punks accept your proposal of badass heaven as a viable way of life, the application of power does not stop with those outside the group. people who follow the path of 'power' do not sit around a round table and distribute the spoils like good samaritans. the ones who are more powerful think they deserve and can take more, and a power struggle ensues. it goes on until all the participants think that they are on the highest level of power structure as they can get, and only then the system can work. and when it does, its a very inefficient system - more effort is spent in preserving the power structure than applying that power to outside sources for profit and gain. and since gains are unevenly distributed from top to bottom, the synergy that abundance creates does not happen.
as an example you can observe the current supposedly free market environment in united states. even though there are regulations, the power is aggregated by a few big groups that have increasingly more and more power, and eventually every other lesser group becomes an underdog. and these groups spend more cash for mergers, acquisitions, deals, licenses, buying laws, defending markets than they actually invest. result is, through a lot of side causes, and some last resort actions, the decline of us as an economy in contrast to europe, india and china, and the current economic crisis.
as can be understood from the example, such groups eventually kill themselves. OR, turn about.
the case of mutually beneficial, freedom and sharing based concepts is an easy one to talk about. you are living in apartments/houses in 21st century luxury, just because these thoughts have taken foothold, and a totally weak specie of hominoid monkeys have started to take care of their weak regardless of anything, and therefore have been able to develop skills that were not immediately needed for survival at that point in time, but later proved big technological advancements.
add to that the fact that throughout the course of history, it has been the more democratical, equalitarian, socially conscious, mutually beneficial relations-seeking groups and societies making big strides and achieving great things both for themselves and others, you can see the big picture. greek democracy, despite living in barren islands with little resources and little population, have bested and outlived many big empires that threatened them. same goes for republic of venice, dutch republic for centuries, and britains emerging as a big country from an obscure island through implementation of human rights and societal justice, and eventually the emergence of united states from a mere colony to a big nation.
all these have bested all kinds of badass wannabee, hardliner countries that threatened them.
of course, not that you were serious about what you were saying. its evident that you are being sarcastic, for noone can be that stupid.
im turkish. yet even i know that the liberties and freedoms which we are living in our current age are the product of the age of enlightenment, which comes from labors of age of reason, and which started and flourished in dutch speaking countries.
excuse me pal, but you wouldnt be watching no great hollywood film, or hearing an 'actual good music', or any other kind of shit if those stuff didnt happen.
instead you would be born as a son of a serf which was under the yoke of a local lord, and be toiling your ass off for nothing for your entire life.
what your founding fathers have read and studied in their youth, and the ideas they nourished and practiced in your country are the product of age of reason and age of enlightenment.
next time before blabbering about rights and living off the fruits, first learn what fruits you are living off yourself.
go fetch my torch and you all get your pitchforks. we are doing overtime these days dammit ...
octoshape thingy may be the distributed video thingamajig i think.
around 100.000 people (and more) as of this moment are using that crappy proprietary flash plugin without any issues. if your browser keeps crashing, you have a problem. this is much easier than downloading another program and set it up, even if its (supposedly) open source.
a corporation is a group of people. just like any other 'construct' that exists in social life is.
i know mine will sit and stare at our hermit crab for hours, without anyone ever ordering him to do so.
that's because you dont kiss him enough.
the page is named IDLE. ffs. IDLE.
An anecdotal example A Lyrebird's tale During the early 1930s, a male lyrebird, called "James", formed a close bond of friendship with a human being, Mrs. Wilkinson, after she had been offering food to him over a period of time. James would perform his courtship dance for her on one of his mounds which he had constructed in her backyard -- and he would also put on his display for a wider audience, but only when Mrs. Wilkinson was one of those present. On one such occasion, James' performance lasted for forty-three minutes, and included steps to a courtship dance accompanied by his own tune -- and also included imitating perfectly the calls of an Australian Magpie, and a young magpie being fed by a parent-bird, a Eastern Whipbird, a Bellbird, a complete laughing-song of a Kookaburra, two Kookaburras laughing in unison, a Yellow-tailed Black-cockatoo, a Gang-gang Cockatoo, an Eastern Rosella, a Pied Butcherbird, a Wattle-bird, a Grey Shrike-thrush, a Thornbill, a White-browed Scrubwren, a Striated Pardalote, a Starling, a Yellow Robin, a Golden Whistler, a flock of parrots whistling in flight, the Crimson Rosella, several other birds whose notes his audience were not able to identify, and the song of honey-eaters (tiny birds with tiny voices), that gather in numbers and "cheep" and twitter in a multitudinous sweet whispering. In order to mimic the honeyeaters' singing faithfully, James was obliged to subdue his powerful voice to the faintest pianissimo, but he contrived, nevertheless, to make each individual note of the soft chorus audibly distinct. Also included in James' performance was his perfect mimicry of the sounds made by a rock-crusher at work, a hydraulic ram, and the tooting of motor-horns. [9]
it's absolutely appalling to see people feel they have to tie every move which happens on top of the business world to some 'logical and rational market move' or some darwinian bullshit.
excuse me guys, but, people on top of business world, board of directors, ceos, executives are ALL people. they have various emotions like anyone else. remember how a number of executives had totally crashed u.s. and world economy out of pure simple greed, letting go of all reasonable precautions and moves with the hedge fund gig.
the fact that up to this date many of the moves on top of business world have been done through selfish, negative interests does NOT mean that it has to be like that forever into the future.
they are people. yes, a board of directors, executives CAN feel positive emotions, and CAN move out of goodwill, or a sense of honor, or any other similar emotion.
none of them are exempt from being homo sapiens sapiens, after all, which is what we all exactly are.
i can do it much easier without downlading anything at http://edition.cnn.com/video/fb/facebook.html?stream=stream1
it comes with a 1-2 million crowded facebook event to boot.
This was done intentionally by Microsoft, even going so far as making important components like Explorer depend on it. This isn't really the case any more for most of Windows, but the third party programs still need it, so removing it would break a lot of programs people use.
that should have NEVER happened in any case. that's the reason why we have so big botnets. because internet explorer is an easy gateway to taking over a computer through the internet.
and as a result eu has taken over u.s. both in life standards of its citizens, and the power of its economy. while u.s. is practically bankrupt, and printing money to pay debts.
so what was your point ? just trying to sell old mccarthian shit ?
individuals and businesses lost billions of dollars in total due to the absurd insistence of ms with subtly linking internet explorer and windows explorer and one being able to intrude the other's duties. a lot of viruses spread around exploting this forced integration of the browser with the operating system. EVEN if you install other browsers, you cant still let go of internet explorer, because its entrenched in your system. and all these leaving aside being a monopolistic/explotiative tool to corner the market.
if not, why it has a u.s. flag as icon ?
at least you have ideas. even if brain dead.
if you read middle east history, dating back to 3000 bc, you would see that you look like an earthly angel compared to there.
you havent seen turkish people yet. they dont even hold a calculator.
spinoza, rather not too ironically, laying the groundwork for the coming of age of reason, in a country that not only accepts him, but also takes his thoughts seriously. that country has been netherlands.
i trust people here. the people who regular this site are not your average joe and jill. they have better perception and cognitive judgment abilities.
you would make a great volunteer with that smarts of yours.
we all know that the mentioned causes and their effects exist, due to the examples we live and see in our daily lives.
so you invented something (slavery) that existed well over 5000 years.
read some history.
the lists STARTS with spinoza. go to wikipedia, search spinoza, read who he actually is, then keep on reading. you'll get stupefied with the sheer number of dutch names on the list that will grow in front of your eyes.
a little clue tho, for the sake of charity ; reading spinoza will start you on the subjects of Age of Reason, which evolves into Age of Enlightenment, which evolves into modern day societies and societal norms like freedom of speech, individual freedoms, equality and more.
since 15th century, dutch speaking countries (low countries) have led the world in modern and visionary concepts, in areas ranging from humanism to trade. erasmus, spinoza and more. and now this ....
a little big nation. kudos.
the problem is, when enough members of the society adopts a certain behavior pattern, that pattern gets stronger and stronger, and also affects those within the group too.
simple breakdown :
as more and more punks accept your proposal of badass heaven as a viable way of life, the application of power does not stop with those outside the group. people who follow the path of 'power' do not sit around a round table and distribute the spoils like good samaritans. the ones who are more powerful think they deserve and can take more, and a power struggle ensues. it goes on until all the participants think that they are on the highest level of power structure as they can get, and only then the system can work. and when it does, its a very inefficient system - more effort is spent in preserving the power structure than applying that power to outside sources for profit and gain. and since gains are unevenly distributed from top to bottom, the synergy that abundance creates does not happen.
as an example you can observe the current supposedly free market environment in united states. even though there are regulations, the power is aggregated by a few big groups that have increasingly more and more power, and eventually every other lesser group becomes an underdog. and these groups spend more cash for mergers, acquisitions, deals, licenses, buying laws, defending markets than they actually invest. result is, through a lot of side causes, and some last resort actions, the decline of us as an economy in contrast to europe, india and china, and the current economic crisis.
as can be understood from the example, such groups eventually kill themselves. OR, turn about.
the case of mutually beneficial, freedom and sharing based concepts is an easy one to talk about. you are living in apartments/houses in 21st century luxury, just because these thoughts have taken foothold, and a totally weak specie of hominoid monkeys have started to take care of their weak regardless of anything, and therefore have been able to develop skills that were not immediately needed for survival at that point in time, but later proved big technological advancements.
add to that the fact that throughout the course of history, it has been the more democratical, equalitarian, socially conscious, mutually beneficial relations-seeking groups and societies making big strides and achieving great things both for themselves and others, you can see the big picture. greek democracy, despite living in barren islands with little resources and little population, have bested and outlived many big empires that threatened them. same goes for republic of venice, dutch republic for centuries, and britains emerging as a big country from an obscure island through implementation of human rights and societal justice, and eventually the emergence of united states from a mere colony to a big nation.
all these have bested all kinds of badass wannabee, hardliner countries that threatened them.
of course, not that you were serious about what you were saying. its evident that you are being sarcastic, for noone can be that stupid.