it is indeed not an action by vigilante basement dwellers. however, it is an attack which is politically motivated, by other sources. 'criminal attack on private citizens' -> those circles have not given two shits about what world things about right, wrong, or legal/criminal. they didnt hesitate from taking down any government's secret service sites, or more. they havent got caught. there is nothing to be proud here ? well, i assure you those who pulled that out, have gained much honors in their own circle already. and again, they probably wouldnt give two shits about what you think. and no, regardless of what happens, they wont give two shits about what you think. so, save it.
I love how your implication is that there is this invisible almighty righteous army of hundreds of people just sitting around, entirely idle, with the experience to do encryption hardware hacking, the time and patience to do it (i.e. no job and/or social life), the desire to do it (as opposed to, I don't know, PLAYING FUCKING GAMES ON THE DAMN GAME CONSOLE
your description is actually quite correct. there is that invisible almighty righteous army of really hundreds of people, doing all those kinds of things, going about around the internet, with experience much more bigger than encrption hardware hacking, the time, and the patience and the will and drive to do it. and they DO play games on consoles and pc, and do more things. they dont even understand what you understand from 'social life' either.
that is the deep underground of the internet, and it is not even what you can see in demonstrations of chaos computer club, or other high level scenes. that is the level of underground of the internet that is so 'down and under' and to the extreme that, it is at a level that can make the hardliner government of israel change its mind about not letting a hacker convention take place in israel, just with a correspondence from one of them which could be summarized into a meaning like 'dont'.
yea. such people whom even most hardliner government of the planet does not want to upset, exists. both because upsetting one of them, is upsetting their entire circle, and keeping them happy means they can actually make use of them in these matters related to 'cyberspace'.
yea, they do have their own ethics. even stronger so than a normal man would have. however, their sense of right or wrong, probably doesnt overlap with yours, or mine. they move according to their own ethics and rules, and for good or for worse, you cant herd them through any means.
and on top of that, there are layers of layers of others which are increasingly less skilled and extreme, but more in numbers as levels go up.
pointless. endless such laws have been bought, widespread spying and warrantless wiretapping was instituted, 'anti terror' law bullshit was created to justify anything, yet, these hacks still happen.
such is the rule of internet underground since days of old. the worst anyone can do, is to create conditions for a crusade against themselves in regard to morals. after that, it doesnt matter who or what you are - they will hack you. and the ones doing the hacking wont be small fish.
the bigger the bastardry, the greater honors those who hack them gains in the internet underworld.
but who am i telling these to - anyone who had had participated in anything in the early stages of internet, knows these.
it IS ideological. hacking a gaming network is much less profitable and safe than acquiring credit card numbers through other means, and then charging them inconspicuous small amounts every month. which is the preferred way they do such things. chances are high that a lot of people have such fradulent charges in their cc statement. noticing requires people to check their statements and know their spendings.
those vulnerabilities were there for a long time. and they werent hacked until now. moreover, there are more profitable avenues to hack for money, than a fucking game network.
everyone is forced. in most countries there are laws prohibiting sales of computers without an operating system on it. and therefore most computers come with windows. you dont have a choice. you need to be tech savvy enough to ask for one with linux, and then do whatever you want to do with it. most users, have no idea what these are, most salespeople/companies do not want to hassle with after-sale support of a linux loaded computer to a non tech savvy person, and they just push windows even if it is an oem pc they are selling.
of course anything would do extremely well if you just buy out laws to force your operating system onto people by buying laws.
is it because people did migrate that windows xp still has 43% of share, whereas win 7 only has 34%, despite being pushed out by every new pc/laptop sold ?
next time you are going to cuss and spit shit, at least do it about something you at least know a little about.
considering most of the presence of new windows versions would come from windows being forcibly bundled by newly sold pcs, and not xp, it easily can be said that people did not MIGRATE to windows 7. even with this forced pushing, its share is still lower than its predecessor.
'most used os in united states' -> who gives a fuck. world is a 7 billion crowded place.
sure. but governments have sufficient budget to set up server farms/equipment to decrypt, and there are quite a many american corporations willing to sell them equipment and give them technical advice.
Since american corporations were so keen on providing spying/filtering equipment to even the regimes they were banned from trading (iran), all world governments have the ability to spy on all kinds of communications already.
it wouldnt matter zit, whether government is your email provider or not. either way, they will spy on you.
that - those who 'slash departments' always end up to be conservatives who want to give control of everything to private interests.
and no, the ideal of american revolution was not 'states rights'. it was PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. your country is in shambles because conservatives have successfully made you forget this.
i wouldnt pick anything from ayn rand if it was the last woman among the sea of transvestite sumo wrestlers and we were the last remaining people on the planet.
all produced from OUR technology and civilization which were entirely shaped by OUR cultural biases.
had our cultural biases been different, our technological approaches and means would be different too. see, for example we are just starting to use crystals/light as technology, actually in the very places of other technologies we used before. when all these technologies based on light/crystal interactions are advanced enough, they will definitely shape our culture and expectancies too. what if we had had started those earlier ? or, even, what if we did start out with renewable sources of energy naturally found on our planet ? and our entire manufacturing had been shaped with that ?
no - science and technology are not independent of societal biases. ALL kinds of approaches may reach the same ultimate point of whatever it will reach in some unknown future point in time, but, the path traveled would be different depending on bias. and that ultimate point seems infinitely far off for us.
once you let conservatives run a country for majority of 60 years, they seed all bureaucracy with their staunch supporters, and it becomes hard to weed them out - they keep making the same policies, and even if you order them to the contrary, they may ignore you. just like how in early stages of this administration, cia, nsa were gleefully ignoring no air strikes orders from white house for afghanistan. they were blatantly, openly ignoring orders, and nothing happened.
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Entire body of citizens, have legally became whores to the whim of corporate interests now ?
eeeuuuuuwww.
it is indeed not an action by vigilante basement dwellers. however, it is an attack which is politically motivated, by other sources. 'criminal attack on private citizens' -> those circles have not given two shits about what world things about right, wrong, or legal/criminal. they didnt hesitate from taking down any government's secret service sites, or more. they havent got caught. there is nothing to be proud here ? well, i assure you those who pulled that out, have gained much honors in their own circle already. and again, they probably wouldnt give two shits about what you think. and no, regardless of what happens, they wont give two shits about what you think. so, save it.
I love how your implication is that there is this invisible almighty righteous army of hundreds of people just sitting around, entirely idle, with the experience to do encryption hardware hacking, the time and patience to do it (i.e. no job and/or social life), the desire to do it (as opposed to, I don't know, PLAYING FUCKING GAMES ON THE DAMN GAME CONSOLE
your description is actually quite correct. there is that invisible almighty righteous army of really hundreds of people, doing all those kinds of things, going about around the internet, with experience much more bigger than encrption hardware hacking, the time, and the patience and the will and drive to do it. and they DO play games on consoles and pc, and do more things. they dont even understand what you understand from 'social life' either.
that is the deep underground of the internet, and it is not even what you can see in demonstrations of chaos computer club, or other high level scenes. that is the level of underground of the internet that is so 'down and under' and to the extreme that, it is at a level that can make the hardliner government of israel change its mind about not letting a hacker convention take place in israel, just with a correspondence from one of them which could be summarized into a meaning like 'dont'.
yea. such people whom even most hardliner government of the planet does not want to upset, exists. both because upsetting one of them, is upsetting their entire circle, and keeping them happy means they can actually make use of them in these matters related to 'cyberspace'.
yea, they do have their own ethics. even stronger so than a normal man would have. however, their sense of right or wrong, probably doesnt overlap with yours, or mine. they move according to their own ethics and rules, and for good or for worse, you cant herd them through any means.
and on top of that, there are layers of layers of others which are increasingly less skilled and extreme, but more in numbers as levels go up.
matrix ?
no. i just have been around when the internet was new back in 1993-1997
pointless. endless such laws have been bought, widespread spying and warrantless wiretapping was instituted, 'anti terror' law bullshit was created to justify anything, yet, these hacks still happen.
And you will create hundreds of new Geohots.
such is the rule of internet underground since days of old. the worst anyone can do, is to create conditions for a crusade against themselves in regard to morals. after that, it doesnt matter who or what you are - they will hack you. and the ones doing the hacking wont be small fish.
the bigger the bastardry, the greater honors those who hack them gains in the internet underworld.
but who am i telling these to - anyone who had had participated in anything in the early stages of internet, knows these.
it IS ideological. hacking a gaming network is much less profitable and safe than acquiring credit card numbers through other means, and then charging them inconspicuous small amounts every month. which is the preferred way they do such things. chances are high that a lot of people have such fradulent charges in their cc statement. noticing requires people to check their statements and know their spendings.
those vulnerabilities were there for a long time. and they werent hacked until now. moreover, there are more profitable avenues to hack for money, than a fucking game network.
there are much more profitable avenues to hack for money, than a fscking gaming network.
and these vulnerabilities were out and known for a long time. why they were not hacked until now ?
You have sued hotz, harassed those who modded/jailbroke your devices, suppressed hotz, and .....
'some' people basically handed your ass over to you in a different fashion ?
in the end, it seems you have annoyed far more dangerous circles in the internet hacker underground than the jailbreakers/mod hackers.
enjoy. and next time, remember that it is not good to treat people like cattle, and suppress/repress them.
"market share in the u.s."
everyone is forced. in most countries there are laws prohibiting sales of computers without an operating system on it. and therefore most computers come with windows. you dont have a choice. you need to be tech savvy enough to ask for one with linux, and then do whatever you want to do with it. most users, have no idea what these are, most salespeople/companies do not want to hassle with after-sale support of a linux loaded computer to a non tech savvy person, and they just push windows even if it is an oem pc they are selling.
of course anything would do extremely well if you just buy out laws to force your operating system onto people by buying laws.
i only reply to cuss words if they are mixed with ignorance unawares.
your shitty mouth does not deserve a response, but, still for the sake of those who read :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows
is it because people did migrate that windows xp still has 43% of share, whereas win 7 only has 34%, despite being pushed out by every new pc/laptop sold ?
next time you are going to cuss and spit shit, at least do it about something you at least know a little about.
xp is 42.9%, 7 is 34.1% even circa march 2011 according to below stats :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows
considering most of the presence of new windows versions would come from windows being forcibly bundled by newly sold pcs, and not xp, it easily can be said that people did not MIGRATE to windows 7. even with this forced pushing, its share is still lower than its predecessor.
'most used os in united states' -> who gives a fuck. world is a 7 billion crowded place.
people didnt even migrate to windows 7. they didnt even feel the need to. why a new windows version ?
So, if you allow intellectual feudalism, a feudal system that allows access to resources by a hierarchy of powerful, privileged few ?
why, that would be something new, if it did not happen in middle ages already.
sure. but governments have sufficient budget to set up server farms/equipment to decrypt, and there are quite a many american corporations willing to sell them equipment and give them technical advice.
deep packet inspection.
Since american corporations were so keen on providing spying/filtering equipment to even the regimes they were banned from trading (iran), all world governments have the ability to spy on all kinds of communications already.
it wouldnt matter zit, whether government is your email provider or not. either way, they will spy on you.
What about me, as a developer, or small business, or a member of the public ?
that - those who 'slash departments' always end up to be conservatives who want to give control of everything to private interests.
and no, the ideal of american revolution was not 'states rights'. it was PEOPLE'S RIGHTS. your country is in shambles because conservatives have successfully made you forget this.
i wouldnt pick anything from ayn rand if it was the last woman among the sea of transvestite sumo wrestlers and we were the last remaining people on the planet.
all produced from OUR technology and civilization which were entirely shaped by OUR cultural biases.
had our cultural biases been different, our technological approaches and means would be different too. see, for example we are just starting to use crystals/light as technology, actually in the very places of other technologies we used before. when all these technologies based on light/crystal interactions are advanced enough, they will definitely shape our culture and expectancies too. what if we had had started those earlier ? or, even, what if we did start out with renewable sources of energy naturally found on our planet ? and our entire manufacturing had been shaped with that ?
no - science and technology are not independent of societal biases. ALL kinds of approaches may reach the same ultimate point of whatever it will reach in some unknown future point in time, but, the path traveled would be different depending on bias. and that ultimate point seems infinitely far off for us.
hence the half assedness of approaches.
once you let conservatives run a country for majority of 60 years, they seed all bureaucracy with their staunch supporters, and it becomes hard to weed them out - they keep making the same policies, and even if you order them to the contrary, they may ignore you. just like how in early stages of this administration, cia, nsa were gleefully ignoring no air strikes orders from white house for afghanistan. they were blatantly, openly ignoring orders, and nothing happened.