None of the three users implicated in this case are American citizens. They are Australian/Swedish, Dutch, and Icelandic.
so ?
its ok to defile freedom of speech, principles, if the pursued are not citizens ? figures how u.s. govt is able to set up torture prisons in client countries.
if the association is public, a court doesnt have the need to go after that information. if there is more information than seems on the surface, it means there is private information in the matter.
that is totally leaving out the fact that noone has the right to persecute their OWN citizens for knowing what their OWN government is doing. period.
that court, is not pursuing people who are associated with New york times. new york times is just another outlet like wikileaks, which published that information.
they have to pursue all people who are affiliated with new york times too. but they arent doing it. that is the degree of bastardry and filth that has become the law in united states.
we need state secrets go because we do not live in a perfect world. in a perfect world there wouldnt be much difference in between having secrets or not.
in an imperfect world, state secrets become the tool to abuse societies.
States secrets cannot simply be shouted about because you happen to know them.
and that is precisely why that concept is being used for doing filth, and hiding it.
the damage done is much more than the benefit rendered. there shouldnt be any concept of 'state secret'.
if everyone knew everything there would be no way to do wrongdoing in any part of the world, by anybody, and a lot of the division we have would be unnecessary, including most of arms and armor.
What war crimes are you speaking of? Please, do tell.
torture ? kidnapping ? contracting torture prisons in 3rd party client states ?
He has put thousands of lives in jeopardy
What thousands of lives are you speaking of ? Please, do tell.
are you speaking of the lives of the cia personnel that kidnapped people, the bastards that set up torture prisons in client countries, or the whoresons who tortured people in those countries ? or the agents which arranged for killings and murders in iraq, afghanistan ?
noone gives two shits about lives of those people. they chose their path, and they were PAID for it.
its not freedom of the press - its freedom of speech.
if you dont have freedom to know, and talk about what you know, then it means that you dont have freedom of speech, period. no amount of legal beautifying can change that fact.
oh boy. one great display of freedom after another - freedom to commit war crimes and hide it from public that is. and it is not treason to commit war crimes behind the backs of the elected people - but to let people know it - or, even more, people TO know it.
While india doesnt join the talks. europe is against 75% of the core of the proposed crap. this kinda takes away approx ~5 billion population of the planet.
this entire piece of shit, is something the rich in usa is trying to push over entire world for their own benefit.
yet noone cares. yet, they still come yelping louder, after they have been openly refused.
and you apparently keep forgetting that acta was cooked up until 2006 in republican term, and when democrats took over, it was already in negotiations stage with canada.
bullshit. among politicians, right wingers are the ones who do not even expend effort to make their anti-people efforts at least appear by-the-book or to the benefit of the public. so, there is worse, of the bad.
It has worked very well with Union Carbide, Goldman Sachs, BP, and many more.
really. it works..... it works because organizations founded purely on the principle of profit, act against their potential profit, and think about the public first. they have high moral and ethical standards. and if they fail, they are accountable. because, corporations arent 'people', and the perpetrators of the failure can be punished. They never can just ditch the haywire corporation, and just start a new one with the immense profits - no, our system prevents that - you, sir, are accountable for all of your actions. you should remember that.
or, maybe these are only true in an alternate reality, and in the world we lived in, opposite of all of the above holds true.
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your questions will easily be answered if you go back and read the discussion. no need to repeat everything from the start.
None of the three users implicated in this case are American citizens. They are Australian/Swedish, Dutch, and Icelandic.
so ?
its ok to defile freedom of speech, principles, if the pursued are not citizens ? figures how u.s. govt is able to set up torture prisons in client countries.
naive are the ones who get fooled by 'for your own good' jargon and accept being dominated through 'state secret' excuse.
quite.
if the association is public, a court doesnt have the need to go after that information. if there is more information than seems on the surface, it means there is private information in the matter.
that is totally leaving out the fact that noone has the right to persecute their OWN citizens for knowing what their OWN government is doing. period.
that court, is not pursuing people who are associated with New york times. new york times is just another outlet like wikileaks, which published that information.
they have to pursue all people who are affiliated with new york times too. but they arent doing it. that is the degree of bastardry and filth that has become the law in united states.
point being ?
we need state secrets go because we do not live in a perfect world. in a perfect world there wouldnt be much difference in between having secrets or not.
in an imperfect world, state secrets become the tool to abuse societies.
States secrets cannot simply be shouted about because you happen to know them.
and that is precisely why that concept is being used for doing filth, and hiding it.
the damage done is much more than the benefit rendered. there shouldnt be any concept of 'state secret'.
if everyone knew everything there would be no way to do wrongdoing in any part of the world, by anybody, and a lot of the division we have would be unnecessary, including most of arms and armor.
power lines being brought down doesnt compare to nuclear fallout.
What war crimes are you speaking of? Please, do tell.
torture ? kidnapping ? contracting torture prisons in 3rd party client states ?
He has put thousands of lives in jeopardy
What thousands of lives are you speaking of ? Please, do tell.
are you speaking of the lives of the cia personnel that kidnapped people, the bastards that set up torture prisons in client countries, or the whoresons who tortured people in those countries ? or the agents which arranged for killings and murders in iraq, afghanistan ?
noone gives two shits about lives of those people. they chose their path, and they were PAID for it.
dont give us that crap.
its not freedom of the press - its freedom of speech.
if you dont have freedom to know, and talk about what you know, then it means that you dont have freedom of speech, period. no amount of legal beautifying can change that fact.
oh boy. one great display of freedom after another - freedom to commit war crimes and hide it from public that is. and it is not treason to commit war crimes behind the backs of the elected people - but to let people know it - or, even more, people TO know it.
if, after a natural disaster, an energy technology has the possibility of redoubling on that disaster, that technology is NOT safe.
quake devastated japan. but meltdown can make any percentage of it, a desolate wasteland. this may be a high percentage.
well, european parliament had basically banned anything that would resemble the terms of acta treaty :
http://votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=456&lang=en
Perhaps you haven't seen the breakdown of seats in the US Congress lately?
While india doesnt join the talks. europe is against 75% of the core of the proposed crap. this kinda takes away approx ~5 billion population of the planet.
this entire piece of shit, is something the rich in usa is trying to push over entire world for their own benefit.
yet noone cares. yet, they still come yelping louder, after they have been openly refused.
and you apparently keep forgetting that acta was cooked up until 2006 in republican term, and when democrats took over, it was already in negotiations stage with canada.
its rep production.
bullshit. among politicians, right wingers are the ones who do not even expend effort to make their anti-people efforts at least appear by-the-book or to the benefit of the public. so, there is worse, of the bad.
deceptive advertising, DESPITE they have advertised that they were not doing deceptive advertising.
am i seeing that you are not able to perceive what 'SINGLE PLAYER' means, or, is it an illusion ?
Actually, they also need to be sued for false advertising, or, scamming.
for, in effect, they had had ended up NOT having sold a product to someone, despite being paid for it.
swedish justice, has failed.
got enlarged to include 'money whore' ?
actually, if you are treating the small codebase i wrote as a 'framework', it shows the degree of drupal foolery.
what i coded is just an easy codebase. some of you fools are the ones dubbing it 'framework'. but hey, thanks.
It has worked very well with Union Carbide, Goldman Sachs, BP, and many more.
..... it works because organizations founded purely on the principle of profit, act against their potential profit, and think about the public first. they have high moral and ethical standards. and if they fail, they are accountable. because, corporations arent 'people', and the perpetrators of the failure can be punished. They never can just ditch the haywire corporation, and just start a new one with the immense profits - no, our system prevents that - you, sir, are accountable for all of your actions. you should remember that.
really. it works
or, maybe these are only true in an alternate reality, and in the world we lived in, opposite of all of the above holds true.