still wrong. repression, exploitation, clan structure, slavery are institutionalized in saudi arabia. in congo etc, at least you have the opportunity to take an ak47 and fight back, and some charade posing as a democratic presidency.
arent they. the real hacker underground is intertwined with open source. targeting the places where these crowds regular, is not something wise.
but morons which are dubbed as lawyers in some countries naturally would have no idea about that. they got too much used to bullying defenseless citizens through law.
i wonder what will they do to sony's online assets.
... to work with the private sector in the event of....
they got used to roundspeak and bullshit because you let them for all these years.
now all that passing an enemy-of-public bill requires is enough roundspeak, and sufficient number of catchphrases. (jobs, security, emergency, terrorism, nation, economy)
While there may not be any large independent media, each company does effectively operate independently. I doubt AOL Time Warner would particularly worry about publishing information damaging to News Corp, or vice versa.
wow. excuse me, but you are WAY too naive. and your focus is off.
aol time warner wouldnt worry about publishing information damaging to news corp. but, both would not publish information that would damage bigger interests of their holders. just like how they acted in conjunction with acta et al.
you have been conditioned/used to/with capitalist brutalism SO much that, anything that i s not similarly capitalist or self centered is too hard to believe.
your approach is incorrect. it assumes there exists no greater potential profit than exposing these leaks. it also forgets that, these leaks will not only harm the profits of the corporations which hold these news outlets through shareholderships or conglomerates, but directly hamper the individuals which own these on the top.
no megacorp will allow a syndicate under its reach to publish information that would damage billions of more profits in other sectors and guaranteed deals, dirty dealings, to gain a few hundred million more in advertising revenue. the advertising revenue, already comes in - there is nowhere else to advertise.
simply your approach assumes independent media. there is no such media.
japan with its 100+ million ? china with its 1 bil + ? india with its 1 bil+ ? russia with its 200 mil+ ? you wont find what you can find in middle east, in any of those countries, despite chinas oppression, russia's mafia, africa's brutality.
its just that anyone who was born from a muslim parent (either) was registered as muslim, regardless of what their parents had said. hence, 99% of the population ended up as muslim even if they were atheists or didnt care for anything. 20% of population goes from there. a majority of population doesnt care for religion much, it is only remembered when someone dies or born, and there goes another 30%. a 30-40% of the population follow islam, but not as radical as arabs. rest 10-20% are probably worse than arabs radicalism.
had islam been as strong here as arab countries, there would be no difference. even in this case there are a lot of backward practices. and attempts to islamicize the country.
and who will do its advertising, so that the mass media will HAVE to carry the leaks into the headlines ?
if you think material will just get carried into headlines and prime time news because of the contents, dont fool yourself - entire american public is unaware of what ACTA is, even as of now, despite it has been internationally fought over by all major players in the world. so, its indeed possible to keep public ignorant.
wikileaks is using the publicity assange generates through media and publicity stunts. in case you noticed, assange is always making the opening for a new leak a few weeks before it is published, and continuing to generate publicity for the upcoming leak.
you just dont create a dropbox and expect leaks to be seen by people. corporate contolled media WONT use it. they have successfully kept any potential leak in the dark since watergate, until wikileaks.
thats people's fault actually. they ascribe to the capitalist system, which places no restraints on how much economic power an individual or a group of individuals (or an entity in the name of a corporation) can get, then just expect the system to work as 'equals' in political spectrum too.
then they are being kept subdued through the system. it is the system that is the culprit here then. anyone subscribing to anything that system provides perpetuate the system .
however, now, they are able to find/hear/see whatever their government would prevent them from seeing/hearing, unlike how it was back when you were 15. there is internet.
you have various valid points. however, i am 35 years old, and i am seeing things you are not noticing yet. the world is already quite a different place when i was 15 years old.
for every one of people as such you arrest or attempt to repress, you generate thousands more of them in their image, by making them heroes as such in the others' eyes.
the time that people are suppressed by 'making an example of' any among them, are long past. 20-21st century generations become increasingly more rebellious as you attempt to repress them.
serves you right though. this is exactly what you should be doing.
with the exception of white hair, and rolled down socks. i hate rolled down socks. and my hair is not that white yet. im sure the description fits a lot of you here much more than you want to confess.
admit it. we are becoming a new species, new generations are. even some of the old generations are among us. thats why we dont fit in with the crap of this world, watching american idol and eating grease.
successfully trolled me. im a moron who is not able to know about what rape is, in general legalese, and learn about what it is in swedish legalese, and make a distinction from common sense in between.
its built on public land, but WE own the infrastructure and can decide what you can do with it.
this is what the ISPs say. they are attempting to do make monkeys out of the people, on people's land, with people's money, with people's rules.
still wrong. repression, exploitation, clan structure, slavery are institutionalized in saudi arabia. in congo etc, at least you have the opportunity to take an ak47 and fight back, and some charade posing as a democratic presidency.
arent they. the real hacker underground is intertwined with open source. targeting the places where these crowds regular, is not something wise.
but morons which are dubbed as lawyers in some countries naturally would have no idea about that. they got too much used to bullying defenseless citizens through law.
i wonder what will they do to sony's online assets.
they got used to roundspeak and bullshit because you let them for all these years.
now all that passing an enemy-of-public bill requires is enough roundspeak, and sufficient number of catchphrases. (jobs, security, emergency, terrorism, nation, economy)
our democracies are shams.
While there may not be any large independent media, each company does effectively operate independently. I doubt AOL Time Warner would particularly worry about publishing information damaging to News Corp, or vice versa.
wow. excuse me, but you are WAY too naive. and your focus is off.
aol time warner wouldnt worry about publishing information damaging to news corp. but, both would not publish information that would damage bigger interests of their holders. just like how they acted in conjunction with acta et al.
[b]Rogue[/b] admin will come stealthed in the dark and stab you from behind. * shadööwwwwww * (skillz)
you have been conditioned/used to/with capitalist brutalism SO much that, anything that i s not similarly capitalist or self centered is too hard to believe.
your approach is incorrect. it assumes there exists no greater potential profit than exposing these leaks. it also forgets that, these leaks will not only harm the profits of the corporations which hold these news outlets through shareholderships or conglomerates, but directly hamper the individuals which own these on the top.
no megacorp will allow a syndicate under its reach to publish information that would damage billions of more profits in other sectors and guaranteed deals, dirty dealings, to gain a few hundred million more in advertising revenue. the advertising revenue, already comes in - there is nowhere else to advertise.
simply your approach assumes independent media. there is no such media.
japan with its 100+ million ? china with its 1 bil + ? india with its 1 bil+ ? russia with its 200 mil+ ? you wont find what you can find in middle east, in any of those countries, despite chinas oppression, russia's mafia, africa's brutality.
its just that anyone who was born from a muslim parent (either) was registered as muslim, regardless of what their parents had said. hence, 99% of the population ended up as muslim even if they were atheists or didnt care for anything. 20% of population goes from there. a majority of population doesnt care for religion much, it is only remembered when someone dies or born, and there goes another 30%. a 30-40% of the population follow islam, but not as radical as arabs. rest 10-20% are probably worse than arabs radicalism.
had islam been as strong here as arab countries, there would be no difference. even in this case there are a lot of backward practices. and attempts to islamicize the country.
rest of the world isnt like that. you have no idea how it is around these parts.
and who will do its advertising, so that the mass media will HAVE to carry the leaks into the headlines ?
if you think material will just get carried into headlines and prime time news because of the contents, dont fool yourself - entire american public is unaware of what ACTA is, even as of now, despite it has been internationally fought over by all major players in the world. so, its indeed possible to keep public ignorant.
wikileaks is using the publicity assange generates through media and publicity stunts. in case you noticed, assange is always making the opening for a new leak a few weeks before it is published, and continuing to generate publicity for the upcoming leak.
you just dont create a dropbox and expect leaks to be seen by people. corporate contolled media WONT use it. they have successfully kept any potential leak in the dark since watergate, until wikileaks.
openleaks must find a way to make advertising.
the rest which is distributing those keys like there's no tomorrow as of this moment ?
well. we will see.
thats people's fault actually. they ascribe to the capitalist system, which places no restraints on how much economic power an individual or a group of individuals (or an entity in the name of a corporation) can get, then just expect the system to work as 'equals' in political spectrum too.
if you are not going into creativity/working routines that cause you to go unbathed for days, i dont think you would classify as nerd/geek.
then they are being kept subdued through the system. it is the system that is the culprit here then. anyone subscribing to anything that system provides perpetuate the system .
however, now, they are able to find/hear/see whatever their government would prevent them from seeing/hearing, unlike how it was back when you were 15. there is internet.
you have various valid points. however, i am 35 years old, and i am seeing things you are not noticing yet. the world is already quite a different place when i was 15 years old.
keep on trolling me.
okay.
"species". im becoming a new species. SPECIES !
may he get well quick. if he puts out 2 more good movies like the ones in lotr series, he will be doing good to all of us.
for every one of people as such you arrest or attempt to repress, you generate thousands more of them in their image, by making them heroes as such in the others' eyes.
the time that people are suppressed by 'making an example of' any among them, are long past. 20-21st century generations become increasingly more rebellious as you attempt to repress them.
serves you right though. this is exactly what you should be doing.
with the exception of white hair, and rolled down socks. i hate rolled down socks. and my hair is not that white yet. im sure the description fits a lot of you here much more than you want to confess.
admit it. we are becoming a new species, new generations are. even some of the old generations are among us. thats why we dont fit in with the crap of this world, watching american idol and eating grease.
successfully trolled me. im a moron who is not able to know about what rape is, in general legalese, and learn about what it is in swedish legalese, and make a distinction from common sense in between.
please, troll me again.