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NYTimes On Dealings With Assange
kaapstorm found an NYT story on Assange saying "Assange slouched into The Guardian office, a day late. Schmitt took his first measure of the man who would be a large presence in our lives. 'He's tall — probably 6-foot-2 or 6-3 — and lanky, with pale skin, gray eyes and a shock of white hair that seizes your attention,' Schmitt wrote to me later. 'He was alert but disheveled, like a bag lady walking in off the street, wearing a dingy, light-colored sport coat and cargo pants, dirty white shirt, beat-up sneakers and filthy white socks that collapsed around his ankles. He smelled as if he hadn't bathed in days.'"
You see? Assange is dirty and smelly; he can't be trusted! Real heroes look and smell fantastic!
May the Maths Be with you!
Thanks for sticking to the important stuff!
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...character assassination!? Piping hot character assassination? Get em while they're hot! You Sir? Some nice hot character assassination for the little lady?
it really makes you wonder what "incentive" he was given, and by WHO.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
He sounds like a regular Howard Hughes...a man to be respected for his accomplishments.
for a man essentially in hiding, trying to avoid being extradited to an unfriendly (to him) country, which happens to have one of the most robust intelligence arms in the world.
Can't read TFA as a NYTimes account is required to access (where are the link tags? They're too helpful to exclude in the new layout/design).
Despite your politics I think you can appreciate the gravity of such a situation and how the attributable paranoia and personal apprehension may manifest itself within an individual.
Opinion:=TMyOpinion.Create(Me);
successfully trolled me. im a moron who is not able to know about what rape is, in general legalese, and learn about what it is in swedish legalese, and make a distinction from common sense in between.
please, troll me again.
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with the exception of white hair, and rolled down socks. i hate rolled down socks. and my hair is not that white yet. im sure the description fits a lot of you here much more than you want to confess.
admit it. we are becoming a new species, new generations are. even some of the old generations are among us. thats why we dont fit in with the crap of this world, watching american idol and eating grease.
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Funny that, the New York Times and The Guardian pissing on the guy doing the job they failed to do.
fuck you both. fuck you both very hard.
does anyone have a link to tfa? article link is broken (not just slashdotted)
From the article:
What's with all the NYT articles getting through? Are we going to be syndicating Fox News articles as well soon?
instead of getting out and breaking stories the nyt spends all their time with stories of no consequence. And they wonder why people are dumping reading it.
Because only tall people accomplish stuff, in the minds of Americans. This is an edge for him to appeal sexy.
The Wikileaks-Assanage-Manning debacle could prove to he Obama's Watergate.
The intent of the "suicide" watch on Pfc Manning is to obtain his suicide; Gates+Obama+DOJ have broken copious laws and need Manning to kill himself in order to get them off the hook.
We need to know the secret Executive Orders Obama has issued regarding Assanage and Wikilieaks.
The next 25 months will be as intersting as the Tet Offinsive + the Plumbers + Nixon Impeachment and Resignation.
Great stuff like this does not come often enough.
-308
PS. An independent investigation has discovered that Wikileaks broke no Laws (Iceland at least) and no rules of Mastercard!
This asks the question, "Should Mastercard be sued by Wikileaks for breach of contract and libel (Assanage et al.) and defamation?".
Oh Boy! Here we go!
Will Obama be called as witness to defend his executive orders?
Let us hope so!
Now trying to discredit Assange, stay classy NYT!
Not that I read the article, but I think it's about time that Schmitt meets Stallman. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
no, I will NOT login to their stupid site.
either post a free-in-the-clear article or don't post NYT links at all. if they don't WANT to be linked to, fine.
but if they want a link, they have to cease the stupid games.
if you MUST link to nyt, at least quote enough of the text for us to get the point.
(still better to just assume NYT does not exist; that's what they basically think of us 'freeloaders')
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"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
Assange sounds like a fantasist who got so caught up in his obsessions he lost contact with reality and his ability to identify with people. Beneath the flash exterior he sounds like a very sad and lonely man. No wonder he bought into his own hype and women made allegations that suggest he couldn't control his sexual drive. I get the feeling that Assange is picking on the great bogeyman, America, because he feels frustrated and insecure.
The fantasy of being a puppet master who created a new order and sense of togetherness in that endeavour was just that, a fantasy. And as his effort failed so he's being cast aside as just a source. Not a puppet master. Not even a partner. Just another big mouth with a keyboard who got lucky. Now the well is dry and his threats have landed with all the strength of a punch from an old woman he has nothing.
... is that people who can't be bothered to look after themselves and even wash are generally lazy and not really interested in details. Which arn't attributes you want in someone who has a load of confidential potentially life threatening documents in his possession.
Cue toll mods from wikileaks fanbois...
part of me wants my hero to be fresh as a lilly, defiant as a warrior monk and rigid as an arrow in the face of his accusers and the public at large; its what ive been taught makes a hero. This juxtaposition questions my definition of hero, moreso than my conviction to assanges purpose and cause. When i watched the film "Hancock" i had no problem suspending disbelief that a homeless wino could save the day and yet now, with the very same faculty as was present in the theatre i seem to doubt assange?
Thanks to the NYT for showing me "Assange." he isnt invincible, he isnt iron clad and he certainly isnt perfect. Assange is just a guy who decided truth was important, despite some very real dangers he would face. Seeing him, socks around his ankles and all, lets me conclude that i dont care much if he's incarcerated until the clothes rot from his body. WikiLeaks was my hero the entire time, i had just applied a face to it out of convenience.
Good people go to bed earlier.
I've heard this "threesome" rumor before, but as far as I know, there was no threesome. There were two women, and Assange, but the two women did not know about each other. There was no threesome. This is just a rumor meant to paint the women as slutty opportunists. I don't know whether they are telling the truth, but I know you aren't.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
He smelled as if he hadn't bathed in days.
...he was French. Seems they ARE leaking new information about Assanage.
That story sounds corny as hell. It sounds more like opinion than news, it's like I'm reading a fictional novel. What exactly is this doing in a newspaper?
That's where the New York times belongs, along with this dirt bag.
"Introducing the Realtime Consent Monitor!
This is a personal device worn on the body that manages one's personal space. If the user desires intimate contact, the setting would be set to 0-distance tolerated. However, if during the act she decides she no longer consents, she can toggle the setting so that further close proximity creates a warning."
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Everyone seems to forget that Julian Assange is just a credit-stealing con-man.
Bradley Manning put his career, and possibly his life (if convicted of treason) at risk to collect material to expose the treachery and hypocrisy he saw within US dealings with foreign powers - especially the recent wars. Whereas Julian Assange simply put the material on a webstie, then stole all the glory. /. crowd likes Assange better because he adopts the costume of an anti-authority web sophisticate, whereas Manning wore a uniform.
Assange even put up a website supposedly devoted to raising money for Manning's legal defense - then kept the money.
And it is looking like the rape charges against Assange may be real.
BUT - the
IMHO - Assange is a sleazy narcissistic con-man, and Bradley Manning is the unsung hero of this story.
...counter opinions?
Smooth liquid cool counter opinions?
Soo nice and cool to go with your piping hot character assassination?
No propaganda is complete without some counter opinions to go with your character assassination!
It's got META particles to keep the propaganda going 50% longer than normal propaganda!
That was what we were taught - the lower classes smell. And here, obviously, you are at an impassable barrier. For no feeling of like or dislike is quite so fundamentalas a physical feeling. Race hatred, religious hatred, differences of education, of temperament, of intellect, even differences of moral code, can be got over; but physical repulsion cannot.
Orwell, in The Road to Wigan Pier
To the MAX!
I read the 9 pages of that articles yesterday and was immediately attacked by a severe case of smug-itis.
== hero, if you are looking for one. Wikileaks would have continued to be WikiWho? without him.
Plus, Manning _will_ go to jail, possibly forever.
Assange....not so much.
Assange is more of a hacker version of Paris Hilton.
The NY Times, the finest of the finest journalism you'll find anywhere.
Can we forget the "journalism" and just get back to reporting?
By this time, The Times’s relationship with our source had gone from wary to hostile. I talked to Assange by phone a few times and heard out his complaints. He was angry that we declined to link our online coverage of the War Logs to the WikiLeaks Web site, a decision we made because we feared — rightly, as it turned out — that its trove would contain the names of low-level informants and make them Taliban targets.
The Times is claiming that "it turned out" that Wikileaks made people targets to the Taliban?
But the Pentagon dropped that pretense back in summer 2010! What the hell, The Times?
You can't take the sky from me...
Seems strange that this whole affair somehow got turned around to a discussion on the morality of Wikileaks and Julian himself, and the truly important matters are carefully left to one side.
I don't believe a word the NYT writes
Adrian betrayed them all. Script kiddies....
New York Times, 'natch!
The writer makes it out to be Assange's fault that their excel database didn't include all the files....then says Assange is a 'computer geek' for being the only person in a room full of professional reporters to identify and fix the problem. Then the nytimes has to get two 'wizards' so they can make the files searchable..anyone who knows perl should be able to do this with 1 or 2 commands right? These two bits tell me the nytimes reporters are seriously ignorant when it comes to IT, and these are the top guys who are responsible for gathering and checking information there. idiots.