Except that it's the wrong kind of love. Philos is a good love. Eros is a lustful love, a jackass that didn't understand Greek named it. A pedophile would be more like a doctor. They care about children.
You seem to have confused the word paedophile with the words sadist, rapist, and molester. Please consult your dictionary, note the meanings of the words and compare them, then try again, this time not blaming the dictionary for your lack of understanding.
...has delisted the site that was informing the public of these issues, Inquistion21.com at the request of the FBI and other child pornographers! Yeah, that's right I called the FBI a bunch of child pornographers, because chances are nine times out of ten whenever you come across a site offering child porn its being run as an entrapment scam by various government officials. The other time, the one out of ten tends to be a site that's being falsely colluded into being child porn, like the whole webe web case. Since when does wearing a swimsuit become porn?
As another poster has already pointed out, this is just another example of thought crime and those who wish to use it as a bid to take more control over the lives of others.
>>Ever watch those dateline shows where they catch
>>the would-be child molesters? If yes, did you notice
>>that many of these men send the victim porn?
Protip: That's a MAN, baby!
Or to put it another way, in the Dateline Shows there are no victims. What there are is vigilantes making a buck on the back of hysterical parents who believe everything they see on so called 'Info-tainment' News Shows. If you look, you'll see there's more entertainment than information in that description and it's that way for a reason. There is more focus on entertaining than there is on getting the facts straight.
For one thing, many of those who were caught via Perverted Justice's Dateline 'Info-tainment' antics were let off with nearly no punishment....
Given the government has suspended habeus corpus, and what we know of the many abuses which occurred the LAST time this happened, this doesn't surprise me at all.
Why fight when your enemy can change the rules of engagement on a whim? Why fight a battle which cannot be won? How many people are still in custody without trial despite the ACLU's best efforts?
The post I'm replying to is over-rated; the grandparent post was mentioning some of the unwanted consequences which could occur if a group of vigilantes decided to register several thousand accounts in the names of sex offenders, NOT about whatever actual sex offenders might be on the site.
Given the current hysteria where all men are considered to be paedophiles these days, perhaps the anonymous coward might want to rethink his position? Like it or not innocent people do go to jail for crimes the did not commit. There are also untold numbers of children on the sex offender registries for simple child sex play; should they also have to pay the price of being banned from their peers?
Is your need to punish so great you're willing to allow even the innocent to go to prison to saite your lust for vengeance? Take another look at what you wrote and reconsider! I certainly hope who ever modded this as 'insightful' was joking or trying to illustrate the POV that would cause vigilantes to take such actions...
In a scene right out of Spielberg's vision of Philip K. Dick's classic short story the state of Ohio has established a pre-crime registry for sex offenders--even if they've never been charged with a crime!
I can't wait to see how this is going to affect the current trend that has divorcing women making false accusations against their husbands during the custody phase of proceedings! Then there's the way this (being that it is a civil matter) can be expanded to encompass so many other things...
Could this new registry be away for the homophobic to reverse the trends towards civil rights homosexuals have achieved in recent years? What about the affect this can have on children engaged in normal sex play for their ages? I'm reminded of Ryan Zylstra, Leah DuBuc, Laura M. Wilcox, Genarlow Wilson and other teenagers and children who have had their lives ruined by this type of hysteria and the lack of due process that comes with it. And who can forget the vigilantes who murder people they find on these lists? People like William Elliott, who was placed on the registry at age nineteen for having sex with his two weeks shy of sixteen year old girlfriend and thanks to the registry murdered.
Now they want a civil registry they can place people on without the benefit of a conviction or a jury trial? Next thing you know they'll be pushing for a pink triangle on your ID! Oh wait... Well just remember that when you give up your rights one by one, you're doing it for the children....
I'm posting the original submission because I believe anyone who follows the links here will see quite clearly how bad this is even beyond the usual Constitutional violations. This is a law that will harm the very same people it purports to protect!
I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.
On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.
An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?
Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???
Isn't interesting how some people think just by naming us Paedophiles we should have no voices whatsoever? There is none so blind nor deaf as those who will not listen or look because they need no distractions from what they've already decided the truth to be! One of the biggest benefits of anonymity is the ability to speak what one has to say without worrying that someone will attempt to silence you permanently...
Too bad the Rind report could have been released anonymously, perhaps if it had been the Congress who did not actually READ the report would have wasted their time searching for the author's idenities rather than censuring the report for discovering politically unpalatable truths? Perhaps while the hunt was on in search of anonymous scientists, people would have actually decided to read and test the science of the work submitted instead of condemning the study for not having already predetermined its outcome? Maybe we'd be discussing ways to help each other and children instead of simply feuling the Paedophile hysteria?
Nah...that'd be too easy! Why waste your time attempting to combat the 78.5% of all child sex abusers when we can instead target only the 3.9% stranger danger cases? In fact, despite knowing since-- like forever --the real abuse is almost predominately coming from dear old Dad and Mummy, let's focus entirely on people who look at pictures over the internet. Or those who like to read sexy stories.... after all "the potential that the written word may encourage someone to act out what they've read" is there! Or we could perhaps focus our attentions on those sick sick people who like to make pseudo-photographs, and put them away for up to 15 years for what ammounts to a thoughtcrime?!? Or how about those who'd like to push for a constitutional amendment taking away the fundamental right of being able to confront one's accusers?
Nope, I don't see any reason why people like us would want to be anonymous. Even those who break no laws but have 'come out of the toy box' as being Paederotic in orientation face all kinds of death threats by people who assume the worst sight unseen! What's worse is they feel no need to do even the most basic of research either, because they already know they're right....
--I*LoveGreen*Olives
PS: I too am a Paedosexual. This should come as no surprise to anyone who clicks on my webpage link to read my blog. Being Paedosexual does not in any way negate any of what I've said above. Nor should anyone see my sexual orientation as being an excuse to attack, defame or otherwise limit my right to exist as a human being-- the laws they create to 'deal' with me and other Paedophiles are the same laws they'll use on you later....
For all we know they've been doing this for years already anyway.
Who here (Alt OS users put your hands down) runs their system without a virus scanner?
How do we *know* all the scanner does is look for viruses? For all we know it also matches mp3s by MD5 checksums and confirms that copy of XYZ Pro is legit! We've become so accustomed to running a virus scanner and scanning everything before opening it, someone could easily integrate this type of functionality into the major virus scanners and no one would be the wiser.
Isn't this your own fault for being accused a witch?
Maybe if people would stop feeding the hysteria then the situation wouldn't be as much a kiss of death as it now stands. Don't expect much sympathy if you're ever accused of being a paedophile-- the current practice is to pretend thoughtcrime is more important than any actions on your part --it is the seriousness of the acusation that matters. Once accused of being a witch you will forever be under suspion of practicing witchcraft no matter the truth one way or another.
I screwed up! The links somehow got "h t t p : / / y r o . s l a s h d o t . o r g/" added to them in the part that lists the various racists sites being hosted and considered 'okay' by GoDaddy.
Meh...Not like it matters because no one from here would want to go there right?
Still mea culpa, my mistake...I'm sorry about this!::blushes::
This isn't the first time GoDaddy has arbitarily done things like this....
Lindsay Ashford, a promient memeber of the Paedophile community was once registered with GoDaddy until they started to
yank his chain and play games with him using Section Seven of their Domain Registration Agreement--specifically the bit about morally objectionable activities. Lindsay was given 24 hours in which to move the site (which he began to do) only to be informed via email the change over was blocked from GoDaddy's end without explaination. The strange thing is while there was never any child porn or illegal content on puellula.comand GoDaddy never explained their actions, the site was also home to many racists and extremists hate sites that were apparently never a problem. It finally took a complaint from Lindsay to ICAAN before the domains were finally restored to him!
GoDaddy is run by people who see no evil in groups such as: Skinheads, Hammerskins, Aryan Nations, White Camelia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Ku Klux Klan all whom were still registered with GoDaddy as of roughly this time last year. Given the legal wrangling it took to get the company to turn over the domain names to their proper owners, why would anyone be surprised when they decide to dip into the extortion racket?
Do yourself a favor and find a domain register who is willing to take care of their customers and isn't run by a bunch of racists who think we haven't done enough torture on the Guantanamo Bay prisioners!
I mean for the love of Ghu, does everyone working in United States politics have Mental Dysponexia? Everything in the news these days in about the '3\/1|_ Internet Pedofiles' does nothing else go in in this country? Are there no other big issues?
This type of thing is little more than a distraction, a ruse to make people willingly abandon their rights one by one in order to fight a menace that doesn't even exist. Not to say that there aren't people meeting each other through myspace and things happen--but certainly there aren't enough people out there using myspace and internet chat rooms to seek out children to justify this kind of response. I believe in psychology they call this 'denial' and 'avoidance' so what exactly is it we so desperately wish to deny or ignore?
We're trying to ignore that the problemisn'tsome stranger over the internet--it's Daddy!
The numbers are clear: well over 50% of child abusecases are are ones where the perpetrator was a parent and of the percentage remaining, overwhelmingly the perpetrator was a person in authority or well known to the child and the family. This isn't about strangers over the internet, its about pretending that everything is alright at home--well its not!
Where is this MAA (..a little inside humor there..Heh..) on the incest exemption laws is what I want to know! Why is it that legally a man who rapes his daughter can have state financed retrieval services, get less time in prison if caught, #### he can even get conjugal visits with the child if his wife is made the guardian...and yet if a guy and a girl meet online and eventually start a relationship and all that entails the law punishes him ten times the degree that it does Daddy? Oh wait, I forgot--Pay No Attention To Daddy! Silly me! I know, let's all forget about Daddy and watch Dateline pick up another group of gullible idiots! That'll take our mind off things!
--I*Love*Green*Olives (sitting in a golf car with OJ looking for the 'real' killers...)
PS: I type this using the wrong account name the first time!:blushes: But it was really me both times!
Being that Cheap Trick likely signed a contract with Sony in the early 90's (and SONY has changed management how many times since then?) couldn't it be argued that the organization Cheap Trick signed their contracts with no longer exists?
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--I*Love*Green*Olives
As another poster has already pointed out, this is just another example of thought crime and those who wish to use it as a bid to take more control over the lives of others.
--I*Love*Green*Olives
>>Ever watch those dateline shows where they catch >>the would-be child molesters? If yes, did you notice >>that many of these men send the victim porn?
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Protip: That's a MAN, baby!
Or to put it another way, in the Dateline Shows there are no victims. What there are is vigilantes making a buck on the back of hysterical parents who believe everything they see on so called 'Info-tainment' News Shows. If you look, you'll see there's more entertainment than information in that description and it's that way for a reason. There is more focus on entertaining than there is on getting the facts straight.
For one thing, many of those who were caught via Perverted Justice's Dateline 'Info-tainment' antics were let off with nearly no punishment....
http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?art
Think about it, and ask yourself just how useful a tool these shows are if they have such flawed outcomes?
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Given the government has suspended habeus corpus, and what we know of the many abuses which occurred the LAST time this happened, this doesn't surprise me at all.
Why fight when your enemy can change the rules of engagement on a whim? Why fight a battle which cannot be won? How many people are still in custody without trial despite the ACLU's best efforts?
America is dead. Long Live America.
--I*Love*Green*Olives
The post I'm replying to is over-rated; the grandparent post was mentioning some of the unwanted consequences which could occur if a group of vigilantes decided to register several thousand accounts in the names of sex offenders, NOT about whatever actual sex offenders might be on the site.
Given the current hysteria where all men are considered to be paedophiles these days, perhaps the anonymous coward might want to rethink his position? Like it or not innocent people do go to jail for crimes the did not commit. There are also untold numbers of children on the sex offender registries for simple child sex play; should they also have to pay the price of being banned from their peers?
Is your need to punish so great you're willing to allow even the innocent to go to prison to saite your lust for vengeance? Take another look at what you wrote and reconsider! I certainly hope who ever modded this as 'insightful' was joking or trying to illustrate the POV that would cause vigilantes to take such actions...
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Ohio Creates 'Pre-Crime' Sex Offender Registry
In a scene right out of Spielberg's vision of Philip K. Dick's classic short story the state of Ohio has established a pre-crime registry for sex offenders--even if they've never been charged with a crime!
"The person's name, address, and photograph would be placed on a new Internet database and the person would be subjected to the same registration and community notification requirements and restrictions on where he could live."
I can't wait to see how this is going to affect the current trend that has divorcing women making false accusations against their husbands during the custody phase of proceedings! Then there's the way this (being that it is a civil matter) can be expanded to encompass so many other things...
Could this new registry be away for the homophobic to reverse the trends towards civil rights homosexuals have achieved in recent years? What about the affect this can have on children engaged in normal sex play for their ages? I'm reminded of Ryan Zylstra, Leah DuBuc, Laura M. Wilcox, Genarlow Wilson and other teenagers and children who have had their lives ruined by this type of hysteria and the lack of due process that comes with it. And who can forget the vigilantes who murder people they find on these lists? People like William Elliott, who was placed on the registry at age nineteen for having sex with his two weeks shy of sixteen year old girlfriend and thanks to the registry murdered.
Now they want a civil registry they can place people on without the benefit of a conviction or a jury trial? Next thing you know they'll be pushing for a pink triangle on your ID! Oh wait... Well just remember that when you give up your rights one by one, you're doing it for the children....
I'm posting the original submission because I believe anyone who follows the links here will see quite clearly how bad this is even beyond the usual Constitutional violations. This is a law that will harm the very same people it purports to protect!
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Who says they haven't already done so?
They had no problems getting and backdating the authorization to spy on phone calls some weeks before 9-11; what's different in this situation?
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Please, tell me!
I'd really love to see it in black and white.
I've seen G-d address many many things in the Bible. I've seen it written that clams, oysters, crabs, lobsters, and shrimp are 'abominations' seen G-d discuss in explict detail the care and cleaning of cum-stains, and chuckled helplessly as G-d explained the reason why latrines are a good idea. (HINT: no one wants to step in it.) I have sat open mouthed at the explict sexual violence depicted in the allegory of Ezekiel 23 and grinned at the biblical account of G-d's plan to 'moon' his chosen people in the 'day of their calamity' and stood there perplexed as I read how G-d commanded a man to knowingly marry a whore.
On the other hand, I've also read where Lot gets drunk, has incest with both of his daughters on alternate evenings and for this he is considered a 'righeteous man'? Oh my bad...that'd be in the New Testament and by your choice of spelling G-d you are apparently Jewish. Well, let's press on shall we? Moses in the book of Numbers declares genocide against captives of war and tells the army to kill all the men and women, excepting only the young virginal girls . Later in Deuteronomy more explicit instructions are given, where G-d makes it clear he sees nothing wrong with making whores out of the captives of war and discarding them when bored of them.
An interesting thing to note about these two instances of scripture is the words used in describing these virgins relates to their way of walking... the way they 'toddle' making a clear age distinction here. This is what so many Muslims are referring to when they say Judiasm supports Paedophilia, as well as their pointing to various clarifications of these rules in the Talmud where the age is spelled out as three years old(!) Then there's the erotic descriptions of the Song of Solomon, where a love affair begins between an older man and a younger girl, evidenced by the way the girl's brothers comment: "We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts[...]" Should I also add that in the book of Judges Samson's father-in-law gives away his first wife to a friend and offers him the younger daughter, because she's nicer looking?
Those few bits aside there is no explict mention of Paedophilia in the Bible. At ALL. In fact you could even say the combination of the passage n Numbers and the passage in Deuteronomy work out towards an endorsement of Nepiophilia... But there is seemingly no mention of this modern scourage that is classified as the 'worst possible sin' in the Bible. This horrid evil thing that kills souls gets no mention, and yet G-d makes the time to talk about how much he hates shellfish and shrimp. G-d manages to find time to explain how to clean the cum-stains off your clothes in the event of a wet dream, manages to explain he doesn't like stepping in shit, and tell dirty stories about whoring sisters and their hung like a horse johns, yet he somehow fails to take the time out to talk about Paedophilia???
Sorry, I'm
Hey Baldur!
Isn't interesting how some people think just by naming us Paedophiles we should have no voices whatsoever? There is none so blind nor deaf as those who will not listen or look because they need no distractions from what they've already decided the truth to be! One of the biggest benefits of anonymity is the ability to speak what one has to say without worrying that someone will attempt to silence you permanently...
Too bad the Rind report could have been released anonymously, perhaps if it had been the Congress who did not actually READ the report would have wasted their time searching for the author's idenities rather than censuring the report for discovering politically unpalatable truths? Perhaps while the hunt was on in search of anonymous scientists, people would have actually decided to read and test the science of the work submitted instead of condemning the study for not having already predetermined its outcome? Maybe we'd be discussing ways to help each other and children instead of simply feuling the Paedophile hysteria?
Nah...that'd be too easy! Why waste your time attempting to combat the 78.5% of all child sex abusers when we can instead target only the 3.9% stranger danger cases? In fact, despite knowing since-- like forever --the real abuse is almost predominately coming from dear old Dad and Mummy, let's focus entirely on people who look at pictures over the internet. Or those who like to read sexy stories.... after all "the potential that the written word may encourage someone to act out what they've read" is there! Or we could perhaps focus our attentions on those sick sick people who like to make pseudo-photographs, and put them away for up to 15 years for what ammounts to a thoughtcrime?!? Or how about those who'd like to push for a constitutional amendment taking away the fundamental right of being able to confront one's accusers?
Nope, I don't see any reason why people like us would want to be anonymous. Even those who break no laws but have 'come out of the toy box' as being Paederotic in orientation face all kinds of death threats by people who assume the worst sight unseen! What's worse is they feel no need to do even the most basic of research either, because they already know they're right....
--I*LoveGreen*Olives
PS: I too am a Paedosexual. This should come as no surprise to anyone who clicks on my webpage link to read my blog. Being Paedosexual does not in any way negate any of what I've said above. Nor should anyone see my sexual orientation as being an excuse to attack, defame or otherwise limit my right to exist as a human being-- the laws they create to 'deal' with me and other Paedophiles are the same laws they'll use on you later....
For all we know they've been doing this for years already anyway.
Who here (Alt OS users put your hands down) runs their system without a virus scanner?
How do we *know* all the scanner does is look for viruses? For all we know it also matches mp3s by MD5 checksums and confirms that copy of XYZ Pro is legit! We've become so accustomed to running a virus scanner and scanning everything before opening it, someone could easily integrate this type of functionality into the major virus scanners and no one would be the wiser.
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Isn't this your own fault for being accused a witch?
Maybe if people would stop feeding the hysteria then the situation wouldn't be as much a kiss of death as it now stands. Don't expect much sympathy if you're ever accused of being a paedophile-- the current practice is to pretend thoughtcrime is more important than any actions on your part --it is the seriousness of the acusation that matters. Once accused of being a witch you will forever be under suspion of practicing witchcraft no matter the truth one way or another.
--I*Love*Green*Olives
I screwed up! The links somehow got "h t t p : / / y r o . s l a s h d o t . o r g /" added to them in the part that lists the various racists sites being hosted and considered 'okay' by GoDaddy.
Meh...Not like it matters because no one from here would want to go there right?
Still mea culpa, my mistake...I'm sorry about this! ::blushes::
--I*Love*Green*Olives
Lindsay Ashford, a promient memeber of the Paedophile community was once registered with GoDaddy until they started to yank his chain and play games with him using Section Seven of their Domain Registration Agreement--specifically the bit about morally objectionable activities. Lindsay was given 24 hours in which to move the site (which he began to do) only to be informed via email the change over was blocked from GoDaddy's end without explaination. The strange thing is while there was never any child porn or illegal content on puellula.comand GoDaddy never explained their actions, the site was also home to many racists and extremists hate sites that were apparently never a problem. It finally took a complaint from Lindsay to ICAAN before the domains were finally restored to him!
GoDaddy is run by people who see no evil in groups such as: Skinheads, Hammerskins, Aryan Nations, White Camelia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, Ku Klux Klan all whom were still registered with GoDaddy as of roughly this time last year. Given the legal wrangling it took to get the company to turn over the domain names to their proper owners, why would anyone be surprised when they decide to dip into the extortion racket?
Do yourself a favor and find a domain register who is willing to take care of their customers and isn't run by a bunch of racists who think we haven't done enough torture on the Guantanamo Bay prisioners!
--I*Love*Green*Olives
I mean for the love of Ghu, does everyone working in United States politics have Mental Dysponexia? Everything in the news these days in about the '3\/1|_ Internet Pedofiles' does nothing else go in in this country? Are there no other big issues?
This type of thing is little more than a distraction, a ruse to make people willingly abandon their rights one by one in order to fight a menace that doesn't even exist. Not to say that there aren't people meeting each other through myspace and things happen--but certainly there aren't enough people out there using myspace and internet chat rooms to seek out children to justify this kind of response. I believe in psychology they call this 'denial' and 'avoidance' so what exactly is it we so desperately wish to deny or ignore?
We're trying to ignore that the problem isn't some stranger over the internet--it's Daddy!
The numbers are clear: well over 50% of child abusecases are are ones where the perpetrator was a parent and of the percentage remaining, overwhelmingly the perpetrator was a person in authority or well known to the child and the family. This isn't about strangers over the internet, its about pretending that everything is alright at home--well its not!
Where is this MAA (..a little inside humor there..Heh..) on the incest exemption laws is what I want to know! Why is it that legally a man who rapes his daughter can have state financed retrieval services, get less time in prison if caught, #### he can even get conjugal visits with the child if his wife is made the guardian...and yet if a guy and a girl meet online and eventually start a relationship and all that entails the law punishes him ten times the degree that it does Daddy? Oh wait, I forgot--Pay No Attention To Daddy! Silly me! I know, let's all forget about Daddy and watch Dateline pick up another group of gullible idiots! That'll take our mind off things!
--I*Love*Green*Olives (sitting in a golf car with OJ looking for the 'real' killers...)
PS: I type this using the wrong account name the first time! :blushes: But it was really me both times!
Being that Cheap Trick likely signed a contract with Sony in the early 90's (and SONY has changed management how many times since then?) couldn't it be argued that the organization Cheap Trick signed their contracts with no longer exists?
Some food for thought...
--I*Love*Green*Olives