My point is that the app-formerly-known-as-xtunes people couldn't even think up a good name themselves, and instead stole a decade-old jab at Apple Records.
It's not even their wit! They stole it from the company they're trying to use it against!
I have an iPod. I watch out for people wearing headphones each day to check out what they're using. This happens to be something that interests me (once you've spent $1100 on a music player, they quickly become interesting).
I also travel into the CBD each morning and out of it each night via the train, and get around on foot and on trams during the day. (All inside Zone 1, so don't push any of your "cheap suburb" crap onto me).
Almost no-one has Mini-disc players.
The majority of people that are listening to portable music have either CD players, tape players, or tiny radios.
Look, I don't care about your high school age friend and what they happen to be using to listen to music (even though I'm still just inside the age bracket you mentioned). I don't care if three or four of your friends happen to have Mini-disc players, because they are not everyone in Australia.
There is virtually no demand for mini-discs here, because no one uses them. If you'd like to show me otherwise, come to the next Slashdot Meetup and show me some Mini-disc users. Although I've missed the last two meetups due to picking up people from airports for nodermeets, and because of being at work a few hours too long, I'll be at the next one. Really. I'm sure...
I'd be willing to try that file, if you'll e-mail me it.
I have an iBook 600, late 2001 model, that have the older Rage video chipsets. I have read about someone getting these thing either spanning or at least outputting to the VGA port at a higher resoultion in XFree a while ago.
I am running 10.2 now, however I'm willing to install 10.1.5 into a spare partiton to test this, if you're willing to e-mail me the file.
Excuse me, but the parent post from Shabazz is hardly a troll. He pointed out a massive error on the part of SomeOtherGuy.
SomeOtherGuy has incorrectly read the article and assumed that 'Monte Hurd' is an Opera employee, which is totally incorrect. He then attacks Opera for something they didn't say.
"a) the no-button mouse, after using scroll mice and relying heavily on right-clicking and center-clicking for a while now, the lack of buttons is disconcerting."
It's not a "no-button mouse", it's a one button mouse. Just because the button is built in an innovative way doesn't mean it does not exist.
You're finding the lack of extra mouse buttons "disconcerting", are you? Then why don't you plug your fancy mouse into the Mac? OS X supports right clicking and scroll wheels straight out of the box, and Logitech, Microsoft, and Kensington all have free official OS X support software if you'd like to set 'advanced' options.
"b) it's ugly, that's an opinion, though, and not a fact.
"c) when you close the last window to an application, the application should quit, or at least ask if you want to quit, OS X leaves it running."
Once again, this is just your opinion. However, the OS X way really is the 'advanced users' way. OS X works around the concept that the window is not the application.
Close the iTunes player window, the music continues and you don't have to deal with a window being open. Need access to a window again? Click it in the Dock and the window reopens. Close the XMMS (or Winamp, or whatever) window, the music stops, the app closes. If you want to get the thing out of the way, you have to minimise it, or move it out of the way.
And, for anyone out there now thinking "Well, I do prefer the XMMS example": You can work that way in OS X as well if you'd like. You can still minimise and move windows if you'd prefer not to close them.
Mail.app is the same. I have Mail.app running in the background, checking my e-mail every 5 minutes. Now, if your advice were to be taken, I'd have to have a Mail.app window open somewhere to do this.
The OS X way is far more advanced, and gives more flexiblity. However, if that's to hard to grasp, just be sure to use the Application menu (it's always the one next to the Apple up the top) and choose Quit in that, or press Cmd-Q (Command is the 'Apple Key', just so you know). I assume you're capable of that.
"d) no apparent ability for the TCP/IP stuff to autodetect traffic and, if needed, initiate a dialup connection...."
Well, personally all my dialing is done automatically by an Airport Base Station. However, I've just had a look in System Preferences. In the Network Settings, I chose 'Internal Modem'. I then looked in the 'PPP' tab and saw this button that said 'PPP Options'. The first option in there? Connect automatically when starting TCP/IP applications.
Now, this took me no more then 30 seconds. Perhaps you should try opening your eyes next time.
"this is all based on very limited exposure to the system."
What did you do, play with the operating system for 2 minutes in an Apple Store somewhere?
Most of your 'issues' with OS X do not exist. Informed opinions really are good things to have; perhaps you should try one sometime.
Did you mean "Australian"? I'm guessing so. Now, you're forced to preview a story before submitting, and on a standard QWERTY keyboard the 'n' and the 'i' are far apart. So, simply, where the hell did you pull "Austrailiai' from?
"If the guy is interested in "electronic music" and Sasha/Digweed, why the fuck doesn't he just go and buy a copy of Northern Exposure or something? It's got both of them doing DJ stuff, and it's an hour long."
So, there. I assume this 'Northern Exposure' CD is on Amazon or something somewhere.
Personally, I'd listen to some trip-hop from Portishead or Supreme Beings of Leisure if I wanted to hear something eletronicish, but that's just me...
I am a geek. I tell people that all the time. "Geek pride!" and everything. However, I didn't "aim to be" or "become" a geek. That's just who I am. That's just me. I am more important then my category.
You are you before you are a geek. No one can ever call you phony for being yourself.
And at least one of his videos, Eastside iirc, got enough MTV airplay to make me start skipping that track on the cd, good as it is -- mainstream.
Nice to see that MTV managed to manipulate your taste in music so easily.
If you are sick of a song, it's your own fault. No one makes you listen to the radio play the same song repeatedly. No one makes you watch the advertising that has turned a great song into a jingle. No one decides what you are exposed to except yourself.
If you don't want a song to be ruined by a radio repeating it over and over, don't listen to the radio. If you don't want some ad destroying a song, don't watch TV. If you 'want to get exposed to something then walk away from it.
Your "shun the mainstream" approach makes you come across as little more then a rebellious teenager.
Now, as far as BSD goes, yes Apple did use very large portions of it. Have you actually read the BSD license before, because I'd love for you to explain where Apple are violating it. Infact, with the Darwin Project, Apple are going far beyond what they are bound to provide.
I said "iTunes is a very different animal on the outside compared to SoundJam." I know they're virtually the same thing under the surface. I just think iTunes is much better then SoundJam because of the changes Apple has made.
And of course, like all people should, I use LAME to encode all my mp3s.
You mean the kind of innovation where you find a product superior to yours and then copy it because you couldn't figure out how to invent it yourself?
Yep, that's the kind.
Of course *Apple* and *Microsoft* tend to *pay* the innovators by purchasing the software, instead of copying it (iTunes was purchased, as was DirectX)
Perhaps, however iTunes is a very different animal on the outside compared to SoundJam.
The little I've used SoundJam, I really haven't liked it. iTuens, however, I have used since my iBook finally arrived back in January. Apple are known for their UI experence, and it shows. They tend to build innovation on a foundation of technology.
I couldn't tell if you were sarcastic or not when you mention 'open-source innovation'
"If they cannot licence it and constrict the destribution of it via their licence, then who are we to whine whenever some corperation steals GPLed code and closed-sources it? It would be blatent hipocracy."
I can see good and bad points from both sides of this argument. I am a strong supporter of Nintendo, but also like being able to get access to games that would otherwise be impossible to play (not every NES game will be ported to the GBA).
However, I must say that your point that I have quoted deserves to be highlighted, because it's exactly right. If the way Nintendo licenses their software can just be ignored, why not ignore the all-high GNU General Public License too?
As previously discussed? You link to a comment to a mildly related story from a few weeks ago, and try to pass that off as a story. However, it's not just any old comment; it's one you made yourself!
Blowing your own trumpet ahoy! I've never seen this type of thing on the front page before!
The ZDNet article is nice and all, but rehashing some comment you've posted then linking to it is not news.
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...however it still shows their total lack of originality. It's just another thing to note on the list of stuff they've ripped from Apple.
I think I wrote this just as you were posting that...
Sosumi was cool the first time. It's not cool anymore; it's been done.
I think all their wit is perfectly intact.
My point is that the app-formerly-known-as-xtunes people couldn't even think up a good name themselves, and instead stole a decade-old jab at Apple Records.
It's not even their wit! They stole it from the company they're trying to use it against!
WATSON SHOULD SUE MAC COZ THEY RIPPED EM OFF!!!!1
Look, the company is called Karelia, not 'Watson'.
Yes, Apple almost certanly took a whole lot of ideas for Sherlock 3 from Watson, however Watson also was inspired by Sherlock 2.
Besides, Karelia may get their own back: they are pondering a Windows port.
Hell, even their 'witty' name is ripping off the name Apple Computer came up with for a system sound after predicting a lawsuit from Apple Records.
These guys at from the app-formerly-known-as-xtunes project need to learn a thing or two about originality!
"Apple employee Vince Garcia"
Who?
I can't find him, or anything in 2000 refering to him running OS X on an x86.
Do you have any stories you could link to?
I have an iPod. I watch out for people wearing headphones each day to check out what they're using. This happens to be something that interests me (once you've spent $1100 on a music player, they quickly become interesting).
I also travel into the CBD each morning and out of it each night via the train, and get around on foot and on trams during the day. (All inside Zone 1, so don't push any of your "cheap suburb" crap onto me).
Almost no-one has Mini-disc players.
The majority of people that are listening to portable music have either CD players, tape players, or tiny radios.
Look, I don't care about your high school age friend and what they happen to be using to listen to music (even though I'm still just inside the age bracket you mentioned). I don't care if three or four of your friends happen to have Mini-disc players, because they are not everyone in Australia.
There is virtually no demand for mini-discs here, because no one uses them. If you'd like to show me otherwise, come to the next Slashdot Meetup and show me some Mini-disc users. Although I've missed the last two meetups due to picking up people from airports for nodermeets, and because of being at work a few hours too long, I'll be at the next one. Really. I'm sure...
I'd be willing to try that file, if you'll e-mail me it.
I have an iBook 600, late 2001 model, that have the older Rage video chipsets. I have read about someone getting these thing either spanning or at least outputting to the VGA port at a higher resoultion in XFree a while ago.
I am running 10.2 now, however I'm willing to install 10.1.5 into a spare partiton to test this, if you're willing to e-mail me the file.
Thanks in advance, Mr Post.
Excuse me, but the parent post from Shabazz is hardly a troll. He pointed out a massive error on the part of SomeOtherGuy.
SomeOtherGuy has incorrectly read the article and assumed that 'Monte Hurd' is an Opera employee, which is totally incorrect. He then attacks Opera for something they didn't say.
Shabazz's post is insightful.
SomeOtherGuy's post is overrated.
Please moderate as such.
"Learn more about lesbians and soy."
Sir, your sentence seems to have lost it's monkeys.
Malarkey? or Effective Way?
It's not a "no-button mouse", it's a one button mouse. Just because the button is built in an innovative way doesn't mean it does not exist.
You're finding the lack of extra mouse buttons "disconcerting", are you? Then why don't you plug your fancy mouse into the Mac? OS X supports right clicking and scroll wheels straight out of the box, and Logitech, Microsoft, and Kensington all have free official OS X support software if you'd like to set 'advanced' options.
Then change it.
Once again, this is just your opinion. However, the OS X way really is the 'advanced users' way. OS X works around the concept that the window is not the application.
Close the iTunes player window, the music continues and you don't have to deal with a window being open. Need access to a window again? Click it in the Dock and the window reopens. Close the XMMS (or Winamp, or whatever) window, the music stops, the app closes. If you want to get the thing out of the way, you have to minimise it, or move it out of the way.
And, for anyone out there now thinking "Well, I do prefer the XMMS example": You can work that way in OS X as well if you'd like. You can still minimise and move windows if you'd prefer not to close them.
Mail.app is the same. I have Mail.app running in the background, checking my e-mail every 5 minutes. Now, if your advice were to be taken, I'd have to have a Mail.app window open somewhere to do this.
The OS X way is far more advanced, and gives more flexiblity. However, if that's to hard to grasp, just be sure to use the Application menu (it's always the one next to the Apple up the top) and choose Quit in that, or press Cmd-Q (Command is the 'Apple Key', just so you know). I assume you're capable of that.
Well, personally all my dialing is done automatically by an Airport Base Station. However, I've just had a look in System Preferences. In the Network Settings, I chose 'Internal Modem'. I then looked in the 'PPP' tab and saw this button that said 'PPP Options'. The first option in there? Connect automatically when starting TCP/IP applications.
Now, this took me no more then 30 seconds. Perhaps you should try opening your eyes next time.
What did you do, play with the operating system for 2 minutes in an Apple Store somewhere?
Most of your 'issues' with OS X do not exist. Informed opinions really are good things to have; perhaps you should try one sometime.
Austrailai? What do you mean exactly?
I've just asked Google, and it can't answer my question. Nor can E2.
Did you mean "Australian"? I'm guessing so. Now, you're forced to preview a story before submitting, and on a standard QWERTY keyboard the 'n' and the 'i' are far apart. So, simply, where the hell did you pull "Austrailiai' from?
...and this was the reply:
"If the guy is interested in "electronic music" and Sasha/Digweed, why the fuck doesn't he just go and buy a copy of Northern Exposure or something? It's got both of them doing DJ stuff, and it's an hour long."
So, there. I assume this 'Northern Exposure' CD is on Amazon or something somewhere.
Personally, I'd listen to some trip-hop from Portishead or Supreme Beings of Leisure if I wanted to hear something eletronicish, but that's just me...
Poor Sara.
"Ack! That person doesn't fit in a category! Quick, find one for them!"
I am a geek. I tell people that all the time. "Geek pride!" and everything. However, I didn't "aim to be" or "become" a geek. That's just who I am. That's just me. I am more important then my category.
You are you before you are a geek. No one can ever call you phony for being yourself.
Well, my karma is going to hell, but all well...
:)
Nice to see there's some taste in music around
Nice to see that MTV managed to manipulate your taste in music so easily.
If you are sick of a song, it's your own fault. No one makes you listen to the radio play the same song repeatedly. No one makes you watch the advertising that has turned a great song into a jingle. No one decides what you are exposed to except yourself.
If you don't want a song to be ruined by a radio repeating it over and over, don't listen to the radio. If you don't want some ad destroying a song, don't watch TV. If you 'want to get exposed to something then walk away from it.
Your "shun the mainstream" approach makes you come across as little more then a rebellious teenager.
How the hell is Mac OS X a rip-off of NeXTStep? It is NeXTStep. Apple did buy NeXT after all, and I'd argue that Apple has since become NeXT.
Now, as far as BSD goes, yes Apple did use very large portions of it. Have you actually read the BSD license before, because I'd love for you to explain where Apple are violating it. Infact, with the Darwin Project, Apple are going far beyond what they are bound to provide.
As as for KJS, well, "All Apple changes will be contributed back to the mainline version". Once again, that don't actually need to do this, but they are anyway.
Both of these are totally within Apple's rights. If you'd like to argue this, I'd love to hear what you have to say.
Apple have used open-source software in completely legitimate ways, and have gone out of their way to contribute their enhancements back.
I said "iTunes is a very different animal on the outside compared to SoundJam." I know they're virtually the same thing under the surface. I just think iTunes is much better then SoundJam because of the changes Apple has made.
And of course, like all people should, I use LAME to encode all my mp3s.
Yep, that's the kind.
Perhaps, however iTunes is a very different animal on the outside compared to SoundJam.
The little I've used SoundJam, I really haven't liked it. iTuens, however, I have used since my iBook finally arrived back in January. Apple are known for their UI experence, and it shows. They tend to build innovation on a foundation of technology.
Yes, yes I was.
They already have.
Rhythmbox, which "takes its inspiration from Apple's iTunes application", is a direct rip-off of iTunes. It's also what I point at each and every time someone mentions open-source innovation.
"If they cannot licence it and constrict the destribution of it via their licence, then who are we to whine whenever some corperation steals GPLed code and closed-sources it? It would be blatent hipocracy."
I can see good and bad points from both sides of this argument. I am a strong supporter of Nintendo, but also like being able to get access to games that would otherwise be impossible to play (not every NES game will be ported to the GBA).
However, I must say that your point that I have quoted deserves to be highlighted, because it's exactly right. If the way Nintendo licenses their software can just be ignored, why not ignore the all-high GNU General Public License too?
Look at my Slashdot username.
Read the link to Everything2 in my post.
Look at the username who wrote that piece on E2.
So, lets get straight; you're accusing me of not reading the source I linked to? Err, but, I wrote it!
As previously discussed? You link to a comment to a mildly related story from a few weeks ago, and try to pass that off as a story. However, it's not just any old comment; it's one you made yourself!
Blowing your own trumpet ahoy! I've never seen this type of thing on the front page before!
The ZDNet article is nice and all, but rehashing some comment you've posted then linking to it is not news.
And, it's written 'DivX'. Ha! I just linked to myself! I'm so cool!
This is mildly interesting though...
Typical. First day I don't check the front page and it changes... ;)
This is great news though, I think I'm going to order a t-shirt and some stickers on Monday...