The home/student edition is what it says on the package and IT CANNOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
The doctrine of first sale doesn't apply to the restrictions on the license. You can't buy it, abide by the restrictions, then resell it to someone so they can violate the license. Even if that were true it doesn't change the fact for 99.99% of the people buying the product. They aren't going to resell it. Hence they are limited in use. Not only that all versions of Microsoft Office have to be activated.
You can't use the home/student edition of Office for any commercial or business use according to the license. It even says on the title bar of every window that it is for non commercial use only.
You can still sue Apple even if they remove it from the store as distribution has already taken place. Removal just minimizes liability it doesn't immunize against it. Even though Apple's developer agreement states something that doesn't make it legal, and thus if the developer chooses they can still sue Apple.
Writing something in the license doesn't bind FOSS. Any interested party could easily still sue Apple, even if the license attempted to immunize Apple.
Though you can buy that for $150 (for the home and student edition) you can't use it for commercial or business purposes. That means it is intended to be used for writing letters and doing school papers. Any use of it for commercial purposes violates the license. Since the license is so restrictive why not just use the free program that supports international standards?
Your inability or unwillingness to learn to use Open Office aside, no pragmatic reasons exist for not using it for everything, even that which you state can't be achieved.
You are talking R&D costs. Once you, *or anyone*, figures the right combination out that's that. Once the R&D is paid for that's that. The costs of printer ink are still outrageously high a decade AFTER the R&D was primarily done.
HP IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF, period.
HP has tried every trick in the book to keep people from refiling or buying competitors cartridges. They added circuit boards to track the date and page count. When a company chose to reverse engineer that HP sued, and LOST. Then they put vacuum bags inside to keep people from using needles to refill. They have tried everything.
If 50% of the people are happy then they are happy. The quality of a photo done with an ink jet printer is crap compared to a photo that's printed by professional shops.
Much of the technology necessary to make quality print used to be in the printer. Today, the printers are throw away devices. Companies give them away just to get you actively spending money on print ink--theirs.
HP is LYING. This is a total psych. They are actively defrauding the public with their statements. They belie reality.
I would have to agree, though I wouldn't have stated it so aggressively.
Yes, the competition is the one spearheading this talking point. I wrote in an earlier post that it might be justified to fire the editor for ruining the career of the journalist by allowing this sort of article to be published. Maybe the journalists that are serious about their careers should look harder before agreeing to write such crap.
You make some good points but you yield too much success for Android to the business market. Far more consumers use cells than business does, if not thousands to one then millions to one.
I agree to some extent. Though I think it is a fools who runs in the sight of adversity. This doesn't mean that the environment is adverse, on the contrary, it is far from adverse. Engadget has no clue, they don't know what they are talking about. The Andriod is no more fragmented than Windows, the Mac OS, the iPhone, or any other. They are making much ado about nothing. Fire the editor for ruining the careers of the journalists by publishing this crap!
One has to expect fragmentation and that the fragmentation will decline as models age out. Those consumers that don't have a phone with touch will just give up the ghost and get a better more modern phone over time. Apples OS4 for the iPhone won't run on the first two generations of the hardware. The coming updates beyond OS4 will fragment the iPhone more, and that's coming from "one company".
Let's be real. The talk about fragmentation is a marketing ploy by the competition to keep developers and consumers from making the leap. An intelligent mind sees that fragmentation is everywhere from the desktop to the phone--in every device and in every OS.
As far as the single button mouse thing goes Apple introduced a sort of scroll wheel. That there is Apple conceding the point. Secondly, you don't have to stick with the keyboard nor the mouse Apple provides. Just pick up a Logitech mouse and/or keyboard and you'll be just fine.
The vast majority of those were for smartphones. Smartphones are a much different animal than an iPad. Unless you concede it is a large iphone.
People bought those knowing the power of any given app was extremely limited. And they allowed this because they were led to believe that the Apps would be reviewed and managed to keep malicious contenders from gaining access to their private data (phone numbers, email addresses, call history, etc).
When I have discussion with people about the lack of flash (HTML 5 is not going to address this due to a wide variety of issues with it) and the lack of multitasking they generally see the light. This will relegate the device to short term use where you pick it up, look up something, read a little, and then set it down. Even if there were a million apps in the store it would still be the same store only instead of 50 crap apps for every good app you'll have 500 crap apps for every good one. And what could I want from 200,000 or a million apps? I can hardly find a worthy one to toy with the way it is. Even the "iPhone apps of the week" blogs promote sucky apps in general.
I own an iPhone. I have purchased mostly music (only after the draconian DRM scheme was dropped). I have a few apps. Not having multitasking hurts my ability to use it. The proposed implementation of multitasking in the iPhone and iPad are really not multitasking. They are just hooks into the same routines that Apple has given their own software.
I'm a firm believer that the Android market will overtake the iTunes store. I'm also a firm believer that Steve sees the handwriting on the wall and is doing everything in his power to lock out the competition from content distribution.
This is patently misleading. Millions of people were not predisposed to buy PCs in the 70s and 80s. In fact, PC were extremely niche back then, well into the 80s. The PCs weren't even a known quantity in the 70s, and business was "the" big user in the 80s.
iPad sales won't pick up nor continue at high volume because it can't. It is like the Macintosh. It didn't take off until nearly 30 years after the introduction. (What changed the Macintosh prospect was the changeover from the PowerPC to the Intel platform.) The Macintosh back in the 80s was viewed as a crippled machine. Software development was difficult. The machine was slow, it wasn't viewed as a real productivity machine. It never made it into business. Applications for business were essentially non-existent. Yes there was the niche market for publishing, and the laser printer was a big deal.
Giving the 70s and 80s credit for accelerating PCs is a foolhardy premise, and history doesn't prove it out. It was the 90s (20 years later) that represented growth by the average person and that only happened due to the openness of the device, the wide availability of just about every type of software and hardware.
Every closed device Apple has ever created hasn't met with any significant success for the first 20 years. The iPad will be no different. It is clearly marketing and those already predisposed that are inclined to purchase such a product today that are driving sales. Once the dissonance wears off so will the sales volume. And that's too bad because if Apple hadn't closed it and walled it in it would have proved potential for a much brighter future. When the Andriod tablets hit the market en mass that'll show this device is just riding the crest of a wave.
And, as far as Steve Job's ridiculous notion that he is saving the iPad from porn, and thus everyone else, well, that's crazy. To date there are NO KNOWN porn applications for any platform. Yes there are websites, there are video files and photos, but essentially no known porn applications. There are certainly some apps that show nudity and sex but those are hardly porn programs. Even on the PC they are notably missing.
So, Steve is playing on words here in an attempt to disneyfy Apple and the iPad. If people want to view porn on their iPad they can and will and nothing, absolutely NOTHING, Steve does can change than. He's misleading the consuming public.
This is patently false. There are iphone exploits that don't rely on the app store or jailbreaking. The iphone's utility isn't great enough to make it a worthy target. Basically it has no value to the malware guys because it has severely limited power, which a PC has plenty of. The type and amount of information stored on an iphone is small.
I don't think you understand the motivations of the malware authors. There's no benefit behind jacking an iphone when you have billions of PC with much more power, and the iPad for that matter.
This is patently false. Virtually every product released over the past 20 years (rather from the company's founding) have all come from someone else. Jobs has been responsible for one notable thing, and one alone, nothing else whatsoever. He recognizes and shepherds the bright ideas of others.
And in case you didn't know Jobs was not once but twice dumped by Apple relegating him to non-functional roles because he was such a problem he almost killed Apple. He's on a roll now but personalities like him never change. His current language and actions are not endearing him to the masses. That spells trouble.
If you were to compare Linux to Windows 95, 98, Win3.1, Win NT 3.51, Win 2k, OS 6, 7, 8, 9, OS2, you'd have to conclude that none of those prior products were commercial grade. In fact, compared to Linux today they'd be viewed as downright user hostile.
Trying to spread such feldercarb about Linux to the uninformed while being uninformed yourself is outright fraud. It's like a cultist trying to convince the masses with popular catch phrases.
Of course Linux is commercial grade. It is a fantastic choice for most people. It gets better faster than commercial software. Free counterparts to most if not all commercial software is abundantly available. Feature parity is not a dream. Some commercial software begs to have the features that Linux based apps have.
Of those commercial software programs out there I doubt you could name but a few that are very successful or have names so well known that people know them immediately.
In some of the latest security tests done where they tried to crack into the three popular OSes Linux was the only one they couldn't get into. The first to go was the Macintosh, then Windows.
So, cry me a river when someone claims that the app store will free them from malicious software bent on stealing their personal information.
And, please....the most highly prone software program susceptible to malware is also the most successful.
And mankind enslaved on a new continent means more choice for them?
I'm sorry but having choice in a non crippled world is better than some choice in crippled world. The choices may appear different but they aren't. There are just fewer choices.
Thank goodness FOSS has no central governing force, for if it had it would cease to be FOSS. You can't understand that to be "governed and free" is an oxymoron?
A walled garden app store is not a great invention. And almost everyone would take issue with the ipad being the best car (computer) ever. No one in their right mind should be thinking that.
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The home/student edition is what it says on the package and IT CANNOT BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
The doctrine of first sale doesn't apply to the restrictions on the license. You can't buy it, abide by the restrictions, then resell it to someone so they can violate the license. Even if that were true it doesn't change the fact for 99.99% of the people buying the product. They aren't going to resell it. Hence they are limited in use. Not only that all versions of Microsoft Office have to be activated.
You can't use the home/student edition of Office for any commercial or business use according to the license. It even says on the title bar of every window that it is for non commercial use only.
You can still sue Apple even if they remove it from the store as distribution has already taken place. Removal just minimizes liability it doesn't immunize against it. Even though Apple's developer agreement states something that doesn't make it legal, and thus if the developer chooses they can still sue Apple.
Writing something in the license doesn't bind FOSS. Any interested party could easily still sue Apple, even if the license attempted to immunize Apple.
Though you can buy that for $150 (for the home and student edition) you can't use it for commercial or business purposes. That means it is intended to be used for writing letters and doing school papers. Any use of it for commercial purposes violates the license. Since the license is so restrictive why not just use the free program that supports international standards?
Your inability or unwillingness to learn to use Open Office aside, no pragmatic reasons exist for not using it for everything, even that which you state can't be achieved.
You are talking R&D costs. Once you, *or anyone*, figures the right combination out that's that. Once the R&D is paid for that's that. The costs of printer ink are still outrageously high a decade AFTER the R&D was primarily done.
HP IS RIPPING PEOPLE OFF, period.
HP has tried every trick in the book to keep people from refiling or buying competitors cartridges. They added circuit boards to track the date and page count. When a company chose to reverse engineer that HP sued, and LOST. Then they put vacuum bags inside to keep people from using needles to refill. They have tried everything.
If 50% of the people are happy then they are happy. The quality of a photo done with an ink jet printer is crap compared to a photo that's printed by professional shops.
Much of the technology necessary to make quality print used to be in the printer. Today, the printers are throw away devices. Companies give them away just to get you actively spending money on print ink--theirs.
HP is LYING. This is a total psych. They are actively defrauding the public with their statements. They belie reality.
Irrelevant.
I would have to agree, though I wouldn't have stated it so aggressively.
Yes, the competition is the one spearheading this talking point. I wrote in an earlier post that it might be justified to fire the editor for ruining the career of the journalist by allowing this sort of article to be published. Maybe the journalists that are serious about their careers should look harder before agreeing to write such crap.
You make some good points but you yield too much success for Android to the business market. Far more consumers use cells than business does, if not thousands to one then millions to one.
And Apple's computers and other consumer devices, including the iPhone are fragmented. Please stop using them as a bastion of solidarity.
I agree to some extent. Though I think it is a fools who runs in the sight of adversity. This doesn't mean that the environment is adverse, on the contrary, it is far from adverse. Engadget has no clue, they don't know what they are talking about. The Andriod is no more fragmented than Windows, the Mac OS, the iPhone, or any other. They are making much ado about nothing. Fire the editor for ruining the careers of the journalists by publishing this crap!
One has to expect fragmentation and that the fragmentation will decline as models age out. Those consumers that don't have a phone with touch will just give up the ghost and get a better more modern phone over time. Apples OS4 for the iPhone won't run on the first two generations of the hardware. The coming updates beyond OS4 will fragment the iPhone more, and that's coming from "one company".
Let's be real. The talk about fragmentation is a marketing ploy by the competition to keep developers and consumers from making the leap. An intelligent mind sees that fragmentation is everywhere from the desktop to the phone--in every device and in every OS.
Win 3.x and Mac OS both had cooperative multitasking. Win95 brought true preemptive multitasking. The Mac didn't have that till OSX.
I don't see that as enough justification for visiting Bing.
Adoption is a high threshold.
You really willing to say that the adoption of billions of PCs by billions worldwide is a low threshold of proof?
As far as the single button mouse thing goes Apple introduced a sort of scroll wheel. That there is Apple conceding the point. Secondly, you don't have to stick with the keyboard nor the mouse Apple provides. Just pick up a Logitech mouse and/or keyboard and you'll be just fine.
The vast majority of those were for smartphones. Smartphones are a much different animal than an iPad. Unless you concede it is a large iphone.
People bought those knowing the power of any given app was extremely limited. And they allowed this because they were led to believe that the Apps would be reviewed and managed to keep malicious contenders from gaining access to their private data (phone numbers, email addresses, call history, etc).
When I have discussion with people about the lack of flash (HTML 5 is not going to address this due to a wide variety of issues with it) and the lack of multitasking they generally see the light. This will relegate the device to short term use where you pick it up, look up something, read a little, and then set it down. Even if there were a million apps in the store it would still be the same store only instead of 50 crap apps for every good app you'll have 500 crap apps for every good one. And what could I want from 200,000 or a million apps? I can hardly find a worthy one to toy with the way it is. Even the "iPhone apps of the week" blogs promote sucky apps in general.
I own an iPhone. I have purchased mostly music (only after the draconian DRM scheme was dropped). I have a few apps. Not having multitasking hurts my ability to use it. The proposed implementation of multitasking in the iPhone and iPad are really not multitasking. They are just hooks into the same routines that Apple has given their own software.
I'm a firm believer that the Android market will overtake the iTunes store. I'm also a firm believer that Steve sees the handwriting on the wall and is doing everything in his power to lock out the competition from content distribution.
"Using" and "just fine" are defined "as *billions* of PCs in use world-wide". Can't have a better gauge than that.
If the truth is a troll then you are going to lead a disappointing life.
This is patently misleading. Millions of people were not predisposed to buy PCs in the 70s and 80s. In fact, PC were extremely niche back then, well into the 80s. The PCs weren't even a known quantity in the 70s, and business was "the" big user in the 80s.
iPad sales won't pick up nor continue at high volume because it can't. It is like the Macintosh. It didn't take off until nearly 30 years after the introduction. (What changed the Macintosh prospect was the changeover from the PowerPC to the Intel platform.) The Macintosh back in the 80s was viewed as a crippled machine. Software development was difficult. The machine was slow, it wasn't viewed as a real productivity machine. It never made it into business. Applications for business were essentially non-existent. Yes there was the niche market for publishing, and the laser printer was a big deal.
Giving the 70s and 80s credit for accelerating PCs is a foolhardy premise, and history doesn't prove it out. It was the 90s (20 years later) that represented growth by the average person and that only happened due to the openness of the device, the wide availability of just about every type of software and hardware.
Every closed device Apple has ever created hasn't met with any significant success for the first 20 years. The iPad will be no different. It is clearly marketing and those already predisposed that are inclined to purchase such a product today that are driving sales. Once the dissonance wears off so will the sales volume. And that's too bad because if Apple hadn't closed it and walled it in it would have proved potential for a much brighter future. When the Andriod tablets hit the market en mass that'll show this device is just riding the crest of a wave.
And, as far as Steve Job's ridiculous notion that he is saving the iPad from porn, and thus everyone else, well, that's crazy. To date there are NO KNOWN porn applications for any platform. Yes there are websites, there are video files and photos, but essentially no known porn applications. There are certainly some apps that show nudity and sex but those are hardly porn programs. Even on the PC they are notably missing.
So, Steve is playing on words here in an attempt to disneyfy Apple and the iPad. If people want to view porn on their iPad they can and will and nothing, absolutely NOTHING, Steve does can change than. He's misleading the consuming public.
This is patently false. There are iphone exploits that don't rely on the app store or jailbreaking. The iphone's utility isn't great enough to make it a worthy target. Basically it has no value to the malware guys because it has severely limited power, which a PC has plenty of. The type and amount of information stored on an iphone is small.
I don't think you understand the motivations of the malware authors. There's no benefit behind jacking an iphone when you have billions of PC with much more power, and the iPad for that matter.
This is patently false. Virtually every product released over the past 20 years (rather from the company's founding) have all come from someone else. Jobs has been responsible for one notable thing, and one alone, nothing else whatsoever. He recognizes and shepherds the bright ideas of others.
And in case you didn't know Jobs was not once but twice dumped by Apple relegating him to non-functional roles because he was such a problem he almost killed Apple. He's on a roll now but personalities like him never change. His current language and actions are not endearing him to the masses. That spells trouble.
If you were to compare Linux to Windows 95, 98, Win3.1, Win NT 3.51, Win 2k, OS 6, 7, 8, 9, OS2, you'd have to conclude that none of those prior products were commercial grade. In fact, compared to Linux today they'd be viewed as downright user hostile.
Trying to spread such feldercarb about Linux to the uninformed while being uninformed yourself is outright fraud. It's like a cultist trying to convince the masses with popular catch phrases.
Of course Linux is commercial grade. It is a fantastic choice for most people. It gets better faster than commercial software. Free counterparts to most if not all commercial software is abundantly available. Feature parity is not a dream. Some commercial software begs to have the features that Linux based apps have.
Of those commercial software programs out there I doubt you could name but a few that are very successful or have names so well known that people know them immediately.
In some of the latest security tests done where they tried to crack into the three popular OSes Linux was the only one they couldn't get into. The first to go was the Macintosh, then Windows.
So, cry me a river when someone claims that the app store will free them from malicious software bent on stealing their personal information.
And, please....the most highly prone software program susceptible to malware is also the most successful.
And mankind enslaved on a new continent means more choice for them?
I'm sorry but having choice in a non crippled world is better than some choice in crippled world. The choices may appear different but they aren't. There are just fewer choices.
Thank goodness FOSS has no central governing force, for if it had it would cease to be FOSS. You can't understand that to be "governed and free" is an oxymoron?
All the Apple astroturfers are out and about tonight.
A walled garden app store is not a great invention. And almost everyone would take issue with the ipad being the best car (computer) ever. No one in their right mind should be thinking that.