And for the price it should be exceptional. Fucking spectacular in fact. You don't even get a keyboard despite the absurd premium of the tablet. Personally I think I'd wait for other manufacturers to catch up and avail of the substantially cheaper prices for equivalent performance.
Personally, I'm waiting for Apple to release the ARM port of OS X that they have (obviously) been working on, so I can get an iPad Pro for my "walkabout" computer.
You weren't hard enough on that AC. And I mean that sincerely.
LOL, thanks!
I HATE ACs with a purple passion. 99% of genuine! unbridled, over-the-top Apple Hate (and I do mean pure Apple Hate, not Anti-Apple debate) comes from Karma-Fearing ACs, and I just get sick to DEATH of it!!!
You and I have gone after each other hammer and tongs quite a few times; but in the end, I respect your opinion, in no small part because you're willing to lay your Karma on the line and fight like a human...
I REALLY wish/. Would get rid of ACs; but like some sick Reality-Show Producers, the Powers-That-Be at Dice/Slashdot KNOW that ACs bring Controversy, and Controversy brings Page-Views... And like sad Reality-Show Contestants,we just keep on getting sucked into the fray...
BTW, I wasn't ducking your last Post. I actually do have quite a bit of paid experience in embedded design (about 40 year's worth), but unfortunately that does NOT include any iOS development, but mostly in industrial real-time measurement and control systems and products. Although, like you, I have used Macs for development work (including back in the 80's and 90's, when it was quite challenging to find Mac-based tools!). However, since the embedded development market has devolved into almost exclusively short-term Contract work, for the past few years, and probably on into retirement, I write Windows Application Code for a living (retch!!!)
Unfortunately, I do not have the luxury of living 90 mins. from 1 Infinite Loop (and yes I am sincerely jealous), but rather am stuck in the embedded-design desert of Indiana; so I concede that you probably have better "insider" information about Apple than do I.
However, as a user of Apple Products since the Apple 1 (which I still have), and a user of Macs since they were Lisas (and I don't mean Macintosh XLs), and a long-time acquaintance of Woz, I really do believe that Apple is not just another company; but rather, at least most of the time, really DOES try to do better, and really DOES value its Customers, and their Privacy and "Product Experience" (to borrow an overused Microsoft Marketing phrase), and since I sincerely believe that they have the best OS overall for both Desktop and Mobile, I will continue to use (and defend, when necessary) their products and business practices until I Feel Different(tm).;-)
Completely off-topic: Do you or your friends know how to once-and-for-all cure the dreaded "Greyed Songs" problem in iTunes?!?! I have a friend that, after getting frustrated with the lifespan of his (many) iPod Classics, finally got fed up and bought a Fiio X5 Gen 2 music player. Fairly nice specs, and had nice things like SDXC card storage; but the "OS" SUUUUCKED, and after not being able to even have bloody Playlists on the thing without learning to Code (he is NOT a developer in any form), at my urging, he bought an 128 GB iPod Touch, 6th Gen. Well, in addition to having ABYSMAL battery life (like 4 hours just playing music, rather than the 40 hours claimed), he also has several songs in his huge collection (he claims it's always the same songs) that are greyed-out in iTunes, and nothing I have been able to Google has helped. He has synced with a USB cable several times (although he hasn't done a complete wipe and reload of the iPod's Music Library), and has tried almost every internet-forum witchery imaginable, but still the greyed songs remain. So between that and the ridiculous battery life, he is (understandably) ready to throw in the towel and return the iPod and go back to his Fiio.
Do you or your friends have any suggestions? This is the most non-Apple experience I have ever seen, and it is turning a Windows User on the verge of switching to Macs (rather than suffer Windows 10, Spyware Edition) and a long-time iPod User, into someone who will likely never own another Apple Product, even though his wife has been a Mac user for over a decade.
Missing hardware is no reason to not offer a feature - many Android phones pretend to have gyroscopic sensors by faking something together from accelerometers and the compass.
Depends on the hardware, and the feature, moron.
Let's see you fake some NFC communications, Biometric sensors, or force-sensitive touchscreen, genius.
Apple does some of that "faking" too. For example, They faked gyros before they had them, just like Android, and they currently fake GPS on the iPod Touch using WiFi location data. And on the Application level, many Apps, notably Games, have to adjust their behavior depending upon the iOS Device/iOS Version that they are running on.
But sometimes, you just can't code your way out of hardware requirements.
Ask Google, Apple, and Microsoft how they get their updates approved. I'm sure that will work for the OEMs, as well. I mean, it must be working for the OEMs, as well; though they are few and far between, non-Nexus Android updates do exist in the wild.
Well, for Apple, it's simple: They were smarter than Google, and kept control of their products all the way through the Distribution Chain.
Also, why does it seem that every time I post in an Android or iOS discussion, you come along and comment? You must like me.
Turn the question around: Why does it seem that you have to post the same Apple-Hate comments every time there is an Android or Apple Article? I'm simply there to prevent you from your lies and exaggerations being the "last word".
To take it even farther, I live in the bay area, less than 90 minutes from 1 Infinite Loop, and actually have friends working at Apple, in real life and not just on the intertubes. They don't argue with my assessment, or try to defend their employer's actions; on the contrary, they confirm that it is technically possible and that I am correct. And yes, one of them works on iPad hardware and the other works on iOS. Is that insider enough for you?
They don't argue with you, because they are tired of hearing it, and want to still be friends.
Has any of them come to you and said "Listen to what Apple's doing now! This is total bullshit! They could easily make [x] happen, and are crippling it on purpose just to sell the new model."
And of course you can't code a fingerprint reader or touch-sensitive digitizer into a product, duh! But your complaint about Siri is unfounded. Sure, Apple could maintain two complete versions of Siri, but I would bet that wouldn't be a small thing to just have lying around dormant in most Devices; so they made a decision to drop the software version. Happens.
As for your argument about the Atrix, that's a complete strawman. It runs a different SoC, with a different GPU, and in fact, could have had capabilities that were not included in the Ax SoCs until later. Do your friends say different?
As for your bald-assertion that the IPA can support App-Sidebarring (sorry, don't know what you mean) that that automatically means it should be able to support split-screening may or may not be true. And what about the additional RAM requirements? Does the IPA have enough for full split-screening, and having two active Apps at one time? It isn't just the GPU, you know...
That is the first viable soluion I've heard to the problem. Good on you for coming up with it; I'm guessing you're the first person to respond to one of my comments on the topic who isn't an Apple or MS (eesh) fanboi.
Ma'm (and please correct me if my gender assumption is incorrect), it is refreshing to once again see intelligent discussion on Slashdot and, for that, I thank you. It's a pity that you'll probably be moderated into oblivion for it.
I agree that is a nice idea; but not a viable one; because, at a measly 5%, it simply isn't "enough skin in the game" for the OEM to go through all the extra testing to make sure a new build still runs ok on the old hardware. For example, all it takes is one array expansion and what SEEMS like it ought to be fine, ends up crashing repeatedly on 90% of last-year's model. 5% just ain't worth it for an OEM.
And then there's the Carriers... Where's their incentive?
And it's not like I don't have any iOS devices in my home, through which I might actually know what I'm talking about. The Gen1 iPad, iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6 Plus (along with the iPhone 5 it replaced, the iPhone 4 that replaced, and the iPhone 3G that replaced) surely count for nothing
And let's just see how many are still supported in iOS 9:
iPad Air - Check!
iPad Air 2 - Check!
iPhone 6 Plus - Check!
iPhone 5 - Check!
So, out of your curiously overlapping models (why do you feel the need to upgrade virtually EVERY cycle?), 4 out of 7 of your iOS Devices are STILL being actively Supported, and one (the Gen1 iPad, released April 2010) had its last update only a year ago, and the other 2 are over 5 years old (iPhone 3G, released July 2008; iPhone 4, released June 2010).
So, since you obviously own many iOS Devices (many more than I have, BTW), including some very recent models (iPhone 6 plus, which I also have, and am very pleased with), why do you spend so much time bashing them with the same rhetoric time and again in these forums? Something doesn't add up.
What they fail to recognize is that software support for iOS devices stops the moment Apple stops selling the device
Right. That's why they released an iOS update specifically for the FIRST GENERATION iPad in May, 2014, and why my iPad 2 and iPhone 4s are STILL supported in iOS 9.
and the fact that, while they might be running the most recent version of iOS, they only get the most recent features on the most recent devices (I'm glaring at iOS9 for the omission of splitscreening on the iPad Air [which I own], which is more than capable of supporting it; and the sad excuse that was given for Siri only being included in iOS for the 4s when it ran just gone on the 3gs as an app before Apple bought the company).
You don't know if the GPU built into the processor in your IPA is capable of supporting two GraphPorts. I would suspect that is NOT the case; because the REGISTERS are simply not there to stuff with the begin/end coordinates, etc. Prove me wrong.
Same thing with Siri. Apple's implementation of Siri (as opposed to the generic App) obviously was changed to leverage custom HARDWARE in the SoC that simply didn't exist pre-iPhone 4s (which, curiously enough, is the same excuse you allow for Google and Nexus).
Why is it that you allow for the "insufficient hardware resources" excuse for Google and Nexus; but not for Apple and iOS Devices? You have absolutely no insider knowledge that could prove otherwise; so, until then, STFU.
Yes, iOS has had, er, ONE that could maybe have been an Exploit (but likely actually not); but Android has had about a Googolplex (haha) of them.
Why do you think that is? And don't say it's because it is the more popular platform; because that is the epitome of a strawman argument. iOS is PLENTY popular enough to be worth exploiting. So it must be something else.
Perhaps it's because the malware writers know that, on Android, the Exploit will be available on a significant number of handsets for months, even years, while conversely, on iOS, an Exploit will quickly be patched, and the patch quickly rolled-out, to most, if not all, handsets.
Android is a failed experiment as far as distribution of software fixes and updates goes. And don't blame the Carriers and OEMs. Google could put its foot down; but doesn't. Version after version; year after year; exploit after exploit.
If challenged, that clause will certainly run afoul of the 13th Amendment's prohibition against Slavery.
No Court will order someone to work for free. Even Public Defenders are paid a per diem when ordered by the Court sue sponte to represent someone. Even prisoners are paid a wage when working (however miniscule).
This is asinine, and the provision will be instantly struck down, maybe even with the provision that they have to provide services after being discharged. Any even half-reasonable Court would see that for what it is: The Corporation trying to have its cake and eat it, too.
I am well-aware that you can knowingly and willfully abrogate your Constitutional Rights; but if this was only part of a "Severance Agreement", then there is little chance the Courts will uphold it, and even if it was part of an employment contract, in most jurisdictions, non-compete clauses (which this essentially is; because what happens if you are working at another job, and Sun Bank tries to exercise that clause to drag you back to work on a Project for them?) are pretty-much universally disfavored, if not downright nullified, by the Courts and/or Legislatures.
My God, the most expensive MacBook Pro will only set you back $2499. The equivalent Surface Book costs $200 more, but it still has the same integrated Intel GPU as the MBP.
Of course it costs more, it has an active digitizer and touchscreen so the price is about right relative to the MBP.
so maybe, just maybe, Apple hasn't been "gouging" all this time
Or more likely Microsoft is following Apple's playbook.
The MBP has an active, force-sensitive, multitouch trackpad. Pretty much as much cost as adding that to a display these days.
No. I think that my original statement about cost to do things "right" is correct. And I have several industrial control product designs under my belt to prove it.
Ahh, the hubris of people who think that THEIR project is so important. Only a small minority of iOS users even know what TOR is and only infinitesimal percentage of iOS wants it on their devices.
For me, I think that unless I needed some tablet-only feature I'd probably just buy a nice laptop for ~$2000 and call it good. You can get a pretty nice laptop for $2K although I don't see very many with pressure-sensitive screens (a few are available, though).
Well, the MacBook Pros have Pressure-Sensitive, Multitouch Trackpads about the size of an iPhone screen. Does that count?
Microsoft's 1TB Surface Book will cost you $3199 (plus tax), which seems a bit steep to me.
And people whine about Apple gouging for "commodity PC hardware"?
My God, the most expensive MacBook Pro will only set you back $2499. The equivalent Surface Book costs $200 more, but it still has the same integrated Intel GPU as the MBP.
And of course the MBP has an OS that both respects your privacy and knows that its a Desktop OS.
But I guess if you are trapped into the MS ecosystem (which you could also run on an MBP, if you wanted), then the 1TB Surface Book may be what you want... When it finally ships in January, 2016.
By the way, it seems like spec for spec, the MBPs and Surface Books are priced pretty closely; so maybe, just maybe, Apple hasn't been "gouging" all this time, and it really does cost a little more to up the build and component quality, eh?
Ironically all I thought was poor value devices to both. I miss Bill buying shoes.
And I suppose you miss the Vista OS that went along with that campaign.
The OS that sucked so hard that MS stopped advertising the name "Microsoft" along with Vista, and just started calling it "Windows" (not Microsoft Windows)?
So basically in the same place as in windows 7 and 8. Still you'd think that if Microsoft were going to automatically toggle this button's appearance, they'd hide it when you plug in a real keyboard and show it when you remove the keyboard.
Sounds like the Tablet Experience team and the Desktop Experience team can't tell True from False.
First off I'd say that the Surface Pro 4 SHOULD kick the iPad Pro's ass for one simple reason: it's an actual computer, running an actual desktop OS
Right. Because the marketplace spoke SO loudly that that's EXACTLY what they wanted for the PREVIOUS DECADE that Windows-Based Tablets existed (but sold nearly ZERO units across several brands and form-factors) BEFORE the iPad waltzed in and INSTANTLY ATE THEIR LUNCH.
Face it, other than the Slashdot crowd, the MAJORITY of people do NOT want everything to be a full-featured computer. They already HAVE abundant choices for that. They want something that handles what they do MOST OFTEN (browse, email, look at vids). That's where a tablet fits in.
It may have taken, even needed, apple to make tablets cool enough for the market to seriously consider them, but they don't know how to innovate
You do realize, of course, that the above sentence-fragment is completely self-contradictory, right?
If Tablets existed before the iPad (which of course they did), and they were ALL non-starters UNTIL the iPad (which of course they were), then certainly Apple did some sort of innovation that suddenly transformed the entire idea of Tablets from "uncool" to "cool" (which of course they did).
The world is won by "good enough". Someone who's an obvious fan of a platform that fancies itself a Unix should understand that.
Jealous much?
Unlike Linux, OS X, all the way back to 10.5 Leopard up through the just-released 10.11 El Capitan, OS X is a Certified Unix. Something that no Linux will ever be.
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And for the price it should be exceptional. Fucking spectacular in fact. You don't even get a keyboard despite the absurd premium of the tablet. Personally I think I'd wait for other manufacturers to catch up and avail of the substantially cheaper prices for equivalent performance.
Personally, I'm waiting for Apple to release the ARM port of OS X that they have (obviously) been working on, so I can get an iPad Pro for my "walkabout" computer.
You weren't hard enough on that AC. And I mean that sincerely.
LOL, thanks!
/. Would get rid of ACs; but like some sick Reality-Show Producers, the Powers-That-Be at Dice/Slashdot KNOW that ACs bring Controversy, and Controversy brings Page-Views... And like sad Reality-Show Contestants,we just keep on getting sucked into the fray...
;-)
I HATE ACs with a purple passion. 99% of genuine! unbridled, over-the-top Apple Hate (and I do mean pure Apple Hate, not Anti-Apple debate) comes from Karma-Fearing ACs, and I just get sick to DEATH of it!!!
You and I have gone after each other hammer and tongs quite a few times; but in the end, I respect your opinion, in no small part because you're willing to lay your Karma on the line and fight like a human...
I REALLY wish
BTW, I wasn't ducking your last Post. I actually do have quite a bit of paid experience in embedded design (about 40 year's worth), but unfortunately that does NOT include any iOS development, but mostly in industrial real-time measurement and control systems and products. Although, like you, I have used Macs for development work (including back in the 80's and 90's, when it was quite challenging to find Mac-based tools!). However, since the embedded development market has devolved into almost exclusively short-term Contract work, for the past few years, and probably on into retirement, I write Windows Application Code for a living (retch!!!)
Unfortunately, I do not have the luxury of living 90 mins. from 1 Infinite Loop (and yes I am sincerely jealous), but rather am stuck in the embedded-design desert of Indiana; so I concede that you probably have better "insider" information about Apple than do I.
However, as a user of Apple Products since the Apple 1 (which I still have), and a user of Macs since they were Lisas (and I don't mean Macintosh XLs), and a long-time acquaintance of Woz, I really do believe that Apple is not just another company; but rather, at least most of the time, really DOES try to do better, and really DOES value its Customers, and their Privacy and "Product Experience" (to borrow an overused Microsoft Marketing phrase), and since I sincerely believe that they have the best OS overall for both Desktop and Mobile, I will continue to use (and defend, when necessary) their products and business practices until I Feel Different(tm).
Completely off-topic: Do you or your friends know how to once-and-for-all cure the dreaded "Greyed Songs" problem in iTunes?!?! I have a friend that, after getting frustrated with the lifespan of his (many) iPod Classics, finally got fed up and bought a Fiio X5 Gen 2 music player. Fairly nice specs, and had nice things like SDXC card storage; but the "OS" SUUUUCKED, and after not being able to even have bloody Playlists on the thing without learning to Code (he is NOT a developer in any form), at my urging, he bought an 128 GB iPod Touch, 6th Gen. Well, in addition to having ABYSMAL battery life (like 4 hours just playing music, rather than the 40 hours claimed), he also has several songs in his huge collection (he claims it's always the same songs) that are greyed-out in iTunes, and nothing I have been able to Google has helped. He has synced with a USB cable several times (although he hasn't done a complete wipe and reload of the iPod's Music Library), and has tried almost every internet-forum witchery imaginable, but still the greyed songs remain. So between that and the ridiculous battery life, he is (understandably) ready to throw in the towel and return the iPod and go back to his Fiio.
Do you or your friends have any suggestions? This is the most non-Apple experience I have ever seen, and it is turning a Windows User on the verge of switching to Macs (rather than suffer Windows 10, Spyware Edition) and a long-time iPod User, into someone who will likely never own another Apple Product, even though his wife has been a Mac user for over a decade.
Missing hardware is no reason to not offer a feature - many Android phones pretend to have gyroscopic sensors by faking something together from accelerometers and the compass.
Depends on the hardware, and the feature, moron.
Let's see you fake some NFC communications, Biometric sensors, or force-sensitive touchscreen, genius.
Apple does some of that "faking" too. For example, They faked gyros before they had them, just like Android, and they currently fake GPS on the iPod Touch using WiFi location data. And on the Application level, many Apps, notably Games, have to adjust their behavior depending upon the iOS Device/iOS Version that they are running on.
But sometimes, you just can't code your way out of hardware requirements.
BTW, this happens on Android, too, dumbass.
Ask Google, Apple, and Microsoft how they get their updates approved. I'm sure that will work for the OEMs, as well. I mean, it must be working for the OEMs, as well; though they are few and far between, non-Nexus Android updates do exist in the wild.
Well, for Apple, it's simple: They were smarter than Google, and kept control of their products all the way through the Distribution Chain.
Also, why does it seem that every time I post in an Android or iOS discussion, you come along and comment? You must like me.
Turn the question around: Why does it seem that you have to post the same Apple-Hate comments every time there is an Android or Apple Article? I'm simply there to prevent you from your lies and exaggerations being the "last word".
To take it even farther, I live in the bay area, less than 90 minutes from 1 Infinite Loop, and actually have friends working at Apple, in real life and not just on the intertubes. They don't argue with my assessment, or try to defend their employer's actions; on the contrary, they confirm that it is technically possible and that I am correct. And yes, one of them works on iPad hardware and the other works on iOS. Is that insider enough for you?
They don't argue with you, because they are tired of hearing it, and want to still be friends.
Has any of them come to you and said "Listen to what Apple's doing now! This is total bullshit! They could easily make [x] happen, and are crippling it on purpose just to sell the new model." And of course you can't code a fingerprint reader or touch-sensitive digitizer into a product, duh! But your complaint about Siri is unfounded. Sure, Apple could maintain two complete versions of Siri, but I would bet that wouldn't be a small thing to just have lying around dormant in most Devices; so they made a decision to drop the software version. Happens.
As for your argument about the Atrix, that's a complete strawman. It runs a different SoC, with a different GPU, and in fact, could have had capabilities that were not included in the Ax SoCs until later. Do your friends say different?
As for your bald-assertion that the IPA can support App-Sidebarring (sorry, don't know what you mean) that that automatically means it should be able to support split-screening may or may not be true. And what about the additional RAM requirements? Does the IPA have enough for full split-screening, and having two active Apps at one time? It isn't just the GPU, you know...
That is the first viable soluion I've heard to the problem. Good on you for coming up with it; I'm guessing you're the first person to respond to one of my comments on the topic who isn't an Apple or MS (eesh) fanboi.
Ma'm (and please correct me if my gender assumption is incorrect), it is refreshing to once again see intelligent discussion on Slashdot and, for that, I thank you. It's a pity that you'll probably be moderated into oblivion for it.
I agree that is a nice idea; but not a viable one; because, at a measly 5%, it simply isn't "enough skin in the game" for the OEM to go through all the extra testing to make sure a new build still runs ok on the old hardware. For example, all it takes is one array expansion and what SEEMS like it ought to be fine, ends up crashing repeatedly on 90% of last-year's model. 5% just ain't worth it for an OEM.
And then there's the Carriers... Where's their incentive?
Google created the problem.
And Google can fix the problem. But it doesn't.
Why?
And it's not like I don't have any iOS devices in my home, through which I might actually know what I'm talking about. The Gen1 iPad, iPad Air, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6 Plus (along with the iPhone 5 it replaced, the iPhone 4 that replaced, and the iPhone 3G that replaced) surely count for nothing
And let's just see how many are still supported in iOS 9:
iPad Air - Check!
iPad Air 2 - Check!
iPhone 6 Plus - Check!
iPhone 5 - Check!
So, out of your curiously overlapping models (why do you feel the need to upgrade virtually EVERY cycle?), 4 out of 7 of your iOS Devices are STILL being actively Supported, and one (the Gen1 iPad, released April 2010) had its last update only a year ago, and the other 2 are over 5 years old (iPhone 3G, released July 2008; iPhone 4, released June 2010).
So, since you obviously own many iOS Devices (many more than I have, BTW), including some very recent models (iPhone 6 plus, which I also have, and am very pleased with), why do you spend so much time bashing them with the same rhetoric time and again in these forums? Something doesn't add up.
What they fail to recognize is that software support for iOS devices stops the moment Apple stops selling the device
Right. That's why they released an iOS update specifically for the FIRST GENERATION iPad in May, 2014, and why my iPad 2 and iPhone 4s are STILL supported in iOS 9.
and the fact that, while they might be running the most recent version of iOS, they only get the most recent features on the most recent devices (I'm glaring at iOS9 for the omission of splitscreening on the iPad Air [which I own], which is more than capable of supporting it; and the sad excuse that was given for Siri only being included in iOS for the 4s when it ran just gone on the 3gs as an app before Apple bought the company).
You don't know if the GPU built into the processor in your IPA is capable of supporting two GraphPorts. I would suspect that is NOT the case; because the REGISTERS are simply not there to stuff with the begin/end coordinates, etc. Prove me wrong.
Same thing with Siri. Apple's implementation of Siri (as opposed to the generic App) obviously was changed to leverage custom HARDWARE in the SoC that simply didn't exist pre-iPhone 4s (which, curiously enough, is the same excuse you allow for Google and Nexus).
Why is it that you allow for the "insufficient hardware resources" excuse for Google and Nexus; but not for Apple and iOS Devices? You have absolutely no insider knowledge that could prove otherwise; so, until then, STFU.
Guess again. iOS updates don't do well on older phones by design.
Sure. That's why Apple has released Updates specifically to address performance issues on older devices.
Android is open!
Yes. Yes it is. Perhaps a little TOO "open", yes?
And it still has higher marketshare than iOS!
Perhaps true, in the sub $100 shitbox phone category. But nowhere else. And phones and tablets that are sitting in desk drawers unused don't count.
Yes, iOS has had, er, ONE that could maybe have been an Exploit (but likely actually not); but Android has had about a Googolplex (haha) of them.
Why do you think that is? And don't say it's because it is the more popular platform; because that is the epitome of a strawman argument. iOS is PLENTY popular enough to be worth exploiting. So it must be something else.
Perhaps it's because the malware writers know that, on Android, the Exploit will be available on a significant number of handsets for months, even years, while conversely, on iOS, an Exploit will quickly be patched, and the patch quickly rolled-out, to most, if not all, handsets.
Android is a failed experiment as far as distribution of software fixes and updates goes. And don't blame the Carriers and OEMs. Google could put its foot down; but doesn't. Version after version; year after year; exploit after exploit.
Why?
and to do so without compensation.
If challenged, that clause will certainly run afoul of the 13th Amendment's prohibition against Slavery.
No Court will order someone to work for free. Even Public Defenders are paid a per diem when ordered by the Court sue sponte to represent someone. Even prisoners are paid a wage when working (however miniscule).
This is asinine, and the provision will be instantly struck down, maybe even with the provision that they have to provide services after being discharged. Any even half-reasonable Court would see that for what it is: The Corporation trying to have its cake and eat it, too.
I am well-aware that you can knowingly and willfully abrogate your Constitutional Rights; but if this was only part of a "Severance Agreement", then there is little chance the Courts will uphold it, and even if it was part of an employment contract, in most jurisdictions, non-compete clauses (which this essentially is; because what happens if you are working at another job, and Sun Bank tries to exercise that clause to drag you back to work on a Project for them?) are pretty-much universally disfavored, if not downright nullified, by the Courts and/or Legislatures.
My God, the most expensive MacBook Pro will only set you back $2499. The equivalent Surface Book costs $200 more, but it still has the same integrated Intel GPU as the MBP.
Of course it costs more, it has an active digitizer and touchscreen so the price is about right relative to the MBP.
so maybe, just maybe, Apple hasn't been "gouging" all this time
Or more likely Microsoft is following Apple's playbook.
The MBP has an active, force-sensitive, multitouch trackpad. Pretty much as much cost as adding that to a display these days.
No. I think that my original statement about cost to do things "right" is correct. And I have several industrial control product designs under my belt to prove it.
Ahh, the hubris of people who think that THEIR project is so important. Only a small minority of iOS users even know what TOR is and only infinitesimal percentage of iOS wants it on their devices.
Speak for yourself, infidel!
I agree with most if not all of what you said.
For me, I think that unless I needed some tablet-only feature I'd probably just buy a nice laptop for ~$2000 and call it good. You can get a pretty nice laptop for $2K although I don't see very many with pressure-sensitive screens (a few are available, though).
Well, the MacBook Pros have Pressure-Sensitive, Multitouch Trackpads about the size of an iPhone screen. Does that count?
Microsoft's 1TB Surface Book will cost you $3199 (plus tax), which seems a bit steep to me.
And people whine about Apple gouging for "commodity PC hardware"?
My God, the most expensive MacBook Pro will only set you back $2499. The equivalent Surface Book costs $200 more, but it still has the same integrated Intel GPU as the MBP.
And of course the MBP has an OS that both respects your privacy and knows that its a Desktop OS.
But I guess if you are trapped into the MS ecosystem (which you could also run on an MBP, if you wanted), then the 1TB Surface Book may be what you want... When it finally ships in January, 2016.
By the way, it seems like spec for spec, the MBPs and Surface Books are priced pretty closely; so maybe, just maybe, Apple hasn't been "gouging" all this time, and it really does cost a little more to up the build and component quality, eh?
Ironically all I thought was poor value devices to both. I miss Bill buying shoes.
And I suppose you miss the Vista OS that went along with that campaign.
The OS that sucked so hard that MS stopped advertising the name "Microsoft" along with Vista, and just started calling it "Windows" (not Microsoft Windows)?
So basically in the same place as in windows 7 and 8. Still you'd think that if Microsoft were going to automatically toggle this button's appearance, they'd hide it when you plug in a real keyboard and show it when you remove the keyboard.
Sounds like the Tablet Experience team and the Desktop Experience team can't tell True from False.
First off I'd say that the Surface Pro 4 SHOULD kick the iPad Pro's ass for one simple reason: it's an actual computer, running an actual desktop OS
Right. Because the marketplace spoke SO loudly that that's EXACTLY what they wanted for the PREVIOUS DECADE that Windows-Based Tablets existed (but sold nearly ZERO units across several brands and form-factors) BEFORE the iPad waltzed in and INSTANTLY ATE THEIR LUNCH.
Face it, other than the Slashdot crowd, the MAJORITY of people do NOT want everything to be a full-featured computer. They already HAVE abundant choices for that. They want something that handles what they do MOST OFTEN (browse, email, look at vids). That's where a tablet fits in.
Remember Jobs' comments at the debut of the iPad? That's the genius of the iPad.
Slashdot is full of nothing but a bunch of computer luddites. The general public has moved on. Why not Slashdotters?
I'm sure we'll see an MS Watch sometime in the next few years
And dollars to donuts its great claim to fame will be that it runs Office365, Watch Edition.
It may have taken, even needed, apple to make tablets cool enough for the market to seriously consider them, but they don't know how to innovate
You do realize, of course, that the above sentence-fragment is completely self-contradictory, right?
If Tablets existed before the iPad (which of course they did), and they were ALL non-starters UNTIL the iPad (which of course they were), then certainly Apple did some sort of innovation that suddenly transformed the entire idea of Tablets from "uncool" to "cool" (which of course they did).
Is not that the very essence of "innovation"?
Apple is the world famous patent troll,
I don't think you understand what a Patent Troll is.
The world is won by "good enough". Someone who's an obvious fan of a platform that fancies itself a Unix should understand that.
Jealous much?
Unlike Linux, OS X, all the way back to 10.5 Leopard up through the just-released 10.11 El Capitan, OS X is a Certified Unix. Something that no Linux will ever be.
OK, I ignored he Apple users. They are on a better planet.
FTFY.