What kind of work surface solution do you have for this?
Come on, stop trying to look for ways this is my fault. Apple could have made the device easier to hold and really should do so. They could put a small ridge on back so I don't have to put a much larger case on it just so I can hold it.
They figured out the slippery seed-shaped iPhone 3 was a bad idea eventually and went to something you can hold properly. Maybe they'll figure out with the iPad at some point too.
How in the FUCK could Apple make the iPad "easier to hold" in ALL orientations?
Get a fucking CASE. When I read/browse with my iPad in bed, if I lay on my side, I disable the auto-rotate feature, and the case turns into a "chevron", which nicely holds the iPad. When I read/browse on my back, then my case already is designed to hold the iPad at several angles. Again, not a problem.
Having said that, I would like to get one of those cylindrical bean-bag "pillows" for using the iPad while sitting in a chair, because my case doesn't seem to have a goo angle for that use.
The lack of Siri seems a bit annoying. Perhaps many people wouldn't use those features on it anyways, but it just rubs me the wrong way when manufacturers remove functionality they already have and could easily have included in order to segment the market or make sure people buy one of everything. For that matter removing features from cheaper models is somewhat reasonable, but the iPad is a premium product with a premium price.
And Siri is a free software service with less-than-infinite processing power and bandwidth.
Think about it. How many times do you REALLY need the kinds of questions answered that Siri is designed for while sitting stationary with your iPad?
"Find me the closest [fill in the blank]" makes a LOT more sense on a device that fits in your pocket. Similarly, "Check my appointments" also makes more sense "on the go", than on something that is usually not used while driving/walking.
And oh, BTW, the iPad is actually pretty much price-equivalent with the iPhone 4s. You're just forgetting that iPhones are usually purchased on a "subsidized" basis, whereas iPads are not.
So how much accounting, sales order processing, customer relations management, HR, payroll,stock control and other business related software is available on a Mac? Or Linux?
Glad you asked!
My personal favorite in the ERP world is xTuple (formerly Open Mfg). They even have a free QuickBooks-Like version. Speaking as an ERP software dev. myself, this package is strong enough that I have seriously considered becoming a VAR for it.
Then there are the interesting database/app-generation systems, such as Omnis (which had the whole idea of "web apps" NAILED more than a decade ago), and, last but certainly not least, 4D, also sporting a wonderful web-app solution. Both are big database-oriented Application-Creation packages that have marched along for years, never quite getting traction, but never quite falling over, either! In fact, 4D's web server was eventually spun-off into its own product (name escapes me, sorry!), and has the enviable reputation of not only being faster that snot, but also has never been hacked... Both Omnis and 4D embraced the concept of being able to "publish" applications directly on the web, such that the apps retained all, or nearly all, of the look-and-feel of the "desktop" versions. Quite cool, actually.
And the hidden advantage is that pretty much all, if not all, of the Mac business software is actually cross-platform; so you get platform-independence "for free". What's not to like about that?!?
As far as CAD/CAE tools go, there are several choices. My personal favorite is VectorWorks, which whips all-over AutoCAD (but maybe not so much on Inventor). I have a longstanding Mac consulting client, who has to live in a world of architects who use AutoCAD, and he has zero problems using VectorWorks with their files, import or export. The only "problem" is that VectorWorks actually supports many things that AutoCAD does not; so he has to be somewhat careful not to use features that AutoCAD (by all rights, should, but) does not support. In fact, when AutoCAD became available (again) for Macs, he wasn't the slightest bit interested in switching away from VectorWorks. And although not widely known in this country, the extremely high-end CAD/CAM/CAE system Siemens PLM NX/UG (Unigraphics) has been available on OS X since at least 2009, and is also available on Linux.
And let's not forget Qt. It's a royal pain to develop in; but you can certainly churn out some pretty complex cross-platform apps in the environment. Eagle PCB is a good example of how advanced a Qt-based app can get...
As a (now former, I guess) embedded developer, I used to lament the lack of good (or really, ANY) development tools for Macs. But even that has been (slowly) changing. Microchip now supports both Macs and Linux with MPLab X (helped along considerably by the acquisition of Hi-Tech, and their cross-platform C Compilers). And BTW, Microchip even addresses the question of "Why not just
Not quite--the 14MHz was 4 times the 3.58 MHz color subcarrier, but could be divided into other useful things.
Pixels hit the scene at twice that rate, potential creating a roughly 3.58 MHz square wave if they alternated.
color came partly from "tickling" this, thus the half-pixel shift in hires--and the vague purple tint to the text until the rev 7 motherboard.
hawk
Yeah, you're right. It was related to the color burst frequency.
And the purple tint was actually alternating purple and green, and when Apple integrated the "color killer" mod into the motherboard, it still didn't help the text when using "mixed mode" (4 lines of text at the bottom, graphics up top).
So what would it take then? What server software and mac software "interfaces" are needed to do this that don't exist in some way now?
Is it really just Exchange/Outlook?
For the most part, MS is down to Office and Exchange/Outlook, for their stranglehold on business (oh and don't forget the collusive IT handmaidens).
Even if you maintained a couple of intense Server Boxes running Windows VMs that ran Terminal Services for the business apps (like MS Dynamics GP, NAV, and AX), I still submit that the "employee-facing" machines would be MUCH better served (no pun) as Macs.
Or, you could look into something cross-platform, like the Open Source xTuple (which runs on OS X, Linux and Windows) for your ERP, you could dispense with Windows for that, too. That leaves Exchange/Outlook. Does anyone know where the Kerio Exhange replacement sits at this point?
Sorry friend but Apple doesn't have a prayer, and here is why: Jobs made it VERY clear years ago he had no desire to sell to the "poor unwashed' and that has carried over to this very day. I just recently sold yet another monster Windows PC, you know how much it cost INCLUDING my profit margin, which wasn't light? $520. That's it, for SIX cores, EIGHT gigs of RAM, 500Gb HDD, DVD Burner and Win 7 HP X64. Now you can't even get a machine half that powerful for $1000 in Apple land and that is how they LIKE it. Now frankly it doesn't matter if YOU think its cheap, the average person in America is making around $37k, don't take my word for it BTW, ask those you are in line with at the grocery store or the bank what they make a year, most will be happy to tell you. When you make $37k or less you simply aren't gonna spend a grand on an underpowered machine and NO the iPad can't replace the desktop for a good 85% of the population and NO the iPhone don't cut it either, as there is always ONE application they consider a "must have" that don't run on Apple, be it Quicken/QB, the app that came with their printer, hell I even have one customer I had to keep a NOS 2GHz PC running for as he slowly converted from Xres to Corel Draw.
Look I'm not saying Apple is bad for this, in fact I'd argue its a damned smart move. look at what happened when Porsche tried to sell a Camaro priced Boxster, it damned near killed the company as it killed the "cool" factor of owning a Porsche. If you could buy an Apple desktop for the same price i can whip off a monster, or even for roughly the same price you can get one at HP or Dell THEN you might have a point. But that will never ever happen friend and you know this.
In the end da Feet can tell you the future, just let me dig out my crystal ball.....OEMs demand Win 7 downgrade rights, MSFT caves to keep them from bolting to Android or buying their own Linux distros, Win 8 fizzles on tablets but nobody cares because Windows 7 is supported until 2020 and moreover "just works" with all their stuff so to Joe consumer nothing has changed. In fact all Win 8 has done is made guys like me more money as consumers get spooked and have me build a monster so they can ride out the Win 8 crapfest without needing a new PC. In fact I've done well enough that after I get done setting up my dad's new router tomorrow I'm buying a new 6 core for the oldest to go with the quad i just built for the youngest. I figured with one on Hexacore and the other on quad I and myself on hexacore we can just ride out Win 8 while still gaming and having a great old time. Don't worry about us MSFT, you keep pushing that cell phone UI, and i'll keep making money off those that don't want it, deal?
Sorry friend but Apple doesn't have a prayer, and here is why: Jobs made it VERY clear years ago he had no desire to sell to the "poor unwashed' and that has carried over to this very day. I just recently sold yet another monster Windows PC, you know how much it cost INCLUDING my profit margin, which wasn't light? $520. That's it, for SIX cores, EIGHT gigs of RAM, 500Gb HDD, DVD Burner and Win 7 HP X64. Now you can't even get a machine half that powerful for $1000 in Apple land and that is how they LIKE it. Now frankly it doesn't matter if YOU think its cheap, the average person in America is making around $37k, don't take my word for it BTW, ask those you are in line with at the grocery store or the bank what they make a year, most will be happy to tell you. When you make $37k or less you simply aren't gonna spend a grand on an underpowered machine and NO the iPad can't replace the desktop for a good 85% of the population and NO the iPhone don't cut it either, as there is always ONE application they consider a "must have" that don't run on Apple, be it Quicken/QB, the app that came with their printer, hell I even have one customer I had to keep a NOS 2GHz PC running for as he slowly converted from Xres to Corel Draw.
Look I'm not saying Apple is bad for this, in fact
Who is selling other OSs? Apple will only sell you an OS with a 2k hardware dongle. Linux is free.
Um, Macs start at $600.
And anyone who thinks a Mac mini with a dual-core 2.3GHz i5 isn't powerful enough for the secretary, sales, accounting, doctor's office, boss' office, production manager's office, factory-floor, web-designer, code developer (not everyone compiles OSes or gigantic games), et frickin' cetera, and even some light "server" applications is simply delusional.
You're developing in Navision? You have my sympathies.
I actually enjoy writing C/AL code. It's bog simple, and pretty fast.
I have developed some pretty out-of-the-box stuff in NAV. I just wish that MS would quit deprecating feature after feature, and doing their usual dance of "technology du jour" madness. But that's "our" Microsoft!
We won't discuss the hell-hole that is their new, Visual Studio-Based Report Writer, though...
Not really. Apple didn't have to deal with PowerPC applications. They told the market to deal with it. Could Microsoft do this? Yes. Should they? Yes. Not saying I like Metro, I don't. But at some point, the get-off-my-lawn folks need to get over themselves, it's not 1995 anymore and a weak Microsoft stuck supporting multiple UIs isn't good for business.
Actually, Apple provided several tools to ease that transition (hell, it HAD to!)
Fantastic JIT Compiling built into the OS, that worked SO well that Apple themselves left parts of the Finder and other OS pieces-parts as 68k code for several OS revisions.
"Fat Binaries", which like the later "Universal Binaries", allowed developers to package both 68k and PPC code in the same application bundle, with the OS seamlessly choosing the correct version to use.
Hell I wish I could find the video again from the little Yahoo shill girl, they give her any crap product and she is always "You should buy it! Buy it now! No seriously you should go out and buy it now!" and when they gave her Windows 8 her video was "Uhhhh...maybe you should wait until you get something with touch before you buy Windows 8? Yeah that's what you should do, buy a tablet and THEN buy Windows 8!" which for her is "My eyes! The goggles they do nothing!". I mean that's fricking sad when the girl that got giddy over a universal remote can't even muster enough perky to shill for your product and has this kind of...lost and confused look on her face through the entire video, damn it was funny!
TRULY ROFL!!! Thanx, Hairyfeet!
As a dyed-in-the-wool Apple enthusiast, I can only say:
Go, Metro, Go!!!
If they keep pushing this butt-ugly, real-estate-wasting, six-year-old's version of a UI (might be ok for a tablet; cannot believe they are pushing it for the desktop!), Microsoft will, over time, become seriously marginalized in "Business". OS X is already making serious inroads in that regard, and as soon as someone (anyone?!?) comes up with a reasonable Exchange/Outlook killer, they're toast!
Assuming, of course, that IT stops getting head from the Dell and HP sales guys, and learns that it doesn't HAVE to mean the end of their job to start spec-ing Apple (too bad the XServe died due to that mentality)...
So, how about this compromise, slashdotters? : Linux in the server room, Apple in the front office? That way, we can stop this useless warring, and unite against the tasteless megalith known as Microsoft...
C'mon guys: Whaddya say? IT gets to keep its Computer Priesthood (because NOBODY wants to be bothered learning to set up Linux servers), and the boss and the secretaries get teh shiny!!!
Ok, the Olive Branch has been officially extended: Can we make this the Decade of Lin-X(tm)???
I am a developer working for an ISV selling third-party enhancements to MS Dynamics NAV (formerly called Navision). My bosses are at Convergence right now.
I certainly hope that MS doesn't roll this shite out to the rest of the "Dynamics" family. They have already hamstrung layout and created ridiculous UI faux-pas-es enough with their "Role Tailored Client" (tell me WHO else makes the default for deleting records be "YES"?!?!?).
This is just hideous. And I fear it is a-comin', like the shark in Jaws....
But yet, once again, it is Apple that gets singled-out.
Fucktard.
Oh, is the poor fanboy hurt? Apple started that shit, and they're higher profile than any other vendor so of course they're going to be singled out for it.
No, the GP claimed that I was "making shit up" when I said that both Android and Windows phones do what he claimed that (at least Android) DID NOT.
Substandard my ass. Other than a bit of a firmware the only real difference between an iMac and any other x86 machine from a quality vendor is about $300 dollars which is the other thing getting them thrown out of here.
Our local school system (Indianapolis Public Schools) switched from giving students Macbooks (2010-11) to Dell laptops (this year).
The Macbooks worked flawlessly from day one. Students and teachers loved them.
But then the Dell rep came in and gave them "a better deal"...
NONE of the Dells have EVER worked. AT ALL. Not surprisingly, they are reviled by Students and Teachers alike (big surprise).
I will agree that Lion is somewhat of OS X's "Vista", LOL! Too many changes, too fast. Or soemthing. I think that is why Apple is hurrying-up with Mountain Lion, which by all reports, is dead-stable, even in it's Developer Preview form. Let's hope. For my own machines, I run Tiger on one, and Leopard on the other. I, however, manage several Snow Leopard systems (I don't recommend Lion to anyone).
If Apple turns around some of their customer hostile moves...
I wouldn't exactly them "customer hostile", considering their top Customer-Satisfaction ratings, year-after-year.
I once had to service a really thin Dell notebook. Putting that back together took 2 techs (4 hands were needed) and about an hour of fuking with it until the tiny little 1 inch ribbon cable in the middle of the MB would align properly. I swear they did that on purpose so a non-tech couldn't service it. Hell, 2 trained PC techs could barely service it.
So, you admit that it ISN'T "Just Apple" after all??? You CERTAINLY imply that.
If that really helps you sleep at night, whatever. Apple invented *everything*.
--Jeremy
Never said that, did I?
But it's pretty much common-knowledge that Android's "look and feel" changed dramatically from a "Blackberry clone" (one theft) to an "iOS Clone" (another theft) after the iPhone came out.
I'm sorry, but up yours. I took apart my own dryer and diagnosed it when it broke. It was just the door switch. I bought a replacement online, installed it, and it worked just fine. The device is simple enough that we needed a screwdriver, a multi-meter, and a lot of grunting and cursing. It didn't need someone coming in at $50/hour, or a replacement part that cost $50. Jesus christ, would you just starve to death in the dark if the power went out and you couldn't call in someone to hold your hand?
And since I'm 1 person out of the 7 billion people on this planet, it's at least 1.424e-8% of the populace as to the 1.0e-15% like you propose. I'll put linux on my toaster if I damn well want to.
As I commented before, I also fix anything I can (cars (pretty much all repairs), washer, dryer, refrigerator, plumbing, installed my furnace and subsequently replaced an ignitor, replaced water heater, remodeled bathroom (took out a window, stripped the walls and floor down to the studs, replaced a stud, installed new plumbing, toilet, bathtub and sink, flooring, drywall, you-name-it) with no help from anyone but my housemate on any of this (for the two-person stuff)). Plus I repair all my electronics (where possible) (TV, VCR, DVD player, Microwave, Tape Deck, Stereo and Instrument amps, Computers (pretty much everything down to the "modular" level on both Wintel and Apple machines) (also including several "white box" computers built for friends and employers). I have also built at least one audio power amp and a preamp from a (Dynaco) kit, and as a hobbyist, have designed an built dozens of electronic thingamabobs, starting from when I was 16 years old (I am 55 now). So, don't preach to me about DIY.
HOWEVER...
As someone with several industrial product designs under my belt, I also understand when tradeoffs between "serviceability" and other design goals (cost, aesthetics, and RELIABILITY) have to be made, or should be made; because there is little to be gained, and perhaps even more to be lost, by placing "serviceability" above all.
And there is another lurking problem with making a battery with the capacity of the iPad's "user-replaceable". Safety. Not only is having the consumer handle a piece of borosilicate glass inherently a lawsuit-in-waiting (no matter HOW it comes off) (and yes I know that a "battery door" could be added to eliminate that problem); but more importantly, do you have ANY idea how much HEAT would be produced if you dead-shorted a battery like in the iPad???
Re: Exhibit 1. I can only assume this was configured by T-Mobile, and has nothing to do with the the phone's operating system. Once again, Android is open source, you can look at the default settings it is configured with if not changed by phone manufacturer or supplier, and they do not include any such message.
Re: Exhibit 2. I never denied that Windows Phone does this. Windows Phone is a horrible system that doesn't deserve to ever be used, so I'm not going to defend it in any way.
So, when you said that this doesn't happen on Android, and I (and now others) point out that you are simply lying through your teeth, you switch to a strawman non-sequitur "argument".
I'm officially "done" with your retarded, lying, zealot bullshit.
Even better, on the Android side you see "Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on the NOW Network from Sprint" or "Sent from my Android Transformer whatever". It's not only one brand, but several brands.
Exactly. Anyone who claims differently is deluded or illiterate. Period.
Most of the design decisions have to do with the fact that the consumer is only willing to pay $50 for that DVD burner, and OEMs are only willing to pay $15 (or less). That isn't "greed", that's "market pressure".
That's the lack of awareness part I mentioned. Paying $50 for a DVD player isn't a good deal if it lasts less than half as long as a $100 DVD player. When the market decides on an inefficient solution, that's not the market working, that's the market failing.
Which is exactly why I only purchase Apple computers and mobile devices. Because the initial (slightly) higher cost is paid back in spades over time.
Yes yes...I'm the conspiracy theorist when the article is about that. Please, your frothing at the mouth defending Apple. Nobody is saying that their iMacs are sealed like vaults.
No, you said:
Nobody was talking about OS upgrades, this whole thread is about the idea that self-repairs and upgrades are becoming impossible as Apple seals their devices tighter and tighter. [Emphasis added]
Since the iMac and Mac Mini are also "devices" (a generic term), and are "Apple" (obviously), you most certainly WERE talking about a general trend at Apple. You did NOT say "As Apple seals the iPad tighter and tighter.." (which, BTW, would not be true, either). Therefore, it is you that needs to step away from the conversation, as you are contributing nothing but noise. No "information" has been conveyed at all in any of your posts in this thread.
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No microphone headset or bt mouse profile
You do realize, of course, that iOS wasn't designed for mouse input, right?
Work surface?
I'm reading books in bed.
What kind of work surface solution do you have for this?
Come on, stop trying to look for ways this is my fault. Apple could have made the device easier to hold and really should do so. They could put a small ridge on back so I don't have to put a much larger case on it just so I can hold it.
They figured out the slippery seed-shaped iPhone 3 was a bad idea eventually and went to something you can hold properly. Maybe they'll figure out with the iPad at some point too.
How in the FUCK could Apple make the iPad "easier to hold" in ALL orientations?
Get a fucking CASE. When I read/browse with my iPad in bed, if I lay on my side, I disable the auto-rotate feature, and the case turns into a "chevron", which nicely holds the iPad. When I read/browse on my back, then my case already is designed to hold the iPad at several angles. Again, not a problem.
Having said that, I would like to get one of those cylindrical bean-bag "pillows" for using the iPad while sitting in a chair, because my case doesn't seem to have a goo angle for that use.
The lack of Siri seems a bit annoying. Perhaps many people wouldn't use those features on it anyways, but it just rubs me the wrong way when manufacturers remove functionality they already have and could easily have included in order to segment the market or make sure people buy one of everything. For that matter removing features from cheaper models is somewhat reasonable, but the iPad is a premium product with a premium price.
And Siri is a free software service with less-than-infinite processing power and bandwidth.
Think about it. How many times do you REALLY need the kinds of questions answered that Siri is designed for while sitting stationary with your iPad?
"Find me the closest [fill in the blank]" makes a LOT more sense on a device that fits in your pocket. Similarly, "Check my appointments" also makes more sense "on the go", than on something that is usually not used while driving/walking.
And oh, BTW, the iPad is actually pretty much price-equivalent with the iPhone 4s. You're just forgetting that iPhones are usually purchased on a "subsidized" basis, whereas iPads are not.
So how much accounting, sales order processing, customer relations management, HR, payroll,stock control and other business related software is available on a Mac? Or Linux?
Glad you asked!
My personal favorite in the ERP world is xTuple (formerly Open Mfg). They even have a free QuickBooks-Like version. Speaking as an ERP software dev. myself, this package is strong enough that I have seriously considered becoming a VAR for it.
Then, there are the longstanding AccountEdge/MYOB, and AppGen/Custom Suite (AppGen Custom Suite is pretty cool, IMHO). I also see FlexWare Accounting, which has a Manufacturing add-on. Don't know much about FlexWare; but it looks pretty complete.
Then there are the interesting database/app-generation systems, such as Omnis (which had the whole idea of "web apps" NAILED more than a decade ago), and, last but certainly not least, 4D, also sporting a wonderful web-app solution. Both are big database-oriented Application-Creation packages that have marched along for years, never quite getting traction, but never quite falling over, either! In fact, 4D's web server was eventually spun-off into its own product (name escapes me, sorry!), and has the enviable reputation of not only being faster that snot, but also has never been hacked... Both Omnis and 4D embraced the concept of being able to "publish" applications directly on the web, such that the apps retained all, or nearly all, of the look-and-feel of the "desktop" versions. Quite cool, actually.
And the hidden advantage is that pretty much all, if not all, of the Mac business software is actually cross-platform; so you get platform-independence "for free". What's not to like about that?!?
As far as CAD/CAE tools go, there are several choices. My personal favorite is VectorWorks, which whips all-over AutoCAD (but maybe not so much on Inventor). I have a longstanding Mac consulting client, who has to live in a world of architects who use AutoCAD, and he has zero problems using VectorWorks with their files, import or export. The only "problem" is that VectorWorks actually supports many things that AutoCAD does not; so he has to be somewhat careful not to use features that AutoCAD (by all rights, should, but) does not support. In fact, when AutoCAD became available (again) for Macs, he wasn't the slightest bit interested in switching away from VectorWorks. And although not widely known in this country, the extremely high-end CAD/CAM/CAE system Siemens PLM NX/UG (Unigraphics) has been available on OS X since at least 2009, and is also available on Linux.
And let's not forget Qt. It's a royal pain to develop in; but you can certainly churn out some pretty complex cross-platform apps in the environment. Eagle PCB is a good example of how advanced a Qt-based app can get... As a (now former, I guess) embedded developer, I used to lament the lack of good (or really, ANY) development tools for Macs. But even that has been (slowly) changing. Microchip now supports both Macs and Linux with MPLab X (helped along considerably by the acquisition of Hi-Tech, and their cross-platform C Compilers). And BTW, Microchip even addresses the question of "Why not just
Not quite--the 14MHz was 4 times the 3.58 MHz color subcarrier, but could be divided into other useful things.
Pixels hit the scene at twice that rate, potential creating a roughly 3.58 MHz square wave if they alternated.
color came partly from "tickling" this, thus the half-pixel shift in hires--and the vague purple tint to the text until the rev 7 motherboard.
hawk
Yeah, you're right. It was related to the color burst frequency.
And the purple tint was actually alternating purple and green, and when Apple integrated the "color killer" mod into the motherboard, it still didn't help the text when using "mixed mode" (4 lines of text at the bottom, graphics up top).
So what would it take then? What server software and mac software "interfaces" are needed to do this that don't exist in some way now?
Is it really just Exchange/Outlook?
For the most part, MS is down to Office and Exchange/Outlook, for their stranglehold on business (oh and don't forget the collusive IT handmaidens).
Even if you maintained a couple of intense Server Boxes running Windows VMs that ran Terminal Services for the business apps (like MS Dynamics GP, NAV, and AX), I still submit that the "employee-facing" machines would be MUCH better served (no pun) as Macs.
Or, you could look into something cross-platform, like the Open Source xTuple (which runs on OS X, Linux and Windows) for your ERP, you could dispense with Windows for that, too. That leaves Exchange/Outlook. Does anyone know where the Kerio Exhange replacement sits at this point?
Sorry friend but Apple doesn't have a prayer, and here is why: Jobs made it VERY clear years ago he had no desire to sell to the "poor unwashed' and that has carried over to this very day. I just recently sold yet another monster Windows PC, you know how much it cost INCLUDING my profit margin, which wasn't light? $520. That's it, for SIX cores, EIGHT gigs of RAM, 500Gb HDD, DVD Burner and Win 7 HP X64. Now you can't even get a machine half that powerful for $1000 in Apple land and that is how they LIKE it. Now frankly it doesn't matter if YOU think its cheap, the average person in America is making around $37k, don't take my word for it BTW, ask those you are in line with at the grocery store or the bank what they make a year, most will be happy to tell you. When you make $37k or less you simply aren't gonna spend a grand on an underpowered machine and NO the iPad can't replace the desktop for a good 85% of the population and NO the iPhone don't cut it either, as there is always ONE application they consider a "must have" that don't run on Apple, be it Quicken/QB, the app that came with their printer, hell I even have one customer I had to keep a NOS 2GHz PC running for as he slowly converted from Xres to Corel Draw.
Look I'm not saying Apple is bad for this, in fact I'd argue its a damned smart move. look at what happened when Porsche tried to sell a Camaro priced Boxster, it damned near killed the company as it killed the "cool" factor of owning a Porsche. If you could buy an Apple desktop for the same price i can whip off a monster, or even for roughly the same price you can get one at HP or Dell THEN you might have a point. But that will never ever happen friend and you know this.
In the end da Feet can tell you the future, just let me dig out my crystal ball.....OEMs demand Win 7 downgrade rights, MSFT caves to keep them from bolting to Android or buying their own Linux distros, Win 8 fizzles on tablets but nobody cares because Windows 7 is supported until 2020 and moreover "just works" with all their stuff so to Joe consumer nothing has changed. In fact all Win 8 has done is made guys like me more money as consumers get spooked and have me build a monster so they can ride out the Win 8 crapfest without needing a new PC. In fact I've done well enough that after I get done setting up my dad's new router tomorrow I'm buying a new 6 core for the oldest to go with the quad i just built for the youngest. I figured with one on Hexacore and the other on quad I and myself on hexacore we can just ride out Win 8 while still gaming and having a great old time. Don't worry about us MSFT, you keep pushing that cell phone UI, and i'll keep making money off those that don't want it, deal?
Sorry friend but Apple doesn't have a prayer, and here is why: Jobs made it VERY clear years ago he had no desire to sell to the "poor unwashed' and that has carried over to this very day. I just recently sold yet another monster Windows PC, you know how much it cost INCLUDING my profit margin, which wasn't light? $520. That's it, for SIX cores, EIGHT gigs of RAM, 500Gb HDD, DVD Burner and Win 7 HP X64. Now you can't even get a machine half that powerful for $1000 in Apple land and that is how they LIKE it. Now frankly it doesn't matter if YOU think its cheap, the average person in America is making around $37k, don't take my word for it BTW, ask those you are in line with at the grocery store or the bank what they make a year, most will be happy to tell you. When you make $37k or less you simply aren't gonna spend a grand on an underpowered machine and NO the iPad can't replace the desktop for a good 85% of the population and NO the iPhone don't cut it either, as there is always ONE application they consider a "must have" that don't run on Apple, be it Quicken/QB, the app that came with their printer, hell I even have one customer I had to keep a NOS 2GHz PC running for as he slowly converted from Xres to Corel Draw.
Look I'm not saying Apple is bad for this, in fact
Who is selling other OSs? Apple will only sell you an OS with a 2k hardware dongle. Linux is free.
Um, Macs start at $600.
And anyone who thinks a Mac mini with a dual-core 2.3GHz i5 isn't powerful enough for the secretary, sales, accounting, doctor's office, boss' office, production manager's office, factory-floor, web-designer, code developer (not everyone compiles OSes or gigantic games), et frickin' cetera, and even some light "server" applications is simply delusional.
Period.
...Microsoft comes closer to death on the desktop.
Long live Linux, but not that craptacular piece of shit called "OS X"!
Gotta ask (since the customer-satisfacton numbers year-after-year would belie your "craptacular" label):
WTF, over?
Metro feels like it was designed by 5yr olds.
FTFY.
So our solution is a SCUBA tank and a Highpowered rifle? But how do get monkeyboy to open wide?
LOL! I'll hold him down...
You're developing in Navision? You have my sympathies.
I actually enjoy writing C/AL code. It's bog simple, and pretty fast.
I have developed some pretty out-of-the-box stuff in NAV. I just wish that MS would quit deprecating feature after feature, and doing their usual dance of "technology du jour" madness. But that's "our" Microsoft!
We won't discuss the hell-hole that is their new, Visual Studio-Based Report Writer, though...
Who is selling other OSs? Apple will only sell you an OS with a 2k hardware dongle. Linux is free.
...Only if your time is...
Sorry, old habits die hard. As I replied to Hairyfeet, it's high time for a truce...
Not really. Apple didn't have to deal with PowerPC applications. They told the market to deal with it. Could Microsoft do this? Yes. Should they? Yes. Not saying I like Metro, I don't. But at some point, the get-off-my-lawn folks need to get over themselves, it's not 1995 anymore and a weak Microsoft stuck supporting multiple UIs isn't good for business.
Actually, Apple provided several tools to ease that transition (hell, it HAD to!)
Fantastic JIT Compiling built into the OS, that worked SO well that Apple themselves left parts of the Finder and other OS pieces-parts as 68k code for several OS revisions.
"Fat Binaries", which like the later "Universal Binaries", allowed developers to package both 68k and PPC code in the same application bundle, with the OS seamlessly choosing the correct version to use.
Hell I wish I could find the video again from the little Yahoo shill girl, they give her any crap product and she is always "You should buy it! Buy it now! No seriously you should go out and buy it now!" and when they gave her Windows 8 her video was "Uhhhh...maybe you should wait until you get something with touch before you buy Windows 8? Yeah that's what you should do, buy a tablet and THEN buy Windows 8!" which for her is "My eyes! The goggles they do nothing!". I mean that's fricking sad when the girl that got giddy over a universal remote can't even muster enough perky to shill for your product and has this kind of...lost and confused look on her face through the entire video, damn it was funny!
TRULY ROFL!!! Thanx, Hairyfeet!
As a dyed-in-the-wool Apple enthusiast, I can only say: Go, Metro, Go!!!
If they keep pushing this butt-ugly, real-estate-wasting, six-year-old's version of a UI (might be ok for a tablet; cannot believe they are pushing it for the desktop!), Microsoft will, over time, become seriously marginalized in "Business". OS X is already making serious inroads in that regard, and as soon as someone (anyone?!?) comes up with a reasonable Exchange/Outlook killer, they're toast!
Assuming, of course, that IT stops getting head from the Dell and HP sales guys, and learns that it doesn't HAVE to mean the end of their job to start spec-ing Apple (too bad the XServe died due to that mentality)...
So, how about this compromise, slashdotters? : Linux in the server room, Apple in the front office? That way, we can stop this useless warring, and unite against the tasteless megalith known as Microsoft...
C'mon guys: Whaddya say? IT gets to keep its Computer Priesthood (because NOBODY wants to be bothered learning to set up Linux servers), and the boss and the secretaries get teh shiny!!!
Ok, the Olive Branch has been officially extended: Can we make this the Decade of Lin-X(tm)???
I am a developer working for an ISV selling third-party enhancements to MS Dynamics NAV (formerly called Navision). My bosses are at Convergence right now.
I certainly hope that MS doesn't roll this shite out to the rest of the "Dynamics" family. They have already hamstrung layout and created ridiculous UI faux-pas-es enough with their "Role Tailored Client" (tell me WHO else makes the default for deleting records be "YES"?!?!?).
This is just hideous. And I fear it is a-comin', like the shark in Jaws....
Oh, is the poor fanboy hurt? Apple started that shit, and they're higher profile than any other vendor so of course they're going to be singled out for it.
No, the GP claimed that I was "making shit up" when I said that both Android and Windows phones do what he claimed that (at least Android) DID NOT.
Learn to read, fucktard.
Substandard my ass. Other than a bit of a firmware the only real difference between an iMac and any other x86 machine from a quality vendor is about $300 dollars which is the other thing getting them thrown out of here.
Our local school system (Indianapolis Public Schools) switched from giving students Macbooks (2010-11) to Dell laptops (this year).
The Macbooks worked flawlessly from day one. Students and teachers loved them.
But then the Dell rep came in and gave them "a better deal"...
NONE of the Dells have EVER worked. AT ALL. Not surprisingly, they are reviled by Students and Teachers alike (big surprise).
I will agree that Lion is somewhat of OS X's "Vista", LOL! Too many changes, too fast. Or soemthing. I think that is why Apple is hurrying-up with Mountain Lion, which by all reports, is dead-stable, even in it's Developer Preview form. Let's hope. For my own machines, I run Tiger on one, and Leopard on the other. I, however, manage several Snow Leopard systems (I don't recommend Lion to anyone).
If Apple turns around some of their customer hostile moves...
I wouldn't exactly them "customer hostile", considering their top Customer-Satisfaction ratings, year-after-year.
I once had to service a really thin Dell notebook. Putting that back together took 2 techs (4 hands were needed) and about an hour of fuking with it until the tiny little 1 inch ribbon cable in the middle of the MB would align properly. I swear they did that on purpose so a non-tech couldn't service it. Hell, 2 trained PC techs could barely service it.
So, you admit that it ISN'T "Just Apple" after all??? You CERTAINLY imply that.
If that really helps you sleep at night, whatever. Apple invented *everything*.
--Jeremy
Never said that, did I?
But it's pretty much common-knowledge that Android's "look and feel" changed dramatically from a "Blackberry clone" (one theft) to an "iOS Clone" (another theft) after the iPhone came out.
MUST I drag out the pictures?
I'm sorry, but up yours. I took apart my own dryer and diagnosed it when it broke. It was just the door switch. I bought a replacement online, installed it, and it worked just fine. The device is simple enough that we needed a screwdriver, a multi-meter, and a lot of grunting and cursing. It didn't need someone coming in at $50/hour, or a replacement part that cost $50. Jesus christ, would you just starve to death in the dark if the power went out and you couldn't call in someone to hold your hand? And since I'm 1 person out of the 7 billion people on this planet, it's at least 1.424e-8% of the populace as to the 1.0e-15% like you propose. I'll put linux on my toaster if I damn well want to.
As I commented before, I also fix anything I can (cars (pretty much all repairs), washer, dryer, refrigerator, plumbing, installed my furnace and subsequently replaced an ignitor, replaced water heater, remodeled bathroom (took out a window, stripped the walls and floor down to the studs, replaced a stud, installed new plumbing, toilet, bathtub and sink, flooring, drywall, you-name-it) with no help from anyone but my housemate on any of this (for the two-person stuff)). Plus I repair all my electronics (where possible) (TV, VCR, DVD player, Microwave, Tape Deck, Stereo and Instrument amps, Computers (pretty much everything down to the "modular" level on both Wintel and Apple machines) (also including several "white box" computers built for friends and employers). I have also built at least one audio power amp and a preamp from a (Dynaco) kit, and as a hobbyist, have designed an built dozens of electronic thingamabobs, starting from when I was 16 years old (I am 55 now). So, don't preach to me about DIY.
HOWEVER...
As someone with several industrial product designs under my belt, I also understand when tradeoffs between "serviceability" and other design goals (cost, aesthetics, and RELIABILITY) have to be made, or should be made; because there is little to be gained, and perhaps even more to be lost, by placing "serviceability" above all.
And there is another lurking problem with making a battery with the capacity of the iPad's "user-replaceable". Safety. Not only is having the consumer handle a piece of borosilicate glass inherently a lawsuit-in-waiting (no matter HOW it comes off) (and yes I know that a "battery door" could be added to eliminate that problem); but more importantly, do you have ANY idea how much HEAT would be produced if you dead-shorted a battery like in the iPad???
Think about it.
Re: Exhibit 1. I can only assume this was configured by T-Mobile, and has nothing to do with the the phone's operating system. Once again, Android is open source, you can look at the default settings it is configured with if not changed by phone manufacturer or supplier, and they do not include any such message.
Re: Exhibit 2. I never denied that Windows Phone does this. Windows Phone is a horrible system that doesn't deserve to ever be used, so I'm not going to defend it in any way.
So, when you said that this doesn't happen on Android, and I (and now others) point out that you are simply lying through your teeth, you switch to a strawman non-sequitur "argument".
I'm officially "done" with your retarded, lying, zealot bullshit.
Even better, on the Android side you see "Sent from my Galaxy Nexus on the NOW Network from Sprint" or "Sent from my Android Transformer whatever". It's not only one brand, but several brands.
Exactly. Anyone who claims differently is deluded or illiterate. Period.
Most of the design decisions have to do with the fact that the consumer is only willing to pay $50 for that DVD burner, and OEMs are only willing to pay $15 (or less). That isn't "greed", that's "market pressure".
That's the lack of awareness part I mentioned. Paying $50 for a DVD player isn't a good deal if it lasts less than half as long as a $100 DVD player. When the market decides on an inefficient solution, that's not the market working, that's the market failing.
Which is exactly why I only purchase Apple computers and mobile devices. Because the initial (slightly) higher cost is paid back in spades over time.
Yes yes...I'm the conspiracy theorist when the article is about that. Please, your frothing at the mouth defending Apple. Nobody is saying that their iMacs are sealed like vaults.
No, you said:
Nobody was talking about OS upgrades, this whole thread is about the idea that self-repairs and upgrades are becoming impossible as Apple seals their devices tighter and tighter. [Emphasis added]
Since the iMac and Mac Mini are also "devices" (a generic term), and are "Apple" (obviously), you most certainly WERE talking about a general trend at Apple. You did NOT say "As Apple seals the iPad tighter and tighter.." (which, BTW, would not be true, either). Therefore, it is you that needs to step away from the conversation, as you are contributing nothing but noise. No "information" has been conveyed at all in any of your posts in this thread.