I'm sure many people will whine about being underwhelmed by this year's WWDC and the lack of any new hardware announcements, etc. But IMO, there were some really solid improvements shown. The "universal clipboard" is a HUGE improvement, IMO.
How often are you switching between devices like this? In a meaningful and useful way? I don't want to accidentally copy/paste some code snipped on my iPhone. I can tell you the number of times I want to actually do this: Once per iPhone connected to my WiFi network at home. That's it. I don't like having to copy/paste my WiFi key. But guess what, I can just sync that already with notes. So I guess really my count goes down to 0. Now you want to talk about a meaningful way to transfer documents between my phone and my computer? That is a different story. Right now I have to fire up webdav or use email to copy a picture or a PDF from my computer to phone or vice versa. I'm far more likely to want to print something to PDF on my computer and haul it with me on my phone than I am going to want to copy and paste from my computer to my phone.
Oh and that's something you can easily do with Android but can't so conveniently do on an iPhone.
You apparently have never heard of GoodReader. Best $5 you will ever spend.
hat requires the extra steps of pulling the original content back up on the PC or Mac in a browser and finding the info of interest again, just to do the copy/paste on it. Usually, that's not even worth the effort.
I just had to do exactly that when I looked up something on my iPad and then wanted to pull it up for further study on my Mac.
I'm not sure I'm following you. What do you mean by taking something out of a PDF or photo? I'm just talking about having writing something on my desktop and wanting to get some text that I have saved on my phone. I could put the text into a google doc or into a file and save it to dropbox, but usually it is just easier to email it to myself.
I'm saying it's far more convenient to be able to transfer PDFs, photos, and other files rather than copy and paste. There are very few times that copy/paste between a phone/iPad and a computer is useful. Most of the time I want to send concert tickets, a boarding pass, train ticket or whatever to my phone. Right now the only way to do that on the iPhone is email, webdav, dropbox, or airdrop.
So, IOW, there are already at least FOUR methods you mentioned to do that. So you want a FIFTH?
This is a unique feature, and one of those you'll end up using almost without thinking about how much convenience it adds.
They also need to add a way for you to access music files purchased from other sources (drm-free), ripped from CD or even pirated. That would be super sweet.
...or some way to launder your pirated music so that you convert it to high-quality DRM-free LEGAL copies that you could access from anywhere with an internet connection, and on any of your computers and mobile devices.
Sure would be nice if Apple gave users a choice between paying a subscription for music and buying songs outright that weren't DRM encumbered. I'm sure Apple has something like that in the works.....
Nice! I prefer to pay a fee to a mega corporation every month instead of managing my music library. As an added bonus Apple can hike to fee every month in perpetuity whenever they need to bump their quarterly income. All hail Apple!
WTF are you talking about???
Apple Music and iTunes Match are two separate things. I subscribe to Apple Music, because I like to be able to stream pretty much the entire iTunes catalog on demand for $10 a month.
It's like the ultimate "Trial Size". Just search for whatever, more than likely iTunes will have it (and I like fairly obscure music), and hit "Play". I can even stream stuff over Cellular to listen to while driving.
Then, if I find that I really like something and keep coming back to it, e.g. Steven Wilson's most-excellent "Hand. Cannot. Erase.", I can either just purchase the album (or song(s)) DRM-free offa iTunes, or order a physical copy of the album from whoever, and in whatever media I choose.
I don't mess with the "Stations" or "Suggestions" at all. It's like Pandora, except *I* get to choose what to listen to; not some bot.
This little name change is more significant than you might think. "OS X" was always a pain in the butt to use in search requests. It was like trying to find reviews of a movie called Relentless. "MacOS" will be a breeze.
I agree.
I used to have to put "OS X" in double-quotes to make sure Google didn't parse it as two separate "words". They fixed that after awhile, fortunately.
But now, we're all going to have to endure getting lots of results for "MacOS" (note the Capitalization) "Classic".
Still think the name change was a good idea, though. "OS X" was getting to be a marketing issue, as the minor version number started to make the major verson number look puny.
OS X followed MacOS (notice the Capital "M") 9.x, so it was logical to call it "OS 10". They just made it a Roman Numeral "10" because it looks cooler.
But it became more and more of a marketing liability, and as they pointed out, looked incongruous next to the other 3 Apple OSes.
And that doesn't include AppleScript and JavaScript, which are target-able in XCode. Even without XCode, AppleScript even has an IDE of sorts (AppleScript Editor).
But they're getting introduced to the basic concepts of how computers work. Loops, if/else, variables, etc.
They see the character on the screen being a total dumbass that only does exactly as its told, like a computer.
The only thing they need to remember is that last part: "Computers are dumb, remember that when using a computer."
Well, if I were a kid, I think I would find it a lot more engaging than the typical first (well, second (not counting "10 GOTO 10") BASIC program output back in the day:
From http://www.apple.com/swift/pla...:
"Because youâ(TM)re working with real code, you can import and export directly between Swift Playgrounds and Xcode. So you can try out your ideas with the tool pros use to develop iOS and Mac apps."
So it looks like there is a path to a more sophisticated dev environment if you outgrow the iPad sandbox.
It's not about learning to code. This is another Apple attempt to indoctrinate children into the Apple egosphere. They did it with the Apple II back when I was in elementary school. Thankfully, I had machine at home that was far superior. A TI99/4a.
The company had previously commented on the issue, noting that these apps work in conjunction with the core of the operating system, so uncoupling them wasn't so easy.
Sounds like what Microsoft said about Internet Explorer. Turns out, gosh, you can survive with them.
Or perhaps they removed/moved some Dependencies in the newer versions.
Gentle wish? Fuck your gentle wish. You're happy using unjustly overpriced SHIT because you're a dumbass. The rest of us who have more knowledge and experience then you'll ever have in your whole life, know better.
Been designing computer hardware and software since 1976.
Fluent in dozens (literally) of Assembly-languages from 6502 to ARM7 TDMI, plus C, PHP, HTML and several BASIC variants. Never did like C++ or Java, though...
Paid Embedded Developer (hardware and software) for nearly 40 years, with a specialty in R&D of industrial Real-Time measurement and control PRODUCTS.
Currently Develop Windows ERP Applications.
Certified MS SQL Server Admin.
The list goes on...
Yeah. I'm a dumbass alright.
STFU.
I like Apple equipment and OSes precisely BECAUSE I got all that "Work ON my computer" shit out of my system 30 frickin' YEARS ago.
Apple stuff isn't overpriced; because my time (and frustration) is actually WORTH something.
It also means that Apple can update an app without needing to wait for a new OS version.
They always could. But they usually just wait until they have enough stuff for a "point release", and then just update the App along with the other stuff.
I've been using a Mac... including being an early adopter of Clusters.
HFS+ compression isn't designed for user files, which is why there are no native tools to use it *for end users*.
There are some hacky command line things you can do, but it's messy, can break, and is totally useless for anything that modifies the file (so, VMs, databases, and the like).
If you're going to use that, you may as well just zip the file and unzip it before you use it.
Thanks! I wondered what happened to HFS+ Compression. I remember hearing about it in a WWDC Keynote, and then just forgot it existed.
No! Really! There's this macOS thing and everything! Or is that just for the desktop. My magic 8-ball remains murky. It's OS X only it's not! it's the really old MacOS only we're spelling it with a lowercase m so now it's new and trendy and something, something... There really is nothing new under the sun, but how you get from there to "Serve God" the ecclesiastician doesn't really reveal.
Calling the OS "OS X" was logical, since it was the next major version from the then current MacOS 9.2.
But then, the name "OS X" started to be more and more of an Albatross, marketing-wise, so they went back to the more "Version-Agnostic" original name of "MacOS". The capitalization (or lack thereof) simply being kept in-line with their other OSes.
It IS going to be confusing to do searches for awhile, though.
> but the continued major issues with ZFS on macOS, with Finder integration and more,
You wouldn't happen to have more detailed information by chance please?
> much to my chagrin.
I too lament that fact that ZFS wasn't chosen. I guess this is the typical NIH here by Apple.:-/
Got nothin' to do with NIH. Apple uses LOTS of industry standards and Open Source projects that ALL fall under the "Not Invented Here" category.
Dig down into the Forums on the OpenZFSOnOSX Site to see what issues people are still having these days with ZFS (OpenZFS) under OS X. Last I looked was early this year.
This is just a guess, but the reason most people call you a "fanboi" is because of 2 things:
1. Your username screams "fanboi"
2. Every single one of your posts promotes macs and apple
Like I said, just a guess, but, it just could be your fault.
Anyone who thinks that the gentle wish connoted by my Username is cause for the amount of ad hominem abuse I have received is sadly lacking in online etiquette.
I actually make many posts on Slashdot that have nothing to do with Apple. Depends on the Thread.
Is there any evidence for this or is it anecdotal ?
As apple has stated that they expect people to replace their hardware every three years see "when apple mocked poor people and good hardware" It means they don't design for it to last more than three years.
When does Anecdotal "evidence" become "Data"? Especially since in this case, there is no actual "control group", other than the rest of the PC-buying public.
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Yes; add Siri to the Mac and there better be a way to disable it, or I guess I'm sticking with OS X.
Damn, and I just escaped from Microsoft's evil spying, too.
From what I saw, you have to "Invoke" it with a click (probably a keyboard shortcut, too).
Apple is VERY Privacy-Conscious, and has done a LOT to keep this stuff from leaking your private data.
Siri, your creepy, obsessive friend who is always listening, digs through your stuff, and shares it all with anyone who asks.
Just what I always wanted.
Um, they made kind of a big point of the fact that this stuff is being done ON THE PHONE, rather than on Apple's (or anyone else's) Servers.
So sorry. You lose.
I'm sure many people will whine about being underwhelmed by this year's WWDC and the lack of any new hardware announcements, etc. But IMO, there were some really solid improvements shown. The "universal clipboard" is a HUGE improvement, IMO.
How often are you switching between devices like this? In a meaningful and useful way? I don't want to accidentally copy/paste some code snipped on my iPhone. I can tell you the number of times I want to actually do this: Once per iPhone connected to my WiFi network at home. That's it. I don't like having to copy/paste my WiFi key. But guess what, I can just sync that already with notes. So I guess really my count goes down to 0. Now you want to talk about a meaningful way to transfer documents between my phone and my computer? That is a different story. Right now I have to fire up webdav or use email to copy a picture or a PDF from my computer to phone or vice versa. I'm far more likely to want to print something to PDF on my computer and haul it with me on my phone than I am going to want to copy and paste from my computer to my phone.
Oh and that's something you can easily do with Android but can't so conveniently do on an iPhone.
You apparently have never heard of GoodReader. Best $5 you will ever spend.
hat requires the extra steps of pulling the original content back up on the PC or Mac in a browser and finding the info of interest again, just to do the copy/paste on it. Usually, that's not even worth the effort.
I just had to do exactly that when I looked up something on my iPad and then wanted to pull it up for further study on my Mac.
I'm not sure I'm following you. What do you mean by taking something out of a PDF or photo? I'm just talking about having writing something on my desktop and wanting to get some text that I have saved on my phone. I could put the text into a google doc or into a file and save it to dropbox, but usually it is just easier to email it to myself.
I'm saying it's far more convenient to be able to transfer PDFs, photos, and other files rather than copy and paste. There are very few times that copy/paste between a phone/iPad and a computer is useful. Most of the time I want to send concert tickets, a boarding pass, train ticket or whatever to my phone. Right now the only way to do that on the iPhone is email, webdav, dropbox, or airdrop.
So, IOW, there are already at least FOUR methods you mentioned to do that. So you want a FIFTH?
This is a unique feature, and one of those you'll end up using almost without thinking about how much convenience it adds.
Typical Apple.
You are right. Many times I wish I could copy some text on my iPhone and paste it on my laptop. Christ. Apple fanboys are something else...
Sounds like somebody is jeal-ous...
They also need to add a way for you to access music files purchased from other sources (drm-free), ripped from CD or even pirated. That would be super sweet.
...or some way to launder your pirated music so that you convert it to high-quality DRM-free LEGAL copies that you could access from anywhere with an internet connection, and on any of your computers and mobile devices.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Sure would be nice if Apple gave users a choice between paying a subscription for music and buying songs outright that weren't DRM encumbered. I'm sure Apple has something like that in the works.....
I assume that was sarcasm, right?
Nice! I prefer to pay a fee to a mega corporation every month instead of managing my music library. As an added bonus Apple can hike to fee every month in perpetuity whenever they need to bump their quarterly income. All hail Apple!
WTF are you talking about???
Apple Music and iTunes Match are two separate things. I subscribe to Apple Music, because I like to be able to stream pretty much the entire iTunes catalog on demand for $10 a month.
It's like the ultimate "Trial Size". Just search for whatever, more than likely iTunes will have it (and I like fairly obscure music), and hit "Play". I can even stream stuff over Cellular to listen to while driving.
Then, if I find that I really like something and keep coming back to it, e.g. Steven Wilson's most-excellent "Hand. Cannot. Erase.", I can either just purchase the album (or song(s)) DRM-free offa iTunes, or order a physical copy of the album from whoever, and in whatever media I choose.
I don't mess with the "Stations" or "Suggestions" at all. It's like Pandora, except *I* get to choose what to listen to; not some bot.
This little name change is more significant than you might think. "OS X" was always a pain in the butt to use in search requests. It was like trying to find reviews of a movie called Relentless. "MacOS" will be a breeze.
I agree.
I used to have to put "OS X" in double-quotes to make sure Google didn't parse it as two separate "words". They fixed that after awhile, fortunately.
But now, we're all going to have to endure getting lots of results for "MacOS" (note the Capitalization) "Classic".
Still think the name change was a good idea, though. "OS X" was getting to be a marketing issue, as the minor version number started to make the major verson number look puny.
(which some people call "Mac OS TEN")
That's how it is supposed to be pronounced.
OS X followed MacOS (notice the Capital "M") 9.x, so it was logical to call it "OS 10". They just made it a Roman Numeral "10" because it looks cooler.
But it became more and more of a marketing liability, and as they pointed out, looked incongruous next to the other 3 Apple OSes.
Apple never did stop including such a language. Python is bundled with the OS.
Actually, the list is a lot more extensive...
And that doesn't include AppleScript and JavaScript, which are target-able in XCode. Even without XCode, AppleScript even has an IDE of sorts (AppleScript Editor).
But they're getting introduced to the basic concepts of how computers work. Loops, if/else, variables, etc.
They see the character on the screen being a total dumbass that only does exactly as its told, like a computer.
The only thing they need to remember is that last part: "Computers are dumb, remember that when using a computer."
Well, if I were a kid, I think I would find it a lot more engaging than the typical first (well, second (not counting "10 GOTO 10") BASIC program output back in the day:
1
12
123
1234
12345
123456
1234567
123456789
From http://www.apple.com/swift/pla...: "Because youâ(TM)re working with real code, you can import and export directly between Swift Playgrounds and Xcode. So you can try out your ideas with the tool pros use to develop iOS and Mac apps."
So it looks like there is a path to a more sophisticated dev environment if you outgrow the iPad sandbox.
Now that's cool!
And they didn't even mention it.
It's not about learning to code. This is another Apple attempt to indoctrinate children into the Apple egosphere. They did it with the Apple II back when I was in elementary school. Thankfully, I had machine at home that was far superior. A TI99/4a.
That was a joke, right?
The company had previously commented on the issue, noting that these apps work in conjunction with the core of the operating system, so uncoupling them wasn't so easy.
Sounds like what Microsoft said about Internet Explorer. Turns out, gosh, you can survive with them.
Or perhaps they removed/moved some Dependencies in the newer versions.
Not EVERYTHING is a Conspiracy.
Gentle wish? Fuck your gentle wish. You're happy using unjustly overpriced SHIT because you're a dumbass. The rest of us who have more knowledge and experience then you'll ever have in your whole life, know better.
Been designing computer hardware and software since 1976.
Fluent in dozens (literally) of Assembly-languages from 6502 to ARM7 TDMI, plus C, PHP, HTML and several BASIC variants. Never did like C++ or Java, though...
Paid Embedded Developer (hardware and software) for nearly 40 years, with a specialty in R&D of industrial Real-Time measurement and control PRODUCTS.
Currently Develop Windows ERP Applications.
Certified MS SQL Server Admin.
The list goes on...
Yeah. I'm a dumbass alright.
STFU.
I like Apple equipment and OSes precisely BECAUSE I got all that "Work ON my computer" shit out of my system 30 frickin' YEARS ago.
Apple stuff isn't overpriced; because my time (and frustration) is actually WORTH something.
Which makes me think they will produce an update to 9.x for the iPad/iPad 2/iPad Mini that will allow this.
Then they could support these devices through security patches and new apps. Just like Android does on e.g. Nexus 4.
Though this will, amusingly, rather change the Apple pundit tune on fragmentation.
Speaking of which, did anyone else notice the conspicuous absence ot the iPad 2 and iPhone 4s from the iOS 10 Compatibility List?
Same thing with MacOS Sierra: I think the earliest supported Macs for Sierra will now be 2009 models.
Wonder what they are now requiring in the new OSes that made them fall off the list?
It also means that Apple can update an app without needing to wait for a new OS version.
They always could. But they usually just wait until they have enough stuff for a "point release", and then just update the App along with the other stuff.
you have to get shot in an Orlando gay bar for that.
Really? You would invoke THAT just to make some sort of snarky comment?
DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE!!!
I've been using a Mac... including being an early adopter of Clusters.
HFS+ compression isn't designed for user files, which is why there are no native tools to use it *for end users*. There are some hacky command line things you can do, but it's messy, can break, and is totally useless for anything that modifies the file (so, VMs, databases, and the like).
If you're going to use that, you may as well just zip the file and unzip it before you use it.
Thanks! I wondered what happened to HFS+ Compression. I remember hearing about it in a WWDC Keynote, and then just forgot it existed.
Guess I now know why...
No! Really! There's this macOS thing and everything! Or is that just for the desktop. My magic 8-ball remains murky. It's OS X only it's not! it's the really old MacOS only we're spelling it with a lowercase m so now it's new and trendy and something, something... There really is nothing new under the sun, but how you get from there to "Serve God" the ecclesiastician doesn't really reveal.
Calling the OS "OS X" was logical, since it was the next major version from the then current MacOS 9.2.
But then, the name "OS X" started to be more and more of an Albatross, marketing-wise, so they went back to the more "Version-Agnostic" original name of "MacOS". The capitalization (or lack thereof) simply being kept in-line with their other OSes.
It IS going to be confusing to do searches for awhile, though.
> but the continued major issues with ZFS on macOS, with Finder integration and more,
You wouldn't happen to have more detailed information by chance please?
> much to my chagrin.
I too lament that fact that ZFS wasn't chosen. I guess this is the typical NIH here by Apple. :-/
Got nothin' to do with NIH. Apple uses LOTS of industry standards and Open Source projects that ALL fall under the "Not Invented Here" category.
Dig down into the Forums on the OpenZFSOnOSX Site to see what issues people are still having these days with ZFS (OpenZFS) under OS X. Last I looked was early this year.
This is just a guess, but the reason most people call you a "fanboi" is because of 2 things:
1. Your username screams "fanboi" 2. Every single one of your posts promotes macs and apple
Like I said, just a guess, but, it just could be your fault.
Anyone who thinks that the gentle wish connoted by my Username is cause for the amount of ad hominem abuse I have received is sadly lacking in online etiquette.
I actually make many posts on Slashdot that have nothing to do with Apple. Depends on the Thread.
Is there any evidence for this or is it anecdotal ? As apple has stated that they expect people to replace their hardware every three years see "when apple mocked poor people and good hardware" It means they don't design for it to last more than three years.
When does Anecdotal "evidence" become "Data"? Especially since in this case, there is no actual "control group", other than the rest of the PC-buying public.