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Apple Is Fighting A Secret War To Keep You From Repairing Your Phone (huffingtonpost.com)
It's no secret that Apple makes a ton of money by charging 'astronomical' fee for replacing and fixing display and other components of iPhone and iPad (as well as Mac line). For instance, the company charges $599 for replacing the display on the iPad Pro tablet. Which sounds insane when you realize that you can almost certainly purchase a new iPad Pro under $700. And this is what most people do. A Huffington Post article notes that this behavior has contributed significantly in "generating heaps of e-waste." Citing many advocates, the publication claims that Apple has "opposed legislation that could help curb it." From the report: The Huffington Post spoke with politicians in two states who support such legislation, and confirmed through government filings that Apple has lobbied on the issue. Four states -- Minnesota, Nebraska, Massachusetts and New York -- have considered adopting "right to repair" amendments, which would update existing laws regarding the sale of electronic equipment. Amending these laws would make it easier to fix your devices and would help reduce "e-waste," a catch-all term for any electronic detritus. The New York State Senate and Assembly could approve one of these amendments next week. This would help unofficial repair shops get the information they need to fix your iPad, ideally driving down repair costs and encouraging you to squeeze more life out of your old devices -- thus cutting down on the e-waste generated by our voracious appetites for new gadgets. Apple asserts that it helps recycle millions of pounds of electronics equipment every year. But it won't support right to repair amendments.One would ask what is preventing a user from getting their device repaired by unofficial service person? In addition to the security implication, you also run a risk of getting your device bricked by Apple. To recall, the iPhone maker was found bricking the handsets that had been repaired by third-party vendors earlier this year.
The solution is simple: do not be stupid enough to buy anything from Apple in the first place.
Circumcision is child abuse.
Its pretty sad when Apple was one of the first companies to embrace open architecture to see them become such denizens of closed, monolithic devices. The IBM PC probably would not have had expansion slots if they weren't competing against the fully open Apple 2, and the world today would be a much less interesting place for aspiring engineers.
This has been their policy all along. From weird fasteners that require a special "Apple tool" to almost-impossible to obtain spare parts, there's never been any doubt about their intent - maximize AAPL profit at all cost! (To consumers, that is....)
There are Five grammatical errors in the first sentence of the summary! Learn about Plurals!
I used to think that. I was a diehard Linux user. I'd waste hours of my time building my own PCs. Then I tried a MacBook Pro at work, and I found out just how much I had been missing. It just plain worked. I didn't have to fiddle with any hardware. I didn't have to search Linux mailing lists in vain to find a driver or an obscure config setting just to get my system working. All I did was open the MacBook Pro's lid, entered my password, and I could get right to work. Not only was the UI superb, but underneath there was a solid UNIX base! It ran all of the software I used with Linux, and then a whole lot more. It's everything I wanted from Linux but that Linux never gave me: stability, robustness, a great UI, and all of this just working right away with no effort on my part. So you know what I did? I said "fuck it" to Linux, and to home-built PCs. I bought myself a Mac Mini. And you know what? It's the best purchase I've ever made! It has paid for itself many times over by saving me my own time. I don't have to fight with Linux or PC hardware any more. I don't have to figure out why systemd decided not to let my computer boot. I don't have to try to find a GNOME 3 theme that isn't total shit. I don't have to try to customize Xfce after fighting too much with GNOME 3. I don't have to figure out why PulseAudio is preventing my sound from working. I don't have to figure out why Firefox is slow. Now my computer works for me, instead of against me. Ditching Linux and PCs was the best thing I've ever done, and I wish I had done it years ago! I would have saved myself so much time and pain.
"For instance, the company charges $599 for replacing the display on the iPad Pro tablet. Which sounds insane when you realize that you can almost certainly purchase a new iPad Pro under $700."
Well, on a iPad, the display is everything. So, it is something to expect replacing the display will nearly top the price of the device itself. You pick the most expensive part to compare the brand new one price to the repair. That's not a fair comparison. Almost the rest of the iPad components worth nothing.
Achille Talon
Hop!
I'm subscribed to this guy's youtube channel and he just put up a video on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Hopefully this idea catches on.
lose != loose
That's what Apple thinks.
When any other company does something you don't like, you boycott their products. By giving business to their competitors instead of them, they (theoretically) take notice and change their ways to win your business back.
But Apple seems to be a special case here... When Apple does something you don't like, you're allowed to:
- Rant all over the Internet to gain public support
- Sue Apple because of their practices
- Push for regulations and/or legislation to limit their practices
But the one thing you're *never* allowed to do, for some reason, is:
- Actually stop buying Apple products
I spilt a glass of red wine on my 2011 17" Macbook Pro a few years ago. Annoyingly enough, it was the first, untouched glass. I was stone cold sober, but I digress. Luckily it had a silicon keyboard cover which caught most of it. Except for the one drop which ran down the LVDS cable and shorted across the cable pins on the board.
It still booted, I could ssh in, there was just no video signal.
I took it to the local "authorized" Apple repair dude. 'Nope. It's fucked. You need a new mobo. ~$1,000.' Fuck that.
I chanced my arm and tried replacing the LVDS cable on the off-chance is was just a damaged cable. It wasn't. Using a little Google-fu I turned up a local "unauthorized" dude with a soldering iron. He quoted me $100 to take a look, and an estimate of $400 to try with no guarantee of success. He managed it with a few replaced transistors and diodes, and charged me $300 for the work with a three month warranty.
Fuck Apple and their wasteful, profit maximizing behavior. If it weren't for the underpowered Radeon on this thing I'd easily keep it for another 5+ years.
The mechanical timer broke on my (gas) drier. The part cost $180, for a drier that probably cost $500-$600.
The cost for the ABS (computer) module on my 2000 Nissan Frontier was $1.8k.
Will we legislate 'reasonable prices' for repair parts? And who determines 'reasonable'? (Same argument goes for other aspects of 'repairability'.)
"Gave up the good fight and decided to lick the master's boots."
I wasn't stupid enough to buy an iPhone.
Checkout the service manuals for the Thinkpad laptops. Every part, every screw, *everything* has a part number. Manual shows complete teardown with lots of pictures and troubleshooting notes. Some of the best repair manuals around.
Or you could just buy an Intel-based Chromebook, which probably has the majority of its hardware supported OOTB on most Linux distributions, because ChromeOS is running a Linux kernel under the hood. It is possible they're using special drivers, but I find that unlikely, considering the number of people that have gotten Linux to work on Chromebooks. GalliumOS is proof of this.
A negative Apple article, and yet their editors all use Macs. Source: http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/huffington-post-editors-photo-of-diverse-meeting-immediately-backfires
This should apply to cars, appliances, tools - basically everything.
Having said this, I have just replaced the digitizer on my mother's 2nd gen iPad, at a cost of less than $20.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
I don't think there's any secret. Apple's evil, anti-environmental behavior has been well-known for years.
Or if you insist on dropping it, put it in an ottorbox...
To recall, the iPhone maker was found bricking the handsets that had been repaired by third-party vendors earlier this year.
Yes, I recall that. I also recall that it was because those third-party repairers were replacing parts of the crypto system without having the tools/expertise necessary to pair the parts they replaced with the ones they didn't. There are plenty of reasons to rant about Apple without misrepresentations like these.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.
They know that the sum of its parts cost about $200 -- probably less .. so if you can repair it you can probably put one together in entirety for less.
It's for people who have (or their parents have) enough disposable income and the right personality traits to participate in a cult-like abusive mindset. Fortunately, there appears to be enough of them for Apple to turn a tidy profit.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
"A number of people have gotten it to work" is exactly the reason Apple is so successful. Case in point right fucking here. I am sick of "getting it to work" . I destroyed my computer closet and then removed the entire closet from my house because fucking computer hobbies. If I am not working for my boss on the computer I am not on the computer, I am doing something outside instead of feeding my brain tumor with radiation from these stupid machines.
Agreed. I'm in the same situation. I was a diehard Linux developer. Used to go to all the conferences. I remember running into Andrew Tridgell at the Ottawa Linux Symposium in the 90s - he was incredibly taken with my new little Sony Picturebook - he had just purchased a similar model and had written a webcam driver for his, but the driver didn't work on mine (North American vs. Australian models). We spent a few hours that afternoon trying to figure out why. Ah, the joys of open source and youth.
Several years later, after buying a new laptop and discovering that the goddamned *keyboard* didn't work in Linux (without serious hacking of the kernel - $#@$ HP), I thought "maybe I'll give a Titanium Powerbook a try - I hear that OS X has Unix underpinnings now). And guess what? I haven't really looked back. Sure, I'm "licking the master's boots" (or whatever, silly person who replied above). My guess, you're a 20-something kid who's bought into the whole Linux is Freedom schtick. Good for you, you've got a lot of fun years ahead of you. Me, I'm 42 now, and I have a family. I don't have the time to rebuild kernels and fuck with X configs. I just want my tech to work. I want to be able to open a terminal and run vi and code Python - but I also want to be able to manage photos easily, and have stuff sync between my devices without having to set up and maintain servers. OH AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE, I WANT AN OS AND WINDOW MANAGER THAT CAN HANDLE HIDPI DISPLAYS WITH EASE. You know who does that? Apple. Not Linux. Not FreeBSD. Not Windows. (and don't bring up Cinnamon, or KDE Plasma or any other option - I have a Dell XPS 15 here as my backup machine, running Manjaro, and oy vey, HiDPI support in Linux Land sucks balls).
But hey, it's OK guys. I hear that 2017 is going to be the Year of Linux on the Desktop, right?
What if you decided not to believe in the sinful nature of e-waste? Then you wouldn't have to feel guilty buying an item you want. You wouldn't have to worry that others around you were committing e-waste sins. People could go about their lives and be happy, without fearing the e-waste religious enforcers.
Here's the thing: people recycle e-waste. Companies like Apple recycle e-waste. It's a problem that has been solved.
You might want to reconsider some things and stop obsessing and moralizing about it. If you still want to believe in e-waste sins yourself, then feel free -- we still have freedom of religion here in most cases. But please stop being a problem for the rest of us.
dont buy apple phones. problem solved.
Leave it be. Some way money has to be taken from the people who have too much of it and don't know anything better to do with it than to buy shiny things. Apple is not the worst company to which these people can give their money.
The Huffington Post article also mentions that many electronics manufacturers resist this change.
And yet, here you are. From a computer-equivalent device.
Take your self-described cure-all and go outside to blow off some steam. You need it.
By delivering low quality trash that is not built to last they have guaranteed themselves that the people who are sold on these devices will have to buy another. There is nothing more to it than that. If you want a working device you will pay through the nose for it because you already have. Are you just going to let that big spend go to waste because you broke it? No! You'll spend more. You're sure it was your own clumsy fault anyway, right? Nothing that costs hundreds and hundreds of dollars would be so easily broken, people would notice and they they'd never be popular! Never mind the fact that they cost way less than $200 to produce.
A fool and their money are easily parted.
"I'm sorry, i know our posters say 'think differently', but our real slogan is 'no refunds'."
Just wait for the apple car to come dealer only service and based on how evil they want to be that can go all the down to lights / oil changes / battery / tires.
This. One million times this.
With circa. 70% of the market, who gives a fuck about Apple with their minority market?
Apple lobbyists are extremely deceitful
They use outright lies and Total FUD to attack the proposed legislations supporting a right to repair, so the proposed New York right to repair act is in jeapordy.
See Louis Rossmann's video on the right to repair, and how Apple lobbyists are arguing things like, Replacing a resistor in a Macbook turns the Macbook into a PC, and the repair shops don't disclose that, so there's an issue, and the independent repair shops are low quality / shady, blah blah blah.
Geeks should be familiar with the below movie.
I've watched this onboard Onyx IFE on a flight enroute from EU to Asia.
Made me wide awake even without sleep for 23 hours straight.
Quick Trailer (to whet your appetite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251qoGOqpdk
And its Full Movie (to open your eyes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1j0XDGIsUg
That's how Apple Inc. ended up in court for this evil practice which encourages consumption and electronic waste.
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The overall cost-benefit ratio for Apple products no longer justifies their continued use in my environment.
Apple's apparent planned obsolescence has made it difficult to justify the money required to remain on Apple's Hardware Upgrade Treadmill. I suspect, looking at Apple's declining stock price, that I'm not the only one making that decision.
Not all products (I still like their headphones), but...
-For everything that has a processor and might eventually need a firmware upgrade Sony is right out. Because I think it would be an invitation to pull crap like with the PS3 (advertised with Linux support, then removed Linux support as a "security upgrade") again.
-Software is right out because I don't trust them not to pull a rootkit again.
In short, I wouldn't buy anything but analog equipment from Sony. If digital stuff is 90% of their business (just guessing), it amounts to a 90% boycott.
C - the footgun of programming languages
...you idiots could just take better care of your crap. Fascist as it sounds, some technologies shouldn't be available to ALL people. A house painter with messy hands using an Ipad? Seriously??
I have seen this and much worse. The so called "underprivileged" have two choices.. Pay for Privilege, or re-educate and re-purpose themselves.. there is no "grey area"
Bitch you KNOW the side.. WORLD MAFUCKIN WIDE..
When some future iPhone is hermetically sealed in sapphire are you going to complain because you can't repair it?
How about when the case it formed using liquid metal technology and there are no seams to open?
Can you repair the CPU in your desktop? No? You mean you throw away a two billion transistor machine because one NAND gate is bad? Why don't you get in there and repair it? Or more to the point why aren't you bitching about Intel conspiring to keep you from fixing it by sealing the CPU case and not using TO-92 sockets so you can pop them out?
Our kids aren't going to be repairing this stuff - they are going to be 3D printing a new one and hopefully properly recycling the old one.
It all just works, assuming that you only want to use it for whatever apple decides to allow you to do...
Tim (suck) Cook
Why would you buy an Apple? It is a walled garden. Look it up. To even see your specs you have to xray the device. Look it up. The CEO is gay. Do you always buy buttfuck devices?
gtfo.
Then you get what you deserve. Apple has always sucked and always will.
Hi,
As a big supporter of this bill, I want to make the point that this is not just about singling out Apple. I discuss Apple products a lot because I can give good examples, since it is what I work on day in day out every day. However, I believe this bill will be beneficial long into the future as a tool and an example for other companies to follow. There will be many new technologies that we cannot even imagine right now coming out over the next 50-100 years, and it'd be nice if there were a precedent set in the early 2000s that hey.... it shouldn't be illegal that the repair guy down the street have a manual that tells him what the value of the resistor is here so he can fix the product.
I am aware that this entire industry will go through many changes to the point that I do not recognize it anymore over the course of my lifetime, but I'd like to see those changes made with a mindset other than "you rent this device until it dies"
You can install and run whatever the fuck you want on a MacBook, so why are you referring to?
Or just sit back and keep drinking the kool-aid schmuck
These are no real machines. Good luck doing doing actual work on a chrome book.
Exactly.
On a trip around Japan, I had some hardware issue with an 64GB SD card that simply died on me.
Since I bough two of these (original and backup) I tried to make a copy on a (new) third one.
The plan was to use an iPad (4?) and the (expensive) thunderbolt sd-card adapter.
I was able to read the pictures from the card, but to my surpise, it was not possible to write the pictures back on the backup. Read-only ? How braindead is that ? I took a mental note never buy an apple device myself, and managed to do what I wanted with the help of a Raspberry Pi (Total price, about the same of the useless adapter)
And don't get me started with the convoluted way you need to go though to export pictures.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
This sounds like a class action suit is just waiting to happen. Bricking the phone so it is wiped and useless for a simple repair not using an authorized Apple component or service center seems to be something that should be disclosed to the consumer before purchasing the phone. At worst, such a "feature" should void a warranty, not destroy the product.
Since Apple charges almost as much for a repair as a new device, it would seem that this practice is not meant for security measures but to line their own pockets. Why isn't the Justice Department looking into this?
If you own Apple products, then fuck you. Nobody else cares about this.
My Macbook Pro has battery issues twice, and Apple gave me new batteries for free. My wife had a Macbook, the case cracked, Apple gave her a new Macbook Pro. I don't know if we're just lucky or not, but I don't think so.
Makes for good business for me. I offer Apple repairs locally for about $100 bux. Although it doesn't have the "Apple touch" that allows them to justify that price, I'll repair em all day long instead of them.
You forget - this is Slashdot.
The only people still lurking around this dump are old-guard types who thoroughly believe that the particular level of modularity in the products that they personally grew up with is the _right_ level of modularity to ensure basic human rights and freedoms.
So it doesn't matter if you don't know where to mine lithium -- and it doesn't matter if you don't know how to manufacture a wafe-thin battery -- but By God, it matters like hell that you know how to unscrew a case and swap a battery yourself. You're just not A Man if you can't.
Then, when you really get it just the way you like, Google stops the updates. Wow! Google just shoot Chromebooks in the foot. 5 Year life for Chromebooks.
Why the fuck were you trying to backup a giant SD card via a tablet? Couldn't you find an internet café or something?
I am not understanding the school yard squabbling going on here. It's not about Mac / PC / Android. The point of this was stemming e-waste and this/these "bill(s)" will do precisely NOTHING to stop it.
Cue the righteous indignation.
Before you go all ninja-flame-war on me, please answer this one simple question : Exactly what difference does it make if the widget ends up in the landfill 3 years from now, or 7 years or 10 years? It occurs to me it is STILL ending up in the landfill, so the whole "I want to fix it myself" issue seems like a ruse that doesn't really benefit everyone. The reality is still that software WILL be written that will outstrip the ability of the processor to move that much information, then the device will be traded in and thrown away no matter what. As I see it, nothing in the bill(s) will do jack to stop it. Nothing in giving you the ability to "work" on your own devices will stop that.
So let's be honest here and drop the pretenses of saving the planet. You aren't saving the planet one iota. Y'all are just a bunch of cheap bastards that want to have your cake and eat it, too. I have little to no problem with that, but please... let's stop ascribing noble intentions to horribly greedy acts.
TIL, Slashdot is still around. Ooooh, and they switched from making Microsoft and Bill Gates the bad guy to Apple now! Do we have a little fun icon showing Steve Jobs or Tim Cook as a borg?
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those! AMIRIGHT! WOOO!!! HIGH FIVE!!!! Hey CmdrTaco? How's all that cash you got from selling this site to the highest bidder? Ooops, the only picture I could find of you has you on a MacBook! D'OH! How's that going to look to your OSS, RMS-Worshiping fans?
People throw out their Apple products because they damage them beyond economic repair or they've served for 5years+ (but still have a resale value)
Can you say the same for the rest of the industry?
I wasn't suggesting it for ChromeOS usage as I am aware of the EOL policy. I was suggesting installing GalliumOS on it as it's a derivative of Xubuntu and fine-tuned for Chromebooks. But you could install any flavor of Linux on it really. Lubuntu's also a good option.
The point of the post you replied to was that you could install Linux OOTB on most chromebooks. So why should we care if Google stops the updates?
It's the best of both worlds really, you get a cheap set of hardware that "just works", and when the manufacturer EOL's it you can install Linux and it will continue to "just work".
I have trouble with a lot of open source software on mac. So if I go with windows or linux usually I can get functionality for free. Inkscape is one terrific piece of software that comes to mind. Heck, even if you want to get an equivalent of MS Paint on a mac, usually you have to shell out some dough. There is one version for Mac that someone tried to do but it was terrible.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Apple doesn't stop you from replacing your own parts. You're free to do so! However if you think that ANY company would then bend the knee and continue catering the warranty or technical service, then you have no basic understanding of how warrantees work.
The fact that they even offer a discounted replacement product is amazing. Find me another company that does this.
Plus the prices on this are wrong. Most kiosk locations and phone insurance companies charge more for phone screen repairs.
Then I tried to download photos from my iPhone without any iWare or install a printer... Ubuntu just works here.
"you shouldn't want to do that". I heard that so often, obstructing my progress...
Their business model is built around Joe Consumer replacing failing/out-dated products every 24-36 months. That's why they're the most successful corporation on the planet ever.
You can THINK that all you want; but in the case of EVERY Apple-owner I know (and that is more than a few), ALL of them KEEP their Apple products until the proverbial "wheels fall off". Which for an Apple product, is a LONG-ASS-TIME.
In fact, out of the people I know that are Apple owners, I have the newest computer (a 2013 non-Retina MacBook Pro), and the newest phone (iPhone 6 Plus). But, other than an iPad mini that another friend got for a gift last Christmas, NONE of my Apple-owning friends has made an Apple purchase since about 2010.
But also, out of that group, there have only been 2 hardware failures. Both, were batteries. One on a 2009 MacBook Pro, and the other on a 2010 MacBook Pro, both started to bulge and had to be replaced (which is a 5 minute User-Accessible repair, BTW). I also Upgraded an HD in a friend's 2009 iMac. Took about an hour. I hear the newest ones are a bit more challenging, though.
I take that back; I know of 3 hardware failures. Another friend had a power supply failure in his water-cooled Quad-CPU G5 tower a number of years ago. He replaced it himself. He eventually gave that G5 to me, and it sits quietly being an iTunes, Home Security (and other) Server. Not very power-efficient; but way too great an example of industrial engineering to just throw-out, until it finally gives up (if it ever does!).
I used to think that. I was a diehard Linux user. I'd waste hours of my time building my own PCs. Then I tried a MacBook Pro at work, and I found out just how much I had been missing. It just plain worked.
Watch it! They'll call you an "Apple Shill" just like I get called EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. on Slashdot.
Shred of decency nor a politician that wants to do the right thing.
When the empire crumbles.
It all just works, assuming that you only want to use it for whatever apple decides to allow you to do...
Let me guess: You've never even TOUCHED a Mac, have you?
Pop open Terminal and see what you think about Macs being "locked-down". Then fire up XCode (FREE, BTW), and tell me that Apple> decides what you can do with your computer.
Heck, even if you want to get an equivalent of MS Paint
OMFG!!! You're holding-out MS Paint as an example of "Software not available on the Mac"????
Seriously?!? I've used MS Paint for years, and believe you, me, I wouldn't hold it up as a shining example of ANYTHING...
Besides, this Search seems to show SEVERAL highly-rated Freeware examples of Paintbox software for OS X. In fact, the first one I looked-at from that MacUpdate search, "Paintbrush" is not only Open Source and Free, but is pretty-much an equivalent to MS Paint. So, What's YOUR problem that you can't seem to find anything suitable?
And BTW, NEWSFLASH: NOT EVERY PIECE OF SOFTWARE HAS TO COST ZERO DOLLARS TO BE WORTHWHILE!!!
If someone feels like they deserve $5, $10, or $20, AND YOU LIKE THE SOFTWARE, FFS, PUT A CROWBAR IN YOUR WALLET!!! Most of those companies have a Free Trial period, anyway (something I admit that really do wish that ANY of the "App Stores" (regardless of platform) would start allowing, though)
But, Damn! Even Pixelmator, which is a DAMN sight more full-featured than MS Paint (and in fact, is closer to The Gimp or Photoshop), is only $30, and it has a Free Trial.
Apple is keeping me from repairing my Samsung?
Which, I am not sure why this is a surprise. We live in a corporatist fascist state, with cherry picked elements of communism/socialism thrown in for just enough chaos.
Since 2007 this has become not only a political force but an economic one.
YOU can't OWN _ANYTHING_.
You can't own a house, because if you dont or can't pay the $3K in taxes per year, they come and seize the $200K house, which is what they hope for anyway.
You can't own a car in some states if you don't have insurance otherwise they seize the $30K vehicle because you didn't pay the $1200 for last years insurance.
Also planned.
You don't own anything you buy, because markets have to be controlled and rigged for a few set of players, including repairs on the products you sell. (Well, don't forget the special deals you get to work out too with you and your elite friends as you scheme behind closed doors rigging elects and laws so you can get away with this sort of nonsense....i.e. Bilderburg...Congress, EU unelected commissars).
Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
I was able to read the pictures from the card, but to my surpise, it was not possible to write the pictures back on the backup.
First off: "Expensive"? $30? You must be on a pretty tight budget. How much did your hotel room cost? Howabout dinner?
Second: I would bet you actually can read and write with the Apple card reader; but I haven't found an answer for that for sure.
However, here is a product that is a compatible Third-Party Lightning (not Thunderbolt as you claimed) card-reader, that definitely CAN read and WRITE, so it probably isn't a restriction in Apple's driver.
Oh, and try out "GoodReader" next time. SO much easier for transferring ANY type of data to/from an iOS Device. Best $5 you'll ever spend!
Paintbrush was the one I tried, it wouldn't draw anything on the screen and then it crashed. I didn't say MS Paint was good software, on the contrary it is a minimal piece of crap; but my point was it is more than Apple provides for their users.
Some software I do pay for, sometimes I donate to open source. All I'm saying is, if a platform isn't worth the time of people who are donating their hours to develop it then I don't want it either. On the other hand, if the software is worth the money then people shouldn't have to be forced to purchase it.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
I strongly urge you to try Elementary OS. Built on Ubuntu 14.04 but they finally did the UI right. Seriously, I've tried all the major distros and I don't know what Linux devs are thinking. There is something inherently wrong with their memory management with all the choppiness and touch optimized crap. Elementary OS got it right. I didn't even feel a need to replace the built in dock although it could admittedly use a bit more eye candy.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
> my point was [MS Paint] is more than Apple provides for their users
Or that pathetic excuse for a troll could just open Apple notes and draw along.
Paintbrush was the one I tried, it wouldn't draw anything on the screen and then it crashed.
Then why didn't you try one of the other DOZENS of Applications listed on the MacUpdate search I provided?
if the software is worth the money then people shouldn't have to be forced to purchase it.
WTF are you smokin', Jackson? And can I have some?
That wasn't even a SANE thought.
Last I checked there was a charge for note.
Some us see outside the cage of capitalism.
Out of all the major brands that I repair, iPhones are typicall the cheapest and easiest to repair and spare parts are plentiful ( though not Apple-blessed ), and contrary to people still thinking of the first iPhones, since the 3/3GS they've always used screws for assemblies; yes, there's some 2 sided tape as an addition to halt screen wiggles on the 4/4S but beyond that iPhones are very repairable. HTC, stuff that, throw it out, 2 sided tape, kapton tape, crazy clips. Samsung, used to be good with the S2, 3, 4 and similar era Notes, but as of the S5 it's a disaster and the replacement screens cost a small country. Nokia has some very nice to repair models and replacement screens are sensibly priced by few people seem to have them.
Now, if we talk about iPads/iPods, I absolutely agree, nightmares :(
> if you don't have insurance otherwise they seize the $30K vehicle because you didn't pay the $1200 for last years insurance.
And I say $deity bless them seizing every uninsured car before its irresponsible owner has the chance to hit me on the highway, possibly ruining my life and not being capable to at least pay for the expenses.
..you read all the previous comments to make sure that you're not just repeating what someone else has said ;)
Some us see outside the cage of capitalism.
And some of us just expect a free ride for everything.
Welcome to the Entitlement Generation...
People who stuck with Microsoft also had similar experiences probably.
My hard drive on my out-of-warranty iMac died. I called a couple of local Mac repair shops in San Francisco and got quoted prices. I also got a quote from Apple: theirs was only $5 more than one of the local guys (that, as it happened, called me back to say that they couldn't actually do the repair) and about $40 less than the other. I was actually pleasantly surprised with Apple's price.
If you reply, do so only to what I explicitly wrote. If I didn't write it, don't assume or infer it.
All electronic devices must have either:
1. User replaceable batteries (using standard tools and nothing fancy)
A 10-year unlimited free battery replacement service with prepaid shipping in both directions, and a minimum 3-day turnaround.
A government is a body of people notably ungoverned - AC
For example, they know that Apple recycles their products--there's no pileup of toxic waste.
and your washing machine, dryer, dish washer, toaster, blender and car.
but it doesn't matter because there are enough other delusional liars to +5 your comment. And this is why Donald Trump exists, because truth doesn't matter anymore. You just need enough ignorant assholes who are willing to agree with whatever made-up shit you spout off and the lie becomes the truth.
Please, please try to make the case that Apple is "helping the government spy on everyone" instead of, you know, doing the exact opposite of that.
Just watched documentary where Apple ewaste was shipped to Ghana.
The update included additional security checks of the secure enclave (including the fingerprint sensor) and thus unintentionally bricked devices with third-party replaced fingerprint sensors.
Apple released an update to unbrick those phones once they knew about the problem.
But, yeah, if it makes you feel better to lie on the internet then please feel free.
and (a) don't need to spend their life fiddling with their electronic devices to get them to work, (b) can afford to purchase a decent product, and (c) don't feel the need to mock other peoples' choices in electronics.
At least you get paid for being a shill, being a fanboy is just embarrassing.
The only mobile device that gets the screen changed is the iPhone. Any other iOS device gets a full unit swap. That means a brand new device for a far cheaper price. The Geniuses cannot open an iPod touch or iPad no matter the generation. If you have AppleCare+ (which is a bargain compared to that Asurion Insurance your carrier provides) you get a brand new iOS device for $49-$99. Before you go writing articles and spreading hate, how about you do some research on Apple.com and educate yourself. I also have to add, when your android device breaks where do you get it fixed?
At least you get paid for being a shill, being a fanboy is just embarrassing.
Not a "fanboy", just someone who has had enough other experience to appreciate the insane level of detail to which Apple's products are designed and manufactured.
Shouldn't have to pay twice for patent royalties, profit, etc, so why dont they exchange it at cost if its before the expected life of the item
Bro, get a system76 laptop. It offers the just works experience for Linux. And if you want to muck about in the internals, try a new GUI, or install your favorite oss software, its at your discretion.
There never was a charge for note.
Does that logically mean you never checked?
(Btw: your point should have been: "adding a drawing is only possible in notes on iOS)
Hey if the opportunity is there I'm going to take it. When capitalist business people do that it's called good business.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
No I actually did check. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong software. A business partner made a presentation for me and I wanted to read it but there was not linux or windows version and it cost $30 in the Apple store.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Unfortunate that every article post now turns into a flame war. Use to have civil discourse.
Uhmm... If you can unbrick something with a firmware/software update, it wasn't really bricked to begin with. So before you call anyone a liar, maybe you should also stop being just as much of a liar yourself !
Apple just de-certified the company my employer used to fix MacBook Pro devices, forcing my organization to send warranty repairs directly to Apple.
Given that Apple is now releasing buggy software like Microsoft, they have lost any vestige of creating a superior product. Given the add ons and extensions out there, your best bet for a basic computer is a Chromebook.
I just don't understand why you want to post to a tech blog if you don't understand tech. If you have trouble understanding this article then you can probably get the neighbors 9 year old to explain it to you:
http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/18/apple-apologizes-and-updates-ios-to-restore-iphones-disabled-by-error-53/
Third world 'recycling' - repair and resell what you can, throw the rest in a burn pile so the village children can pick out the metal bits.
It's fine to publicise these fact, but we need to promote sustainability at all levels and all stages of products' life-cycles.
The first thing we need is to demand legislation that makes it an OFFENCE to sell products that have built-in obsolescence.
This kind of legislation would require product developers to INTERNALISE the cost of obsolescence, taking back ALL product for FREE and make repairable, robust products designed to be upgradeable.
Yes, this would put pay to ALL my Apple products, but I (and millions like me) would happily swap the convenience of my iPad Mini for a repairable machine that would last 30 years.
Consumption rates MUST DECLINE RAPIDLY, else we have absolutely no way of beginning to clean up the oceans of waste we have created.
That must have been a long time ago, because I haven't had to do the majority of those things for a *long* time. The most annoyance I had when when I bought an APU and had to wait a few weeks before AMD had a proper driver to support it, or possibly when trying to get surround from a HDMI on a specific device that had a weird integrated chipset.
First off : I would consider a $30 metal pin or a $1000 toilet paper sheet expensive. This is a stupid piece of hardware worth about 10 EUR, but since it's Apple it costs closer to 50EUR here. So yes : expensive. Not that it is relevant but if you must know around the Hanami, a good hotel room cost about 200EUR/day and the meal typically from 50EUR up to 250EUR. The thing is : they are worth it.
Second: for being able to write back : http://www.apple.com/shop/ques...
Thanks for the product reference, but now I've got the linux/arm box way. Easy, light, small, and I can do whatever I want with it.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
This is precisely why I'm still running on a seven year old MBP.
Though with only a core-2 duo CPU it's quite a bit slower than current models, you can actually upgrade memory and repair it all by yourself!
Hopefully Fake Tim Jobs will wake up one day and realize that by making the hardware impossible to work on, Apple is alienating the very tech savy people who came to love said machines in the first place.
Am never buying another Mac until they dump the glue and soldered memory.
I used to hang around Stack Overflow, mostly answering C++ questions. There were two types of questions I found frustrating. One was the really vague type, usually from someone who wasn't all that good at English. Unfortunately, they tended to compensate for their lack of English communication skills by writing very little, rather than going into details in bad English and erring on the side of saying too much.
The other type was "I want to do a dumb thing, how do I do it?". This was invariably a case of someone having a problem, coming up with a bad idea on how to fix it, and posting problems with their incorrect solution rather than the original problem. In this case, Thanatiel had a problem concerning how to back up a big SD card, came up with a solution that didn't work, and is upset about it.
I'm not really fond of Apple's information flows, but there are better ways to do that, and there's got to be a place or three in Japan where you can get something technical done.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Well, at least you earn all that shilling money. Who else would be posting so many glowing reviews about how awesome Apple is on a story about Apple being shits about allowing third party repairs and overcharging for the repairs they offer.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Coren22 quoted and outed as a proven liar https://slashdot.org/comments.... + he ran when asked questions https://slashdot.org/comments.... ? Give us a break. You're a piece of shit fake name online do nothing troll nobody that knows shit and does nothing of any value.
Well, at least you earn all that shilling money. Who else would be posting so many glowing reviews about how awesome Apple is on a story about Apple being shits about allowing third party repairs and overcharging for the repairs they offer.
God, I WISH I was being paid!