This particular scuffle is everything to do with banks wanting to keep all the 2-5% transactions fees rather than share it with a phone vendor who has developed moderately secure payment hardware that is in the hands of millions of people.
Right. Because the banks are SO greedy (which they are), they can't even stomach someone else like Apple getting a whole 0.15%, for which people would have to pay for $451 BILLION dollars of stuff to even affect Apple's earnings by 1%. That's ridiculous of them. Right after we kill-off the lawyers, let's go after the bankers...
Marketing managers need to answer to the physicists and engineers and chemists, not command them.
And the engineers that are responsible for the SoC in the S7 need to be fired, for making a design that eats nearly TWICE the power for a given set of tasks as the iPhone 7, and still delivers sub-par performance.
I hear people are warming up to it though.........
I used to switch between iPhones and android every time I switched phones, and it had zero to do with specific models. I just got annoyed enough at whatever mobile OS I was using to switch. Now I'm sticking with Android. Both OSes annoy me, but at least with Android I can avoid the obnoxious Apple aesthetic.
Glad to see you based your decision on sound, fact-based, feature-comparative, principles.
. . ..there are, or WERE three choices: the Galaxy Note 7, the iPhone 7, and the Pixel.
With the Samsung, pulled, that leaves 2 remaining choices. A 50-50 split is pretty much expected, all things being equal. But, as noted elsewhere, at least with the Pixel, you're still in the Android ecosystem. ..
Marketing managers need to answer to the physicists and engineers and chemists, not command them.
And the engineers that are responsible for the SoC in the S7 need to be fired, for making a design that eats nearly TWICE the power for a given set of tasks as the iPhone 7, and still delivers sub-par performance.
...and fast charging times. But with the S7's power-hog of a design (twice the battery of the iPhone 7, for only 6% better run-time, and actually LESS run-time than the iPhone 7 Plus!) means that Samsung had to not only "tickle the Dragon's tail", but to insert a finger or two up the Dragon's ass to try and get reasonably close to the iPhone's two hour charge time with their nearly 4,000 mAh battery. And the result exploded in their face, as the Dragon awoke to find that it was being anally-violated...
And for those people who are hand-wringing over the 3.5mm jack removal on the iPhone 7 (even though Apple includes an adapter for free), this company has a nifty little adapter for $10 that has a 3.5 mm jack and a female Lightning port, so you can charge and listen at the same time. They also are going to offer a $20 unit that will have both dual Lightning ports PLUS the 3.5 mm jack. So that "problem" is well and truly solved.
If they used a Note instead of cheaper Android phones, then they wanted the stylus and multi-pane Note features. iPhone7 doesn't offer those. They'll switch to Note 6, or one of the other stylus Android phones from other manufacturers.
"KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors..."
So it's just one mans opinion and he didn't think it through.
Stylus, no; but multi-pane? iOS 10 has multi-pane (split-screen), but only for the iPad. Apple surmises (probably after doing some experimenting), that multiple windows on a small display is pretty silly (which it is), when you can just Swipe to switch Applications.
Now, although it appears that the iPhone 7 does not support the Apple Pencil, an off-hand remark by Tim Cook seems to indicate that Apple is at least considering having Pencil support in either the iPhone 7 or an upcoming model.
Sticking with my Note 4 until something better comes along. Pixel XL certainly isn't it. I'm hoping Samsung throws every good engineer they have into pushing the Note 8 out in Q1.
Oh, Samsung has proven many times that they have absolutely NO problem with pushing products out before they are really ready...
My question was primarily this - what are the 70% of Note users who are not switching to the iPhone 7 doing? People buy a Note because they want a phablet. They aren't going to downgrade to a smaller phone, most likely.
I know it will be pooh-poohed on Slashdot, but losing 30% of the users of your flagship product is NOT trivial.
Well, considering that Samsung has now committed genocide on an entire GENERATION of its top-of-the-line phones (and the only phones to somewhat-seriously compete with the iPhone), I think that is one of the biggest factors behind the "switchers" being in such high-numbers.
Except Apple is hardly competition for someone who wants an Android.
But what you don't see, is that, outside of Slashdot and some other "Geek" sites, not very many people even know what an "Android" is, other than Commander Data.
But they know Samsung and they know Apple/iPhone. And they know one of them just screwed up royally, and their name is Samsung.
So in their minds, that leaves "the other guys" (Apple).
I think a lot of people assume it's a Samsung ecosystem they're switching out of, not Android.
I also think a lot of people, myself included, assume analysts are full of hot air.
Actually, multiple sources have come to the same conclusion. Other than the exact percentages, they all agree that there is a significant movement away from Samsung, and to specifically the iPhone.
I guess I would never be at one of these events in the first place. I hate concerts and never go anymore. But, if I were to go - two phones. 1 in my sock maybe. No problem. I wouldn't want to record their lame concert / comedy - but would want to be able to access the device in the situations you mention.
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This particular scuffle is everything to do with banks wanting to keep all the 2-5% transactions fees rather than share it with a phone vendor who has developed moderately secure payment hardware that is in the hands of millions of people.
Right. Because the banks are SO greedy (which they are), they can't even stomach someone else like Apple getting a whole 0.15%, for which people would have to pay for $451 BILLION dollars of stuff to even affect Apple's earnings by 1%. That's ridiculous of them. Right after we kill-off the lawyers, let's go after the bankers...
Marketing managers need to answer to the physicists and engineers and chemists, not command them.
And the engineers that are responsible for the SoC in the S7 need to be fired, for making a design that eats nearly TWICE the power for a given set of tasks as the iPhone 7, and still delivers sub-par performance.
I hear people are warming up to it though.........
Ba dum-BUMP!
Between the Note and the "waterproof" fiasco, I'm guessing there is some chair-throwing going on at Samsung HQ
If not, there oughta be!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the people who know what Commander Data is know exactly what an "Android" phone is.
My mom thinks her phone is "The Google" and would have no idea how Samsung relates to it.
It was just a handy reference.
I used to switch between iPhones and android every time I switched phones, and it had zero to do with specific models. I just got annoyed enough at whatever mobile OS I was using to switch. Now I'm sticking with Android. Both OSes annoy me, but at least with Android I can avoid the obnoxious Apple aesthetic.
Glad to see you based your decision on sound, fact-based, feature-comparative, principles.
and in much larger quantities than 100 out of ~2.5M
Name one.
But how many will go from a VW TDi to a moped?
No, there people will pick one of the dozens of other Android phone makers because they want the capabilities that the Androids have.
My suspicion is that the Pixel will be the big winner in all of this, though there are better choices out there.
You are full of shit.
. . . .there are, or WERE three choices: the Galaxy Note 7, the iPhone 7, and the Pixel.
With the Samsung, pulled, that leaves 2 remaining choices. A 50-50 split is pretty much expected, all things being equal. But, as noted elsewhere, at least with the Pixel, you're still in the Android ecosystem. . .
You say that like it's a good thing...
My over 2.5 year old Galaxy S5 just got an update from Samsung last week.
And my five year old iPhone and nearly six year old iPad just got an update a month ago.
Perhaps the brush with death inspired someone to live a little more.. on the edge?
No, I think the Edge was recalled, too...
So what Mr. Cook meant by "courage" was it would take courage for brand loyal consumers to switch from Androids to an inferior Apple product.
What is "inferior", pray tell, about the iPhone 7? Answer carefully, as I can most likely logically and factually refute any of your reasoning.
Some of us like headphone jacks!
That's why the iPhone 7 comes with a headphone jack. Right on the end of the handy, included headphone adapter.
Marketing managers need to answer to the physicists and engineers and chemists, not command them.
And the engineers that are responsible for the SoC in the S7 need to be fired, for making a design that eats nearly TWICE the power for a given set of tasks as the iPhone 7, and still delivers sub-par performance.
but dammit customers want a long battery life.
...and fast charging times. But with the S7's power-hog of a design (twice the battery of the iPhone 7, for only 6% better run-time, and actually LESS run-time than the iPhone 7 Plus!) means that Samsung had to not only "tickle the Dragon's tail", but to insert a finger or two up the Dragon's ass to try and get reasonably close to the iPhone's two hour charge time with their nearly 4,000 mAh battery. And the result exploded in their face, as the Dragon awoke to find that it was being anally-violated...
For the few that need a reminder, the iPhone7 also lacks a headphone jack,
And for the few that need a reminder, likely neither will the Samsung that replaces the S7 line.
And for those people who are hand-wringing over the 3.5mm jack removal on the iPhone 7 (even though Apple includes an adapter for free), this company has a nifty little adapter for $10 that has a 3.5 mm jack and a female Lightning port, so you can charge and listen at the same time. They also are going to offer a $20 unit that will have both dual Lightning ports PLUS the 3.5 mm jack. So that "problem" is well and truly solved.
If they used a Note instead of cheaper Android phones, then they wanted the stylus and multi-pane Note features. iPhone7 doesn't offer those. They'll switch to Note 6, or one of the other stylus Android phones from other manufacturers.
"KGI analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in a note to investors..."
So it's just one mans opinion and he didn't think it through.
Stylus, no; but multi-pane? iOS 10 has multi-pane (split-screen), but only for the iPad. Apple surmises (probably after doing some experimenting), that multiple windows on a small display is pretty silly (which it is), when you can just Swipe to switch Applications.
Now, although it appears that the iPhone 7 does not support the Apple Pencil, an off-hand remark by Tim Cook seems to indicate that Apple is at least considering having Pencil support in either the iPhone 7 or an upcoming model.
Sticking with my Note 4 until something better comes along. Pixel XL certainly isn't it. I'm hoping Samsung throws every good engineer they have into pushing the Note 8 out in Q1.
Oh, Samsung has proven many times that they have absolutely NO problem with pushing products out before they are really ready...
My question was primarily this - what are the 70% of Note users who are not switching to the iPhone 7 doing? People buy a Note because they want a phablet. They aren't going to downgrade to a smaller phone, most likely.
I know it will be pooh-poohed on Slashdot, but losing 30% of the users of your flagship product is NOT trivial.
Well, considering that Samsung has now committed genocide on an entire GENERATION of its top-of-the-line phones (and the only phones to somewhat-seriously compete with the iPhone), I think that is one of the biggest factors behind the "switchers" being in such high-numbers.
I think the average consumer feels it's Coke vs Pepsi. A few people violently care, but most people don't really care at all.
Or only "care" because some relative/friend has told them to "care".
All they want is a shiny new phone.
...that won't burn their car down while it sits in the driveway...
Except Apple is hardly competition for someone who wants an Android.
But what you don't see, is that, outside of Slashdot and some other "Geek" sites, not very many people even know what an "Android" is, other than Commander Data.
But they know Samsung and they know Apple/iPhone. And they know one of them just screwed up royally, and their name is Samsung.
So in their minds, that leaves "the other guys" (Apple).
I think a lot of people assume it's a Samsung ecosystem they're switching out of, not Android.
I also think a lot of people, myself included, assume analysts are full of hot air.
Actually, multiple sources have come to the same conclusion. Other than the exact percentages, they all agree that there is a significant movement away from Samsung, and to specifically the iPhone.
the pixel is the obvious replacement here. swapping ecosystems because of a bad phone??? doesn't make sense
Until Google gets tired of it and cancels the Project.
Oh, and underneath it all, it's still Android.
I guess I would never be at one of these events in the first place. I hate concerts and never go anymore. But, if I were to go - two phones. 1 in my sock maybe. No problem. I wouldn't want to record their lame concert / comedy - but would want to be able to access the device in the situations you mention.
Well aren't you special!