That's the rub; thieves have to open them efficiently to avoid getting busted, and so they have specialized tools.
Maintenance workers don't have to do it efficiently, they have to do it within some portion of a work shift, and they don't have to avoid detection or anything. And they already have lots of generalized metal cutting tools. So that is what they use. They're not going to get special tools just for cutting certain locks; they're going to have bolt cutters, grinders, cutting wheels, hack saws, etc.
Indeed, it is no remedy at all, and because of that you'll find yourself being billed for the cost of removal, including if they hired a tow company to do it for them.
Not being a remedy just means it isn't subtracted from your fine, it doesn't mean that it doesn't still happen. The thing that towing the vehicle remedies is that it is in the way of other vehicles that might want to park legally, or otherwise use the public space that the illegally parked conveyance is blocking. You don't necessarily even have to be illegally parked for this to happen, just being in the way is often enough.
When the do construction, they post notice on the side of the street for some number of days in advance, if they can. Vehicles that don't get moved, get towed. They never illegally parked or anything. And yet, they're still responsible for their vehicle and should have moved it. If it is emergency construction without a notice period, you don't get billed, but they still move the vehicles, and any inconvenience you suffer is your own problem.
If you're parked illegally, your loss of a $100 lock was your own fault. If they were mistaken about your parking, they'll have to pay it back later. If it was just in the way but legal, they'll pay sooner, but they won't want to hear you whine and cry about it.
Why the heck would a police officer be cutting your bike lock unless you are illegally parked?
For example, maybe he's an idiot and thought it was illegally parked, even though you carefully made sure you thought it was OK. Maybe there was a problem with the signs, and it was unclear. Maybe somebody intentionally placed a sign in a place where bikes would be removed if parked, because they wanted to make a funny prank video.
Maybe you were legally parked and there was a water leak and the utility company decided to dig up the concrete under your bike, and so they had the police cut the lock.
Maybe it resembled a bicycle that was recently reported stolen, and the officer thought he was recovering it.
Maybe somebody knew you had a booby-trapped lock and didn't like you, and paid somebody to make up a story that would cause the officer to cut the lock.
The possible circumstances are nearly endless, I could write thousands of pages of examples. It would not be an exciting book. Locks get cut very often, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not.
In my State they have to be on private property, at least some distance from any property line, clearly marked, and in a rural unincorporated area. In addition to all the specific rules about the technology used.
They're not useful for keeping out humans. Some commenters clearly have a silly TV image of a chain link fence with electricity running through the whole thing.
They have distinct advantages over booby traps, though: They're activated intentionally after the bike has been stolen.
Totally illegal, but you're not going to accidentally taze a cop who is cutting the lock for whatever reason, you're not going to cause a terrorist scare when your bike gets run over, etc. You're not going to cause an airplane to be grounded when it explodes in the hold.
So it is way less likely that anybody is going to care. And if somebody dies, probably don't post the video? I mean, people who die after being tazed die of heart attacks. It isn't like their head is going to be cooked or anything. Tweaker stole a bike, had a heart attack and crashed. Heart attack is a leading cause of death for drug addicts. Most bike thieves are drug addicts. I totally agree it is a horrible crime and people who commit it could go to prison. But... way less likely than a person setting an unattended booby trap, who won't even be there to cover their own ass when shit goes sideways.
That's the great thing about pepper spray; you don't have to look tough, or take classes, or exercise, or be coordinated or athletic, you just have to get it out of your pocket, fumble the plastic guard to the side, and press the button down and either you or the other guy has a face full of spray.
If a police official cut off a lock and got sprayed by that, I wouldn't be surprised to see a DA pressing booby-trap charges, as well as civil charges being files.
The thing is, they wouldn't even know what it was, just that there was a chemical released. If it was in a major metro it would be an international incident and it would be hours from the first news reports until word got out what actually happened. It isn't just, you assaulted a cop and the DA is gonna charge it as something; it would be, you freaked out half the country and they can choose from a wide variety of serious felonies at multiple levels of jurisdiction.
It is just a character on your keyboard, it is not a magical spell to win arguments.
You don't actually have the physical power to suspend the laws of physics and prevent a chemical from exiting a container because you used a dot on the internet. If there is a flaw in the metal, it will still fail. If the container is deformed due to a traffic accident, it will fail. If the pressure release value that prevents it from exploding when taken on an airplane has a flaw in some little piece of extruded plastic, it will fail.
Nobody gives a shit about the character., it is just ascii 0xe2. No, saying "my product is magical and can never leak" will not lead to readers of slashdot thinking, "Gosh, that Harry Potter kid is sure something!" No, they're going to say, "Expect the unexpected, you're obviously not a fucking engineer."
Right, shooting things is OK or not depending on your intent.
If you set a booby-trap, you'll find that the part of your intent that the law measures is if you intended to set the booby-trap, not why you set a booby-trap. You'll be surprised when they listen to your excuse and your claimed reason and not their heads and point out that you've simply admitted your motive and confessed!
The intent of installing an air bag inflator is to activate a life-saving device. The intent of a bobby-trap is to cause some sort of negative effect when triggered, without the need of a human to check first to verify that they have some sort of narrowly defined special right to do harm to that person. By definition a booby-trap is not self-defense; it is activated automatically. And the intent is to harm. So even if you harmed a thief, in a jurisdiction where it is allowed to do that harm to thieves, you'd still not be allowed to do this because when you set the booby-trap, you had not already identified the thief.
If somebody threatens you with bodily harm and you pepper spray them, you're committing innocent self-defense in jurisdictions that allow possession of pepper spray. If you take that same pepper spray and set it up to spray whoever cuts or otherwise damages your bike lock, you're a terrorist. It is really that simple.
What if, for example, an authorized person cuts the lock because they determine (wrongly, perhaps) that your bike was illegally parked? They owe you for the damage, but you're not allowed to attack them with a chemical. What if they're allergic? What if they have a weakened immune system and die? You're going to prison, buddy.
Like some random idiot said, "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Hey there brainiac, sorry to question somebody so superior to us `tards, but I don't think a gas can secure a bicycle from theft. You might want to consult some sort of gas dispersal law to check, if you're not sure.
Just saying, "no I was doing [same thing using innocent sounding words]" doesn't actually protect you from going to prison when you do something, I dunno, cause a terrorist response from emergency services because your man-trap accidentally discharged at an inconvenient place and time.
For example, a taxi with a foreign driver crashes into your parked bicycle, and the whole metro shuts down because they thought it was a chemical attack. And it won't be a "false alarm" at all, they will discover that the chemical was indeed installed in the bike lock in order to cause discomfort.
If you built this in your garage and caused an incident, you'd go to prison. If you sell this as a product, the first time it causes an incident you'll get shut down, and threatened with prison if you do it again.
Is it even legal to use this in any developed country? Any sort of problem (a delay in the mechanism, failure or bystanders) and you got a terrorism charge.
Straight out of "A Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson.
No, there is no way that this is legal in most countries. Even places that let you straight up shoot a thief doesn't allow booby-traps. The reason that electric fences are allowed is that lots of research has gone into electrocuting people, and electric fences uses designs widely believed to be safe. This particular man-trap won't have that sort of research. Furthermore, it will cause significant alarm, predictably, because there will be some sort of unknown chemical leak.
I laughed when I saw this, but I don't really want to live in a place that allows it. I'm sure half of Asia will permit it though. And perhaps in those places the balance of risk is different. I don't know.
There is a thing called COW (copy on write). There is a bug where worker code can ride the cow over the fence and gain access to the farmer's private yard.
Moral of the story: Don't let people ride your cows, let them find their own darn *nix shell.
Or more literal version: People with user access can get administrator access without permission.
Upgrades never works properly regardless of the OS(Windows, OSX, Linux, BSD).
You're obviously not a linux or bsd user! LOL
Upgrades rarely cause an application to fail. They do not routinely cause system crashes, freezes, etc. Even application failures are years between. And that is linux. Over in BSD-land, it is very rare indeed because they're basically allergic to adding new features in a bug fix.
Americans really don't know how good they have it.
Hey Dillweed, I'm gonna call you out on that. For one whole year I expect you NOT to call Americans arrogant. Who the bleep told you we don't know how good we have it?! Of all the anti-American nonsense I hear, this one just really stands out as being daft. Of all the things we're good at, knowing that we've got it better has got to be right up there at the top.
Even a random moron living in a trailer park with no health care can tell you they've got it better than some Frenchy socialist.
I leverage this as a "vote with your wallet" factor; small local business I want to support? I'll pay with debit and lower their transaction fees. Chain store I didn't really want to shop at, but they already displaced the local supplier? Credit, and I get 1% back.
If you had a choice between "universe with `reward' programs" or "universe without," then you'd be paying for the rewards. When we're stuck in a universe that has them, and that has unified prices, well then no, everybody even cash customers are paying for the average transaction fee, and the person with the rewards card is paying less.
At employee-owned businesses like regional chains Winco and Bi-Mart, I always use debit and save them the fees.
At locally-owned gas stations with lower prices they'll have a cash price and a credit price. The big chains don't bother, because they have enough volume to pay much lower transaction fees.
True, but the published evidence that I've heard is that the attacks came from IPs within Russia.
I dispute this. If you read any article with informative sources, you'd know that everbody in the media is basing their reporting on classified data they haven't seen and that all they got was the conclusion (that is was Russia) and how confident they are about it. (very) That's all that is known. We don't have the IPs, we do have broad speculation. Most of the of people talking about IPs are talking about them just as a general example of "something I've heard people claim means something it doesn't mean," not anything relating to having information about this actual situation.
And we also know that spies have always been morons.
No, you know that. I know that they're professionals, and if nothing else they're less likely than average to act like morons in any particular case.
Most people don't smoke weed. It costs them very little to leave me out, when by doing so they're choosing people more conformist. You don't seem to understand the decisions they're making from their point of view. Consider looking up "theory of mind." It is never too late to start.
Right, but you went running to "try to disprove this part I don't understand" instead of asking yourself, "why are smart people claiming that it helps to be removable?"
And the answer you might have found would be that if it is removable, and there is a batch of bad batteries discovered after they've already been installed, you can replace them without replacing the whole device. The thing you tried to refute isn't a thing anybody said. Who cares if it doesn't correlate to things I didn't say it correlates to? Not me, that's for sure.
The combination of "battery blows up" and "can't replace battery" combines in a special way. And there may actually be more to it than you realize; replaceable batteries are thicker. The ones that are pushing the manufacturing boundaries and creating accidental bombs are the ones that are trying to be thin. As a consumer, when you choose replaceable you're not choosing extra thin.
My phone blows up less, and it has a replaceable battery. It isn't any thicker than a wallet. It fits in a pocket. Maybe I'm just old, but I don't really benefit if it gets thinner. It isn't an `80s backpack phone, after all.
They really need to clue in and start taking batteries seriously again, like in the olden days. Household-name battery companies should be stepping in and releasing OEM lithium battery packs. It could be a major selling point to have "Now with Trusted Brand(TM) battery pack! Think of the Children!"
We have a satellite up in space with a giant mind control beam making it appear that reality favors the Democrats, but don't fear, nothing is real, it is all projected into your mind by the apparatus.
I mean, or else your party flag-bearers lied to you. But that is too impossible to consider.
I'm not sure about your argument here. Lets break it down. You're saying that because it is physically possible for somebody other than the accused to commit the same type of act, at any time or place, then it impossible for the accused to have been the one who did it at the stated time and place.
That is so stupid, I'm not even sure there is a name for that one.
Yes, it is so simple that others could have done it. Therefore it was obviously within their capabilities to do it! We do not have any public information about what classified evidence people who are making the accusations are relying on. In time it will all come out, but probably not in the short term during events. But the US does have this thing called "signals intelligence," so you should be cautious about just dismissing out of hand the idea that there could be evidence of who did it.
And clearly the NTSB sides with me on this, because otherwise these devices wouldn't be allowed.
LMFAO! OR, they don't even make those rules, your state does. Derp-y Dan always has the gubermint on his side, and he knows it, because he already knows he's right so the Authoritays must agree because they're smaht and stuff.
My advice, look up the word "tactile." I don't think you understood the complaint, or that many of us don't look away from the road even long enough for one non-tactile interaction, much less to navigate a menu.
You're probably one of those magical beings that knows everything that is around your car, even while you're fiddling with the center console, because gosh, it was "all clear" last time you looked up! I hope I'm not the one coming the other way when you come around a corner and cross the center line, but all I can do is hope.
I personally prefer Unicorn-powered cars.... they never need to be replaced, and there's practically zero maintenance required..
You have to tap their vascular system if you want to make use of their power. They're not going to last forever, they may live thousands of years in the wild, but being strapped to a car with their blood draining out? No. You're going to need to catch a new one every few years, talk about a time sink.
And if you don't think any maintenance is involved, you just don't realize what all that rainbow-colored sherbet squirting everywhere really is. I'll give you a hint, it isn't a laser light show. And it will eat right through your paint job, and even etch your windshield.
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That's the rub; thieves have to open them efficiently to avoid getting busted, and so they have specialized tools.
Maintenance workers don't have to do it efficiently, they have to do it within some portion of a work shift, and they don't have to avoid detection or anything. And they already have lots of generalized metal cutting tools. So that is what they use. They're not going to get special tools just for cutting certain locks; they're going to have bolt cutters, grinders, cutting wheels, hack saws, etc.
Indeed, it is no remedy at all, and because of that you'll find yourself being billed for the cost of removal, including if they hired a tow company to do it for them.
Not being a remedy just means it isn't subtracted from your fine, it doesn't mean that it doesn't still happen. The thing that towing the vehicle remedies is that it is in the way of other vehicles that might want to park legally, or otherwise use the public space that the illegally parked conveyance is blocking. You don't necessarily even have to be illegally parked for this to happen, just being in the way is often enough.
When the do construction, they post notice on the side of the street for some number of days in advance, if they can. Vehicles that don't get moved, get towed. They never illegally parked or anything. And yet, they're still responsible for their vehicle and should have moved it. If it is emergency construction without a notice period, you don't get billed, but they still move the vehicles, and any inconvenience you suffer is your own problem.
If you're parked illegally, your loss of a $100 lock was your own fault. If they were mistaken about your parking, they'll have to pay it back later. If it was just in the way but legal, they'll pay sooner, but they won't want to hear you whine and cry about it.
Why the heck would a police officer be cutting your bike lock unless you are illegally parked?
For example, maybe he's an idiot and thought it was illegally parked, even though you carefully made sure you thought it was OK. Maybe there was a problem with the signs, and it was unclear. Maybe somebody intentionally placed a sign in a place where bikes would be removed if parked, because they wanted to make a funny prank video.
Maybe you were legally parked and there was a water leak and the utility company decided to dig up the concrete under your bike, and so they had the police cut the lock.
Maybe it resembled a bicycle that was recently reported stolen, and the officer thought he was recovering it.
Maybe somebody knew you had a booby-trapped lock and didn't like you, and paid somebody to make up a story that would cause the officer to cut the lock.
The possible circumstances are nearly endless, I could write thousands of pages of examples. It would not be an exciting book. Locks get cut very often, sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not.
In my State they have to be on private property, at least some distance from any property line, clearly marked, and in a rural unincorporated area. In addition to all the specific rules about the technology used.
They're not useful for keeping out humans. Some commenters clearly have a silly TV image of a chain link fence with electricity running through the whole thing.
Mmm. And you can just put one of those up alongside a busy city sidewalk or next to a primary school can you?
If there's no law against you installing it, then yes you most definitely can put one in; a school being nearby doesn't affect that.
Mighty big "if" you got there. And "what if" there actually is a law?
They have distinct advantages over booby traps, though: They're activated intentionally after the bike has been stolen.
Totally illegal, but you're not going to accidentally taze a cop who is cutting the lock for whatever reason, you're not going to cause a terrorist scare when your bike gets run over, etc. You're not going to cause an airplane to be grounded when it explodes in the hold.
So it is way less likely that anybody is going to care. And if somebody dies, probably don't post the video? I mean, people who die after being tazed die of heart attacks. It isn't like their head is going to be cooked or anything. Tweaker stole a bike, had a heart attack and crashed. Heart attack is a leading cause of death for drug addicts. Most bike thieves are drug addicts. I totally agree it is a horrible crime and people who commit it could go to prison. But... way less likely than a person setting an unattended booby trap, who won't even be there to cover their own ass when shit goes sideways.
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That's the great thing about pepper spray; you don't have to look tough, or take classes, or exercise, or be coordinated or athletic, you just have to get it out of your pocket, fumble the plastic guard to the side, and press the button down and either you or the other guy has a face full of spray.
If a police official cut off a lock and got sprayed by that, I wouldn't be surprised to see a DA pressing booby-trap charges, as well as civil charges being files.
The thing is, they wouldn't even know what it was, just that there was a chemical released. If it was in a major metro it would be an international incident and it would be hours from the first news reports until word got out what actually happened. It isn't just, you assaulted a cop and the DA is gonna charge it as something; it would be, you freaked out half the country and they can choose from a wide variety of serious felonies at multiple levels of jurisdiction.
Period. as in ---> .
It is just a character on your keyboard, it is not a magical spell to win arguments.
You don't actually have the physical power to suspend the laws of physics and prevent a chemical from exiting a container because you used a dot on the internet. If there is a flaw in the metal, it will still fail. If the container is deformed due to a traffic accident, it will fail. If the pressure release value that prevents it from exploding when taken on an airplane has a flaw in some little piece of extruded plastic, it will fail.
Nobody gives a shit about the character ., it is just ascii 0xe2. No, saying "my product is magical and can never leak" will not lead to readers of slashdot thinking, "Gosh, that Harry Potter kid is sure something!" No, they're going to say, "Expect the unexpected, you're obviously not a fucking engineer."
Right, shooting things is OK or not depending on your intent.
If you set a booby-trap, you'll find that the part of your intent that the law measures is if you intended to set the booby-trap, not why you set a booby-trap. You'll be surprised when they listen to your excuse and your claimed reason and not their heads and point out that you've simply admitted your motive and confessed!
The intent of installing an air bag inflator is to activate a life-saving device. The intent of a bobby-trap is to cause some sort of negative effect when triggered, without the need of a human to check first to verify that they have some sort of narrowly defined special right to do harm to that person. By definition a booby-trap is not self-defense; it is activated automatically. And the intent is to harm. So even if you harmed a thief, in a jurisdiction where it is allowed to do that harm to thieves, you'd still not be allowed to do this because when you set the booby-trap, you had not already identified the thief.
If somebody threatens you with bodily harm and you pepper spray them, you're committing innocent self-defense in jurisdictions that allow possession of pepper spray. If you take that same pepper spray and set it up to spray whoever cuts or otherwise damages your bike lock, you're a terrorist. It is really that simple.
What if, for example, an authorized person cuts the lock because they determine (wrongly, perhaps) that your bike was illegally parked? They owe you for the damage, but you're not allowed to attack them with a chemical. What if they're allergic? What if they have a weakened immune system and die? You're going to prison, buddy.
Like some random idiot said, "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
Hey there brainiac, sorry to question somebody so superior to us `tards, but I don't think a gas can secure a bicycle from theft. You might want to consult some sort of gas dispersal law to check, if you're not sure.
Just saying, "no I was doing [same thing using innocent sounding words]" doesn't actually protect you from going to prison when you do something, I dunno, cause a terrorist response from emergency services because your man-trap accidentally discharged at an inconvenient place and time.
For example, a taxi with a foreign driver crashes into your parked bicycle, and the whole metro shuts down because they thought it was a chemical attack. And it won't be a "false alarm" at all, they will discover that the chemical was indeed installed in the bike lock in order to cause discomfort.
If you built this in your garage and caused an incident, you'd go to prison. If you sell this as a product, the first time it causes an incident you'll get shut down, and threatened with prison if you do it again.
Is it even legal to use this in any developed country? Any sort of problem (a delay in the mechanism, failure or bystanders) and you got a terrorism charge.
Straight out of "A Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson.
No, there is no way that this is legal in most countries. Even places that let you straight up shoot a thief doesn't allow booby-traps. The reason that electric fences are allowed is that lots of research has gone into electrocuting people, and electric fences uses designs widely believed to be safe. This particular man-trap won't have that sort of research. Furthermore, it will cause significant alarm, predictably, because there will be some sort of unknown chemical leak.
I laughed when I saw this, but I don't really want to live in a place that allows it. I'm sure half of Asia will permit it though. And perhaps in those places the balance of risk is different. I don't know.
Can someone explain this bug in English?
There is a thing called COW (copy on write). There is a bug where worker code can ride the cow over the fence and gain access to the farmer's private yard.
Moral of the story: Don't let people ride your cows, let them find their own darn *nix shell.
Or more literal version: People with user access can get administrator access without permission.
Upgrades never works properly regardless of the OS(Windows, OSX, Linux, BSD).
You're obviously not a linux or bsd user! LOL
Upgrades rarely cause an application to fail. They do not routinely cause system crashes, freezes, etc. Even application failures are years between. And that is linux. Over in BSD-land, it is very rare indeed because they're basically allergic to adding new features in a bug fix.
Americans really don't know how good they have it.
Hey Dillweed, I'm gonna call you out on that. For one whole year I expect you NOT to call Americans arrogant. Who the bleep told you we don't know how good we have it?! Of all the anti-American nonsense I hear, this one just really stands out as being daft. Of all the things we're good at, knowing that we've got it better has got to be right up there at the top.
Even a random moron living in a trailer park with no health care can tell you they've got it better than some Frenchy socialist.
I leverage this as a "vote with your wallet" factor; small local business I want to support? I'll pay with debit and lower their transaction fees. Chain store I didn't really want to shop at, but they already displaced the local supplier? Credit, and I get 1% back.
If you had a choice between "universe with `reward' programs" or "universe without," then you'd be paying for the rewards. When we're stuck in a universe that has them, and that has unified prices, well then no, everybody even cash customers are paying for the average transaction fee, and the person with the rewards card is paying less.
At employee-owned businesses like regional chains Winco and Bi-Mart, I always use debit and save them the fees.
At locally-owned gas stations with lower prices they'll have a cash price and a credit price. The big chains don't bother, because they have enough volume to pay much lower transaction fees.
True, but the published evidence that I've heard is that the attacks came from IPs within Russia.
I dispute this. If you read any article with informative sources, you'd know that everbody in the media is basing their reporting on classified data they haven't seen and that all they got was the conclusion (that is was Russia) and how confident they are about it. (very) That's all that is known. We don't have the IPs, we do have broad speculation. Most of the of people talking about IPs are talking about them just as a general example of "something I've heard people claim means something it doesn't mean," not anything relating to having information about this actual situation.
And we also know that spies have always been morons.
No, you know that. I know that they're professionals, and if nothing else they're less likely than average to act like morons in any particular case.
Most people don't smoke weed. It costs them very little to leave me out, when by doing so they're choosing people more conformist. You don't seem to understand the decisions they're making from their point of view. Consider looking up "theory of mind." It is never too late to start.
Right, but you went running to "try to disprove this part I don't understand" instead of asking yourself, "why are smart people claiming that it helps to be removable?"
And the answer you might have found would be that if it is removable, and there is a batch of bad batteries discovered after they've already been installed, you can replace them without replacing the whole device. The thing you tried to refute isn't a thing anybody said. Who cares if it doesn't correlate to things I didn't say it correlates to? Not me, that's for sure.
The combination of "battery blows up" and "can't replace battery" combines in a special way. And there may actually be more to it than you realize; replaceable batteries are thicker. The ones that are pushing the manufacturing boundaries and creating accidental bombs are the ones that are trying to be thin. As a consumer, when you choose replaceable you're not choosing extra thin.
My phone blows up less, and it has a replaceable battery. It isn't any thicker than a wallet. It fits in a pocket. Maybe I'm just old, but I don't really benefit if it gets thinner. It isn't an `80s backpack phone, after all.
They really need to clue in and start taking batteries seriously again, like in the olden days. Household-name battery companies should be stepping in and releasing OEM lithium battery packs. It could be a major selling point to have "Now with Trusted Brand(TM) battery pack! Think of the Children!"
We have a satellite up in space with a giant mind control beam making it appear that reality favors the Democrats, but don't fear, nothing is real, it is all projected into your mind by the apparatus.
I mean, or else your party flag-bearers lied to you. But that is too impossible to consider.
I'm not sure about your argument here. Lets break it down. You're saying that because it is physically possible for somebody other than the accused to commit the same type of act, at any time or place, then it impossible for the accused to have been the one who did it at the stated time and place.
That is so stupid, I'm not even sure there is a name for that one.
Yes, it is so simple that others could have done it. Therefore it was obviously within their capabilities to do it! We do not have any public information about what classified evidence people who are making the accusations are relying on. In time it will all come out, but probably not in the short term during events. But the US does have this thing called "signals intelligence," so you should be cautious about just dismissing out of hand the idea that there could be evidence of who did it.
And clearly the NTSB sides with me on this, because otherwise these devices wouldn't be allowed.
LMFAO! OR, they don't even make those rules, your state does. Derp-y Dan always has the gubermint on his side, and he knows it, because he already knows he's right so the Authoritays must agree because they're smaht and stuff.
or a not-yet-empty water bottle in a cupholder...
My advice, look up the word "tactile." I don't think you understood the complaint, or that many of us don't look away from the road even long enough for one non-tactile interaction, much less to navigate a menu.
You're probably one of those magical beings that knows everything that is around your car, even while you're fiddling with the center console, because gosh, it was "all clear" last time you looked up! I hope I'm not the one coming the other way when you come around a corner and cross the center line, but all I can do is hope.
I personally prefer Unicorn-powered cars.... they never need to be replaced, and there's practically zero maintenance required..
You have to tap their vascular system if you want to make use of their power. They're not going to last forever, they may live thousands of years in the wild, but being strapped to a car with their blood draining out? No. You're going to need to catch a new one every few years, talk about a time sink.
And if you don't think any maintenance is involved, you just don't realize what all that rainbow-colored sherbet squirting everywhere really is. I'll give you a hint, it isn't a laser light show. And it will eat right through your paint job, and even etch your windshield.