Bacon was not invented in the past hundred years in America you idiot.
The English had bacon in the Saxon era already.
When you watch that Vikings show on teevee, in that period of time, the food those English kings are eating would include bacon. It would have been spelled bacoun though.
Stop letting your neckbeard tell you such stupid things. Nobody is trying to take away your bacon. People who understand public health are not part of an anti-bacon conspiracy. The only reason your neckbeard is telling you to defend cancer is because it hates you, and doesn't even want you to taste real bacon.
Hey cluestick, the Logan Act doesn't ban citizens from saying words about foreign policy. That's just dumb.
Trump isn't even negotiating with Iran, so why the hell are you even talking about the Logan Act for contemporary stuff?
And even the broadest interpretation of the Logan Act would require Kerry only to support the treaty, because that was an official act of the United States. Having a new President doesn't undo the positions the US Government has taken, that's just banana-republicanism.
And it doesn't ban "undercutting," it bans contrary negotiations during official negotiations.
The Clinton stuff, you're really confused about your own words. I mean, fuck an A. You think the Logan Act bans people from accepting money from foreign governments to give speeches? You're wrong about the details of what actually happened, but who cares! The version you're pushing still wouldn't have anything at all to do with the Logan Act, and wouldn't be a crime at all under any circumstance.
You have to accept the $100 bill, and you have 2 weeks to return the surplus. If you refuse, then I have two weeks to pay you. But you'll be in the same situation then; I might over-pay, and you might have to return the surplus.
If you don't like it, don't loan me the $5 in the first place!
This is why most Americans already switched to Thai food.
Which is why Thai restaurants stock chopsticks. In Thailand, chopsticks are only used to eat Chinese food. But they know their American customers are switching away from Chinese food, so they stock the chopsticks.
Well, Ivan, see, it is like this; if you're smart enough not to trust anybody, then you should prefer equipment made by companies who are under the same type of government system that you are.
Americans and Europeans have mostly compatible civics, and so if the Europeans do something really naughty to me, they risk being punished by their own government. Same in reverse; if an American company does something really naughty to Europeans, they'll get in trouble.
If a Chinese, or Russian, company does something naughty to Americans, or Europeans, nothing bad will happen to them at all; they might even get a reward!
The reason it was recent is that Huawei is pretty new. Their market position was developed instantly, because they're part of the Chinese government.
Your comments about the US intelligence access at the network level are important to understanding this though.
The US government can spy on things just fine if you have a Huawei phone. So it isn't about that.
And it seems basically reasonable that it is a security risk for a foreign power with very very very different laws and civics to be in a position to disrupt our communication network. That's true even if we were currently getting along really well.
Bullshit, before the war the CIA assessment was leaked to the public.
It was purely one of the elected branches that was lying, and they control all the parts of the intelligence community that make public statements. The actual intelligence documents are only provided to different parts of government, not to the public; and Congress leaked it so people would know the Truth. It was only because of our un-elected intelligence community that we found out the truth!
My advice, stop reading so many spy novels, and your world will look less like one.
The hilarious part is that the US doesn't go off invading anybody without having our European allies at our side.
France opposed the Iraq War because they didn't think that the US was sending enough troops to occupy and maintain order; they didn't want to help unless it was done right! Can't blame them, a lot of Americans felt the same way about it.
Then all these French leftists get online and are all like, "schna, schna, schna" with their noses at the clouds gargling wine while feeling self-important, with no clue at all what their country's foreign policies are.
It isn't hard to find a German who is willing to say something bad about the US, but if we threaten to reduce the number troops we station there, they line the streets in protest! It is hilarious.
But the good news, the US isn't trying to sell this equipment, the goal is to get Americans and Allies to use equipment made by any of our European allies. If Europeans are selling it to the US and then buying it back, that sounds silly, and easy for them to solve. We're not asking the Allies to trust us, we're asking the Allies to trust themselves.
That only describes the non-European allies. Sure, allies like Egypt and Pakistan receive aid payments to keep them on our "side."
But our European allies are true friends, with a bond forged in blood and fortified with blood numerous times.
I know that really torques the Anti-Americans in Europe, and the Anti-Europeans in America, but it is still true, it is still the prevailing consensus on both sides.
Switches stopped working in Iraq because they drop "bombs" on electrical substations that have, instead of explosives, a giant spool of conductive filament that they spew out, which blows all the fuses and fries equipment that is easy to replace in times of peace, but difficult to replace during a war. This allows the widespread incapacitation of electric grids, and shuts down most land-based communication, with minimal loss of civilian life.
Even if an urban area quickly reroutes their power distribution, it is still going to be local generation. Land communications will still be down, your repeaters on long stretches won't have power.
Border clashes in India are not the same sort of war. Such reports are consistent with what you'd want your intelligence agency to say about the enemy, though, so it can't be believed at all. But if you saw it happen for yourself, it would be more clear what happened than if you're in Iraq and the war starts and your packets stop getting through.
As for your question; Americans have a high degree of Freedom. The government isn't allowed to tell people what phones to buy. And in fact, our laws prevent the government from passing laws that discriminate based on nationality. That's why all they can do control what the government buys, and make recommendations to the people. There are various things they can do on a temporary basis, like block imports from a specific country, but those types of decisions can be reviewed by the Courts; they have to have a real reason, not just a fear. Keeping the people safe is not really a legit government interest here, the way it is in most places. It has to already be harming people before the government is allowed to do much.
To stop regular people from using them, they'd have to instead force the corporations to stop allowing such phones on their networks, via the license needed for access to the public airwaves. That type of license, because it manages a limited shared resource, can give more consideration to general concerns about national security. But in all cases, it will still be allowed to have one of those phones, even if it doesn't work as a phone here.
Banning things is very difficult for the US Government to achieve, and requires cooperation from all three branches of government. Regulating things at the government's point of involvement is much easier.
This is about national security, and the top competitors are European.
I don't see why it is controversial that we should prefer to have sensitive equipment in our communications systems come from our actual friends and allies, instead of from countries that are politically hostile to our basic values.
The biggest thing is that civics and civil rights in Europe are similar to the rights in the US, so there is less risk of activities that would be harmful to our way of life.
We know that something in the processed meats in the American diet is causing colon cancer.
And we know that people eating traditionally processed meats do not have increased colon cancer.
It seems that all the people who want to argue about if it is the nitrites seem ignorant of that, and want to believe that maybe the processed meats on the US market are actually safe. But that's just ignorant bullshit.
If it isn't the nitrites, that's even worse than if it is, for the bacon eaters. It means we're that much farther away from finding the reason and making the food safe again.
A lot of people think that macho words hides you from the cancer; but it isn't true.
When you threaten the source of toxins, the neckbeard takes control of the host and releases chemicals into their brain that makes them feel as if the toxin is the mother they wished they had. They'll fight to the death for whatever cause their neckbeard tells them to support.
There is no reliable cure, even if there are anecdotal examples of somebody overcoming a neckbeard infection.
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I doubt he meant that, that's just stupid.
That's not anybody in the world's law, and that explains why it is phrased using diplomatic language instead of legal language.
That declaration is not a law anywhere on planet Earth. And other planets never even heard of it.
Bacon was not invented in the past hundred years in America you idiot.
The English had bacon in the Saxon era already.
When you watch that Vikings show on teevee, in that period of time, the food those English kings are eating would include bacon. It would have been spelled bacoun though.
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Stop letting your neckbeard tell you such stupid things. Nobody is trying to take away your bacon. People who understand public health are not part of an anti-bacon conspiracy. The only reason your neckbeard is telling you to defend cancer is because it hates you, and doesn't even want you to taste real bacon.
If you have to explain that, don't even loan that "farmer" money for planting.
Does being that clueless about the law cause whatever the law is called to go away?
Or is there some other system for how laws work?
It never happened to me, but the few times I did it, I just felt that is the natural thing that should happen to me.
So I just use cash, and pay for drinks as I order them. And I can leave at any time, too.
Fraud. Fucking duh.
Hey cluestick, the Logan Act doesn't ban citizens from saying words about foreign policy. That's just dumb.
Trump isn't even negotiating with Iran, so why the hell are you even talking about the Logan Act for contemporary stuff?
And even the broadest interpretation of the Logan Act would require Kerry only to support the treaty, because that was an official act of the United States. Having a new President doesn't undo the positions the US Government has taken, that's just banana-republicanism.
And it doesn't ban "undercutting," it bans contrary negotiations during official negotiations.
The Clinton stuff, you're really confused about your own words. I mean, fuck an A. You think the Logan Act bans people from accepting money from foreign governments to give speeches? You're wrong about the details of what actually happened, but who cares! The version you're pushing still wouldn't have anything at all to do with the Logan Act, and wouldn't be a crime at all under any circumstance.
You're simply wrong.
You have to accept the $100 bill, and you have 2 weeks to return the surplus. If you refuse, then I have two weeks to pay you. But you'll be in the same situation then; I might over-pay, and you might have to return the surplus.
If you don't like it, don't loan me the $5 in the first place!
All software-as-a-service has an inherent "kill-switch" type of functionality, even when not intended.
Why would an OS-as-a-service be an exception?
What a relief, since we all know there was no danger at all during the Cold War, and nothing bad happened to anybody. [/s]
This is why most Americans already switched to Thai food.
Which is why Thai restaurants stock chopsticks. In Thailand, chopsticks are only used to eat Chinese food. But they know their American customers are switching away from Chinese food, so they stock the chopsticks.
Well, Ivan, see, it is like this; if you're smart enough not to trust anybody, then you should prefer equipment made by companies who are under the same type of government system that you are.
Americans and Europeans have mostly compatible civics, and so if the Europeans do something really naughty to me, they risk being punished by their own government. Same in reverse; if an American company does something really naughty to Europeans, they'll get in trouble.
If a Chinese, or Russian, company does something naughty to Americans, or Europeans, nothing bad will happen to them at all; they might even get a reward!
Yeah, especially when it is websites in Asia doing the claiming on behalf of the US. ;)
The reason it was recent is that Huawei is pretty new. Their market position was developed instantly, because they're part of the Chinese government.
Your comments about the US intelligence access at the network level are important to understanding this though.
The US government can spy on things just fine if you have a Huawei phone. So it isn't about that.
And it seems basically reasonable that it is a security risk for a foreign power with very very very different laws and civics to be in a position to disrupt our communication network. That's true even if we were currently getting along really well.
Bullshit, before the war the CIA assessment was leaked to the public.
It was purely one of the elected branches that was lying, and they control all the parts of the intelligence community that make public statements. The actual intelligence documents are only provided to different parts of government, not to the public; and Congress leaked it so people would know the Truth. It was only because of our un-elected intelligence community that we found out the truth!
My advice, stop reading so many spy novels, and your world will look less like one.
That sounds good, but only if you have no clue who makes the alternatives.
For example, your Samsung isn't from the US.
The hilarious part is that the US doesn't go off invading anybody without having our European allies at our side.
France opposed the Iraq War because they didn't think that the US was sending enough troops to occupy and maintain order; they didn't want to help unless it was done right! Can't blame them, a lot of Americans felt the same way about it.
Then all these French leftists get online and are all like, "schna, schna, schna" with their noses at the clouds gargling wine while feeling self-important, with no clue at all what their country's foreign policies are.
It isn't hard to find a German who is willing to say something bad about the US, but if we threaten to reduce the number troops we station there, they line the streets in protest! It is hilarious.
But the good news, the US isn't trying to sell this equipment, the goal is to get Americans and Allies to use equipment made by any of our European allies. If Europeans are selling it to the US and then buying it back, that sounds silly, and easy for them to solve. We're not asking the Allies to trust us, we're asking the Allies to trust themselves.
That only describes the non-European allies. Sure, allies like Egypt and Pakistan receive aid payments to keep them on our "side."
But our European allies are true friends, with a bond forged in blood and fortified with blood numerous times.
I know that really torques the Anti-Americans in Europe, and the Anti-Europeans in America, but it is still true, it is still the prevailing consensus on both sides.
By definition, vassals send tribute and provide military assets.
The US accepts no tribute, and receives none. And even pays for most of the NATO military defense.
Find a book, learn you some history. "Vassal" doesn't mean, "has an ally that is larger."
Switches stopped working in Iraq because they drop "bombs" on electrical substations that have, instead of explosives, a giant spool of conductive filament that they spew out, which blows all the fuses and fries equipment that is easy to replace in times of peace, but difficult to replace during a war. This allows the widespread incapacitation of electric grids, and shuts down most land-based communication, with minimal loss of civilian life.
Even if an urban area quickly reroutes their power distribution, it is still going to be local generation. Land communications will still be down, your repeaters on long stretches won't have power.
Border clashes in India are not the same sort of war. Such reports are consistent with what you'd want your intelligence agency to say about the enemy, though, so it can't be believed at all. But if you saw it happen for yourself, it would be more clear what happened than if you're in Iraq and the war starts and your packets stop getting through.
As for your question; Americans have a high degree of Freedom. The government isn't allowed to tell people what phones to buy. And in fact, our laws prevent the government from passing laws that discriminate based on nationality. That's why all they can do control what the government buys, and make recommendations to the people. There are various things they can do on a temporary basis, like block imports from a specific country, but those types of decisions can be reviewed by the Courts; they have to have a real reason, not just a fear. Keeping the people safe is not really a legit government interest here, the way it is in most places. It has to already be harming people before the government is allowed to do much.
To stop regular people from using them, they'd have to instead force the corporations to stop allowing such phones on their networks, via the license needed for access to the public airwaves. That type of license, because it manages a limited shared resource, can give more consideration to general concerns about national security. But in all cases, it will still be allowed to have one of those phones, even if it doesn't work as a phone here.
Banning things is very difficult for the US Government to achieve, and requires cooperation from all three branches of government. Regulating things at the government's point of involvement is much easier.
The US Government isn't switching to US-made phone ICs, they're switching to European ones.
Exactly! This isn't about the trade war at all.
This is about national security, and the top competitors are European.
I don't see why it is controversial that we should prefer to have sensitive equipment in our communications systems come from our actual friends and allies, instead of from countries that are politically hostile to our basic values.
The biggest thing is that civics and civil rights in Europe are similar to the rights in the US, so there is less risk of activities that would be harmful to our way of life.
We know that something in the processed meats in the American diet is causing colon cancer.
And we know that people eating traditionally processed meats do not have increased colon cancer.
It seems that all the people who want to argue about if it is the nitrites seem ignorant of that, and want to believe that maybe the processed meats on the US market are actually safe. But that's just ignorant bullshit.
If it isn't the nitrites, that's even worse than if it is, for the bacon eaters. It means we're that much farther away from finding the reason and making the food safe again.
A lot of people think that macho words hides you from the cancer; but it isn't true.
When you threaten the source of toxins, the neckbeard takes control of the host and releases chemicals into their brain that makes them feel as if the toxin is the mother they wished they had. They'll fight to the death for whatever cause their neckbeard tells them to support.
There is no reliable cure, even if there are anecdotal examples of somebody overcoming a neckbeard infection.
That's the most hilarious part about it, the really good processed meats aren't bright red anyways.