I thought the Saudis did away with slavery back when JFK gave them the evil eye? Are women technically property or is that just an exaggeration? I have not been to Saudi Arabia. I do not think they will even let me in the country as a tourist or the likes. I am pretty sure I can not go to Mecca at least. I had thought that I was not even allowed on their soil unless I was a Muslim. Anyhow, are they really owned (as in property) still? I understand they have fewer rights but that does not make them slaves. Is slaves hyperbole or?
If you look at Microsoft's infrastructure and are honest about it - they keep that locked down pretty well and are surely subject to a whole bunch of attacks in myriad vectors. Yet you seldom hear about anything much happening at their end of things - the update servers never get hacked (I'd probably aim at those, personally), the ISOs never get corrupted on MSDN, nobody steals personal information, and nobody logs in and steals bunches of unknown MSDN or Technet keys.
They do have a bunch of Linux facing servers but, really, they seem to mostly rely on their own products. Yet they seem to be pretty damned secure to an outsider. I have some experience in Redmond (I was an MVP for years and years) but not even we heard about a whole lot - not even really major leaks. The source code for 2k was partially available (fully?) at one point. Hell, you can join the Shared Source Initiative and access Windows' source files yourself. Yet, those never seem to make it into the wild.
I am a member of a number of "underground" communities where exploits, kits, 0-days, source files, decompilers, etc are all for sale for a few bucks (even an ID is available at some of them). I never see anything targeted at Microsoft themselves. I mean, never... Someone would act and know if such were available. Microsoft is probably the largest target in the world - even a larger target then my own government. Yet, there they sit and they sit behind and using their own software.
Sure, they have expertise but, still, it seems really odd that they have gone this long with no real loss of valuable data or, at least, infrequent lost data. I am sure they have scads of information like credit card transactions and personal details. Yet, they never end up with that being hacked and online in a database somewhere or available as a torrent.
Wait, what? You can (notice I did not say had to) purchase content from Ubuntu for downloading via apt? That is, umm... Different? I'd expect something like that at RedHat but, Ubunto? How odd... When did they start this?
Note: I do not use Ubunto but I do use a fork that still uses plenty of Ubunto packages. I use Linux for Retards (Mint - cinnamon) and I like it because I do not have to screw with much to get it working. It has some bugs... I can deal with that. I can not set my wallpaper on this specific computer but I seldom see my wallpaper anyhow. I also can not add crap to the system tray - I was not really needing that anyhow.
But, seriously... That is kind of cheesy to be offering it through apt. It is not "wrong," I suppose. I would not call it right, either. I would call it cheesy. I am not sure how I would change it, mind you, but I am sure I'd not advocate it.
That might actually work in the state that I currently reside in. Maine has an Implied Merchantability Act that actually warranties things for a "reasonable length of time." This exceeds any manufacturer's warranties. Not many people know about it and fewer act on it. I know of no instance where this has been tried but, I suspect, it would be a reasonable case and would be heard and judged on its own merits. Few items have a defined implied merchantability length and most are subject to a judge's or jury's interpretation of "reasonable."
I have lived in a number of states that had such laws but I do not recall anyone I know using one in court. I have linked to the law and PDF in the past and had my money refunded when I got an inferior product that lacked quality. They did not want to refund my payment and it took linking them to the PDF and law to get them to act on it. I have only needed to do so once and it did not go to court.
Hah!!! I recommended that in another post before I saw this. Those crazy bastards have put diet loss on the list of prescribed uses? That is beautiful! It is also great if you're a truck driver.
Amphetamines. They just work - and you will have plenty of energy to boot! If you are ADHD then you will not get the same effect. I recommend crack (or just snorting it, foil hits work too but Real Men go for IV use) if you have ADHD and want to lose weight without dieting (on purpose) or exercising (with the real motive of exercising). The IV route is the best way to get the most bio availability and is *likely* the safest way to consume your drugs if done properly. Uncooked cocaine is water soluble. If you have to buy it cooked and want to IV it then you can just break it down with a 1:5 ratio of lemon juice and water. Use a 2 micron filter and, remember, you can always put more drugs in but you can not take them out. So, be careful kids.
This post should not be taken seriously. Factual? Yes. Serious? No. If you are going to use be smart about it. If the idiots that spent the time taking out every last air bubble spent that same time on safe injection practices there would be far fewer health complications. You have to inject a lot of air into you, in a short time, to actually be at risk of harm. You are far more likely to get an abscess or blood infection from using the damned needle until the numbers are worn off.
Short answer: Drugs. Long answer: Do not do drugs unless you really want to and have taken the time to educate yourself. They will work - well. You have my personal guarantee.
As someone who is an opiate addict (heroin is weak, screw that) the goal is not to get the first high again - that will never really happen unless you go off it and let your tolerance lower. We are just hoping for a high or just hoping to feel right again. You might get high the first couple of times you do it each day. Many of us wake (woke, in my case - I no longer use IV opiates and am on Suboxone so I will not get high no matter how much I do) up at certain times during the night just to shoot up again. I used to wake up every two or three hours to cram more Fentanyl into my body. Sometimes I would wear a patch (or three) just to ensure I did not need to shoot up or could sleep for a while.
Then again, I was a functioning and successful addict. Although I traveled into the world of Team Junkie I was never truly a part of it - my crimes consisted of consumption and acquisition. Eventually I found that it was easier, cheaper, and safer to go with a decent connect where I would get Fentanyl that had dropped off the delivery truck and had been lawfully destroyed. *cough cough* I had to buy in bulk but it was much cheaper to buy 500 Mylar patches than it was to buy them in groups of ten and it was a much more reliable source. I do not use, other than my Suboxone, today though that may change should I ever get the urge to start anew.
Anyhow, I do not have much of a point except to try to share that we junkies do not usually chase the original high. We know we will never get that. Most of us just get a little high in the morning (then maybe use a lot later in the day) and maintain the rest of the time so as to not get sick. Being dope sick is horrible. There are some who can not maintain but, from my observations, they are actually the minority. Most of the users chip with a small addiction and are pretty normal people. They just do not tell you because, well, social stigma prevents it.
You may actually be surprised at who uses what for recreational drugs. I could name names and whatnot but that would be just silly. If you are a user who is observant then you can also generally tell who is also a user. Then they often speak in what I can only refer to as "thieves cant" except they are not really stealing anything, normally.
I thought the science was settled and that MSG was not, in fact, harmful? I am pretty sure I followed a link on this (during the last damned diet topic even) which happily confirmed that MSG was safe though they did not advocate drinking it by the gallon. Now, science is never settled - really. Even gravity is not settled. But, yeah... I thought we'd pretty much decided that we should be putting MSG in baby bottles for toddler consumption?
I, uh, don't get out as much as people seem to think I do. I am kind of sheltered, really. I do not even generally cook my own food though I grow, harvest, hunt, and fish for it. I have a neighbor that I pay to clean my house and she cooks my food and does my shopping for me as well. I seldom cook unless I have a gathering of friends, family, and neighbors. I have a strange mental illness (I think, maybe) where once I have made the food I no longer want to eat it. Even quick stuff, like a bowl of cereal...
Then again, and I know this may be silly sounding, I really do not like food that much which is odd given that I hunt, fish, and grow a bunch. I just prefer that food - I do not really like it. Even my pork and beef come from a local farmer and I can butcher it myself as I now have the equipment and have been taught how to use it. Strangely, I stay the same weight and am a healthy weight.
I kind of wish I could just take a pill a few times a day and be done with it.
I prefer my water mixed with something - like coffee, sugar, and creamer. It is much better that way. Though I do drink an absurd amount of water in the summer (or Gatorade) the reality is that I do not really like it. I have some great water too. I am in the land of Poland Springs (which is just tap water from Poland or a few other places where they've been dumb enough to let Nestle run off with their water) and have a spring on my land (and an artesian well). I am told I have great water. I hate water. I drink it because it is healthy and does a good job keeping me hydrated.
might as well as be feeding our kids vodka instead of oreos
WOOHOO! I started a trend and it is catching on?!?
Really, though... I my children are mostly sane and above average. *nods* One already has her degree and the other is, well, doing something with his life. He does, sometimes, attend college classes. He has... Umm... Well, will you accept, "He has a GPA?" He does have one. I do not know it but he has one. He is in Peru, currently, and mostly drinking and sexing pretty women (or men, I suppose, but he seems to like the ladies). He will return to his studies in the fall. Maybe...
I also recommend heroin, or any opiate, as it will slow your entire system down. However, for a more rapid result, I suggest crack or meth. You so not generally see too many skinny junkies or speed heads.
You might want to do some reading on DDT. There is a reason the WHO has now changed to advocating its use. The studies were intentionally based on false data and fabricated data. DDT is *reasonably* safe when compared with what it accomplishes. Wikipedia is a good start.
There are few things that qualify as an excellent tomato. The cherry tomatoes are edible. Everything else needs to be squished into sauce or peeled and stewed to even be palatable. Slicing a tomato makes it bad. Failure to cook a tomato makes it horrific. Smash them into sauce and they are nommy. Blend a few varieties together and smash those. I grow some "tasty" tomatoes, I am told. I really do not care for them unless they are stewed or smashed.
Except he plainly admitted that he knew about it and did it intentionally and that his motive was to not pay for the seed by claiming it was justified because he grew the crops that he harvested for seed. We can argue the merits of IP, but let's be honest about it.
If you look at Wikipedia's Monsanto page you will see that they make no mention of any farmer ever being sued for such a thing. We can reasonably conclude that they would mention that. I have seen a number of other sites that go into this. I was not sure what to believe so I investigated. Monsanto may be evil dicks, I do not know, but they are not doing that whole sue farmers into oblivion thing - yet.
No. What makes you think I am adverse to helping them? I am kind of fond of both of them. Fidel did what needed to be done and is hardly "bad" when compared to most every other nation on the planet.
I have (had, really) a lady friend who was fairly young and lived in a tiny place called Cann River. We met online and I, being a pervert, went to Australia to meet them in person. I stayed for a couple of weeks the first time and then for about a month the second time and all was well and good. Anyhow, not long after I left, she was on her way to work at a coffee shop/cafe type of deal and was walking there when she was attacked and suffered some real damage from a magpie.
I do not really have a point, I seldom do, but I did find it amusing that you mention it. We did not end up wed and live happily ever after feeding our babies to dingos. In fact, I never saw her again though I did return to Australia another time but that was for entirely different reasons.
Personally, I can not fathom having that many tabs open. I can think of no case where that would help me. Also, I am an Opera user almost exclusively. I have been since it was pay-ware. I did use and donated (I seem to recall they put my name in a newspaper but I forget which one) Firefox but they have gone downhill. Now, when I install Linux, I use Firefox like I would use IE. I use it just long enough to download another browser. I could just grab one out of the repo but I really prefer my Opera and I have yet to find one with the current Opera builds in them.
My point is that they were socialists - which they are seemingly emphatically denying. They did not remain socialists - in fact they trended towards fascism. They were socialists. This does not mean socialism is bad, by any stretch of the imagination, it means that they were bad and did not remain socialists. Additionally, there was more to the NSDAP than Hitler and they were elected to seats before Hitler's rise to power. Again, this is not a slight against socialism - it is just what was.
When I last went to Cuba (about two years ago) I was surprised at the number of compute devices. There is an underground sneakernet as well - they take a flashdrive and share its content with all sorts of people. I believe they were selling or renting the content or the device. I am not sure where they got the content but I know some hotels and some universities have internet access.
My hotel did not have internet and my cell phone did not do a damned thing except eat battery power and play what content I had thought to save. I was told that I would have limited internet access and cell use. I had set up my home to use as a VPN, cheating and using VNC to do it, but that was to no avail. I went via Canada because I am a Canadian citizen (I am Micmac, partially). It was my third trip there.
I am also an American citizen and, frankly, I feel we need to back the hell off and let Cuba be Cuba. There is no need to have an embargo against them. If anything we should be sending them fucking aid. I spent every available dollar that I could there and I may have dropped additional currency in my hotel room or at bars. Oops... (I forget how much it was but you're limited in how much you can spend there.)
Indeed he was. That does not negate my point which is that they were, indeed, socialists. They trended fascist over time but started out as authoritarian socialists. This does not negate socialism or anything - any more than a black person who commits a crime does not mean all blacks are criminals. It also does not mean that they remained socialists once they had consolidated power. It only means that they were, indeed, socialists.
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I thought the Saudis did away with slavery back when JFK gave them the evil eye? Are women technically property or is that just an exaggeration? I have not been to Saudi Arabia. I do not think they will even let me in the country as a tourist or the likes. I am pretty sure I can not go to Mecca at least. I had thought that I was not even allowed on their soil unless I was a Muslim. Anyhow, are they really owned (as in property) still? I understand they have fewer rights but that does not make them slaves. Is slaves hyperbole or?
I am not sure if this helps:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-...
If you look at Microsoft's infrastructure and are honest about it - they keep that locked down pretty well and are surely subject to a whole bunch of attacks in myriad vectors. Yet you seldom hear about anything much happening at their end of things - the update servers never get hacked (I'd probably aim at those, personally), the ISOs never get corrupted on MSDN, nobody steals personal information, and nobody logs in and steals bunches of unknown MSDN or Technet keys.
They do have a bunch of Linux facing servers but, really, they seem to mostly rely on their own products. Yet they seem to be pretty damned secure to an outsider. I have some experience in Redmond (I was an MVP for years and years) but not even we heard about a whole lot - not even really major leaks. The source code for 2k was partially available (fully?) at one point. Hell, you can join the Shared Source Initiative and access Windows' source files yourself. Yet, those never seem to make it into the wild.
I am a member of a number of "underground" communities where exploits, kits, 0-days, source files, decompilers, etc are all for sale for a few bucks (even an ID is available at some of them). I never see anything targeted at Microsoft themselves. I mean, never... Someone would act and know if such were available. Microsoft is probably the largest target in the world - even a larger target then my own government. Yet, there they sit and they sit behind and using their own software.
Sure, they have expertise but, still, it seems really odd that they have gone this long with no real loss of valuable data or, at least, infrequent lost data. I am sure they have scads of information like credit card transactions and personal details. Yet, they never end up with that being hacked and online in a database somewhere or available as a torrent.
Wait, what? You can (notice I did not say had to) purchase content from Ubuntu for downloading via apt? That is, umm... Different? I'd expect something like that at RedHat but, Ubunto? How odd... When did they start this?
Note: I do not use Ubunto but I do use a fork that still uses plenty of Ubunto packages. I use Linux for Retards (Mint - cinnamon) and I like it because I do not have to screw with much to get it working. It has some bugs... I can deal with that. I can not set my wallpaper on this specific computer but I seldom see my wallpaper anyhow. I also can not add crap to the system tray - I was not really needing that anyhow.
But, seriously... That is kind of cheesy to be offering it through apt. It is not "wrong," I suppose. I would not call it right, either. I would call it cheesy. I am not sure how I would change it, mind you, but I am sure I'd not advocate it.
That might actually work in the state that I currently reside in. Maine has an Implied Merchantability Act that actually warranties things for a "reasonable length of time." This exceeds any manufacturer's warranties. Not many people know about it and fewer act on it. I know of no instance where this has been tried but, I suspect, it would be a reasonable case and would be heard and judged on its own merits. Few items have a defined implied merchantability length and most are subject to a judge's or jury's interpretation of "reasonable."
The law:
http://legislature.maine.gov/s...
A very VERY good PDF that has a lot more information including citations:
http://www.maine.gov/ag/dynld/... (Again, PDF warning.)
I have lived in a number of states that had such laws but I do not recall anyone I know using one in court. I have linked to the law and PDF in the past and had my money refunded when I got an inferior product that lacked quality. They did not want to refund my payment and it took linking them to the PDF and law to get them to act on it. I have only needed to do so once and it did not go to court.
Folks... This is what happens when you call Marijuana medicine. ;)
Hah!!! I recommended that in another post before I saw this. Those crazy bastards have put diet loss on the list of prescribed uses? That is beautiful! It is also great if you're a truck driver.
Amphetamines. They just work - and you will have plenty of energy to boot! If you are ADHD then you will not get the same effect. I recommend crack (or just snorting it, foil hits work too but Real Men go for IV use) if you have ADHD and want to lose weight without dieting (on purpose) or exercising (with the real motive of exercising). The IV route is the best way to get the most bio availability and is *likely* the safest way to consume your drugs if done properly. Uncooked cocaine is water soluble. If you have to buy it cooked and want to IV it then you can just break it down with a 1:5 ratio of lemon juice and water. Use a 2 micron filter and, remember, you can always put more drugs in but you can not take them out. So, be careful kids.
This post should not be taken seriously. Factual? Yes. Serious? No. If you are going to use be smart about it. If the idiots that spent the time taking out every last air bubble spent that same time on safe injection practices there would be far fewer health complications. You have to inject a lot of air into you, in a short time, to actually be at risk of harm. You are far more likely to get an abscess or blood infection from using the damned needle until the numbers are worn off.
Short answer: Drugs. Long answer: Do not do drugs unless you really want to and have taken the time to educate yourself. They will work - well. You have my personal guarantee.
As someone who is an opiate addict (heroin is weak, screw that) the goal is not to get the first high again - that will never really happen unless you go off it and let your tolerance lower. We are just hoping for a high or just hoping to feel right again. You might get high the first couple of times you do it each day. Many of us wake (woke, in my case - I no longer use IV opiates and am on Suboxone so I will not get high no matter how much I do) up at certain times during the night just to shoot up again. I used to wake up every two or three hours to cram more Fentanyl into my body. Sometimes I would wear a patch (or three) just to ensure I did not need to shoot up or could sleep for a while.
Then again, I was a functioning and successful addict. Although I traveled into the world of Team Junkie I was never truly a part of it - my crimes consisted of consumption and acquisition. Eventually I found that it was easier, cheaper, and safer to go with a decent connect where I would get Fentanyl that had dropped off the delivery truck and had been lawfully destroyed. *cough cough* I had to buy in bulk but it was much cheaper to buy 500 Mylar patches than it was to buy them in groups of ten and it was a much more reliable source. I do not use, other than my Suboxone, today though that may change should I ever get the urge to start anew.
Anyhow, I do not have much of a point except to try to share that we junkies do not usually chase the original high. We know we will never get that. Most of us just get a little high in the morning (then maybe use a lot later in the day) and maintain the rest of the time so as to not get sick. Being dope sick is horrible. There are some who can not maintain but, from my observations, they are actually the minority. Most of the users chip with a small addiction and are pretty normal people. They just do not tell you because, well, social stigma prevents it.
You may actually be surprised at who uses what for recreational drugs. I could name names and whatnot but that would be just silly. If you are a user who is observant then you can also generally tell who is also a user. Then they often speak in what I can only refer to as "thieves cant" except they are not really stealing anything, normally.
I thought the science was settled and that MSG was not, in fact, harmful? I am pretty sure I followed a link on this (during the last damned diet topic even) which happily confirmed that MSG was safe though they did not advocate drinking it by the gallon. Now, science is never settled - really. Even gravity is not settled. But, yeah... I thought we'd pretty much decided that we should be putting MSG in baby bottles for toddler consumption?
I, uh, don't get out as much as people seem to think I do. I am kind of sheltered, really. I do not even generally cook my own food though I grow, harvest, hunt, and fish for it. I have a neighbor that I pay to clean my house and she cooks my food and does my shopping for me as well. I seldom cook unless I have a gathering of friends, family, and neighbors. I have a strange mental illness (I think, maybe) where once I have made the food I no longer want to eat it. Even quick stuff, like a bowl of cereal...
Then again, and I know this may be silly sounding, I really do not like food that much which is odd given that I hunt, fish, and grow a bunch. I just prefer that food - I do not really like it. Even my pork and beef come from a local farmer and I can butcher it myself as I now have the equipment and have been taught how to use it. Strangely, I stay the same weight and am a healthy weight.
I kind of wish I could just take a pill a few times a day and be done with it.
I prefer my water mixed with something - like coffee, sugar, and creamer. It is much better that way. Though I do drink an absurd amount of water in the summer (or Gatorade) the reality is that I do not really like it. I have some great water too. I am in the land of Poland Springs (which is just tap water from Poland or a few other places where they've been dumb enough to let Nestle run off with their water) and have a spring on my land (and an artesian well). I am told I have great water. I hate water. I drink it because it is healthy and does a good job keeping me hydrated.
might as well as be feeding our kids vodka instead of oreos
WOOHOO! I started a trend and it is catching on?!?
Really, though... I my children are mostly sane and above average. *nods* One already has her degree and the other is, well, doing something with his life. He does, sometimes, attend college classes. He has... Umm... Well, will you accept, "He has a GPA?" He does have one. I do not know it but he has one. He is in Peru, currently, and mostly drinking and sexing pretty women (or men, I suppose, but he seems to like the ladies). He will return to his studies in the fall. Maybe...
Err... Fat. Not skinny. Unfortunately, I can not blame drugs.
I also recommend heroin, or any opiate, as it will slow your entire system down. However, for a more rapid result, I suggest crack or meth. You so not generally see too many skinny junkies or speed heads.
You might want to do some reading on DDT. There is a reason the WHO has now changed to advocating its use. The studies were intentionally based on false data and fabricated data. DDT is *reasonably* safe when compared with what it accomplishes. Wikipedia is a good start.
There are few things that qualify as an excellent tomato. The cherry tomatoes are edible. Everything else needs to be squished into sauce or peeled and stewed to even be palatable. Slicing a tomato makes it bad. Failure to cook a tomato makes it horrific. Smash them into sauce and they are nommy. Blend a few varieties together and smash those. I grow some "tasty" tomatoes, I am told. I really do not care for them unless they are stewed or smashed.
Except he plainly admitted that he knew about it and did it intentionally and that his motive was to not pay for the seed by claiming it was justified because he grew the crops that he harvested for seed. We can argue the merits of IP, but let's be honest about it.
If you look at Wikipedia's Monsanto page you will see that they make no mention of any farmer ever being sued for such a thing. We can reasonably conclude that they would mention that. I have seen a number of other sites that go into this. I was not sure what to believe so I investigated. Monsanto may be evil dicks, I do not know, but they are not doing that whole sue farmers into oblivion thing - yet.
No. What makes you think I am adverse to helping them? I am kind of fond of both of them. Fidel did what needed to be done and is hardly "bad" when compared to most every other nation on the planet.
I have (had, really) a lady friend who was fairly young and lived in a tiny place called Cann River. We met online and I, being a pervert, went to Australia to meet them in person. I stayed for a couple of weeks the first time and then for about a month the second time and all was well and good. Anyhow, not long after I left, she was on her way to work at a coffee shop/cafe type of deal and was walking there when she was attacked and suffered some real damage from a magpie.
I do not really have a point, I seldom do, but I did find it amusing that you mention it. We did not end up wed and live happily ever after feeding our babies to dingos. In fact, I never saw her again though I did return to Australia another time but that was for entirely different reasons.
Personally, I can not fathom having that many tabs open. I can think of no case where that would help me. Also, I am an Opera user almost exclusively. I have been since it was pay-ware. I did use and donated (I seem to recall they put my name in a newspaper but I forget which one) Firefox but they have gone downhill. Now, when I install Linux, I use Firefox like I would use IE. I use it just long enough to download another browser. I could just grab one out of the repo but I really prefer my Opera and I have yet to find one with the current Opera builds in them.
My point is that they were socialists - which they are seemingly emphatically denying. They did not remain socialists - in fact they trended towards fascism. They were socialists. This does not mean socialism is bad, by any stretch of the imagination, it means that they were bad and did not remain socialists. Additionally, there was more to the NSDAP than Hitler and they were elected to seats before Hitler's rise to power. Again, this is not a slight against socialism - it is just what was.
No, it involves the Bing toolbar and specifically opting in to allow usage tracking.
When I last went to Cuba (about two years ago) I was surprised at the number of compute devices. There is an underground sneakernet as well - they take a flashdrive and share its content with all sorts of people. I believe they were selling or renting the content or the device. I am not sure where they got the content but I know some hotels and some universities have internet access.
My hotel did not have internet and my cell phone did not do a damned thing except eat battery power and play what content I had thought to save. I was told that I would have limited internet access and cell use. I had set up my home to use as a VPN, cheating and using VNC to do it, but that was to no avail. I went via Canada because I am a Canadian citizen (I am Micmac, partially). It was my third trip there.
I am also an American citizen and, frankly, I feel we need to back the hell off and let Cuba be Cuba. There is no need to have an embargo against them. If anything we should be sending them fucking aid. I spent every available dollar that I could there and I may have dropped additional currency in my hotel room or at bars. Oops... (I forget how much it was but you're limited in how much you can spend there.)
Indeed he was. That does not negate my point which is that they were, indeed, socialists. They trended fascist over time but started out as authoritarian socialists. This does not negate socialism or anything - any more than a black person who commits a crime does not mean all blacks are criminals. It also does not mean that they remained socialists once they had consolidated power. It only means that they were, indeed, socialists.