It is okay - if I am going to be wrong I am going to go all the way and be wrong. I am not scared. I am sticking with affect - and I will type it again the next time I have a chance. I am not even afraid to be wrong twice.
Nope, if I am wrong I am going to be wrong all the way. This is surely not my first time being wrong - it will not be my last. So, nope, I am sticking with it. I think affect works there just fine.
Affect is a verb. Affect change. It is right at the top of your link. I must admit that I stopped there just because I had already read the definition and noticed it was a verb. I stand by my usage, bugger it.
I am skeptical and would like further evidence but, given the nature of the beast, I am not sure what evidence will be offered and I am not entirely sure what evidence I would accept in order to be fully satisfied with the honesty of the answer.
Hmm... I think you may be mistaken. I am near positive that you are. You affect change and change has an effect. At least that is my understanding. I have been speaking and typing the language for years but I suppose I could be mistaken. In this case I am pretty sure that I am not.
I do not think you are as close to funny as you seem to think you are. I am also not sure how that would make you almost funny. Is that anything like almost pregnant?
I see where you are coming from and, I think, I see where you are going. I understand, I think, and do not intend to be malicious so bear with me if you will.
Citation needed on the truckloads of money part. They were likely paid and it was likely a paltry sum compared to your envisioned truckloads.
"...may be[sic] reduces..." It may increase as well. Using weasel words is not an effective statement. You are correct in that maybe the spying reduces. That is a potential outcome. It seems unlikely to me but we can hope. I appreciate your optimism but I think your hoped-for outcome may take a while longer yet. I think that Snowden got the ball rolling but it is up to us to keep up the momentum until we get what we want or a reasonable compromise.
I know of nobody who has changed their practices - those who are using encryption were using it before (as an example). Literally, I know of angry folks but not one of them has changed their practices to better secure their privacy. Realistically, how can they? There is nothing they can not scrape and gather data from - unless you go through some very extreme measures. So, can they? Yes but to what effect? How many people do you know, and be honest with yourself and us, who have actually made changes to their habits due to this and have stuck with those changes ever since they made them?
As I have stated, I think Snowden is a patriot of the highest degree. I do not think his release of information is enough to affect much change - I think we need to keep being vocal and keep insisting on a more open and law abiding government. Think of it like this, there were many heroes in WWII but not a single one of them actually won the war. We need to keep the motivation high and continue to apply pressure or they will continue the behavior.
I think spying is not about lying but is about judicious use of the truth. Knowing when to lie and when to tell the truth (or a portion of it) is what, I think, would make a good agent. I am sure that you can come up with a number of situations in your head so I needn't type a novella explaining when it would be a good time for a secret agent to tell the truth.
I disagree, entirely, with everything you said but I am not sure why you are modded troll. I believe you legitimately believe what you state to be true, and I see the logic behind your view - but I disagree with your conclusions and your initial starting point. I want privacy, I will accept the lost security. I accept that people, maybe even my friends and family, may die. It is a rough world and shit happens. We, my friends and family, do not sit and worry about the potential outcomes from insecurity. We do, however, all pretty much agree that we do not want our details/data being harvested and warehoused by people who have no business with that data.
I will not sit silent while my rights are eroded to make you sleep better. I will protest and, eventually, I will leave. I am not a person you want to leave. I imagine you think that Capital Gains taxes are low. Rest assured that I paid more in taxes last year than you have paid in the last five - coupled with property taxes it may be greater than your ten year contribution. Additionally, I am vocal *and* running for the State Senate. I am actually on your side. You do not want me to leave.
See, I do not see the two as mutually exclusive. It is possible to have privacy AND security. We already have really good laws that allow this. What we are missing is a warrant, preferably in an open court though I think it is acceptable to use John Doe as the plaintiff's name. When we see something intrinsically wrong with an open and honest government then we are going to get a dishonest and closed government. When we make knee-jerk reactionary legislation we are going to get unforeseen outcomes.
We have committed some atrocities in the name of freedom as of late. When I say "we" I do mean you and I. This is not a 'royal we' or the likes. We are the government, the government is our people. We have done some horrific things but it is not too late for reparations and it is not too late for rehabilitation. I do not mean the cliché when I say this country needs an intervention. The last time we had an intervention it was some crazy bastards who smashed airplanes into people. Let us hope we can have an intervention before it reaches that point again.
We can do both of these things. We can monitor the bad guys without listening to Grandma's conversation with Aunt Betty about how it is a shame that her great-grandson will not be producing heirs because he caught the gay when he went off to that liberal college. We can have privacy while still giving up some information when we want to get on a plane - like an ID and a reasonable check for weapons. What we do not need is invasive searches for security theater or having to censor ourselves so the TLA listening in to our calls/conversations with friends do not witness our displeasure with the government. We do not need a gestapo nor do we need to insist the government can know nothing about us. Moderation is not the enemy and commonsense is not extinct.
Yet, even if this story is true and this is a negative outcome, I still feel that Snowden was a patriot of the highest order. One does not need to be supportive of the current regime to be a patriot, in fact the reverse is the seeming greatest creator of patriots. This trend began with our founding fathers, dissent is a good thing at times.
Chesty Puller was full of nifty sayings but he was kind of an ass and put his men in jeopardy too easily and when it was not needed. See, for instance, well... Start with Chosin. I spent eight years as a Marine so I am partial to him but, and it is painful, I must admit he was pretty much an asshole.
I am now waiting to find out that we humans are warming the galaxy and going to be the ruin of it all. (Not that I do not believe the Earth is warming but that I'd not be surprised if someone decided that this, too, was true.)
All tablets are full blown computers. I have an old K6 II that runs a firewall here - not because I have to but because it can (and I am too lazy to change it).
We cannot be bothered to read the article. Now you want us to read the post before moderating it? Surely you ask too much!
I do not generally moderate and, even with posting and an excellent karma, the system seems to have figured that out as I do not seem to get mod points much any more. I am not one to judge others very much so moderating seems a bit uncomfortable to me.
I will check it out but, alas, it is tough for me. I did take a single year of French in school but that was Parisian French. The French that I sometimes use, in reality, is Canadian French. The two are very different. It is a bit like Mexican and Spanish. I speak Mexican Spanish quite fluently but I have to slow down and hope for the best when I visit Spain. However, the differences between Spain and Mexico are much smaller than the differences between Canada and France. That is, of course, based on my observations. I am not a linguist so I may be mistaken but that is how it seemed to me. It may also be that I took Latin and that my Spanish is much better than my French.
How curious... I would think that folks would want to avoid self-referencing with Hitler and the Nazi party. I am aware that they are not the same thing but it still seems highly unusual. I am not sure I would affiliate with any Nazi party, regardless of capitalization/spelling, or with Hitler no matter how much I agreed with that party's platform. In fact, I dare say that I would remain ignorant (if I could) and would never look into that platform because, frankly, I would not want to be associated with them due to the name alone.
Additionally, I am quite aware of how the state of Israel got its start. They did not have much of a choice but to be nationalistic at the time. At that time it was a perfectly sane and logical choice.
As for the Grecian military issues with the USSR and Nazi Germany, yeah that sucked. The bit with the Partisans, after the war, was also bad and it is sad that Britain dropped the ball on that one. Britain made a lot of promises during the war, it failed to keep many of them in a timely manner (or at all). One is forced to wonder if they had any intention of upholding the promises in the first place.
Either way, Greece is a nice place and is full of nice people. There are obvious exceptions. I do not judge based on the exceptions and have enjoyed my three visits - one of which was extended and I had no trouble getting permission to stay for six months. I seem to recall that I needed a special tourist visa to stay that long (longer than 30 days as I recall) but it was painless to get.
I no longer drink so I will not be able to share in the Ouzo but it is on my agenda to visit again even if you have a Nazi party. I needn't agree with your politics but I certainly should respect the right to affiliate yourself as you choose. Though I did serve in the military I am not very nationalistic and, actually, have dual citizenship as I am part Native-American (First Persons) and have Canadian citizenship as well as my US citizenship. I do not agree with Canadian politics nor do I vote there - I spend most of my time here and it would be unreasonable for me to try to assert my political views on a people where I am, for the most part, more a guest as, realistically, I am a citizen in name only.
This post should probably be entitled, 'The Great Digression.' I can easily take a karma hit so the chance to understand and communicate needn't be passed up or left to speculation.
Wouldn't it make more sense to make discrimination based on criminal history illegal? That could be fleshed out to include a pass for things directly to do with the job or housing or similar. It could have a time limit where crimes committed x-number of years ago are fine to discriminate against until they pass a certain distance in time where such is illegal. As an example, felonies could have a seven year wait and misdemeanors can have a three year wait. After those time periods have passed they would no longer be a consideration for housing, employment, government assistance, etc...
Highly improbable but I can see the logic behind your postulating (I think). I would be willing to bet that your proposal does not happen. I will give you 2:1 odds and put the money in escrow but make it worth my while and do a $1000 USD minimum. I will use any reputable escrow company you choose. One additional stipulation is that my heirs must be allowed to collect as I am aging. The date for completion will be ten years from today - UTC. You can attempt to further define your statement until the bet is made, it is not a matter of ego but a chance to make some money so I will allow small amendments to your proposal.
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It is okay - if I am going to be wrong I am going to go all the way and be wrong. I am not scared. I am sticking with affect - and I will type it again the next time I have a chance. I am not even afraid to be wrong twice.
Nope, if I am wrong I am going to be wrong all the way. This is surely not my first time being wrong - it will not be my last. So, nope, I am sticking with it. I think affect works there just fine.
Affect is a verb. Affect change. It is right at the top of your link. I must admit that I stopped there just because I had already read the definition and noticed it was a verb. I stand by my usage, bugger it.
I am skeptical and would like further evidence but, given the nature of the beast, I am not sure what evidence will be offered and I am not entirely sure what evidence I would accept in order to be fully satisfied with the honesty of the answer.
Affect: Act physically on; have an effect on
Next question?
Hmm... I think you may be mistaken. I am near positive that you are. You affect change and change has an effect. At least that is my understanding. I have been speaking and typing the language for years but I suppose I could be mistaken. In this case I am pretty sure that I am not.
Snowden provided the impetus. It is up to us to affect change.
I do not think you are as close to funny as you seem to think you are. I am also not sure how that would make you almost funny. Is that anything like almost pregnant?
I see where you are coming from and, I think, I see where you are going. I understand, I think, and do not intend to be malicious so bear with me if you will.
Citation needed on the truckloads of money part. They were likely paid and it was likely a paltry sum compared to your envisioned truckloads.
"...may be[sic] reduces..." It may increase as well. Using weasel words is not an effective statement. You are correct in that maybe the spying reduces. That is a potential outcome. It seems unlikely to me but we can hope. I appreciate your optimism but I think your hoped-for outcome may take a while longer yet. I think that Snowden got the ball rolling but it is up to us to keep up the momentum until we get what we want or a reasonable compromise.
I know of nobody who has changed their practices - those who are using encryption were using it before (as an example). Literally, I know of angry folks but not one of them has changed their practices to better secure their privacy. Realistically, how can they? There is nothing they can not scrape and gather data from - unless you go through some very extreme measures. So, can they? Yes but to what effect? How many people do you know, and be honest with yourself and us, who have actually made changes to their habits due to this and have stuck with those changes ever since they made them?
As I have stated, I think Snowden is a patriot of the highest degree. I do not think his release of information is enough to affect much change - I think we need to keep being vocal and keep insisting on a more open and law abiding government. Think of it like this, there were many heroes in WWII but not a single one of them actually won the war. We need to keep the motivation high and continue to apply pressure or they will continue the behavior.
I think spying is not about lying but is about judicious use of the truth. Knowing when to lie and when to tell the truth (or a portion of it) is what, I think, would make a good agent. I am sure that you can come up with a number of situations in your head so I needn't type a novella explaining when it would be a good time for a secret agent to tell the truth.
I disagree, entirely, with everything you said but I am not sure why you are modded troll. I believe you legitimately believe what you state to be true, and I see the logic behind your view - but I disagree with your conclusions and your initial starting point. I want privacy, I will accept the lost security. I accept that people, maybe even my friends and family, may die. It is a rough world and shit happens. We, my friends and family, do not sit and worry about the potential outcomes from insecurity. We do, however, all pretty much agree that we do not want our details/data being harvested and warehoused by people who have no business with that data.
I will not sit silent while my rights are eroded to make you sleep better. I will protest and, eventually, I will leave. I am not a person you want to leave. I imagine you think that Capital Gains taxes are low. Rest assured that I paid more in taxes last year than you have paid in the last five - coupled with property taxes it may be greater than your ten year contribution. Additionally, I am vocal *and* running for the State Senate. I am actually on your side. You do not want me to leave.
See, I do not see the two as mutually exclusive. It is possible to have privacy AND security. We already have really good laws that allow this. What we are missing is a warrant, preferably in an open court though I think it is acceptable to use John Doe as the plaintiff's name. When we see something intrinsically wrong with an open and honest government then we are going to get a dishonest and closed government. When we make knee-jerk reactionary legislation we are going to get unforeseen outcomes.
We have committed some atrocities in the name of freedom as of late. When I say "we" I do mean you and I. This is not a 'royal we' or the likes. We are the government, the government is our people. We have done some horrific things but it is not too late for reparations and it is not too late for rehabilitation. I do not mean the cliché when I say this country needs an intervention. The last time we had an intervention it was some crazy bastards who smashed airplanes into people. Let us hope we can have an intervention before it reaches that point again.
We can do both of these things. We can monitor the bad guys without listening to Grandma's conversation with Aunt Betty about how it is a shame that her great-grandson will not be producing heirs because he caught the gay when he went off to that liberal college. We can have privacy while still giving up some information when we want to get on a plane - like an ID and a reasonable check for weapons. What we do not need is invasive searches for security theater or having to censor ourselves so the TLA listening in to our calls/conversations with friends do not witness our displeasure with the government. We do not need a gestapo nor do we need to insist the government can know nothing about us. Moderation is not the enemy and commonsense is not extinct.
Yet, even if this story is true and this is a negative outcome, I still feel that Snowden was a patriot of the highest order. One does not need to be supportive of the current regime to be a patriot, in fact the reverse is the seeming greatest creator of patriots. This trend began with our founding fathers, dissent is a good thing at times.
Chesty Puller was full of nifty sayings but he was kind of an ass and put his men in jeopardy too easily and when it was not needed. See, for instance, well... Start with Chosin. I spent eight years as a Marine so I am partial to him but, and it is painful, I must admit he was pretty much an asshole.
I am now waiting to find out that we humans are warming the galaxy and going to be the ruin of it all. (Not that I do not believe the Earth is warming but that I'd not be surprised if someone decided that this, too, was true.)
Just hit the ESC key and it brings you right back to where you were - umm... Cursor not included. Bah, screw it. Just use the mouse.
All tablets are full blown computers. I have an old K6 II that runs a firewall here - not because I have to but because it can (and I am too lazy to change it).
Yeah, it is not like it is rocket surgery.
Nah, I am rooting for CA to go dry - I want to see Tank Girl live.
We cannot be bothered to read the article. Now you want us to read the post before moderating it? Surely you ask too much!
I do not generally moderate and, even with posting and an excellent karma, the system seems to have figured that out as I do not seem to get mod points much any more. I am not one to judge others very much so moderating seems a bit uncomfortable to me.
I will check it out but, alas, it is tough for me. I did take a single year of French in school but that was Parisian French. The French that I sometimes use, in reality, is Canadian French. The two are very different. It is a bit like Mexican and Spanish. I speak Mexican Spanish quite fluently but I have to slow down and hope for the best when I visit Spain. However, the differences between Spain and Mexico are much smaller than the differences between Canada and France. That is, of course, based on my observations. I am not a linguist so I may be mistaken but that is how it seemed to me. It may also be that I took Latin and that my Spanish is much better than my French.
How curious... I would think that folks would want to avoid self-referencing with Hitler and the Nazi party. I am aware that they are not the same thing but it still seems highly unusual. I am not sure I would affiliate with any Nazi party, regardless of capitalization/spelling, or with Hitler no matter how much I agreed with that party's platform. In fact, I dare say that I would remain ignorant (if I could) and would never look into that platform because, frankly, I would not want to be associated with them due to the name alone.
Additionally, I am quite aware of how the state of Israel got its start. They did not have much of a choice but to be nationalistic at the time. At that time it was a perfectly sane and logical choice.
As for the Grecian military issues with the USSR and Nazi Germany, yeah that sucked. The bit with the Partisans, after the war, was also bad and it is sad that Britain dropped the ball on that one. Britain made a lot of promises during the war, it failed to keep many of them in a timely manner (or at all). One is forced to wonder if they had any intention of upholding the promises in the first place.
Either way, Greece is a nice place and is full of nice people. There are obvious exceptions. I do not judge based on the exceptions and have enjoyed my three visits - one of which was extended and I had no trouble getting permission to stay for six months. I seem to recall that I needed a special tourist visa to stay that long (longer than 30 days as I recall) but it was painless to get.
I no longer drink so I will not be able to share in the Ouzo but it is on my agenda to visit again even if you have a Nazi party. I needn't agree with your politics but I certainly should respect the right to affiliate yourself as you choose. Though I did serve in the military I am not very nationalistic and, actually, have dual citizenship as I am part Native-American (First Persons) and have Canadian citizenship as well as my US citizenship. I do not agree with Canadian politics nor do I vote there - I spend most of my time here and it would be unreasonable for me to try to assert my political views on a people where I am, for the most part, more a guest as, realistically, I am a citizen in name only.
This post should probably be entitled, 'The Great Digression.' I can easily take a karma hit so the chance to understand and communicate needn't be passed up or left to speculation.
That they were processing through US banks on US soil...
How convenient that you skipped that part. I will assume you were not aware of it.
Wouldn't it make more sense to make discrimination based on criminal history illegal? That could be fleshed out to include a pass for things directly to do with the job or housing or similar. It could have a time limit where crimes committed x-number of years ago are fine to discriminate against until they pass a certain distance in time where such is illegal. As an example, felonies could have a seven year wait and misdemeanors can have a three year wait. After those time periods have passed they would no longer be a consideration for housing, employment, government assistance, etc...
Highly improbable but I can see the logic behind your postulating (I think). I would be willing to bet that your proposal does not happen. I will give you 2:1 odds and put the money in escrow but make it worth my while and do a $1000 USD minimum. I will use any reputable escrow company you choose. One additional stipulation is that my heirs must be allowed to collect as I am aging. The date for completion will be ten years from today - UTC. You can attempt to further define your statement until the bet is made, it is not a matter of ego but a chance to make some money so I will allow small amendments to your proposal.
Cannot be or should not be? CFI. US laws regarding encryption.