>>Composting business Well.. if we are talking about in the city/suburbs where houses are close then I would question how anybody has enough room for a viable composting business in their backyard. If we are talking in the country/farm land then what's the problem? That's exactly where a composting business belongs!
And yet.. we do see people going after their neighbors in court from time to time trying to keep them from using their yards as they wish even in farm land. I suppose a green healthy corn field in August can be pretty but as if the site of miles of 1 foot tall yellow stumps and fallen stalks are pretty the rest of the year! Like there is really an asthetic to preserve!
>>Dance club That one seems to be at least approacing probability. I guess someone has probably tried to do that somewhere. Still though.. why would someone start a dance club in a house? How big of a dance floor will fit in my neighbor's livingroom? I don't know about where you live but there are many many empty industrial buildings in my city that would be far more useful for that purpose AND cheaper to buy/rent than an urban home.
>>Brush fire example yup. Bad things happen sometimes.
My point wasn't that there is no possible benefit to regulating what peope do on their own property. It was that people suck, that given the chance to form a neighborhood association, petition a town governement, etc...to get laws which regulate what their neighbors do they will. They will do it to a point where the harm outweighs the good and so it is better just to leave people alone. I'm not saying that it is an ideal solution. (for example, brush fires will happen). I'm only saying that it is better than the alternative.
"... i'd rather not risk a significant investment like a house..."
That's exactly the problem! Yah, I get it. Houses cost a lot of money. You don't want to lose it. Sure... But it's also a home! It's where you spend your life before you die. If you can't do the things you want then what dol you live for? These days everyone sees there house as an investment rather than a place to live life. I get it. I own a duplex. It's twice the house I could afford myself and after the income I get renting out the other side I pay less than half as much as I would to live in a single. Someday it will be paid off and the rental will be mostly profit. I hope for it to be a nice suplemental income to help when I am old and retire.
I also have a ham radio antenna, something which most urban neighborhoods these days don't allow. I had our driveway widened on both sides leaving very little front yard. I think it looks ok, not great but ok. At least one neighbor HATED it. (She moved, Yay!!) With 8 cars and 7 drivers having a normal driveway was WAY too much of a pain in the ass. In the summer we put up a trampoline for my daughter. The safety net is visible from the road. I bet an HOA would have a field day with that one. And yet.. the last time our rental side was vacant all we did is placed a sign by the road and had it filled in less than 24 hours. If I am to believe Zillow.com our property value is up!
These days pretty much everything people might spend their time doing, except for eating, watching tv and surfing the net is in decline. People are fat and well... boring. The last thing we need are more rules limiting or even just making it less convenient for people to get up and do something. And yet.. more and more neighborhoods are being built or re-built as HOAs. Townships are getting more and more active in policing people's back yards.
So, yah, I would prefer throw the whole system away than let it get any worse.
Aparently not. They are taking the RIAA/MPAA aproach and attempting to get their part of the money through litigation instead of changing with the times.
"I hope these things are only ever launched into orbits low enough that atmospheric drag kills them after a year or so."
My understanding is these sorts of things are usually launched in orbits that give them lifetimes measured in days, maybe weeks. They are up there nowhere near a year and definitely do not become part of the long term space junk problem.
Actually, where I grew up it used to be pretty common for people to burn their trash in rusty old barels in their backyards. Some of the nicer neighbors would at least throw a screen over the top to get the bigger embers but not always. I never saw a yard fire. Smoke wasn't too bad, you just didn't play along the fence on the side where something was burning.
That other stuff sounds pretty rediculous. Animal cruelty laws will take care of your dog fighting example. The rest.. well.. I think i'll press my luck. I'm pretty confident that none of my neighbors will develop an interest in skunk farming.
But.. at least I learned a little psychology. I know now what boring little busybodies dream about at night. Maybe if their neighbors would allow them to have a hobby their minds would get a bit more excercise in the day and they might sleep better at night.
More likely crazy ass kid meets opposite sex crazy ass child of other crazy ass parents at their crazy ass clubhouse and their crazy ass teachings lead them to create a family of a dozen or more crazy ass grandkids, also unvaxinated.
People suck. They enjoy controling one another. They fear and/or or are repulsed by anything they don't understand.
Too many people find whatever their neighbor happens to like which they do not ugly. Given enough neighbors and the opportunity to control one another be it through zoning law happy city government or a local HOA there are always neighbors who will push to ban anything. Maybe it's an antenna, a basketball hoop, a boat or a vegetable garden. Give people the opportunity to control their neighbors and they will ensure a whole society of boring little houses surrounded by nothing but uniform green grass. Live that way for a couple of generations and you get boring little people to fill those houses.
You are right, people's yards are not islands unto themselves however there is a careful ballance to be made. Few people are capable of striking such a balance, it's better just to pretend our yards are islands and tell the busybodies to go fuck themselves.
Maybe, just maybe they might be useful if you can develop WinCE apps for them. No, I wouldn't waste time with anything too complicated. But.. if you are in to building one-off hardware projects and if the devices have any usable sort of IO (maybe a serial port that could be connected to a microcontroller with lots of GPIOs) you might be able to use them as one-off control interfaces for something or other. I wouldn't go any deeper than programming by dragging controls into place, sending commands out the serial port upon events. Anything more complicated isn't worth it, buy something newer. Changing the OS.. if you can find something where someone has already ported Linux to your device specifically with step-by step instructions then sure. You will probably need to use the Wayback Machine. Beyond that.. not worth it.
So then the kids are forced to live in a box until they are old enough to make their own decision to finally get vaccinated.. which they will not do because in that box the only voices they ever heard were their own crazy ass parents?
Better to just force vaccination and solve the problem.
Geesh, so many posts where people are talking about Ford selling more cars because of this or even stating they might consider buying one themselves.
Remember when we chose our vehicles because of their qualities as a vehicle? Remember when every dashboard had standard sized holes for the radio and stock radios where crap that almost everyone replaced?
I'd rather buy a vehicle that drives well and has a nice double-din hole where I can mount a head unit of my choice. I want to buy the car (or truck) based solely on it's abilities as a car or truck and the stereo (more like computer these days) totaly separate based on it's qualities as such.
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Probably started killing one another over religion.
>>Composting business
Well.. if we are talking about in the city/suburbs where houses are close then I would question how anybody has enough room for a viable composting business in their backyard. If we are talking in the country/farm land then what's the problem? That's exactly where a composting business belongs!
And yet.. we do see people going after their neighbors in court from time to time trying to keep them from using their yards as they wish even in farm land. I suppose a green healthy corn field in August can be pretty but as if the site of miles of 1 foot tall yellow stumps and fallen stalks are pretty the rest of the year! Like there is really an asthetic to preserve!
>>Dance club
That one seems to be at least approacing probability. I guess someone has probably tried to do that somewhere. Still though.. why would someone start a dance club in a house? How big of a dance floor will fit in my neighbor's livingroom? I don't know about where you live but there are many many empty industrial buildings in my city that would be far more useful for that purpose AND cheaper to buy/rent than an urban home.
>>Brush fire example
yup. Bad things happen sometimes.
My point wasn't that there is no possible benefit to regulating what peope do on their own property. It was that people suck, that given the chance to form a neighborhood association, petition a town governement, etc.. .to get laws which regulate what their neighbors do they will. They will do it to a point where the harm outweighs the good and so it is better just to leave people alone. I'm not saying that it is an ideal solution. (for example, brush fires will happen). I'm only saying that it is better than the alternative.
"... i'd rather not risk a significant investment like a house..."
That's exactly the problem! Yah, I get it. Houses cost a lot of money. You don't want to lose it. Sure... But it's also a home! It's where you spend your life before you die. If you can't do the things you want then what dol you live for? These days everyone sees there house as an investment rather than a place to live life. I get it. I own a duplex. It's twice the house I could afford myself and after the income I get renting out the other side I pay less than half as much as I would to live in a single. Someday it will be paid off and the rental will be mostly profit. I hope for it to be a nice suplemental income to help when I am old and retire.
I also have a ham radio antenna, something which most urban neighborhoods these days don't allow. I had our driveway widened on both sides leaving very little front yard. I think it looks ok, not great but ok. At least one neighbor HATED it. (She moved, Yay!!) With 8 cars and 7 drivers having a normal driveway was WAY too much of a pain in the ass. In the summer we put up a trampoline for my daughter. The safety net is visible from the road. I bet an HOA would have a field day with that one. And yet.. the last time our rental side was vacant all we did is placed a sign by the road and had it filled in less than 24 hours. If I am to believe Zillow.com our property value is up!
These days pretty much everything people might spend their time doing, except for eating, watching tv and surfing the net is in decline. People are fat and well... boring. The last thing we need are more rules limiting or even just making it less convenient for people to get up and do something. And yet.. more and more neighborhoods are being built or re-built as HOAs. Townships are getting more and more active in policing people's back yards.
So, yah, I would prefer throw the whole system away than let it get any worse.
Yeah, EVERYONE carried guns here. And yet nobody shot back....
Yah, as a white man I can walk around town smoking anything I want and nobody bats an eye...
Aparently not. They are taking the RIAA/MPAA aproach and attempting to get their part of the money through litigation instead of changing with the times.
" when was the last time someone got a felony rap for carpet munching"
When was the last time anybody got a "felony rap" for a state law?
We are all a little dumber for having read that comment.
"The old West,"
Yeah, I'm sure it was exactly as dimestore novels and later hollywood portrayed it...
"schools & movie theaters"
A handful of incedents in a 300+ million population spread over several years hardly makes an event common.
"I hope these things are only ever launched into orbits low enough that atmospheric drag kills them after a year or so."
My understanding is these sorts of things are usually launched in orbits that give them lifetimes measured in days, maybe weeks. They are up there nowhere near a year and definitely do not become part of the long term space junk problem.
-- If it were not war, and anyone gets killed, then it would be *murder*
You mean like drone strikes?
Actually, where I grew up it used to be pretty common for people to burn their trash in rusty old barels in their backyards. Some of the nicer neighbors would at least throw a screen over the top to get the bigger embers but not always. I never saw a yard fire. Smoke wasn't too bad, you just didn't play along the fence on the side where something was burning.
That other stuff sounds pretty rediculous. Animal cruelty laws will take care of your dog fighting example. The rest.. well.. I think i'll press my luck. I'm pretty confident that none of my neighbors will develop an interest in skunk farming.
But.. at least I learned a little psychology. I know now what boring little busybodies dream about at night. Maybe if their neighbors would allow them to have a hobby their minds would get a bit more excercise in the day and they might sleep better at night.
No. He's out in the country. There probably aren't any neighbors around.
More likely crazy ass kid meets opposite sex crazy ass child of other crazy ass parents at their crazy ass clubhouse and their crazy ass teachings lead them to create a family of a dozen or more crazy ass grandkids, also unvaxinated.
"the canuck part should be a clue."
Ah, so it is. I read your comment, not your name.
Stop trying to make it look pretty. Take the old concrete from replacing old sidewalks and just pile it up in the road.
So... you are going to decimate the production which relies on those roads thus causing a recession or even depression that erodes your own tax base.
Yup, your dynasty is going to last a real long time...
Do those windows still open anyway after you mount the security bars?
People suck. They enjoy controling one another. They fear and/or or are repulsed by anything they don't understand.
Too many people find whatever their neighbor happens to like which they do not ugly. Given enough neighbors and the opportunity to control one another be it through zoning law happy city government or a local HOA there are always neighbors who will push to ban anything. Maybe it's an antenna, a basketball hoop, a boat or a vegetable garden. Give people the opportunity to control their neighbors and they will ensure a whole society of boring little houses surrounded by nothing but uniform green grass. Live that way for a couple of generations and you get boring little people to fill those houses.
You are right, people's yards are not islands unto themselves however there is a careful ballance to be made. Few people are capable of striking such a balance, it's better just to pretend our yards are islands and tell the busybodies to go fuck themselves.
Just wait and it will come. Where's the challenge?
Here from the US I am laughing at your question. What country are you from and who do you elect?
Maybe, just maybe they might be useful if you can develop WinCE apps for them. No, I wouldn't waste time with anything too complicated. But.. if you are in to building one-off hardware projects and if the devices have any usable sort of IO (maybe a serial port that could be connected to a microcontroller with lots of GPIOs) you might be able to use them as one-off control interfaces for something or other. I wouldn't go any deeper than programming by dragging controls into place, sending commands out the serial port upon events. Anything more complicated isn't worth it, buy something newer. Changing the OS.. if you can find something where someone has already ported Linux to your device specifically with step-by step instructions then sure. You will probably need to use the Wayback Machine. Beyond that.. not worth it.
Sure, they will just look under C for Cirrus in the phonebook.
So then the kids are forced to live in a box until they are old enough to make their own decision to finally get vaccinated.. which they will not do because in that box the only voices they ever heard were their own crazy ass parents?
Better to just force vaccination and solve the problem.
I am a parent and I think that not vaccinating ones kids should be equated with child abuse.
Geesh, so many posts where people are talking about Ford selling more cars because of this or even stating they might consider buying one themselves.
Remember when we chose our vehicles because of their qualities as a vehicle?
Remember when every dashboard had standard sized holes for the radio and stock radios where crap that almost everyone replaced?
I'd rather buy a vehicle that drives well and has a nice double-din hole where I can mount a head unit of my choice. I want to buy the car (or truck) based solely on it's abilities as a car or truck and the stereo (more like computer these days) totaly separate based on it's qualities as such.
Today's proprietary BS really sucks!