Tracking the Mole Inside Silk Road 2.0

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Tracking the Mole Inside Silk Road 2.0

Posted by Soulskill on Friday December 12, 2014 @05:21AM from the doomed-from-day-one dept.

derekmead writes: The arrest of the Silk Road 2.0 leader and subsequent seizure of the site was partially due to the presence of an undercover U.S. Department of Homeland Security agent, who "successfully infiltrated the support staff involved in running the Silk Road 2.0 website," according to the FBI.

Referencing multiple interviews, publicly available information, and parts of the moderator forum shared with me, it appears likely that the suspicions of many involved in Silk Road 2.0 are true: the undercover agent that infiltrated the site was a relatively quiet staff member known as Cirrus.

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Cirrusly? by turkeydance · 2014-12-12 05:24 · Score: 2, Funny

whose relative?
blow their minds by slashmydots · 2014-12-12 05:31 · Score: 4, Funny

If I ran a secret tor service site thing, I'd had 5 moderators and 1 administrator and they'd all be me just to mess with people's heads. That would prevent moles.
1. Re:blow their minds by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 05:39 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  until one of your psyche's turned on you.
2. Re:blow their minds by ultranova · 2014-12-12 05:40 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  If I ran a secret tor service site thing, I'd had 5 moderators and 1 administrator and they'd all be me just to mess with people's heads. That would prevent moles.
  
  If I ran a secret tor site, I wouldn't publicly post my security practices, especially on a non-Tor site that doesn't even use SSL. That's the most important security...
  Oh, crap.
  
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3. Re:blow their minds by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 05:49 · Score: 0
  
  If I ran a secret tor service site thing, I'd had 5 moderators and 1 administrator and they'd all be me just to mess with people's heads. That would prevent moles.
  If I ran a secret tor site, I wouldn't publicly post my security practices, especially on a non-Tor site that doesn't even use SSL. That's the most important security...
  Hey guys, can I get in on your super-secret tor service site. I'm really good at the online anonymity thing (see my username) and I'm totally trustworthy and dependable. I won't turn and rat you guys out or anything. Honest!
4. Re: blow their minds by wisnoskij · 2014-12-12 05:50 · Score: 2
  
  Garibaldi?
  
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5. Re: blow their minds by B5_geek · 2014-12-12 06:02 · Score: 1
  
  Nice reference.
  it always surprises me that people actively trying to avoid detection by law enforcement do so many dumb things.
  
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6. Re:blow their minds by jythie · 2014-12-12 06:18 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Question is, can you do 6 times the work, or just hexth ass all the jobs?
7. Re:blow their minds by slashmydots · 2014-12-12 07:04 · Score: 1
  
  Will you work for bitcoins? lol.
8. Re:blow their minds by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 07:39 · Score: 0
  
  Just fire them and give their position to another one that better represents your organization's values.
  Bonus points for having the ousted personality publicly burn bridges on the way out the door.
9. Re:blow their minds by ShaunC · 2014-12-12 07:55 · Score: 1
  
  Wish I had mod points for "hexth ass."
  
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10. Re:blow their minds by TheCarp · 2014-12-12 09:29 · Score: 2
  
  If I ran a secret tor site, I wouldn't register the servers with my email address based on my real name.
  
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11. Re:blow their minds by sexconker · 2014-12-12 11:30 · Score: 1
  
  Yup - this is what it boils down to.
  For "secret" things related to any sort of distribution to succeed, you have to connect people who want things to people who can distribute them.
  You need people on both end in order to facilitate distribution from one party to another.
  If someone shows up looking for some skub but finds no one distributing skub, they'll leave. The way to prevent this is to ensure there are plenty of people on both sides. To ensure there are plenty of people on both sides, people invite more people and lower the standards of trust.
  Every tor site / private tracker / secret club house a random schlub like you can access is one the enemy can access.
12. Re:blow their minds by Plebis · 2014-12-12 12:47 · Score: 1
  
  "Don't hexth ass six things, whole ass one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
  
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13. Re:blow their minds by AHuxley · 2014-12-12 13:13 · Score: 1
  
  Re: "That would prevent moles."
  Thats why traditional structures like family, extended family, village, tribe, cult, faith region or other aspects that can be understood.
  
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14. Re:blow their minds by luther349 · 2014-12-12 22:35 · Score: 1
  
  problem with the internet its pretty poor at keeping secrets.
15. Re:blow their minds by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-13 05:57 · Score: 0
  
  "Don't hexth ass six things, whole ass one thing." - Abraham Lincoln
  "That's a lame quote." - Queen Elizabeth
16. Re:blow their minds by doccus · 2014-12-13 09:22 · Score: 1
  
  Just fire them and give their position to another one that better represents your organization's values.
  Bonus points for having the ousted personality publicly burn bridges on the way out the door.
  Fire Me, Myself, and AC. Give the position to "I". After all, "I" always think I'm right...
17. Re:blow their minds by beastofburdon · 2014-12-15 03:59 · Score: 1
  
  I wish I had mod points for this!
Lucky grab by kamapuaa · 2014-12-12 05:33 · Score: 5, Funny

According to the FBI complaint against Benthall, he registered the black market bazaar's servers with the email address blake@benthall.net.
Lucky they had a mole on this inside, or they never could've taken down that criminal mastermind.

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1. Re:Lucky grab by hey! · 2014-12-12 06:47 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  What makes you think they took down the criminal mastermind?
  Remember this is the government we recently learned abducted a German citizen, beat him, chained him in the Salt Pit where he was rectally violated, only to learn they'd snatched a vacationing car salesman who happened to have the same common Arabic name as the guy they actually wanted. It was like kidnapping and anally raping "John Smiths" until you found the one you wanted.
  
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2. Re:Lucky grab by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 07:23 · Score: 0
  
  Excuse me while I change my name to John Smith
3. Re:Lucky grab by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 08:14 · Score: 0
  
  I get that you don't like the US government, but I don't understand how your reply has anything to do with what you replied to.
  Do you watch Rocky 4 and root for Ivan Drago?
4. Re:Lucky grab by hey! · 2014-12-12 08:39 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  What it has in common is that the government isn't infallible. It should have to prove its case before it anally rapes anyone.
  
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5. Re:Lucky grab by killkillkill · 2014-12-12 08:57 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, anal rape -- that's the connecting thought that brings it all together... Thank you for the clarity.
6. Re:Lucky grab by TheCarp · 2014-12-12 09:37 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Well I think he is saying we can trust them about as far as we can throw a battleship.
  Certainly is evidence that the people in charge, up to the highest levels, don't seem bound by any sense of duty to their own laws, or really any sense of justice. I mean, bad enough they broke the law and tortured people, but, the wrong people? And the only response was to cover it up? Now....now we are to take their statements on other issues at face value?
  Thing is, it gets worst. We have the DEA having openly claimed in the past that they believe Parallel construction is perfectly acceptible practice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
  Based on that alone ANY claim they make as to the investigation and ESPECIALLY to where information was obtained is suspect....they have admitted openly they will fabricate the origin of information, and go so far as to present that fabrication to prosecution and the courts.
  
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7. Re:Lucky grab by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 09:40 · Score: 0
  
  There is a reason it's called federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
8. Re:Lucky grab by Plebis · 2014-12-12 12:49 · Score: 1
  
  Warrantless anal rape: The scourge of the 21st century.
  
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9. Re:Lucky grab by wierd_w · 2014-12-13 00:55 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, everyone is surprised when they learn about government and buttseccs. From what I understand, a new bill about that is going up for general consideration soon.
  The Government Operational Amendment for Transfer of Sensitive Exchanges
  Or, GOATSE.
  This amendment allows government unprecedented leeway to perform "exchanges" that they consider to be of a "Sensitive" nature however and whenever and with whoever they wish.
  Naturally, anything related to BUTTSECCS, or the Bureau for Universal Totalitarianism, Terrorism, Subjugation, Extortion, Corporate Corruption and Slavery (A joint branch handled by staff members of the IRS and the Joint chiefs of staff operating under the executive via executive order) is of course a matter of National Security, and needs to handled with the greatest amount of confidentiality and secrecy allowed. Naturally, since BUTTSECCS just wouldn't be the same without GOATSE, and we obviously need this secret buttseccs organization to have a strong, healthy government, the occasional circumstance where an innocent american citizen gets inadvertantly fingered, and subjected to multiple, deeply invasive, penetrating examinations and cross exchanges can hardly be grounds for denial, now can they?
  I am sure the intelligent folks here on /. would like to join me in asking our congress critters to "Make a pass at GOATSE, and give BUTTSECCS a chance." There's a big, gaping hole in america, and it's there job to help fill it!
Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Crashmarik · 2014-12-12 05:38 · Score: 0, Troll

Makes me want to support parallel construction. Seeing this forced out into the public just serves as a howto of things to avoid for the next silk road.
1. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by CaptainDork · 2014-12-12 05:41 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Seeing this just serves to remind me that criminals are dumb.
  
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2. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by oodaloop · 2014-12-12 05:49 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  The criminals that are caught are dumb. You never even knew the smart ones were there.
  
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3. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 05:52 · Score: 0
  
  The caught ones are dumb. Somehow we rarely hear about the smart ones in FBI announcements.
4. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by jythie · 2014-12-12 06:21 · Score: 1
  
  Eh, I doubt anything released is all that useful, much less a 'howto'. An interesting post mortem but predictive in a terribly useful way.
5. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by jythie · 2014-12-12 06:22 · Score: 1
  
  Smart ones still make dumb mistakes now and then, luck plays a big role in those lapses catching up with them or not, and every criminal looks dumb at that point.
6. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by marcello_dl · 2014-12-12 06:34 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  > criminals are dumb
  Indeed, They put faith in Cirrus after all the warnings about not trusting the Cloud.
  
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7. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by currently_awake · 2014-12-12 06:43 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  This is why the police win, they just wait for the criminals to make mistakes. Police are not paid enough to attract the top talent, they win by statistics.
8. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Crashmarik · 2014-12-12 07:08 · Score: 1
  
  Well apparently silk road 1.0 and 2.0 both made the same mistake. There are lots of things that are really obvious in retrospect but get overlooked just the same.
9. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by CaptainDork · 2014-12-12 07:50 · Score: 1
  
  Well played.
  
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10. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 08:40 · Score: 0
  
  The smart ones are well known, they're the ones with lobbyists and connections that make their crimes "legal".
11. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 09:50 · Score: 0
  
  > Seeing this just serves to remind me that criminals are dumb.
  Including Keith Alexander?
12. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by david_thornley · 2014-12-12 10:38 · Score: 1
  
  Sure I know about the smart criminals. They typically work on Wall Street.
  
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13. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 11:53 · Score: 0
  
  This is why the police win, they just wait for the criminals to make mistakes. Police are not paid enough to attract the top talent, they win by statistics.
  Truer words have never been spoken.
  For all the hype we hear about "dedicated and professional" law enforcement, literally almost every time they arrest and convict because someone literally lands right in their lap, with a fucking ribbon tied on. There are exceptions to this rule, but they're just that: exceptions.
  Also, smart "criminals" know how to rig the game. You contribute to local politicians and charities, and you become beloved with a lot of powerful friends.
14. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Kjella · 2014-12-12 15:25 · Score: 1
  
  That's how they catch people, if they're winning well... So they took down Silk Road 2.0, it's still a piss in the ocean to beating the drug industry. They take down The Pirate Bay, it's still a piss in the ocean to beating copyright infringement. From big to small, they can catch a shoplifter but shoplifting doesn't go away, they can bust a crime syndicate but organized crime doesn't go away either. And more often than not they're the mop-up crew, sure it's nice that murderers go to jail but the victim is still dead so it's a limited win. It's far from a lawless country but it's still way off from a lawful country, at least in some areas we can make an educated guess on how many criminals they don't catch because there's a victim and a crime scene but in others it's just guesswork. Particularly the kind that wears suits.
  
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15. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 20:33 · Score: 0
  
  There are already three other darknet markets that I know of, just on Tor. Word is that Silk Road 2 sucked from a technical, social, economical, and security standpoint. Few people miss it. The second-generation sites started running as soon as Silk Road 1 went down, and none of them have been busted (yet) except SR2.
16. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Jack+Griffin · 2014-12-13 19:18 · Score: 1
  
  But the police don't win. The police tell you they win, and they parade a bunch of the dumbest people on the planet to demonstrate the point, but all the super yachts in the world tell me the police aren't winning, merely creating a situation that is palatable to the masses.
17. Re:Seeing this information so widely disseminated by Druegan · 2014-12-15 08:54 · Score: 1
  
  And if they can't do that, they simply collude with a prosecutor who is bucking for high conviction rates to win a judgeship to railroad some innocent schlep by abusing the system, and then the "public' thinks the matter is settled and the pressure to actually find out truth goes away.
Protective custody by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 05:43 · Score: 0

So now that the (shady, murky, dark, and possibly murderous) underworld of Silk Road knows who it was that betrayed them, is that person now at risk of reprisals?
I'm sure that undercover agents for the FBI have cover identities so that when they are detected as "agent" their actual identity is not known or compromised.
In 10 years it might make an interesting book.
1. Re:Protective custody by TWX · 2014-12-12 06:03 · Score: 1
  
  For all we know, "Cirrus" was a committee.
  
  What this shows me is that there's just no way to keep a secret if other people are involved.
  
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2. Re:Protective custody by mythosaz · 2014-12-12 06:14 · Score: 2
  
  For all we know, the speculation and guesses in the article are complete misses.
  There's nothing even approaching evidence in the Vice article.
3. Re:Protective custody by jythie · 2014-12-12 06:23 · Score: 2
  
  The risk is probably very low. If, as an organization, they were capable of taking reprisals against the FBI, they could just as easily take them against any number of publicly known faces involves in the case, or the judge, or the prosecutor, etc.
4. Re:Protective custody by morgauxo · 2014-12-12 06:35 · Score: 1
  
  Sure, they will just look under C for Cirrus in the phonebook.
5. Re:Protective custody by Immerman · 2014-12-12 06:59 · Score: 1
  
  Sure there is - don't you remember the old adage?
  "Two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead."
  
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6. Re:Protective custody by jeffmeden · 2014-12-12 08:47 · Score: 1
  
  For all we know, "Cirrus" was a committee.
  What this shows me is that there's just no way to keep a secret if other people are involved.
  It's best to simply define secret as "that which you and you alone know".
The Internet works again! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 05:47 · Score: 0

The pirate bay is back.. yea.. thepiratebay.cr
1. Re:The Internet works again! by wile_e_wonka · 2014-12-12 06:08 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  This is veering offtopic, but, according to this article, thepiratebay.cr is not to be trusted, if I am understanding it correctly:
  
  Various mirror sites of The Pirate Bay have sprung up since the site’s disappearance, but this one is different. Some alternatives simply provide a copy of The Pirate Bay with no new content (many proxy sites have been doing this for years). Others, like thepiratebay.cr, go further and even provide fake content as if it was new and even attempt to charge users.
  Probably any torrent site is not to be easily trusted, but I could imagine hackers setting up a lookalike site in order to get people who should know better to download problematic stuff. Heck, maybe the CIA set it up.
2. Re:The Internet works again! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 08:12 · Score: 0
  
  Thanks for the info. Almost like the old-/.
3. Re:The Internet works again! by luther349 · 2014-12-12 22:31 · Score: 1
  
  always fun to watch the big business think they won something.
Nature of the beast by jwhyche · 2014-12-12 06:00 · Score: 0

I don't believe there is any way places like silkroad will be able to totally rule out undercover moles. The very anonymity that makes it work counts against it in this manner. Unless you are the only person running the show.

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1. Re: Nature of the beast by mSparks43 · 2014-12-13 11:02 · Score: 1
  
  I for one would like to thank the fbi for doing so much to promote the darknet market places.
  with site operators taking home $400,000 a month and counting. it's going to become a highly competitive market for darknet market places if they keep up this level of attention.
Old fashioned detective work by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2014-12-12 06:03 · Score: 4, Insightful

This is how I want our 3-letter agencies to be doing their jobs, rather than actively working to sacrifice everyone's privacy and safety just because it might make it slightly easier to nail a small number of criminals.

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1. Re:Old fashioned detective work by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 06:12 · Score: 0
  
  This is how I want our 3-letter agencies to be doing their jobs, rather than actively working to sacrifice everyone's privacy and safety just because it might make it slightly easier to nail a small number of criminals.
  And it makes targeting the real terrorists (aka government agents) easier to terminate with extreme prejudice once identified within your organization. Who'd trust a guy named "Cirrus?" It's a type of cloud for crying out loud...nobody trusts the cloud. LOL
2. Re:Old fashioned detective work by thedarb · 2014-12-12 06:14 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  And how do you think they knew where to put a mole in the first place? They needed to insert him into the operation so they could do their parallel construction of evidence.
  
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3. Re:Old fashioned detective work by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 07:29 · Score: 0
  
  Cirrus could've been anyone - would the REAL Cirrus please stand up? Not likely, but the DHS "Cirrus" wont be prosecuted for any illegal activities they supposedly were part of. Can anyone prove that the purported Cirrus is the real one and not just a DHS agent claiming to be, after-the-fact, so as to make a stronger case so they don't have to reveal their actual methods?
  Must be nice to live in a fairy-tale land where 'they' aren't capturing every byte on the wire and infiltrating every "secure" system (ie TOR etc) but it didnt get SilkRoad anywhere good.
  All your data are belong to U.S.
4. Re:Old fashioned detective work by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 07:34 · Score: 1
  
  Meanwhile, as Silk Road 2.0 was taken down, another 10 tons of illegal narcotics slipped through a shipping port into the US!
  Yes. Regardless how I feel about drugs, this is exactly how we should be curtailling those nasty things. Taking down small fry digital black markets. Much easier that way, than say, stopping an actual internation drug cartel with the military. More high profile too!
5. Re:Old fashioned detective work by ShaunC · 2014-12-12 08:03 · Score: 1
  
  And how do you think they knew where to put a mole in the first place?
  It was the most notorious and publicized narcotics marketplace in the world, open to all comers. I don't think it took much work to figure out that's where they needed to put the mole.
  
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Great job, FBI by mi · 2014-12-12 06:09 · Score: 0

the undercover agent that infiltrated the site was a relatively quiet staff member known as Cirrus
Kudos to the quiet agent.

Benthall, who is accused of running the new Silk Road under the handle "Defcon," has been charged with narcotics trafficking, as well as conspiracy charges related to money laundering, computer hacking, and trafficking in fraudulent identification documents. The criminal complaint against him alleges that the Silk Road 2 sold hundreds of kilograms of drugs of every description to hundreds of thousands of buyers around the world, with bitcoin-based sales of more than $8 million per month at the time of its seizure.

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1. Re:Great job, FBI by Archangel+Michael · 2014-12-12 06:49 · Score: 1
  
  I can imagine the defense.
  "I didn't sell anything on Silk Road 2. I built a website others used to sell those things. Would you arrest the CEO of Ebay if one of its customers sold something that was illegal?"
  
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2. Re:Great job, FBI by Registered+Coward+v2 · 2014-12-12 06:58 · Score: 1
  
  I can imagine the defense.
  "I didn't sell anything on Silk Road 2. I built a website others used to sell those things. Would you arrest the CEO of Ebay if one of its customers sold something that was illegal?"
  And I can imagine the judge's response: "Guilty. Next."
  
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3. Re: Great job, FBI by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 07:11 · Score: 0
  
  this is why they have things like appeals
4. Re:Great job, FBI by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 08:50 · Score: 1
  
  Well they would if the CEO of Ebay:
  1) Failed to respond to the fact that their site was being used for illegal activity (ie banning people)
  2) Actively advertised it as a haven for illegal sales.
  3) Worked to conceal the identity of the illegal salesmen and customers from law enforcement.
  4) refused to work with law enforcement to stop the illegal sales.
5. Re: Great job, FBI by sexconker · 2014-12-12 11:38 · Score: 0
  
  No, this is why we have things like guns.
6. Re: Great job, FBI by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 11:57 · Score: 0
  
  What, you mean he should be executed on the spot?
No, it wasn't Cirrus... by Sowelu · 2014-12-12 06:19 · Score: 4, Funny

...it was his brother, Achenar. He's demented, he is guilty!
No, it wasn't Cirrus... by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 06:39 · Score: 0

Bring me a blue page!
antilop.cc??? by chriscappuccio · 2014-12-12 08:11 · Score: 1

These guys should give credit to lamoustache. See http://antilop.cc/sr/
Why the quiet guy?! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 10:55 · Score: 0

Those extroverted pricks!
& if crimils wanted to work hard, they'd get a by raymorris · 2014-12-12 15:25 · Score: 0

Securing a criminal enterprise from infiltration or detection by the FBI is a lot of hard work. Criminals don't want to work hard - if they wanted to work hard for their money, they'd just get a job.
The fact that criminals are basically lazy makes life a lot easier for law enforcement and for those of us in security. As an example, I can almost instantly spot when a server has a root kit due to one specific thing the bad guys are aways too lazy to do.
Exactly! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-12 20:10 · Score: 0

It's bad that Silk Road 2.0 got shut down because the Drug War is bad. And all the non-violent drug offenders should released. But..
This is an example of why ordinary "police/detective work", not wiretaps, raids, etc. catches criminals. Any big criminal operation needs employees.
That said, you could perhaps build a peer2peer unregulated marketplace that nobody could really shutdown. Also, a small craigslist style marketplace could probably operate with only true believer admins, etc.
Better than being a wannabe by Anonymous Coward · 2014-12-13 05:28 · Score: 0

Like you, raymorris http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... . How you possess the nerve to show your face here after that, astounds me.
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P.S.=> QUESTION: What's it TASTE LIKE, having to "eat your words" so many times, raymorris?
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