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How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years
HughPickens.com writes Bloomberg News reports that venture capitalist and paypal co-founder Peter Thiel has a plan to reach 120 years of age. His secret — taking human growth hormone (HGH) every day, a special Paleo diet, and a cure for cancer within ten years. "[HGH] helps maintain muscle mass, so you're much less likely to get bone injuries, arthritis," says Thiel. "There's always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but — I'm hopeful that we'll get cancer cured in the next decade." Human growth hormone also known as somatotropin or somatropin, is a peptide hormone that stimulates growth, cell reproduction and regeneration in humans and other animals. Thiel says he also follows a Paleo diet, doesn't eat sugar, drinks red wine and runs regularly. The Paleolithic diet, also popularly referred to as the caveman diet, Stone Age diet and hunter-gatherer diet, is a modern nutritional diet designed to emulate, insofar as possible using modern foods, the diet of wild plants and animals eaten by humans during the Paleolithic era. Thiel's Founders Fund is also investing in a number of biotechnology companies to extend human lifespans, including Stem CentRx Inc., which uses stem cell technology for cancer therapy. With the 70 plus years remaining him and inspired by "Atlas Shrugged," Thiel also plans to launch a floating sovereign nation in international waters, freeing him and like-minded thinkers to live by libertarian ideals with no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons.
... or how long paleolitic people lived
And no doubt they will import labor and pay them subsistence, since no one in this floating nation will be willing to collect the trash. So we will have floating favelas.
Well, at least if it turns wrong no one will say it was unexpected...
I expect a cure for death within the next 15 years.
"no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons"
How could this possibly go wrong?
Seriously, he's going to die like the rest of us. I've seen how far we've come in medicine and I see how far we haven't gotten yet. The body starts failing one way then another way and it just keeps piling up as you get 70-90 years old. Cancer is just one of many, many things that are likely to kill you before you're 120.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
It doesn't cure stupid, that's for sure.
But hell end up dying in a small plane crash or some other accident, and that's long before he starts building Rapture. Wish him the best and all, at least he's going all out.
Must rent your desk, and more like the old company store days.
they better have a good army for themselves also what happens when some get's layed off and can't pay to get off they can lock them up? shoot them? kick them overboard?
Sick to death of hearing "paleo diet" every time I turn around. Here's an idea: eat a BALANCED diet in amounts that don't put back more calories than you burn in a day and *gasp*, you'll be healthy! No fad diet bullshit, no magical thinking, no yearning for the days when we were chasing down rabbits and screaming at our own shadows during a thunderstorm.
to be a nob.
Or many of the other old age related diseases of which there is no treatment. Wishful thinking.
He's gonna need that cure for cancer with all the HGH he's taking, assuming he's taking it intravenously. Otherwise, he's just flushing money down the toilet. I do look forward to his building a real-life floating Rapture. Hopefully all the super-rich will go down to the murky depths together during a violent storm.
Got to love people's plans - Of course there is nothing stopping him from being hit by a bus, or other random thing that can get people.
I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them
What's he going to get to do in 120 years that he - with all his money - can't do in 80?
Aim for digital immortality.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Ray Kurzweil's got this ultra-longevity thing figured out
And so it begins. Again.
The rich attempt to defeat death once more.
Here's hoping their success and eventual failure is well documented so it can be used to improve medical science in general.
Any attempt to extend medical science is always useful, even if it is highly destructive in nature.
By the way whats wrong with John Galt? Supposedly brilliant chap, and just because one stupid railroad executive refused to build a railroad track to his pet project he just gives up? For all that brilliance could he not build a railroad? John Galt was an idiot, so are the people who mistake that fiction to be their guiding philosophy.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Good luck with that.
With so much of his time devoted to maintaining the caveman diet, there's a good chance Thiel could actually die of boredom. He's kinda boring me already.
Is this sig nificant?
I actually am a scientist, and coincidentally, I work for the National Cancer Institute (a part of NIH). While I don't want state anything in absolute certainties, I seriously doubt we'll be able to "cure cancer" in 10 years. Other than the exercise, I fail to see how any of those things will help him live to 120. They may give him a high chance of reaching 80, or something like that, but most of his approaches are probably being used for the wrong purposes. I mean, cavemen (and women!) didn't live very long lives, even accounting for frank injuries from dinosaurs, sharktopus, and whatnot.
Disclaimer: Didn't watch the video.
As long as he is in our memories, he'll live on in our hearts.
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It doesn't work like that. It's like saying we'll cure every virus ever. There may be ways to get the body to fight it, but there isn't a cure.
bloomberg magazine reports that rich people are still crazier than a shit-house rat. This guys hopeful pledge is fundamentally pointless on a number of levels.
HGH: enjoy an increased risk of diabetes and Hodgkins lymphoma. HGH, or human growth hormone, is basically a recreational steroid for the well-to-do. its effectiveness in extending life has never even been correlated, let alone proven. At worst, its an example of just how broken the american medical system is.
Paleo: all meats in america are processed to some level, and red meat has been directly correlated with an increased risk of prostate and colon cancer. various additives like nitrites and processing methods such as using carbon monoxide to improve meat color, actually involve carcinogens or cancer suspect agents in their execution. Factory farming and the prolific use of sterroids and hormones in all american meat have virtually guaranteed an increased risk of cancer. enjoy significantly elevated levels of cholesterol, and supporting a fundamentally unsustainable concept of factory farming that contributes to everything from climate change to aggressively resistant bacteria and viruses.
Cure for cancer: yes. yes you will need this if you seriously think gobbling hormones and sterroids will prolong your life to 120. But if you think its coming in 10 years, you're out of your mind. Cancer is still a gruelling disease that we hardly understand. We have to throw some of our most advanced, and destructive, medical treatments at it just to ensure remission and even thats not guaranteed.
where this nut job really fies off the rails is the soverign nation at sea for 'like minded' individuals who also happen to be coincidentally filthy fucking rich and totally disinterested in normal society to the point that gated communities no longer cut it. Have fun defending it from cruise missiles and guided tactical nuclear arms once one of these 'like minded' people pisses off a foreign nation.
Good people go to bed earlier.
It takes 40 years to figure out life, 40 years to save up for retirement, and 40 years watch everyone else die. At 45-years-old, I've completed one-third of my life. I'm too sexy to die young. If 120 years was good enough for Moses, it's good enough for me.
Having served in the Navy for over a decade, I've got to say that "floating in international waters" and "looser building codes" seems to be a inherent contradiction in their plan.
I hope his semi-mortality works out well what with disgruntled low paid workers with easy access to weapons operating his Raft.
.... but then be put in a suspended state where no matter HOW many phone calls, e-mails, or other contact will you be allowed to get him back - even his Mother will be REFUSED until the investigation is completed, which incidentally will be 120 years. Only then will you get the body, minus interest and taxes.
In the words of Billy Joel, "Only the good die young". So being a venture capitalist should be a good head start on a long life.
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.
Why do people think this is a healthy diet?
We have very VERY well and very current medical evidence that suggests what the best kinds of diets are, and are still commonly eaten in many countries.
If you are wondering, it is Mediterranean diets and East Asian diets.
But diet isn't all there is to it, either.
He has the physical side down, more or less, but does he have the mental side down? Who knows. He hasn't mentioned anything about the general stresses he goes through, his overall emotional state and so on. Those play a HUGE part in it as well.
Being annoyed at things is enough to shave a couple years off you. Yes, just simple seemingly harmless annoyance. Being around people you actively get annoyed by, or things you are annoyed by, all of these contribute to that.
His annoyance at not being where he is could very well cut him short of 120.
His bodies eventual failures that start to pile up will annoy.
Of course, he isn't even half way through his hopeful life-span.
In that time, we most certainly will have solved the majority of cancer problems.
Already we have found the metal used to form the key to unlock how secondary tumors spread. It is only a matter of time before the biggest threat cancer poses is reduced to basically nothing. Secondary cancers are the ones that kill most of the time since they form over and over in ever-increasingly complex places and it is not long before it becomes a serious issue where it begins forming in vital organs.
Cancer in general, that will likely take longer. Cancer is a very fundamental issue. It lies at the heart of multicellular life. It might take understanding the genome and physics behind biology in order to prevent it entirely. Actually understand it, that is.
Body transplants. Cloning body parts. Stuff like that will probably be commonplace for the rich in 40 odd years.
Nanotech, that likely won't come for a while. We are getting there though, so fingers crossed.
However, stem cell treatment and future treatments that can break brain plaques down could allow him to potentially even go past that 120 mark.
The brain fails because of plaques. It is the eventual doom we all face if we live that long. And we know that sleep actually is the process that clears the brain of plaques as best as it can. But it has obvious failures. Humans, hell, most life, has never lived long enough to have experienced brain failure on any reasonable time scale with respect to evolution. There hasn't been any chance for it to develop any more efficient system of clean-up beyond the usual sleep.
Long long before that has ever happened, offspring has been produced and life goes on.
Evolution has no purpose other than to continue, just like the hands of time. Tick tock.
Elon Musk wants to retire on Mars.
And Peter Thiel wants to establish a floating sovereign nation and live to be 120 yo.
Personally I'm betting on Musk.
His secret — taking human growth hormone (HGH) every day, a special Paleo diet, and a cure for cancer within ten years. "[HGH] helps maintain muscle mass, so you're much less likely to get bone injuries, arthritis," says Thiel. "There's always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but — I'm hopeful that we'll get cancer cured in the next decade [...] a modern nutritional diet designed to emulate, insofar as possible using modern foods, the diet of wild plants and animals eaten by humans during the Paleolithic era. [...] investing in a number of biotechnology companies to extend human lifespans, including Stem CentRx Inc., which uses stem cell technology for cancer therapy. [...] plans to launch a floating sovereign nation in international waters, freeing him and like-minded thinkers to live by libertarian ideals with no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons.
If anyone played those games and thought "well how could all this batshit stuff all happen in the same place?" now you have your answer.
I've been thinking long and hard about this concept lately. I'm getting old(er), and I'm noticing that I'm starting to slow down. I've still got 20, maybe 30 years of good life left, but really I don't see the point of living much beyond my 60s.
Logan's Run had the right idea. People increasingly just "get in the way" of progress at a certain age. It does vary for some of us, but I'm already seeing that in some ways I'm holding society back by extending my life. The next generation is more tolerant, more enlightened, and certainly more technically competent than I could ever hope to be.
Another childless, rich, white male plans to live(practically) forever - STOP THE PRESSES!
Dude, have a kid. It's cheaper, more reliable and far more fun.
That's a long time to live with a tenuous connection to reality.
I stole this Sig
Hence our revulsion at the sight of a human being killing an animal with their bare hands and teeth, and ripping their flesh apart with their teeth...
Oh, wait... that doesn't even happen - which proves my point.
Yet the 'intelligent' Slashdot crowd will still insist that they aren't vegan because they thought it all up for themselves, and it was nothing to do with societal brainwashing from birth. LOL.
I was going to find a way to make the money to buy a section of land out in farm country, and build 2 giant old world style castles. My friends and I would go live there and we would fight paintball battles all day. There would be no "work" or "jobs" or parents, only paintball.
Then I turned 10 and realized that was kind of ridiculous.
Just like the suggestion that 10 million people will be living in floating Ayn Rand cities by 2050, and that the secret recipe to immortality is steroids and the most recent diet fad.
- Holy crap, I've got MOD points! Who thought that was a good idea.
When a third world navy, or simply pirates takes over his island tax haven paradise, he will beg some non-libertarian state to protect his pampered A**. Pure libertarianism, like anarchy, capitalism and communism, works so much better in the pages of a book than in the cold harsh light of the real world.
Perhaps he should also invest in car automation companies because
they are the most likely to actually kill the dude within the next 70 years.
If you don't control them, they will control you.....
It will be interesting what it is that will get him well before 120. Steve Jobs also had crazy ideas about longevity and dieting, and the latter very likely contributed to his early demise from pancreatic cancer. We'll see how history laughs at this clown and Kurzweill, another clown, when they kick the bucket helped by their own stupidity.
What about side effects? Even the most basic drugs have them.
That's what it boils down to. Maybe Dr. Oz helped him devise the plan, though I'm not sure you can legitimately call it a plan, since it includes "somebody cures cancer" as on of it's key steps.
Maybe the underpants gnomes can help him out too.
Because professional wrestlers live really long lives taking steroids... Oh wait, no.
Luke 12:15
all this money floating around had to start making interesting headlines like this eventually.
See headlines from 2008, 1999 also.
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Subsistence?! You will never make a good Libertarian.
"Another day older and deeper in debt" sound familiar? How about "I owe my soul to the company store"?
You make sure they are in debt to you and can never quit, you never let them subsist. If they can subsist they can leave (hint: if you can make sure they cannot leave or contact the outside world, you do not pay them at all). Ideally when they die you dump them overboard, then you go after their family for the debts they accrued during their employment with you.
some random things pop into my head reading this:
1. why would you want to live to be 120?
2. cancer's not going to be cured in 10 years
Running really isn't that good for you. Sure it can increase your muscle mass (lift weights instead), cardio endurance (play a wind instrument instead), and releases dopamine into your brain (do anything fun or fulfilling), but there's lot of side effects. Your joints wear out faster, you will get foots injures eventually, and it puts your body under massive stress. Your body thinks you're running to save your life so it temporarily shuts down your digestion system, your immune system, and everything else that's using energy that could be spent on getting away from whatever is attacking you. That dopamine is so you don't feel the ill effects and instead keep running because running is the only thing keeping you from being eaten. There have been meta studies that show runners actually die sooner than those who don't run. Body stress matters.
However with "no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons" I expect his island would turn into some type of slavery state. Something in that type of society with unreliable buildings (in the middle of the ocean no less) will kill him way before 120. Hopefully one of his young sex slaves will do him in.
Reading this is on my to-do list but I get the impression that this novel is the foundation of neo-liberalism: The belief that a corporation is more righteous and valuable person than a natural person. No, a corporation is an artificial identity created by law to limit the liability of employees and owners. Corporations don't pay for judges and jails.
There was a floating strip mall in the Great Barrier Reef, Australia. It sank after 18 months.
A nation implies a government with standing at the UN plus a military. Without these, the 'nation' will be at the whim of wandering pirates and police boats. No, arming the peasants and letting them fight to keep their bit of land causes civil war, not national defense.
So a lot like Somalia. It would be far easier to use maritime law: Notably the one saying a ship at sea is a state under its parent nation. Then these idealists get their chosen parent nation to exempt ships from those pesky construction codes and labour laws.
Where is the electricity and fresh water to operate a building coming from? So a building without foundations or beaches to protect it will have less structural strength against wind and waves. What could go wrong?
Hands up those serfs who want to go to another 'nation' and earn less money? Maybe if the boss has a monopoly (who is going to enforce that?), the serfs will make a wage from sales volume alone. Do employees get evicted as soon as they lose their job, a la 'The apprentice'?
I think the 'world police' AKA the world's biggest Navy will have something to say about the sale of boatloads of weapons by private businesses.
I mean, I kinda get it, but there's always going to be something undeniably hilarious about declaring "I want to live somewhere with looser building codes."
Anyone see that ridiculous bad sci-fi induced rant from Elon Musk about AI? Really makes you wonder if the Paypal guys just got lucky as far as their startup went because they seem a bit idiotic.
Cavemen didn't live all that long...
someone needs to give this guy a primer on cancer and its 'cures'.
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.
got 2x2 of every animal in my ship, global warming making the oceans rise. growing a beard. still my discussions with the architect of intelligent design were insistent that since I still see rainbows after it rains, the age covenant is still in effect. I need to find a lawyer, but there aren't any in libertarian fantasy land. otherwise I think I have it all figured out.
Thiel also plans to launch a floating sovereign nation in international waters, freeing him and like-minded thinkers to live by libertarian ideals with no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons.
Looser "building" codes?
Traditionally, the sailor's greatest fear has always been fire, not water, but there are countless ways a poorly designed and engineered boat can kill you. Not that drowning is a particularly easy way to go.
No welfare? No minimum wage?
The Potemkin School of Maritine Management:
Rampant incompetence at very top, Long hours. Hard Work. Low Pay. Bad food, Unforgiving and hazardous environments. Not a trace of concern for the sick, injured or aging.
No wonder all those upper-class libertarian idealists on board are packing a rod.
more elderly white people with too much money, and not enough remaining neurons to do anything useful with it
So let's summarize this. Some rich person think they are smarter than everyone else and that they have the ills of the world figured out. Namely: a cure for cancer is just around the corner (based on what evidence?), so they choose a diet that is totally unproven to do anything good or bad, they plan to live forever and they will retreat to some mystical artificial island where they can do what they want and not be bothered by anyone not of their own kind. So far so good.
What I don't get is why they think welfare is bad. Obviously they don't need it, they're rich. But not everyone can be rich, this would be the same as everyone being poor. So given that in any society there will be richer and poorer people, welfare simply ensures that even the poorest get some minimum access to services, typically health care. This does not prevent richer people to get better services. Explain to me why this is bad? Given that rich/poor status is mostly a question of luck, being anti-welfare has always struck me as being selfish.
Randomness will get him and he will die a statistically insignificant death.
If he keeps taking daily doses of HGH.
Is it just me or does this read like the intro to a Bioshock game or the backstory for a bond villain?
Years of HGH abuse twisted his mind and caused cellular mutation granting him super-human abilities while his body became riddled with cancer. He built a city to be free from regulation, he built an army to protect his city, and then...
Would you kindly license this story to Marvel?
How the hell does a guy who doesn't need it get a prescription drug like HGH? If he orders it from overseas, why isn't it seized when coming into the country? Why isn't the doctor whose pad the prescription came from being investigated?
Bottom line - this is just another example of a rich fuck who doesn't seem to think the rules for rest of us apply to him and a government all too willing to let the whole thing slide if you're rich enough.
That is all.
No, the reason lifespan has extended is that sabretooth tigers are extinct now.
Maybe he'll live to found the Weyland-Yutani corporation. Or maybe he'll live to 66 and drop dead of throat cancer.
With his libertarian-no regulation ideas, no doubt his floating nation will simply discharge raw sewage directly into the ocean. Just the kind of thinking we need to save marine ecosystems and humans from extinction.
At the heart of every libertarian is the notion that "I want the freedom to sh*t on you". No wonder there are so many corporate sponsors.
Mr. Thiel,
You were born rich to obviously rich parents who could afford to send you to Stanford for your undergraduate and graduate degrees.
You're still rich today.
Congratulations. You did not lose your fortune, something almost impossible today due to favorable taxation for the wealthy.
Once you're rich you stay that way forever in the United States unless you're a very stupid person.
Sincerely,
The 99%.
The fact that he has wacky ideas does not surprise me. Rich people are born that way, being given every advantage in life. People don't get rich by being particularly intelligent. They pay people to do everything for them, and unless they're very stupid they get much richer in the process.
Here's an idea, why not try actually living for a while instead of cowering in fear of the reaper? Why waste your entire life living in fear of something you can't do anything about? Just take what you have, squeeze everything you can out of it and laugh in Death's face when he comes for you.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Please someone explain to Mr Thiel that you cannot take your money with you into the underworld
Socialism is doing just fine in Germany, France, the Netherlands, Canada and anywhere else it's really been tried, thank you very much.
Fascist dictatorships who borrow socialism's rhetoric to excuse stealing everything for themselves (China, USSR, North Korea) don't work so well, but then again they're not socialist, so it all evens out.
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A bunch of rich guys on a private island in international waters with no laws? How long until a drug cartel with boats decides to make a quick buck?
Many amateur and professional body builders feel suspect that excess HGH leads to palumboism, which caused disfigurement and early death. The observation is that 70s and 80s generation body builders, who took a lot of anabolic steroids, but not much else didn't get it. While several 90s gen body builders, who took HGH did.
If it acquires resources on instantiation like a duck, then its a shared_ptr<Duck>
Sovereignty means you are capable of defend your territory. Perhaps he will be killed by pirates before growth hormone cause him cancer.
this link is censored in a kingdom just north of Malaysia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024761/Atlas-Shrugged-Silicon-Valley-billionaire-reveals-plan-launch-floating-start-country-coast-San-Francisco.html
got forwarded to http://203.113.26.210/
I wonder why !!!???
Just happen to have some vacation there, will see later....
All your money wont another minute buy.
Does the phrase sitting duck mean anything to anyone.. i am assuming since they will have their own government. They wont be needing our navy... they might want to think about life outside of their rich beverly hills gated community.
For those of us not in the US, name-dropping Ayn Rand is analogous to saying you've read the great philosophers like Norman Vincent Peale (in Tom Lehrer's words).
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Nuke it from orbit, don't have to worry about fallout.
i suspect that cancer is process intrinsically linked to the 2nd law and thus is an irreversable process. but maybe it's effects can be delayed and controlled to who know's what degree. there's my crackpot's worth
As someone being treated for acromegaly, he should go careful with the GH. That stuff may cause lean muscle mass, but those muscles do not necessarily increase in strength as they increase in size. It causes enlargement of soft tissues as well as bone structures, leading to increased risk of some cancers or organ failure around the 50's. If not that, he might end up with a face like Arnold Schwarzenegger...
I've also never heard of a completely water-borne paleo society, but hey, we can only learn from others' attempts, even if they fail.
My suggestion: https://www.newschallenge.org/...
"When confronted with a health issue, many people turn to their doctor, the internet, or friends for advice. But then what do you and your family do with all the advice you receive? What do even health professionals do with all the often conflicting information out there when they research a patient's health issues? We want to create software that helps with that challenge by making it easier for individuals and communites to collect health information (from whatever public sources including the internet), organize it, prioritize it, reason about it, act on it, and feed back the results of action into a next iteration as a learning experience. "
To add to your list, more vegetables, fruits, and beans can help, too. See Dr. Fuhrman. He may have become too commercial and may also miss a few things (Salt vilified too much? Too low on iodine? A bit low on vitamin D? Discarding some psychological aspects? Overoptimizing a few things? Trusting too much in some studies that are still to mainstream? Ignoring some possible benefits from animal products? Ignoring genetic issues like difficulties synthesizing some things? Not enough emphasis on the microbiome?). But overall he gets a lot ("make the salad the main dish") and his approach is based on science studies -- even if there is a risk of how you interpret limited studies and conflicting studies.
Also see Dr. Weil on lifestyle issues (like stress, sleep, music, community, and so on) as well as herbal remedies.
And see Bluezones for community level issues like sidewalks and walking clubs.
Vitamin D from some source to make up for indoor living is essential too.
Anyway, I'm writing other software right now for my wife (related to her free Working with Stories book) but I hope I can use the infrastructure (JavaScript/Dojo/Node.js/Pointrel) to use for other things like such tools. Probably would be an excellent life-extension choice by Peter Thiel to fund time for several developers to work on such FOSS software though. :-)
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
I remember Michael Jackson, in his pre-WASP era, was sleeping in oxygen-filled tent and was hoping to live till around 120 years or more.
There is nothing bad in desire itself, but it's less laughable when you brag about the actual achievement, not the super-optimistic plan.
There's nothing about being rich that keeps you from being a "nut-case".
Some people will believe anything.
In Socialism, Govt exploits your NEED.
In Capitalism, Govt exploits your GREED.
Casteism
*Facepalm* It just goes to show that being wealthy is not corollary with being intelligent.
For example, while certainly possible, a "cure for cancer in the next ten years" is wishful thinking at best, and in light of engaging in a behavior that increases cancer risk, is dangerously naive.
Another example is the fact that he's subscribing to another idiotic fad diet with absolutely no credible scientific backing, and like all fad diets (ala, any diet besides "eat a healthy, well-rounded diet and exercise") is likely to actually do more harm in both the short- and long-run than good.
"Inveniemus Viam Aut Faciemus" 'We will find a way... Or we will make one!' --Hannibal of Carthage
Somebody just read Heinlein's Time Enough For Love.
This is a fantastic idea until pirates show up. Now what have you? The plank, aye!
Background: Data on the long-term association between low-carbohydrate diets and mortality are sparse.
Objective: To examine the association of low-carbohydrate diets with mortality during 26 years of follow-up in women and 20 years in men.
Design: Prospective cohort study of women and men who were followed from 1980 (women) or 1986 (men) until 2006. Low-carbohydrate diets, either animal-based (emphasizing animal sources of fat and protein) or vegetable-based (emphasizing vegetable sources of fat and protein), were computed from several validated food-frequency questionnaires assessed during follow-up.
Setting: Nurses' Health Study and Health Professionals' Follow-up Study.
Participants: 85Â 168 women (aged 34 to 59 years at baseline) and 44Â 548 men (aged 40 to 75 years at baseline) without heart disease, cancer, or diabetes.
Measurements: Investigators documented 12Â 555 deaths (2458 cardiovascular-related and 5780 cancer-related) in women and 8678 deaths (2746 cardiovascular-related and 2960 cancer-related) in men.
Results: The overall low-carbohydrate score was associated with a modest increase in overall mortality in a pooled analysis (hazard ratio [HR] comparing extreme deciles, 1.12 [95% CI, 1.01 to 1.24]; P for trend = 0.136). The animal low-carbohydrate score was associated with higher all-cause mortality (pooled HR comparing extreme deciles, 1.23 [CI, 1.11 to 1.37]; P for trend = 0.051), cardiovascular mortality (corresponding HR, 1.14 [CI, 1.01 to 1.29]; P for trend = 0.029), and cancer mortality (corresponding HR, 1.28 [CI, 1.02 to 1.60]; P for trend = 0.089). In contrast, a higher vegetable low-carbohydrate score was associated with lower all-cause mortality (HR, 0.80 [CI, 0.75 to 0.85]; P for trend â 0.001) and cardiovascular mortality (HR, 0.77 [CI, 0.68 to 0.87]; P for trend http://annals.org/article.aspx...
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I do remember the parable about the rich man and the barns. At the risk of appearing as a dystheist or misotheist, I suggest that the text be understood as standard operating procedure of the Divine.
Remember, He has toys, therefore he has death to cheat. Stay tuned for a truly freaky accident, yes, the kind that provides overwhelming existential relevance to the existence of some Other that HATES when people reach goals that they set for themselves.
Stay poor lest the Eternal slay thee.
businesses flock to Canada because their socialized medicine is so much cheaper than America's employer based system. Germany's Unionized car manufacturing is the envy of the world. Meanwhile the UK, who implemented American style policies under Thacher, has been in a nose dive for decades. Where in the world have you been?
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It's the old "No True Scottsman" argument. At any rate what you're describing is called _communism_. You can have socialism (large scale involvement by a central power in the well being of the common man along with wealth distribution) and still have ownership. You just don't allow ownership to become power at the expense of people's well being. As soon as you do that you've just crossed over to socialism.
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Casteism
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Casteism
"You are a product of your environment." --Clement Stone
Casteism
That's really going to work well.
"I think I'll just dig myself a basement. I have the freedom to do that."
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
You ignore the fact that people live in families. Thus grandchildren have much better survivial chances when grandmother provides care for them and teaches them while still young and much healthier mother gives more births and performs heavy house work. If older women had their own kids then they would not love grandkids as much as they do. That's why humans developed menopause.
It's revolting how gleefully people cheer on disease, decrepitude, and death to destroy us all, as long as it gets the rich guy too.
Yay, Death! Get the rich guy!
You people are savages.
It will be like Mad Max, except set on the Ocean, and with Senior Citizens...