Yes, Freedom stops when you start calling it a license. Anything that has restrictions or clauses by definition should not be called free. Other than that GPL has some good points, but it craps me off when people (with good intensions) call it free. A free license is NO license!
n 2004, the management at Sun Microsystems terminated any more development on high-end processors and high-end servers. According to an article by The Register, Sun now sells re-branded Fujitsu servers as Sun's high-end servers. Fujitsu is an OEM for Sun.
Sun engineers still work on low-end multi-core processors, but Fujitsu designs and builds all of Sun's high-end processors. The processors that battle IBM's Power5 are Fujitsu SPARC64's.
The hardware division of Sun is now a shell of its former self. Sun management is seeking to close its Sunnyvale campus, which is the location of all of Sun's (former) processor development.
You only have half the story. The highend Ultra V was killed off so that Sun could focus on their Rock CPU for the highend. They have also extended their partnership with Fujitsu to develop the APL line, and to rebadge each others products. The T1, Ultra IV+ processors with their current Opeteron line show that the hardware division of going along very well.
> but will it run Linux?
Why? Does it really matter? I am sure google might look at the TCO first, and then pick what
the OS they need. It most likely come down to the cheapest and most easily scalable OS for whatever
CPU design they use. It maybe Linux, but really who gives a toss.
Maybe google likes the only open source (and GPL) CPU out there. The scary thing is that it a much better webserver/appserver than anything that intel, ibm, or AMD are putting out in the next couple of years. Don't think for a minute that google is tied to x86 code. They are a big fan of java, thus they are free to move to the platform that suits them best.
P.S. Sun Rays are extremely cool. Unfortunately on people have used thme for some time would truely understand why the PC model is crap.
India is the largest english speaking country in the world. Ok their accent maybe different to yours, but that generally is only a problem if they were in a call center.
How many people from developing country's could afford $100 US?? Yes the software initially has a zero cost, but why charge people over 1 years wages for crap (and ugly) hardware. If you put the hardware under a free license that gave the local industries the ability to make their own free hardware and software then I would think this would be a good idea. If you think "RMS free" software is a good thing
then you should thing that "free" hardware is also good.
Easy. If you call it java, then it better be java. If you want to build something which looks similar, does similar things, then just
dont call it Java. Simple! I think users (and Sun) would be upset if they ran something called java, and it wasn't.
I am not justifying the legal language used, but most legal documents use this type of language. It is not uncommon that the average punter has trouble understand it. It is always written to cover their asses, rather than yours. Dont blame Sun or IBM. Blame 100's of years of legal process.
Very few company's have the cash to take over even a depressed Sun. MS has, but I would doubt they would bother trying now they have
settled the legal differences with Sun.
Sell your soul??? Never program again??? I think you are being a bit dramatic here. Have read the license???
You have one idea of freedom (a RMS version). Other have another view. I think GPL is a restricted license. It certainly
is now where near as free as BSD. RMS is worried that there is going to be no need for gcj. I have tried it several times
and found of little use. Maybe it has gotten better in the last month?
I think RMS is Bang Off the rails.
Java under lock and key. READ THIS VERY SLOWLY - You can download the source code now. You can read the source code now. What you cannot do is pollute the source code and then call it Java.
RMS is just trying bang his self centered GNU logo in everybody's face again.
Funny, I thought most of the comments I have seen in the past on slashdot was that the development of Java was slow. From waht I see is that eithen with Sun's help the open source implementations are having trouble catching up with the java standards. Thus they cannot be called Java. This said Red Hat now has a real problem with it taking over JBoss, that it now may have to pay to license the software before they can bundle it with the software they sell. Remember the only to companys that dont licence Java are Microsoft and Red Hat. While Microsoft dont pretend, Red Hat has a big wooley jumper on at the moment and are going "bar... bar....". (For those who dont read - "Wolf in sheep clothing).
Grandmother, what big eyes you have!
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Yes, Freedom stops when you start calling it a license. Anything that has restrictions or clauses by definition should not be called free. Other than that GPL has some good points, but it craps me off when people (with good intensions) call it free. A free license is NO license!
n 2004, the management at Sun Microsystems terminated any more development on high-end processors and high-end servers. According to an article by The Register, Sun now sells re-branded Fujitsu servers as Sun's high-end servers. Fujitsu is an OEM for Sun. Sun engineers still work on low-end multi-core processors, but Fujitsu designs and builds all of Sun's high-end processors. The processors that battle IBM's Power5 are Fujitsu SPARC64's. The hardware division of Sun is now a shell of its former self. Sun management is seeking to close its Sunnyvale campus, which is the location of all of Sun's (former) processor development. You only have half the story. The highend Ultra V was killed off so that Sun could focus on their Rock CPU for the highend. They have also extended their partnership with Fujitsu to develop the APL line, and to rebadge each others products. The T1, Ultra IV+ processors with their current Opeteron line show that the hardware division of going along very well.
> but will it run Linux? Why? Does it really matter? I am sure google might look at the TCO first, and then pick what the OS they need. It most likely come down to the cheapest and most easily scalable OS for whatever CPU design they use. It maybe Linux, but really who gives a toss.
Maybe google likes the only open source (and GPL) CPU out there. The scary thing is that it a much better webserver/appserver than anything that intel, ibm, or AMD are putting out in the next couple of years. Don't think for a minute that google is tied to x86 code. They are a big fan of java, thus they are free to move to the platform that suits them best. P.S. Sun Rays are extremely cool. Unfortunately on people have used thme for some time would truely understand why the PC model is crap.
India is the largest english speaking country in the world. Ok their accent maybe different to yours, but that generally is only a problem if they were in a call center.
How many people from developing country's could afford $100 US?? Yes the software initially has a zero cost, but why charge people over 1 years wages for crap (and ugly) hardware. If you put the hardware under a free license that gave the local industries the ability to make their own free hardware and software then I would think this would be a good idea. If you think "RMS free" software is a good thing then you should thing that "free" hardware is also good.
Easy. If you call it java, then it better be java. If you want to build something which looks similar, does similar things, then just dont call it Java. Simple! I think users (and Sun) would be upset if they ran something called java, and it wasn't.
I am not justifying the legal language used, but most legal documents use this type of language. It is not uncommon that the average punter has trouble understand it. It is always written to cover their asses, rather than yours. Dont blame Sun or IBM. Blame 100's of years of legal process.
Very few company's have the cash to take over even a depressed Sun. MS has, but I would doubt they would bother trying now they have settled the legal differences with Sun.
You assume that linux is the only OS with ssh. Maybe it is windows running cygnus! You dont need root then.
Sell your soul??? Never program again??? I think you are being a bit dramatic here. Have read the license??? You have one idea of freedom (a RMS version). Other have another view. I think GPL is a restricted license. It certainly is now where near as free as BSD. RMS is worried that there is going to be no need for gcj. I have tried it several times and found of little use. Maybe it has gotten better in the last month?
I think RMS is Bang Off the rails. Java under lock and key. READ THIS VERY SLOWLY - You can download the source code now. You can read the source code now. What you cannot do is pollute the source code and then call it Java. RMS is just trying bang his self centered GNU logo in everybody's face again.
Funny, I thought most of the comments I have seen in the past on slashdot was that the development of Java was slow. From waht I see is that eithen with Sun's help the open source implementations are having trouble catching up with the java standards. Thus they cannot be called Java. This said Red Hat now has a real problem with it taking over JBoss, that it now may have to pay to license the software before they can bundle it with the software they sell. Remember the only to companys that dont licence Java are Microsoft and Red Hat. While Microsoft dont pretend, Red Hat has a big wooley jumper on at the moment and are going "bar... bar....". (For those who dont read - "Wolf in sheep clothing). Grandmother, what big eyes you have!