Yeah, javascript isn't too bad. Looking at the syntax for html/xhtml makes me want to vomit though. No sane programmer today would design a markup language that remotely resembles it. Random example: (input type="checkbox" checked="checked"/)
Why in the fuck would you have a string? I assume it isn't a string deep down but that doesn't really help the code itself. Another example could be things having names, IDs, classes seems amazingly redundant. Then there is anything to do with tables. And formatting has tons of stupid quirks. Only way it dodges being the worst language ever is the fact that it isn't really a language.
"Lets not have the ability to hide or move objects"
Could be CSS...
But yeah, I totally agree with you. The javascript hate probably isn't coming from people that have done web development. PHP is nice but there is a reason why pretty much everyone uses javascript AND php. Were javascript useless everyone would drop it, it would be silly to bother learning it and php.
UK/Japan moved to meet targets... UK did meet them actually. US is the only country on the planet that has not only turned down the kyoto protocol but seems annoyed at the idea that they should do anything. (I do realize lots of people failed at meeting the goals but at least they want to try)
"radically restructure the global economy, expand government at the expense of freedom"
erm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma No one is saying we need to change the world radically. Our daily lives wouldn't change that much. In fact the cost that the scientists have worked out isn't that harsh really. Germany for example has had a 23% reduction since 1990... They aren't a fascist wasteland from the effort, really they aren't much changed at all. Many other countries have had large reductions since 1990, England and Greece I heard did well... The radical bit is the fear of what will happen if we put things off too long. A 20 year delay will likely multiply costs in orders of magnitude.
There is no group that wants to mess up the environment and everyone thinks it important however there are many groups who's priorities favour Profit so much so that they can comfortably rationalize or completely miss any GCC data that comes by them.
As attractive as your sentiment is..."in these days of conservative vs. liberal sound-bite-bashing, it's impossible to discuss any complex solutions."
I am not too certain about the conclusion. People offer tons of degrees of options. And while I have heard "environmentalists are total frauds, burn all the oil you want" before I certainly haven't heard anyone suggesting a fascist state. And I've definitely heard tons of options in the in between. So either you are trying to mislead or you are a little too wrapped up by the left vs right fighting.
For sure! I mean this is clearly useful tech. BUUUUT saying death of Hollywood is horribly wrong. I mean... other countries hardly even bite into Hollywood. While budgets might be overblown... You can't do for >1000$ what studios do with 200million dollars PLUS. That's a pretty fucking big gap.
Awesome, All I need to recreate Starwars now is to visit the nearest starport and record a video of a TIE fighter with my phone and I'll be good... Oh wait!
I hope they do find it. Simply because it has public interest. On/. everyone gets that if it isn't found that would be GOOD science. The general populace will be like BOOO science sucks, it never gives any answers, I love jeeebus. Scientists wrong again. And honestly? I'd much rather have something called the GOD-particle proven true just to have another 'Science, it works bitches' moment.
Could just blow it into the air like coal plants.... That or you know use up all the fuel. Only the shitty plants in the US have radioactive waste problems. France, Canada and China seem to get by fine creating little no radioactive waste. Nice FUD.
"5-15 years when it goes from laboratory process to initial commercial production... and another 10 for large-scale usage."
Probably not what you were thinking entirely. But, I hate that we have no ability to invest in a future. Sometimes I think that countries like China will surpass the US not because of money... well that too. But because they aren't up for election every 4 years, more tech will get invested in.
Anyways back on topic. People suck balls at doing cost benefit analysis when it comes to human lives. A lot of people think it is uncouth to assign a life a number value so we pretty much pick values at random. http://www.cbe.wwu.edu/Krieg/Econ.%20Documents/1603902-00.jpg is one example, look at the asbestos banning hilarity. Other examples are air quality or health insurance. Where human lives drop under 50k. Or we could callously wander around the globe and see that lives are worth like 9$ a pop. You might not care a shit ton about other countries people but when the ratio is several thousand of them to one of you it becomes harder to tell them to piss off and feel ok. My apologies for my socialist thoughts w/e.
You have to think about the costs of Not over treating swine flu. Really it was the media that screwed us on the pricetag. If the gov didn't spend billions on the swine flu hilarity there would be mass panics, riots, politicians would hang. There'd be con-men on the street selling sugar pills that fixed swine flu. Think about this. The US didn't use adjuvants in the swine vaccine they spread. I would have been WAY cheaper and MORE effective. But the paranoid ignorant masses thought it killed baby jesus or w/e. So it wasn't used. Why would they use it. The theater idea "Give the people what they want and they will love you for it" applies fully to politics (I believe the quote is from the gladiator movie). And I don't blame politicians for it. Why should they give up power and control to their rivals because the masses are stupid? Better to burn a billion dollars. The impression of control for the people is worth the cost.
Man, I thought it was closer than that, my bad. My point about everyone voting by party not whoever their local person is still stands mind.
If ridings didn't exist and things were proportional then it wouldn't be local..... And it wouldn't matter what district you were in, you could vote for whoever you wanted and have a pretty good shot at getting represented... Unless your party of choice got NO seats.
But yeah MMP would allow people to do better in federal and local elections. I do however think that were MMP to pass most people would care about the federal election and the local election would turn out much the same as it is today. People not knowing who any of the candidates are and voting with w/e party they can relate to. Perhaps though local reps would be advertising themselves rather than the party and we could see some meaningful local politics.
I'm sure i've made it abundantly obvious w/ what ever mistakes i've made already... But i'm a poli-philo guy NOT a government/poli-sci type.
They have both written down. Canada is in a bit of a crossroads though... With Ontario nearly passing proportional representation, which would have killed the local thing. I don't know a single person that gives a flying fuck about the local guy, vs the federal government. A bit different from the US where you guys seem addicted to the union idea, we think of ourselves as a country so its less of a big deal.
Also, the internet is slightly bigger than school is... If my school were big enough to not chance seeing my bullies for likely years at a time I'd be less worried.
I'd like to add... "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.
I'm sure that the vast majority of/.ers have had bullying issues when they were young. Which parts sucked?
- getting beat up.
- fear, fairly constant.
- getting treated by a leper by your peers as a whole.
- extreme public humiliation.
None of these are possible online. So this has nothing to do with bullying. For sexual predators? Maybe 1/100 kids might have a case throughout their live where charges could possibly be leveled but even then i still doubt it'll be that high. The average kid will likely hit the button tons of times. The cost will be hilariously high.
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Yeah, javascript isn't too bad. Looking at the syntax for html/xhtml makes me want to vomit though. No sane programmer today would design a markup language that remotely resembles it. /)
Random example: (input type="checkbox" checked="checked"
Why in the fuck would you have a string? I assume it isn't a string deep down but that doesn't really help the code itself. Another example could be things having names, IDs, classes seems amazingly redundant. Then there is anything to do with tables. And formatting has tons of stupid quirks. Only way it dodges being the worst language ever is the fact that it isn't really a language.
"Lets not have the ability to hide or move objects"
Could be CSS...
But yeah, I totally agree with you. The javascript hate probably isn't coming from people that have done web development. PHP is nice but there is a reason why pretty much everyone uses javascript AND php. Were javascript useless everyone would drop it, it would be silly to bother learning it and php.
Pffft engineering isn't science.
Yet my grandfather bought a mainframe for his tile distributor and it saved him tons of money.
Reminds me of... "Its not the size it's how you use it."
That's not a straw man that is a false dilemma:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
Strawman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
UK/Japan moved to meet targets... UK did meet them actually. US is the only country on the planet that has not only turned down the kyoto protocol but seems annoyed at the idea that they should do anything. (I do realize lots of people failed at meeting the goals but at least they want to try)
"radically restructure the global economy, expand government at the expense of freedom"
erm... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
No one is saying we need to change the world radically. Our daily lives wouldn't change that much. In fact the cost that the scientists have worked out isn't that harsh really. Germany for example has had a 23% reduction since 1990... They aren't a fascist wasteland from the effort, really they aren't much changed at all. Many other countries have had large reductions since 1990, England and Greece I heard did well... The radical bit is the fear of what will happen if we put things off too long. A 20 year delay will likely multiply costs in orders of magnitude.
Combining both of your arguments...
There is no group that wants to mess up the environment and everyone thinks it important however there are many groups who's priorities favour Profit so much so that they can comfortably rationalize or completely miss any GCC data that comes by them.
As attractive as your sentiment is ..."in these days of conservative vs. liberal sound-bite-bashing, it's impossible to discuss any complex solutions."
I am not too certain about the conclusion. People offer tons of degrees of options. And while I have heard "environmentalists are total frauds, burn all the oil you want" before I certainly haven't heard anyone suggesting a fascist state. And I've definitely heard tons of options in the in between. So either you are trying to mislead or you are a little too wrapped up by the left vs right fighting.
Hollywood != B-films
For sure! I mean this is clearly useful tech. BUUUUT saying death of Hollywood is horribly wrong. I mean... other countries hardly even bite into Hollywood. While budgets might be overblown... You can't do for >1000$ what studios do with 200million dollars PLUS. That's a pretty fucking big gap.
Awesome, All I need to recreate Starwars now is to visit the nearest starport and record a video of a TIE fighter with my phone and I'll be good... Oh wait!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_wiring_(United_States) ?
I hope they do find it. Simply because it has public interest. On /. everyone gets that if it isn't found that would be GOOD science. The general populace will be like BOOO science sucks, it never gives any answers, I love jeeebus. Scientists wrong again. And honestly? I'd much rather have something called the GOD-particle proven true just to have another 'Science, it works bitches' moment.
Could just blow it into the air like coal plants.... That or you know use up all the fuel. Only the shitty plants in the US have radioactive waste problems. France, Canada and China seem to get by fine creating little no radioactive waste. Nice FUD.
"5-15 years when it goes from laboratory process to initial commercial production ... and another 10 for large-scale usage."
Probably not what you were thinking entirely. But, I hate that we have no ability to invest in a future. Sometimes I think that countries like China will surpass the US not because of money... well that too. But because they aren't up for election every 4 years, more tech will get invested in.
Anyways back on topic. People suck balls at doing cost benefit analysis when it comes to human lives. A lot of people think it is uncouth to assign a life a number value so we pretty much pick values at random. http://www.cbe.wwu.edu/Krieg/Econ.%20Documents/1603902-00.jpg is one example, look at the asbestos banning hilarity. Other examples are air quality or health insurance. Where human lives drop under 50k. Or we could callously wander around the globe and see that lives are worth like 9$ a pop. You might not care a shit ton about other countries people but when the ratio is several thousand of them to one of you it becomes harder to tell them to piss off and feel ok. My apologies for my socialist thoughts w/e.
You have to think about the costs of Not over treating swine flu. Really it was the media that screwed us on the pricetag. If the gov didn't spend billions on the swine flu hilarity there would be mass panics, riots, politicians would hang. There'd be con-men on the street selling sugar pills that fixed swine flu. Think about this. The US didn't use adjuvants in the swine vaccine they spread. I would have been WAY cheaper and MORE effective. But the paranoid ignorant masses thought it killed baby jesus or w/e. So it wasn't used. Why would they use it. The theater idea "Give the people what they want and they will love you for it" applies fully to politics (I believe the quote is from the gladiator movie). And I don't blame politicians for it. Why should they give up power and control to their rivals because the masses are stupid? Better to burn a billion dollars. The impression of control for the people is worth the cost.
Well with the new shell ui I'd side with KDE too.
Half the 'virus removal to speed up computers' that I've done is simply uninstalling norton to free up 2/3rds of the ram and processsor.
There were far more bush monkey pics i'm sure. Though he had the looks AND the brains so I dunno..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
Man, I thought it was closer than that, my bad. My point about everyone voting by party not whoever their local person is still stands mind.
If ridings didn't exist and things were proportional then it wouldn't be local..... And it wouldn't matter what district you were in, you could vote for whoever you wanted and have a pretty good shot at getting represented... Unless your party of choice got NO seats.
But yeah MMP would allow people to do better in federal and local elections. I do however think that were MMP to pass most people would care about the federal election and the local election would turn out much the same as it is today. People not knowing who any of the candidates are and voting with w/e party they can relate to. Perhaps though local reps would be advertising themselves rather than the party and we could see some meaningful local politics.
I'm sure i've made it abundantly obvious w/ what ever mistakes i've made already... But i'm a poli-philo guy NOT a government/poli-sci type.
They have both written down. Canada is in a bit of a crossroads though... With Ontario nearly passing proportional representation, which would have killed the local thing. I don't know a single person that gives a flying fuck about the local guy, vs the federal government. A bit different from the US where you guys seem addicted to the union idea, we think of ourselves as a country so its less of a big deal.
Reminds me of the pentagon crash video which took them like 3years to rerelease, and they did it in a different format than the camera. lul
Also, the internet is slightly bigger than school is... If my school were big enough to not chance seeing my bullies for likely years at a time I'd be less worried.
I'd like to add... "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.
I'm sure that the vast majority of /.ers have had bullying issues when they were young. Which parts sucked?
- getting beat up.
- fear, fairly constant.
- getting treated by a leper by your peers as a whole.
- extreme public humiliation.
None of these are possible online. So this has nothing to do with bullying. For sexual predators? Maybe 1/100 kids might have a case throughout their live where charges could possibly be leveled but even then i still doubt it'll be that high. The average kid will likely hit the button tons of times. The cost will be hilariously high.