I DO pay for the amount of bandwidth I use. But following your analogy. They want to be able to choose how much I pay based on who I am going to visit. Driving to our affiliates? That's free. Driving to our competition? That'll be 100$ and we'll reroute you through weird country roads that will end you in a swamp.
You could always encode it in binary and type it out in ascii... I just wasted like a full minute deciding how I would do that. Morse code can be written as base 3 then converted (since length has meaning) which takes a full byte per character... Or you could use a bitflag to denote the length for the 1st 4 bits and the have the -,. in binary for the last 4 bits. Which still takes a full byte but conveys more readable information.
From that site: "The cost of a complete system is 200 to 400 USD. The exact figure depends a lot on where you buy parts from, and whether you buy or make your own electrodes."
I'll take the one made in a factory ty very much. Nice thing is that these devices are (oddly enough) fairly simple. So even if they give us nothing making OSS/drivers off of the emotive device will probably not be a big problem.
Industrialized first world rich people pollute more. To set a cap that gives no credence to population is to ask Chinese citizens to not enter the 1st world. China and India are moving from 3rd to 1st world millions of people at a time, their GDP is rising at an incredible rate. With this money they are buying houses and TVs. Those bastards wishing to have a similar standard of living to one we are accustomed to.
China WILL be held to a standard as they catch up to the rest of us. I think a CO2 standard system based on population/GDP could have been applied across the board without too much difficulty. But instead they broke things merely into countries which is as I said a meaningless measure.
Yeah, what's new. Politics is always taking a shit on science. Maybe we should implement some sort of guild system for science. No access to inventions unless you can pass a handful of logic and science tests. I'm sure they'd all die off over a hundred years or so. Yeah evil and stupid I know, I'm just tired (IRL and of people shitting on science/technology this past few days)
Maybe so but as that number shifts as they want it to and as any fair person would want it to then the amount of CO2 they will be producing will be going up. It is absolutely unfair to set their CO2 cap based on their current situation rather than a per capita type cap. Perhaps a percapita/perGDP type combination cap would be more accurate. The idea that we should measure all countries as equals regardless of size or population or growth or climate is just silly.
Agreed! "She seemed quite unaware that there was even a war occurring in Africa at the time... several in fact."
What disturbed me was that she wasn't aware. And I did it as much for the knowledge of the school as for her. I wasn't taking it as an opportunity to embarrass her, never met the woman before had no reason to have a grudge. I'm not certain my motives were quite so clear to those in the audience, the apparently were not to those on/..
And yes, I was outraged that she didn't know, but it wasn't entirely directed at her, more society generally.
Anyways thanks for calling me on the race comment. I'm quite embarrassed by that choice of word.
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Good to hear! I mostly checked because I don't think I've seen any site use CSS in the way it was intended for blind people with a seperate css for the blind (Not that I really look).
"We also understand that our target demographic is not the totally blind gamer..." You should think about it, I doubt it'd be too difficult and I'm sure they'd appreciate the effort. Totally blind gamers are hardcore. I've tried some games for blind people and they are harsh!
Yeah, the black comment was uncalled for. The school was in a fairly racist area (the adults not the kids)... our school had 1 black kid and 700students+. So it was more of a racial issue for that particular group. And I agree. Above I said I thought it was about being poor but that isn't quite right, your explanation is better. Poor people have little effect in trade and rarely are a problem militarily. They aren't a group we have to deal with which is really what it is about. A whole continent swept under the rug is quite impressive mind you.
Remembrance day is a day to remember the horrific events. And to provide safeguards to make sure nothing like it ever repeats itself again. The fact that she didn't point out that it WAS happening as she spoke was disturbing. Focusing on a past event is fine and all but if the goal is to stop it I think it would be nice to at least MENTION that it is going on.
"Millions of Jews died in the Holocaust. Millions of Africans died and are dying in wars and genocides. How can you say one atrocity is worse than the other"
The one in Africa is clearly worse at the moment according to the metric of killings we can do anything about.
Sweeping generalizations in a recollection of the one person I spoke out against back in middle school?.... I don't know that I could have been more pointed.
Good to know they have a section for current atrocities though.
Actually my position is that we don't care so much about poor people. I was upset when i used the word black my bad. And I jumped to the statement a bit fast. I think you over reacted too:P I don't think anything like that. I think people that vote for republicans might correlate with being racist maybe but I don't think it controls people's voting. And I certainly wouldn't play the race card over elections lol.
People keep saying China and India are big polluters but that is TOTAL BS.
The metric we use is garbage. China has 1.3billion people, US -.3billion, India - 1.1billion. Why in the fuck are we comparing countries as equals for CO2 output? It makes no fucking sense at all. The average Chinese citizen emits less than one-sixth that of the average American. For Indians, the per capita amount is only six percent of the average American. SIX PERCENT and they are called big polluters, fucking ridiculous.
They don't seem to have a very accessible website. Quick glance of their code didn't show any css for the blind. And the big sliding image thing in the middle doesn't look very accessible either.
Pretty sure you could make the paragraph a link to nothing then have the clicked style be hidden. Never tried though. I mean use the right tool for the job. I was being difficult when I said you CAN do it with css.
Ninjas could never have a PUBLIC stock exchange. I'm sure they have a private stock exchange, just one that you will never hear of and if you did they'd have to kill you.
400,000 dead sounds like they are making an effort.... Gotta love how informed people are when it comes to black people dying compared to other people dying.:/
Reminds me of rememberance day when I was in middle school. A jewish ex POW or somesuch came to my school to talk about the horrors in assembly. She said remembrance day was to make sure we never had such ethnic slaughters again, to remember never forget. I asked her why she hadn't even mentioned the millions of people currently dieing in Africa in similar or worse conditions than her own people. She seemed quite unaware that there was even a war occurring in Africa at the time... several in fact. And _I_ got a trip to the principals office for that. People suck.
Oh agreed, my brain was -1 offtopic. I was thinking about for things in the browser. I pretty much feel that any javascript longer than a page or two is just wrong and should be done another way. PHP seems to survive expansion pretty well, AND its not as terrible if you need to port it.
Anyways, programs in any language will end up being hell in any language you write them in if you have a natural growth like that. At best if we are thinking it might expand when we write it maybe we can compartmentalize it a bit, that's about it.
"checked" could still have been 0/1 even as a string, having a whole word seems longwinded, it isn't like web designers don't know what boolean is.
I like xhtml, it helps... I just wish they made it a little bit more geared towards programmers rather than ordinary joes. And didn't feel like they had to follow html, seems redundant since it is really just strict html. And there are still issues in implementation anyways... but that'd be IEs fault.
ID could have been reused for names automatically with no issues. IDs have no real requirement to be unique, could have had them replace classes as well with no issues. Perhaps allow for multiple IDs even (more like tags).
Point taken on tables, I still think htmls implementation is extra borked, the way css styles are applied is strange though that may be css' fault.
Agreed, html isn't to be used for formatting or so the theory goes but it is available... And people use it. Unless webpages are all div/span tags with a link to the css then people are using html for formatting. (yes, even header tags count since they change font sizes)
However, the cost of installing these systems is often costly. Since pipes obviously cost much more than water. For a good example we can look on a smaller scale. Many houses and buildings built 50+ years ago had cast iron radiators. We don't use them anymore because they are expensive as fuck to install and maintenance is more expensive. But overall efficiency is similar and in some cases better than present day systems.
So I would guess it is a system already in place from older times. That or it is in a situation where it is still worth it over newer tech.
It isn't meant for huge projects. I thought/. was all about the right tool for the job? With javaSCRIPT I can paste a bit of code into my awesomebar and run it... hell I can save it as a bookmark... I can insert it randomly into the middle of some html. I can in very few words get something to occur (tinytiny code overhead).
The last point just looks like javascript has a bug lol. And that's pretty pathetic.
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I DO pay for the amount of bandwidth I use. But following your analogy. They want to be able to choose how much I pay based on who I am going to visit. Driving to our affiliates? That's free. Driving to our competition? That'll be 100$ and we'll reroute you through weird country roads that will end you in a swamp.
You could always encode it in binary and type it out in ascii... I just wasted like a full minute deciding how I would do that. Morse code can be written as base 3 then converted (since length has meaning) which takes a full byte per character... Or you could use a bitflag to denote the length for the 1st 4 bits and the have the -,. in binary for the last 4 bits. Which still takes a full byte but conveys more readable information.
From that site: "The cost of a complete system is 200 to 400 USD. The exact figure depends a lot on where you buy parts from, and whether you buy or make your own electrodes."
I'll take the one made in a factory ty very much. Nice thing is that these devices are (oddly enough) fairly simple. So even if they give us nothing making OSS/drivers off of the emotive device will probably not be a big problem.
Industrialized first world rich people pollute more. To set a cap that gives no credence to population is to ask Chinese citizens to not enter the 1st world. China and India are moving from 3rd to 1st world millions of people at a time, their GDP is rising at an incredible rate. With this money they are buying houses and TVs. Those bastards wishing to have a similar standard of living to one we are accustomed to.
China WILL be held to a standard as they catch up to the rest of us. I think a CO2 standard system based on population/GDP could have been applied across the board without too much difficulty. But instead they broke things merely into countries which is as I said a meaningless measure.
Yeah, what's new. Politics is always taking a shit on science. Maybe we should implement some sort of guild system for science. No access to inventions unless you can pass a handful of logic and science tests. I'm sure they'd all die off over a hundred years or so. Yeah evil and stupid I know, I'm just tired (IRL and of people shitting on science/technology this past few days)
Maybe so but as that number shifts as they want it to and as any fair person would want it to then the amount of CO2 they will be producing will be going up. It is absolutely unfair to set their CO2 cap based on their current situation rather than a per capita type cap. Perhaps a percapita/perGDP type combination cap would be more accurate. The idea that we should measure all countries as equals regardless of size or population or growth or climate is just silly.
I didn't say the guy wasn't a wad. Just that it was an ad hominem attack.
Agreed! "She seemed quite unaware that there was even a war occurring in Africa at the time... several in fact."
/..
/. but it is a rare occurrence on the internet for people to move from a disagreement to an understanding. That doesn't sound like much of an accomplishment but if you look around it really is rare.
What disturbed me was that she wasn't aware. And I did it as much for the knowledge of the school as for her. I wasn't taking it as an opportunity to embarrass her, never met the woman before had no reason to have a grudge. I'm not certain my motives were quite so clear to those in the audience, the apparently were not to those on
And yes, I was outraged that she didn't know, but it wasn't entirely directed at her, more society generally.
Anyways thanks for calling me on the race comment. I'm quite embarrassed by that choice of word.
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Good to hear! I mostly checked because I don't think I've seen any site use CSS in the way it was intended for blind people with a seperate css for the blind (Not that I really look).
"We also understand that our target demographic is not the totally blind gamer..."
You should think about it, I doubt it'd be too difficult and I'm sure they'd appreciate the effort. Totally blind gamers are hardcore. I've tried some games for blind people and they are harsh!
Yeah, the black comment was uncalled for. The school was in a fairly racist area (the adults not the kids)... our school had 1 black kid and 700students+. So it was more of a racial issue for that particular group. And I agree. Above I said I thought it was about being poor but that isn't quite right, your explanation is better. Poor people have little effect in trade and rarely are a problem militarily. They aren't a group we have to deal with which is really what it is about. A whole continent swept under the rug is quite impressive mind you.
Sorry, race comment was spurious of me.
Remembrance day is a day to remember the horrific events. And to provide safeguards to make sure nothing like it ever repeats itself again. The fact that she didn't point out that it WAS happening as she spoke was disturbing. Focusing on a past event is fine and all but if the goal is to stop it I think it would be nice to at least MENTION that it is going on.
"Millions of Jews died in the Holocaust. Millions of Africans died and are dying in wars and genocides. How can you say one atrocity is worse than the other"
The one in Africa is clearly worse at the moment according to the metric of killings we can do anything about.
Sweeping generalizations in a recollection of the one person I spoke out against back in middle school? .... I don't know that I could have been more pointed.
Good to know they have a section for current atrocities though.
Actually my position is that we don't care so much about poor people. I was upset when i used the word black my bad. And I jumped to the statement a bit fast. I think you over reacted too :P I don't think anything like that. I think people that vote for republicans might correlate with being racist maybe but I don't think it controls people's voting. And I certainly wouldn't play the race card over elections lol.
20years is few?
That money isn't for climate research, it is for ALL environmental research, including tons on sustainable practices and conservation stuff. http://cordis.europa.eu/fp7/environment/about-env_en.html#what
You know what, [citation needed] for your whole damn post.
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.3billion, India - 1.1billion. Why in the fuck are we comparing countries as equals for CO2 output? It makes no fucking sense at all. The average Chinese citizen emits less than one-sixth that of the average American. For Indians, the per capita amount is only six percent of the average American. SIX PERCENT and they are called big polluters, fucking ridiculous.
People keep saying China and India are big polluters but that is TOTAL BS.
The metric we use is garbage. China has 1.3billion people, US -
Does the source matter? There are plenty of citations and links to raw data. Attacking the source seems like it might be a bit pathetic.
They don't seem to have a very accessible website. Quick glance of their code didn't show any css for the blind. And the big sliding image thing in the middle doesn't look very accessible either.
Pretty sure you could make the paragraph a link to nothing then have the clicked style be hidden. Never tried though. I mean use the right tool for the job. I was being difficult when I said you CAN do it with css.
Ninjas could never have a PUBLIC stock exchange. I'm sure they have a private stock exchange, just one that you will never hear of and if you did they'd have to kill you.
"Why don't they turn all of those AK-47s and RPGs on the warlords?"
:/
They do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Civil_War
400,000 dead sounds like they are making an effort.... Gotta love how informed people are when it comes to black people dying compared to other people dying.
Reminds me of rememberance day when I was in middle school. A jewish ex POW or somesuch came to my school to talk about the horrors in assembly. She said remembrance day was to make sure we never had such ethnic slaughters again, to remember never forget. I asked her why she hadn't even mentioned the millions of people currently dieing in Africa in similar or worse conditions than her own people. She seemed quite unaware that there was even a war occurring in Africa at the time... several in fact. And _I_ got a trip to the principals office for that. People suck.
Oh agreed, my brain was -1 offtopic. I was thinking about for things in the browser. I pretty much feel that any javascript longer than a page or two is just wrong and should be done another way. PHP seems to survive expansion pretty well, AND its not as terrible if you need to port it.
Anyways, programs in any language will end up being hell in any language you write them in if you have a natural growth like that. At best if we are thinking it might expand when we write it maybe we can compartmentalize it a bit, that's about it.
Oh, I like xml...
"checked" could still have been 0/1 even as a string, having a whole word seems longwinded, it isn't like web designers don't know what boolean is.
I like xhtml, it helps... I just wish they made it a little bit more geared towards programmers rather than ordinary joes. And didn't feel like they had to follow html, seems redundant since it is really just strict html. And there are still issues in implementation anyways... but that'd be IEs fault.
ID could have been reused for names automatically with no issues. IDs have no real requirement to be unique, could have had them replace classes as well with no issues. Perhaps allow for multiple IDs even (more like tags).
Point taken on tables, I still think htmls implementation is extra borked, the way css styles are applied is strange though that may be css' fault.
Agreed, html isn't to be used for formatting or so the theory goes but it is available... And people use it. Unless webpages are all div/span tags with a link to the css then people are using html for formatting. (yes, even header tags count since they change font sizes)
He just said hide/move ... didn't say fade...
It is actually decently efficient.
However, the cost of installing these systems is often costly. Since pipes obviously cost much more than water. For a good example we can look on a smaller scale. Many houses and buildings built 50+ years ago had cast iron radiators. We don't use them anymore because they are expensive as fuck to install and maintenance is more expensive. But overall efficiency is similar and in some cases better than present day systems.
So I would guess it is a system already in place from older times. That or it is in a situation where it is still worth it over newer tech.
It isn't meant for huge projects. I thought /. was all about the right tool for the job? With javaSCRIPT I can paste a bit of code into my awesomebar and run it... hell I can save it as a bookmark... I can insert it randomly into the middle of some html. I can in very few words get something to occur (tinytiny code overhead).
The last point just looks like javascript has a bug lol. And that's pretty pathetic.
You forgot "get off my lawn"
Seriously, that isn't what the web is anymore, deal with it. Nothing at all to do with javascript.