Wouldn't that kind of showdown produce the worst dystopian martial law we've ever seen? You and the other poster who mentioned Egypt make great points, and I'll plead I Am Not A Foreign Affairs Guy. But for ten years now US Gov has been darn near picking a fight. So not even a month would be enough. Elsewhere, I said 60's protests don't work, because those are within the normal context. Your post actually comes thunderingly close to a fulfillment of 2012 doomsday if we really totally overthrew US Gov - or tried and missed.
Nice reply, and I'll save that as info for part 4 of my sig theme. To answer the posts below, let's assume it's planned smartly with the help of a lawyer, so that no low-level technicalities can trash all that org. work. Nice also to say that ammo (including DDOS?) isn't needed, because it gives them cheap escape hatches.
I think 250,000 flawlessly behaved demonstrators would be formidable fun to watch.
"Also, maybe the supreme doesn't want to say "hello"."
Oops. You stumbled into what I call the division by zero effect of classical religion. YHVH/Allah 'loves' you! Of course He'd want to say hello? Right? Or do we have 2500 years of emotional sunk cost we can't bear to dispense with?
I chuckle a little at an anti-social supreme being that likes to play nasty games and obfuscates his presence. It makes for funny literature, but it would be downright creepy.
"Free as in Beer" is becoming expensive these days! If we're going to agree we're now discussing Facebook as the metagame to adapt around, then we can't just give them a free pass to boot the user but keep all his nice crispy data they gathered for their ads.
Just for a moment let's give the public a mite more credit. I peg them at "we're upset but what can we really do?"
60's style protests don't work anymore. The tempo is wrong - Gov makes a 3/4 concession, keeps 1/4 of the evil, then slides a nasty twist on their concession as a dessert. Thing is, there's no "timeline" on this one - there's no "are we done yet" to know when we can do the 50's period of recovery. It's a thundering case of cabin fever where we all go crazy.
There is to a point evidence against the existence of a Supreme Being, in that trying to find it plays havoc with Occam's Razor. "An undetectable supreme being that can't say hello? Really?!"
I've heard the Ant analogy, etc. Right, we can't exactly talk to ants, but you can get them to notice a huge chunk of melting chocolate you thunk down.
And remember, unlike ants, we're *starting* with *our* brainpower... and the supreme guy can't do anything at all that creates a noticeable event? Not even morse code?
I'll say there's a more dangerous problem, in that in small towns that many "family clan members" can threaten to be a 1-family posse that can totally own local politics and matters.
"In this new Sony Biotech Update, all users who previously used to Run have been downgraded to Walk. No apologies have been issued to any members of the Special Olympics."
Big Oil has discouraged disruptive innovation for decades now. Electric Cars face the Linux problem of barriers to mindshare until.gov decides to ditch the favorable deals Big Oil worked out in the 70's and 80's.
I haven't yet seen the principle that for a true groundswell of a phenomenon, you need a huge swath of "low end users" Just Doing Stuff. Then the experts could float on top pushing the edge.
I saw layout as a necessary evil to get a structure for information. I'm no Developer, so I only need to be a 1-trick guy if it "the consensus" says it works. Count me in the class of people who want to Just Do Stuff.
Taking the long view, we're just about to see the Decline and Fall of Flash. So I'm glad I never bothered with it. I hope my 1-trick for the next decade is to learn simple HTML 5 (in whatever state it ends up middle of the road).
Classical Religion contains logical paradoxes that would make any logician proud.
If you "believe in God" then it is exceedingly difficult to try to disregard fragments of the Bible in the modern style of "Oh, that doesn't apply." (Never mind it's the same technique the Christians themselves used.)
God is a Division by Zero effect. For some reason this supreme being can't figure out how to say hello to us. Without the most basic confirmation of rationality, everything else becomes a Non-Euclidian demonstration in... something.
What to do with all that grand theology? It does hold together, in its own world, just like when they first worked on Hyperbolic Geometry. " IF you had a God who did this and this and this, then all this neat stuff would apply."
Recently, with the exact same plan, Hulu suddenly seems a lot slower. I just recently had to start buffering the show again starting about a month ago, but all I can tell is my line is the same it has been. I don't know if there's advanced throttling going on to support the whole Hulu Plus push.
Combo-Expert gamers needed to vet this stuff! (My own viewpoint comes from a MTG background, but I'll accept MMO/other analogies as well.) We keep getting these weird little pieces of trouble, and the media seems to deliberately ignore the effect of batching them up.
Remember last month's entry that someone wanted Facebook to be the Gateway to the Web?
Really, what we have is a giant case of world wide Cabin Fever, that effect that used to drive people into crazy things from lack of perspective. Except because through the net we're "all staring at each other", it's structurally here until some watershed event changes our take on things.
I'd consider "private" comments behind logins and passwords and invite-only friends lists to be "private". I'd think it is the same category as when you're not supposed to be recording people's phone calls - Facebook is succeeding getting people to "open up" because it's "private".
If courts are going to go all miranda on your "private" posts, then there's another ratchet in the big engine of the police state.
This is a personal device worn on the body that manages one's personal space. If the user desires intimate contact, the setting would be set to 0-distance tolerated. However, if during the act she decides she no longer consents, she can toggle the setting so that further close proximity creates a warning."
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Wouldn't that kind of showdown produce the worst dystopian martial law we've ever seen? You and the other poster who mentioned Egypt make great points, and I'll plead I Am Not A Foreign Affairs Guy. But for ten years now US Gov has been darn near picking a fight. So not even a month would be enough. Elsewhere, I said 60's protests don't work, because those are within the normal context. Your post actually comes thunderingly close to a fulfillment of 2012 doomsday if we really totally overthrew US Gov - or tried and missed.
Nice reply, and I'll save that as info for part 4 of my sig theme. To answer the posts below, let's assume it's planned smartly with the help of a lawyer, so that no low-level technicalities can trash all that org. work. Nice also to say that ammo (including DDOS?) isn't needed, because it gives them cheap escape hatches.
I think 250,000 flawlessly behaved demonstrators would be formidable fun to watch.
Again that runs into the problems. He exists in a completely untraceable realm ... where prayers get through but science can't?!
"Also, maybe the supreme doesn't want to say "hello"."
Oops. You stumbled into what I call the division by zero effect of classical religion. YHVH/Allah 'loves' you! Of course He'd want to say hello? Right? Or do we have 2500 years of emotional sunk cost we can't bear to dispense with?
I chuckle a little at an anti-social supreme being that likes to play nasty games and obfuscates his presence. It makes for funny literature, but it would be downright creepy.
Sure, so help me out - what's the nifty new term for non-cash value trades?
"Free as in Beer" is becoming expensive these days! If we're going to agree we're now discussing Facebook as the metagame to adapt around, then we can't just give them a free pass to boot the user but keep all his nice crispy data they gathered for their ads.
Just for a moment let's give the public a mite more credit. I peg them at "we're upset but what can we really do?"
60's style protests don't work anymore. The tempo is wrong - Gov makes a 3/4 concession, keeps 1/4 of the evil, then slides a nasty twist on their concession as a dessert. Thing is, there's no "timeline" on this one - there's no "are we done yet" to know when we can do the 50's period of recovery. It's a thundering case of cabin fever where we all go crazy.
There is to a point evidence against the existence of a Supreme Being, in that trying to find it plays havoc with Occam's Razor. "An undetectable supreme being that can't say hello? Really?!"
I've heard the Ant analogy, etc. Right, we can't exactly talk to ants, but you can get them to notice a huge chunk of melting chocolate you thunk down.
And remember, unlike ants, we're *starting* with *our* brainpower... and the supreme guy can't do anything at all that creates a noticeable event? Not even morse code?
I'll say there's a more dangerous problem, in that in small towns that many "family clan members" can threaten to be a 1-family posse that can totally own local politics and matters.
This.
For all the people who think the timing will sink the bill, there's people in power sayin' "Neat, look at how much fun that Egypt guy is having!"
That's an odd tone in your post. Censorship is an event. Trying to smush it away by saying "it's only one word" is some kind of red herring.
After all, if they are going to pick one word, it is an odd choice to pick "Egypt". I'd think "Freedom" would be more dangerous.
"In this new Sony Biotech Update, all users who previously used to Run have been downgraded to Walk. No apologies have been issued to any members of the Special Olympics."
Too bad our existing agencies have sold out!
Big Oil has discouraged disruptive innovation for decades now. Electric Cars face the Linux problem of barriers to mindshare until .gov decides to ditch the favorable deals Big Oil worked out in the 70's and 80's.
I'll reply to you, including your sig.
I haven't yet seen the principle that for a true groundswell of a phenomenon, you need a huge swath of "low end users" Just Doing Stuff. Then the experts could float on top pushing the edge.
I saw layout as a necessary evil to get a structure for information. I'm no Developer, so I only need to be a 1-trick guy if it "the consensus" says it works. Count me in the class of people who want to Just Do Stuff.
Taking the long view, we're just about to see the Decline and Fall of Flash. So I'm glad I never bothered with it. I hope my 1-trick for the next decade is to learn simple HTML 5 (in whatever state it ends up middle of the road).
Classical Religion contains logical paradoxes that would make any logician proud.
If you "believe in God" then it is exceedingly difficult to try to disregard fragments of the Bible in the modern style of "Oh, that doesn't apply." (Never mind it's the same technique the Christians themselves used.)
God is a Division by Zero effect. For some reason this supreme being can't figure out how to say hello to us. Without the most basic confirmation of rationality, everything else becomes a Non-Euclidian demonstration in ... something.
What to do with all that grand theology? It does hold together, in its own world, just like when they first worked on Hyperbolic Geometry. " IF you had a God who did this and this and this, then all this neat stuff would apply."
Roger Zelazny can help. "The Great Slow Kings".
http://lib.ru/ZELQZNY/TheGreatSlowKings.txt
Yeah, I have a Verizon 3.0 DSL line.
Recently, with the exact same plan, Hulu suddenly seems a lot slower. I just recently had to start buffering the show again starting about a month ago, but all I can tell is my line is the same it has been. I don't know if there's advanced throttling going on to support the whole Hulu Plus push.
Combo-Expert gamers needed to vet this stuff! (My own viewpoint comes from a MTG background, but I'll accept MMO/other analogies as well.) We keep getting these weird little pieces of trouble, and the media seems to deliberately ignore the effect of batching them up.
Remember last month's entry that someone wanted Facebook to be the Gateway to the Web?
Really, what we have is a giant case of world wide Cabin Fever, that effect that used to drive people into crazy things from lack of perspective. Except because through the net we're "all staring at each other", it's structurally here until some watershed event changes our take on things.
Well,
I'd consider "private" comments behind logins and passwords and invite-only friends lists to be "private". I'd think it is the same category as when you're not supposed to be recording people's phone calls - Facebook is succeeding getting people to "open up" because it's "private".
If courts are going to go all miranda on your "private" posts, then there's another ratchet in the big engine of the police state.
Okay, so expect some bumps the 2013 year - but it doesn't look like an overgrown scooter either!
But maybe by 2015 a $100 gas card might last a month!
Heh - But how expensive is recharging the battery?
So you are saying
it is not just my
imagination
that I have to click a
million posts before I
can see your reply to mine.
Oh look! The lameness filter doesn't like my visual representation!
"Introducing the Realtime Consent Monitor!
This is a personal device worn on the body that manages one's personal space. If the user desires intimate contact, the setting would be set to 0-distance tolerated. However, if during the act she decides she no longer consents, she can toggle the setting so that further close proximity creates a warning."
The Christians had Y2K, but nothing awful happened.
I'm a bit more frightened of the events leading up to the runup to 12-12-12 though.
(But does the Mayan ruckus count the calendar switch in the middle ages?)
Yes you do.