1) You have one long pipe to pull water from the deep ocean.
2) The investors won't like the idea of building *another* 3000 foot pipe to expel the water from the system.
So you pull water from the deep and put it in the shallows. This has an unknown impact, and to echo the grandparent's comment, "hopefully it will have a good impact."
Disclaimer: I use Firefox, and used the suite before that. This is posted with Firefox on Debian.
Firefox has memory leaks. That is a fact and the developers know about it and are fixing it; slowly.
The hard part is finding test cases that exibit the problems without using most of the code base to render it.
The other hard part is that there are only so many programmers (working on mozilla) that know the intricacies of debugging Garbage-Collection memory management. It is quite complex, and time consuming.
Remote X to Win4Lin? Interesting, if they haven't prevented it.
It may be in the personal edition, but even there it just looks like it's limited to 64MB ram per instance. Their site for the terminal server product pretty much says that it's already possible with their other products, but this just makes it much easier, and supported.
Offhand, I suspect it probably shoots the license to heck though since I believe they have a similar commercial offering.
Why? If you are running one instance of Windows and seeing the output on another computer, you still only need one license. If you run multiple licenses, you'll need one license per instance of course.
It looks like you are in a multi-computer setup with a network.
In that case, I suggest you leave the computer with FC1 and win4lin alone and upgrade the other systems to FC3. You can configure win4lin to connect to the remote X server on your local FC3 install, and you're set.
In the case that you really want to upgrade to FC3, you should upgrade to FC2 and then to FC3.
I was going to mod you down, but I think I'll reply instead since nobody seems to have responded to your errors.
Properly-written code should not care about what processor it is running on. It's wrong from a portability point of view to assume that a particular data type can be substituted for another data type just because, on one system, they happen to have the same bit size. Yet that seems to be at the very root of the issue here. I edited file after file, lost track of where I was at, and finally gave up.
I do not think you will see OOo 1.1 compiling in 64bits any time soon from what I have heard. Though, there are several people porting the development branch to 64bit arches like x86-64.
I don't defend proprietary software often, but you will see many open source projects where their code didn't/doesn't compile 64 bits. And the ones that do compile there regularly break 64bit arches from checkins that haven't been tested there. Mozilla is one such code base, and you will find more if you look.
Open source projects will work on whatever arches they have developers using the software. If you don't have developers on 64bit arches, then most likely there will be compile errors for those arches.
Now think. Sun also sell proprietary, closed-source stuff, which they don't have to worry about other people seeing. Stuff like Solaris and Java. If OpenOffice.org is so sloppily written that it won't compile on a 64-bit system without more mods than I was prepared to make, and that's what they deign to let us look at -- then what sort of state is the code in that they won't let us see?
If you are part of the JCP you can see the source, and participate also. I don't know if others can see the source though. Reminds me of "Shared Source" from you know who...
Clairification: The drives may need to cache the write, but the issue here is whether they also fail to flush their cache when a sync command is sent over the ide bus.
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That is the problem. There are far too few people that to things right even if nobody sees.
Since the patent postdates Windows NT 3.1, and even references the NT SEH implementation, it must be possible to implement NT-compatible SEH without infringing the patent.
Have you heard of people saying that in order to get a patent there should be an implementation?
This is one such patent that does exactly that. Referring to one implementation does not invalidate the concepts being patented.
Now patenting concepts is a whole 'nother issue...
I'm sure all of the times I've download the various versions of Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird have outweighed many times the amount of data my machines have downloaded for IE/OE. And I'm not counting the non-windows systems I have.
Luckily, FF/TB 1.1 will have incremental updates that will reduce the download requirements for updates.
At least with Salesforce, it is a web application so it should not be too difficult to write a perl script to extract your data. Sure the cost may be substantial, but it is far better than something like VinNow which has proprietary data storage formats!
Why not do the same for VinNow? You're talking about extracting the data from a web service, why not extract the data out of the GUI?
I'll tell you why. You'd have to deal with all of the quirks of the interface that is geared towards humans. At least with web services, the interface is meant to interact with other programs (your browser) -- even if the browser interacts with the user much like a GUI, extracting the data is easier from web services.
Though, I wonder why you don't see more scripts that interact with GUIs to extract their data. Many programs even have APIs, which ease the process.
As for lockin.... This is why I push Linux for my customers. In my part of rural Washington State, I am the best Linux consultant around. Therefore, this is my form of lock-in. Not to say that there isn't competition, but just that I am in a good niche.
Yes, I have noticed this before. It is the same with small business. With windows everyone knows someone who can "fix" windows to some degree.
There are a lot fewer that know someone who can "fix Linux" probmems.
This is especially true in the direct mail industry. I live in the Los Angeles area, and setup someone with Linux. They either keep you or pay for the proprietary system.
While the bounty will make some developer over a thousand dollars, this is what happens when you work with closed technologies. You loose flexability and freedom as seen in this instance.
Why does the act of being paid to work on Free Software have anything to do with the moral argument of Free Software?
Just because money is being exchanged, does that mean your words become less convincing?
Now, if you are talking to a Linux Kernel hacker and they are saying that there is no better system, you then you can take their words with a grain of salt. There are other OSes that are better at certain things, for instance plan9. Though many of them are mainly focused on research.
Just like the four octal unix permissions system. It is not the best. There are other systems that can do more, like ACLs. It just so happens that most (though certainly not all) of the things needed to be done with permissions can be done with the octal unix permissions and the simplicity of the system has many arguments in its favor.
Though if someone argues that octal permissions are the best, that should be taken with a grain of salt.
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What you seem to be missing:
1) You have one long pipe to pull water from the deep ocean.
2) The investors won't like the idea of building *another* 3000 foot pipe to expel the water from the system.
So you pull water from the deep and put it in the shallows. This has an unknown impact, and to echo the grandparent's comment, "hopefully it will have a good impact."
Disclaimer: I use Firefox, and used the suite before that. This is posted with Firefox on Debian.
Firefox has memory leaks. That is a fact and the developers know about it and are fixing it; slowly.
The hard part is finding test cases that exibit the problems without using most of the code base to render it.
The other hard part is that there are only so many programmers (working on mozilla) that know the intricacies of debugging Garbage-Collection memory management. It is quite complex, and time consuming.
Idiot.
Just go to any hardcore site for that.
Maybe that's why sites showing non-professionals are becoming more popular. Not everyone likes the big fake ones...
Remote X to Win4Lin? Interesting, if they haven't prevented it.
It may be in the personal edition, but even there it just looks like it's limited to 64MB ram per instance. Their site for the terminal server product pretty much says that it's already possible with their other products, but this just makes it much easier, and supported.
Offhand, I suspect it probably shoots the license to heck though since I believe they have a similar commercial offering.
Why? If you are running one instance of Windows and seeing the output on another computer, you still only need one license. If you run multiple licenses, you'll need one license per instance of course.
A report was issued by the USDA, US Department of Agriculture, showed
You mean USDoA, right?
There is some talk of using vegetable oil in modified diesel engines.
I also heard that the origional purpose of the deisel engine was to burn corn oil.
Has anyone else heard of that?
It looks like you are in a multi-computer setup with a network.
In that case, I suggest you leave the computer with FC1 and win4lin alone and upgrade the other systems to FC3. You can configure win4lin to connect to the remote X server on your local FC3 install, and you're set.
In the case that you really want to upgrade to FC3, you should upgrade to FC2 and then to FC3.
I was going to mod you down, but I think I'll reply instead since nobody seems to have responded to your errors.
Properly-written code should not care about what processor it is running on. It's wrong from a portability point of view to assume that a particular data type can be substituted for another data type just because, on one system, they happen to have the same bit size. Yet that seems to be at the very root of the issue here. I edited file after file, lost track of where I was at, and finally gave up.
I do not think you will see OOo 1.1 compiling in 64bits any time soon from what I have heard. Though, there are several people porting the development branch to 64bit arches like x86-64.
I don't defend proprietary software often, but you will see many open source projects where their code didn't/doesn't compile 64 bits. And the ones that do compile there regularly break 64bit arches from checkins that haven't been tested there. Mozilla is one such code base, and you will find more if you look.
Open source projects will work on whatever arches they have developers using the software. If you don't have developers on 64bit arches, then most likely there will be compile errors for those arches.
Now think. Sun also sell proprietary, closed-source stuff, which they don't have to worry about other people seeing. Stuff like Solaris and Java. If OpenOffice.org is so sloppily written that it won't compile on a 64-bit system without more mods than I was prepared to make, and that's what they deign to let us look at -- then what sort of state is the code in that they won't let us see?
If you are part of the JCP you can see the source, and participate also. I don't know if others can see the source though. Reminds me of "Shared Source" from you know who...
But, the code quality in OOo shouldn't be blamed on Sun since they bought the company that created Star Office and Open sourced it!
We will be able to judge the code quality Sun produces when they finally release the code to Solaris. That will be interesting.
Clairification:
The drives may need to cache the write, but the issue here is whether they also fail to flush their cache when a sync command is sent over the ide bus.
Only a minority of Apple's potential customers care if...
That is the problem. There are far too few people that to things right even if nobody sees.
Check out the IPL that says that you lose rights to use the software if you enforce a patent against it.
Maybe instead of Europe, you could distribute from Cuba. Not likely to be software patents there as long as Fidel is alive :)
Maybe not. I hear he's dying soon.
Since the patent postdates Windows NT 3.1, and even references the NT SEH implementation, it must be possible to implement NT-compatible SEH without infringing the patent.
Have you heard of people saying that in order to get a patent there should be an implementation?
This is one such patent that does exactly that. Referring to one implementation does not invalidate the concepts being patented.
Now patenting concepts is a whole 'nother issue...
There is nothing in the GPL/LGPL that says anything about the license being revoked if you enforce a patent.
That is one of the things that is expected to be cleared up in GPL v3.
he shell integration is lacking, it seems you can't drag an archive to somewhere else with the RMB and have the option to extract there
Yes, I miss that feature also. I know others have asked for it, so it will be in 7zip eventually.
or extract in a subfolder in that position.
In 7zip:
tools -> options -> plugins -> 7zip -> options -> extract to
HTH
And how much is your company paying MS for support?
There is a well known rumor that MS supports their bigger/higher paying customers better than everyone else. Can you refute this?
I'm sure all of the times I've download the various versions of Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird have outweighed many times the amount of data my machines have downloaded for IE/OE. And I'm not counting the non-windows systems I have.
Luckily, FF/TB 1.1 will have incremental updates that will reduce the download requirements for updates.
At least with Salesforce, it is a web application so it should not be too difficult to write a perl script to extract your data. Sure the cost may be substantial, but it is far better than something like VinNow which has proprietary data storage formats!
Why not do the same for VinNow? You're talking about extracting the data from a web service, why not extract the data out of the GUI?
I'll tell you why. You'd have to deal with all of the quirks of the interface that is geared towards humans. At least with web services, the interface is meant to interact with other programs (your browser) -- even if the browser interacts with the user much like a GUI, extracting the data is easier from web services.
Though, I wonder why you don't see more scripts that interact with GUIs to extract their data. Many programs even have APIs, which ease the process.
As for lockin.... This is why I push Linux for my customers. In my part of rural Washington State, I am the best Linux consultant around. Therefore, this is my form of lock-in. Not to say that there isn't competition, but just that I am in a good niche.
Yes, I have noticed this before. It is the same with small business. With windows everyone knows someone who can "fix" windows to some degree.
There are a lot fewer that know someone who can "fix Linux" probmems.
This is especially true in the direct mail industry. I live in the Los Angeles area, and setup someone with Linux. They either keep you or pay for the proprietary system.
While the bounty will make some developer over a thousand dollars, this is what happens when you work with closed technologies. You loose flexability and freedom as seen in this instance.
I'd mod you up if I had the points.
Damn, I had some earlier today...
Do you anways have four words in every sentence?
How about some details instead of your childish response?
Why does the act of being paid to work on Free Software have anything to do with the moral argument of Free Software?
Just because money is being exchanged, does that mean your words become less convincing?
Now, if you are talking to a Linux Kernel hacker and they are saying that there is no better system, you then you can take their words with a grain of salt. There are other OSes that are better at certain things, for instance plan9. Though many of them are mainly focused on research.
Just like the four octal unix permissions system. It is not the best. There are other systems that can do more, like ACLs. It just so happens that most (though certainly not all) of the things needed to be done with permissions can be done with the octal unix permissions and the simplicity of the system has many arguments in its favor.
Though if someone argues that octal permissions are the best, that should be taken with a grain of salt.
Do you have any links as to why SPARC64 is faster than UltraSPARC?
Yeah, in the new USE. That is United States of Europe...