This already exists, although not as standard equipment. I used to install them for a company that had ties to the Wisconsin government. I did this in Milwaukee, where as you may know, is the drunk ass captial of the world.
They tie into your starter, your key, and your tach. The starter and key are obvious, and the tach was so the device could know if your car was running. More on this later.
We would attach these thing and you would have to come back every 2 months to have its memory dumped. It would record every time you started your car. If you drove a lot you had to come in early because the memory would fill up. If you didn't make it by 3 months, the thing would shut down your car so you couldn't drive. Then my ass had to drive out and override it and escort the person to the shop, or do the data collection and callibration in the field. The data it stored was time, date and BAC. We would dump this and send it to the state.
To start your car you would have to blow and humm at the same time. The humming part was implemented because some joker was caught with a back seat full of ballons that he would use to pass the tests so he could drive around drunk still. At random intervals the device would make you blow into it while driving, preventing someone from blowing into it to get your car started. This is why the tach needs to tie into the device. An interesting project was installing it into a diesel truck.
You might ask why someone sober wouldn't just blow into it and ride along to blow into it again, to that I would imagine that this person would just drive the car and get it over with. If you failed the random test while driving, a siren would go off, the intention being to attract the cops who would bust you for drunk driving.
The thing would be fooled into thinking you were drunk by a lot of other things besides being drunk. The obvious ones would be mouthwash and cough syrup, less obvious are onions or certain chewing gum.
Yes, but given the same cluster density increasing rotation speed will speed up disk to controller transfer speed. This is usually the bottle neck as controller to bus transfer speed is now at 133MB/Sec.
The Green Bay Packer stock was a complete scam. To say people bought it not expecting to make a profit is not correct. There was NO way to make money on that stock as it was a novelty. On the piece of paper the stock is on the fine print indicated that the stock gets you zero stake in the company and does not entitle you to dividends.
As it stands if the Packers became some multi national hellacious megaplex of a inter plantary conglomerate, the people with that stock would not see one red cent from that stock.
Let me clarify all that is involved with this scheme.
Yes two sdsl modems will work back to back. I am pretty sure that adsl modems will work in the same way. There is somewhat of a standard for cell based sdsl modems so there is a chance that two different brands of sdsl modems will work together. The only problem is that you have to make sure that the VCI is the same on both, which pretty much means you will have to configure them yourselves... Don't expect them to work out of the box or with the config that your provider put on them.
In order for this to work you and the other party have to be out of the same CO. You can order PADA circuits to both partys and have them cross connect them at the MDF. As far as I know there is no way to do this between COs as telcos stopped running straight pairs between COs a long time ago, and NO you cannot just get switched through the voice network. The POTS network or even the ISDN network cannot handle the frequencies that DSL works on which is why DSLAMs and DSL was ever invented.
You also gotta make sure that the telco doesn't put load coils or ringers on the circuit. I have seen this happen even though our order specifically said not to put these things on there. How do you check? Use a TDR box. Also you have to make sure you never tell them you are using them for data. These circuits are suppoesed to be for alarms and there may be laws that are being broken here.
Your max throughput would be 2.3Mbit, depending how you set up the modem, the model and the distances involved. Oh, and don't try to use any type of map to guage the distance, the telcos rarely take the shortest path to the CO. How do you know length you ask? Bust that TDR machine again.
The circuit is not full duplex and not even really aggregate, which is weird. I would guess with two transfers in each direction you would see about 1.3-1.5Mbit both ways.
Oh, and if you are served off of a DLC you can just forget this whole idea, unless you want to drop a hardened DSLAM into your DLC.
Does all this sound like a lot of trouble? Imagine all these problems and variables times 10000 and you can imagine why (insert this week's defunct DSL provider name here) went out of business.
I am sick of always hearing this about movies. Of course it's not based in reality. Neither is the rest of this particular movie (at least I hope it's not based in reality). There's a movie out there that is completely correct in every respect. It's called "Walking around and doing shit" and it's sequel, "Driving your car and doing shit".
There is a literary term for this. It's called the willing supsension of disbelief. It's concept that's as old as story telling itself. It's been there forever and it's time you learned to deal with it.
I just got out of the DSL business this month, after 3 years of being a Network Engineer for a smallish provider out of Colorado.
The reason DSL companies are slow to do anything and hardly ever do anything right, is because of a couple of reasons:
1. The Telcos suck. This really only applies to DSL providers that aren't telcos (Rhythms, Covad, Northpoint, etc), but sometimes applies within the different departments of a Telco. There are more rules in dealing with and making the telcos do anything for you than most people could ever imagine. This is the source of all of the blame on the telco. The telcos have to install the lines for you, and frankly have no idea what the hell is going on. I can't count how many times I had to convince a lineman that there is not supposed to be any dial tone on the circuit. And if you get a marginal line, forget it. The telcos will test it for voice and come back and tell you it's fine. You ask them to put a TDR on it and they want to charge you out the ass. On top of that, you can't just go there and do it yourself because of all the rules and tarrifs and legality involved. And I could go into all of the shit they pull because you are their compitition, but you can read about all of the lawsuits and stuff elsewhere if you feel the need.
2. Nobody has any DSL experience. This is a problem that is going away pretty fast on the technical side, but is still strong when you talk about customer service, marketing, and sales people. The only real solution is to hire a mix of telco people and a mix of data people. This isn't bad from a technical perspective, unless you expect your telco guys to learn data, because they won't, which isn't the case for the data guys, most of them are younger and aren't used to cushy Bell union jobs. The real problem here again is with the other people (non-technical). These folks will fight like pitbulls about every little aspect of how to do things because of their different backrounds.
So how does this affect install times and service? Simple. Put all this crap into a bowl and stir it around, and watch what you get. You will get a giant ass bowl of crap that can get out of the way of it's own ego, let alone help the customer.
Thats my 2 cents. From a guy who watched a DSL company go from 5 people (I was #5) to over 700 in 3 years.
I like both digital books and paper books for different reasons.
Paper books have all the quality paper books have, which I am sure all these other posts will point out, which makes them easier to read and manipulate.
But as reference material goes, nothing beats a digital book. I keep a copy of O'Reilly's Ethernet book in my laptop bag as a reference. I would kill to be able to find a digital version of this book in order to save weight and space in my bag, which is very important when you travel at all with your laptop.
I say there should be more digital books, simply because they don't make your laptop weigh any more than it already does, and keep the status quo on the printed material as well.
The real question is how much work do you have to put into one of these things to cook it.
I used to live on hot dogs and frozen burritos because of the unattended cooking features, i.e. open the end of the packaged and fire it into the microwave frozen and walk away.
Also, does it get real gross if you cook it twice? There has been more than one time I forgot I was going to eat, only to find a burrito at room temp in the microwave.
I would be all over these things if there was no cooking effort involved. I don't want to rotate things after 2 minutes, I don't want to thaw things, I don't want a huge mess if I walk away from it. I want this thing to cook right with minimal effort.
The person who can build with the LEGOs would not be on par with the person with the knowledge, they would be playing a different game all together.
There is a different kind of intelligence at work when a person uses LEGOs as opposed to memorizing material. The whole point of the LEGOs is to level the playing field for people who didn't have the resources to learn the material that someone else had to luxury of having access to or the time to learn it.
Let's face it, life isn't all peachy everywhere for everyone. People are put at a disadvatage sometimes and should not be denied opportunities for it. This is the basis of using LEGOs. It's an opportunity for certain people who are disadvantaged to prove that they can hack it in school. You can't honestly expect ghetto kids to stop dodging bullets to learn trig or expect some kid in the swamps to study poetry or whatnot while he waits for his pops to beat his ass because he is drunk again. The LEGO thing makes things more fair because they are blocks that can go together in a way to make something.
My point is if you are bright, but for some reason unable to learn the things that you and I have had the opportunity to learn, the LEGO test is basic enough to let a person like this demonstrate that he is smart enough to go to college.
One really good reason to put a station on Mars or the Moon is the leaps in wireless communications it would produce. This is a development everyone could use.
I think one of the reasons is the "ease of use" factor. This is more of an concern for Linux distos than for xBSD distros. This is probably one of the reasons for the undergroundness of BSD. And frankly I hope it stays that way.
I would really like things to stay the same as they are now, BSD positioning itself as a rock-stable, bad ass mother and let Linux go off and try to make everyone happy with the pretty install progs and such.
This is going to make life not so good for any other legitimate distro who want to fund their company through an IPO.
This LinuxOne IPO will probably not do very well, which will drag down the image of "Linux IPOs" in the mind of the underwriters.
If the underwriters have a low opinion of Linux companies because of this, the next distro who wants funding through an IPO will probably get a lower opening price, which means less money in the bank for them, which means less development and such which affects us all.
Hopefully this will set the standard for other companies who wish to do the same thing. If these guys do terribly, then others probably wont follow suit, which is good for the community, both the open source community and the financial community.
Remember the movie Coming to America? The guy who ran McDowell's didn't get sued because: McDonald's used a sesame seed bun, Mr McDowell used a plain bun. McDonald's had the Golden Arches, McDowell's use golden arcs. If these are good enough to keep him from getting sued, I think they should prolly lay off Disney. LouAlbano
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This already exists, although not as standard equipment. I used to install them for a company that had ties to the Wisconsin government. I did this in Milwaukee, where as you may know, is the drunk ass captial of the world.
They tie into your starter, your key, and your tach. The starter and key are obvious, and the tach was so the device could know if your car was running. More on this later.
We would attach these thing and you would have to come back every 2 months to have its memory dumped. It would record every time you started your car. If you drove a lot you had to come in early because the memory would fill up. If you didn't make it by 3 months, the thing would shut down your car so you couldn't drive. Then my ass had to drive out and override it and escort the person to the shop, or do the data collection and callibration in the field. The data it stored was time, date and BAC. We would dump this and send it to the state.
To start your car you would have to blow and humm at the same time. The humming part was implemented because some joker was caught with a back seat full of ballons that he would use to pass the tests so he could drive around drunk still. At random intervals the device would make you blow into it while driving, preventing someone from blowing into it to get your car started. This is why the tach needs to tie into the device. An interesting project was installing it into a diesel truck.
You might ask why someone sober wouldn't just blow into it and ride along to blow into it again, to that I would imagine that this person would just drive the car and get it over with. If you failed the random test while driving, a siren would go off, the intention being to attract the cops who would bust you for drunk driving.
The thing would be fooled into thinking you were drunk by a lot of other things besides being drunk. The obvious ones would be mouthwash and cough syrup, less obvious are onions or certain chewing gum.
ft
Yes, but given the same cluster density increasing rotation speed will speed up disk to controller transfer speed. This is usually the bottle neck as controller to bus transfer speed is now at 133MB/Sec.
ft
Just for clarification.
The Green Bay Packer stock was a complete scam. To say people bought it not expecting to make a profit is not correct. There was NO way to make money on that stock as it was a novelty. On the piece of paper the stock is on the fine print indicated that the stock gets you zero stake in the company and does not entitle you to dividends.
As it stands if the Packers became some multi national hellacious megaplex of a inter plantary conglomerate, the people with that stock would not see one red cent from that stock.
ft
Let me clarify all that is involved with this scheme.
Yes two sdsl modems will work back to back. I am pretty sure that adsl modems will work in the same way. There is somewhat of a standard for cell based sdsl modems so there is a chance that two different brands of sdsl modems will work together. The only problem is that you have to make sure that the VCI is the same on both, which pretty much means you will have to configure them yourselves... Don't expect them to work out of the box or with the config that your provider put on them.
In order for this to work you and the other party have to be out of the same CO. You can order PADA circuits to both partys and have them cross connect them at the MDF. As far as I know there is no way to do this between COs as telcos stopped running straight pairs between COs a long time ago, and NO you cannot just get switched through the voice network. The POTS network or even the ISDN network cannot handle the frequencies that DSL works on which is why DSLAMs and DSL was ever invented.
You also gotta make sure that the telco doesn't put load coils or ringers on the circuit. I have seen this happen even though our order specifically said not to put these things on there. How do you check? Use a TDR box. Also you have to make sure you never tell them you are using them for data. These circuits are suppoesed to be for alarms and there may be laws that are being broken here.
Your max throughput would be 2.3Mbit, depending how you set up the modem, the model and the distances involved. Oh, and don't try to use any type of map to guage the distance, the telcos rarely take the shortest path to the CO. How do you know length you ask? Bust that TDR machine again.
The circuit is not full duplex and not even really aggregate, which is weird. I would guess with two transfers in each direction you would see about 1.3-1.5Mbit both ways.
Oh, and if you are served off of a DLC you can just forget this whole idea, unless you want to drop a hardened DSLAM into your DLC.
Does all this sound like a lot of trouble? Imagine all these problems and variables times 10000 and you can imagine why (insert this week's defunct DSL provider name here) went out of business.
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http://www.carplayer.com/cpm25/hddunit.html
-Lou
I am sick of always hearing this about movies. Of course it's not based in reality. Neither is the rest of this particular movie (at least I hope it's not based in reality). There's a movie out there that is completely correct in every respect. It's called "Walking around and doing shit" and it's sequel, "Driving your car and doing shit".
There is a literary term for this. It's called the willing supsension of disbelief. It's concept that's as old as story telling itself. It's been there forever and it's time you learned to deal with it.
I just got out of the DSL business this month, after 3 years of being a Network Engineer for a smallish provider out of Colorado.
The reason DSL companies are slow to do anything and hardly ever do anything right, is because of a couple of reasons:
1. The Telcos suck. This really only applies to DSL providers that aren't telcos (Rhythms, Covad, Northpoint, etc), but sometimes applies within the different departments of a Telco. There are more rules in dealing with and making the telcos do anything for you than most people could ever imagine. This is the source of all of the blame on the telco. The telcos have to install the lines for you, and frankly have no idea what the hell is going on. I can't count how many times I had to convince a lineman that there is not supposed to be any dial tone on the circuit. And if you get a marginal line, forget it. The telcos will test it for voice and come back and tell you it's fine. You ask them to put a TDR on it and they want to charge you out the ass. On top of that, you can't just go there and do it yourself because of all the rules and tarrifs and legality involved. And I could go into all of the shit they pull because you are their compitition, but you can read about all of the lawsuits and stuff elsewhere if you feel the need.
2. Nobody has any DSL experience. This is a problem that is going away pretty fast on the technical side, but is still strong when you talk about customer service, marketing, and sales people. The only real solution is to hire a mix of telco people and a mix of data people. This isn't bad from a technical perspective, unless you expect your telco guys to learn data, because they won't, which isn't the case for the data guys, most of them are younger and aren't used to cushy Bell union jobs. The real problem here again is with the other people (non-technical). These folks will fight like pitbulls about every little aspect of how to do things because of their different backrounds.
So how does this affect install times and service? Simple. Put all this crap into a bowl and stir it around, and watch what you get. You will get a giant ass bowl of crap that can get out of the way of it's own ego, let alone help the customer.
Thats my 2 cents. From a guy who watched a DSL company go from 5 people (I was #5) to over 700 in 3 years.
I like both digital books and paper books for different reasons.
Paper books have all the quality paper books have, which I am sure all these other posts will point out, which makes them easier to read and manipulate.
But as reference material goes, nothing beats a digital book. I keep a copy of O'Reilly's Ethernet book in my laptop bag as a reference. I would kill to be able to find a digital version of this book in order to save weight and space in my bag, which is very important when you travel at all with your laptop.
I say there should be more digital books, simply because they don't make your laptop weigh any more than it already does, and keep the status quo on the printed material as well.
Lou Albano -Ex manager of Wrestlers
This sounds an awful lot like what most people running ATM networks do. They charge more money for guaranteed quality of service.
This is nothing new and has been happening for a long time. There is nothing wrong here.
It takes money to run a network, and it costs more money to guarantee service which is reflected in the price. It's just that simple.
The real question is how much work do you have to put into one of these things to cook it.
I used to live on hot dogs and frozen burritos because of the unattended cooking features, i.e. open the end of the packaged and fire it into the microwave frozen and walk away.
Also, does it get real gross if you cook it twice? There has been more than one time I forgot I was going to eat, only to find a burrito at room temp in the microwave.
I would be all over these things if there was no cooking effort involved. I don't want to rotate things after 2 minutes, I don't want to thaw things, I don't want a huge mess if I walk away from it. I want this thing to cook right with minimal effort.
Lou
The person who can build with the LEGOs would not be on par with the person with the knowledge, they would be playing a different game all together.
There is a different kind of intelligence at work when a person uses LEGOs as opposed to memorizing material. The whole point of the LEGOs is to level the playing field for people who didn't have the resources to learn the material that someone else had to luxury of having access to or the time to learn it.
Let's face it, life isn't all peachy everywhere for everyone. People are put at a disadvatage sometimes and should not be denied opportunities for it. This is the basis of using LEGOs. It's an opportunity for certain people who are disadvantaged to prove that they can hack it in school. You can't honestly expect ghetto kids to stop dodging bullets to learn trig or expect some kid in the swamps to study poetry or whatnot while he waits for his pops to beat his ass because he is drunk again. The LEGO thing makes things more fair because they are blocks that can go together in a way to make something.
My point is if you are bright, but for some reason unable to learn the things that you and I have had the opportunity to learn, the LEGO test is basic enough to let a person like this demonstrate that he is smart enough to go to college.
--lou
If school and life was based around LEGO tests, I would have been supreme overlord when I was 10.
-lou
One really good reason to put a station on Mars or the Moon is the leaps in wireless communications it would produce. This is a development everyone could use.
-lou
I think one of the reasons is the "ease of use" factor. This is more of an concern for Linux distos than for xBSD distros. This is probably one of the reasons for the undergroundness of BSD. And frankly I hope it stays that way.
I would really like things to stay the same as they are now, BSD positioning itself as a rock-stable, bad ass mother and let Linux go off and try to make everyone happy with the pretty install progs and such.
2 cents from and ex managers of wrestlers
This is going to make life not so good for any other legitimate distro who want to fund their company through an IPO.
This LinuxOne IPO will probably not do very well, which will drag down the image of "Linux IPOs" in the mind of the underwriters.
If the underwriters have a low opinion of Linux companies because of this, the next distro who wants funding through an IPO will probably get a lower opening price, which means less money in the bank for them, which means less development and such which affects us all.
Hopefully this will set the standard for other companies who wish to do the same thing. If these guys do terribly, then others probably wont follow suit, which is good for the community, both the open source community and the financial community.
2 cents from an ex manager of wrestlers
Remember the movie Coming to America? The guy who ran McDowell's didn't get sued because: McDonald's used a sesame seed bun, Mr McDowell used a plain bun. McDonald's had the Golden Arches, McDowell's use golden arcs. If these are good enough to keep him from getting sued, I think they should prolly lay off Disney. LouAlbano