1. You don't/need/ all 6 CDs. Indeed, I've installed (SuSE6.2) with just the first.
2. To each his own, yes YAST is proprietary but that doesn't mean it sucks.
3. You are making this up.
4. Who says work can't be fun? For me, using Linux/is/ fun. Using windows is a pain in the rear.
5. That beep is probably caused by an alert -- something that couldn't be shut down (normally) for instance. I suggest looking at your shutdown scripts.
There should be a clause in US Patent law that requires you to actually implement your ideas
I can see a problem with this. What if you come up with the design for a fantastic new WidgetMeister 3000 in your shed, but don't have the moolah to manufacture it? With your suggestion, the WidgetMeister designer would not be able to patent his idea until he'd actually realised his design; any delay on his part in doing this could result in some manufacturing house snapping up his idea and hanging the inventor out to dry.
As a professional software developer making a living from being able to
develop platform-agnostic applications for the web, I am extremely alarmed to
see the W3C's proposed stance on patents & standards. With the proposed
changes in place the web will become more and more a showcase for large
corporations and will extinguish the independence and innovation that have
made the internet freely accessibly to anyone with a web browser (of any
flavour) and a dial-up account.
Indeed, with the proposals in place the web risks becoming a tool of a few
corporations (I think I don't need to list them specifically) and innovation
will largely be shut down. After a while, the W3C itself will cease to be
relevant, and I can hardly believe that is what is intended.
I urge you, therefore, to reject these proposals and show your organisation to
be one of integrity to the ideals of Tim Berners-Lee et al; be proud that you
are not just another tool of big business.
sound compression wasn't invented so people could play mp3s or whatever direct from their computers; it was done to facilitate transferring files over slow links.
nice of the industry to provide already compressed sound files, though, so we can all skip that step;)
..is to do away with lobbying of governmental representatives of the people by large corporations. (actually, screw that, small corporations also).
Return to a situation where your government actually made & upheld laws based on what was best for the people, not what is best for some special-interest group with a fat wallet.
Could the appropriate code be included in the Kernal (in order to make it legal) but made an option like everything else in the kernal, so I can compile a new one sans all the copy control nonesense?
No. The SSSCA specifically prohibits circumventing copy controls, much like the DMCA.
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
As a professional software developer making a living from being able to
develop platform-agnostic applications for the web, I am extremely alarmed to
see the W3C's proposed stance on patents & standards. With the proposed
changes in place the web will become more and more a showcase for large
corporations and will extinguish the independence and innovation that have
made the internet freely accessibly to anyone with a web browser (of any
flavour) and a dial-up account.
Indeed, with the proposals in place the web risks becoming a tool of a few
corporations (I think I don't need to list them specifically) and innovation
will largely be shut down. After a while, the W3C itself will cease to be
relevant, and I can hardly believe that is what is intended.
I urge you, therefore, to reject these proposals and show your organisation to
be one of integrity to the ideals of Tim Berners-Lee et al; be proud that you
are not just another tool of big business.
My guess is that soon, content will be served only through the advertising locations, so that blocking the ads will block your receiving the content, as well. There will be a way around it, but it'll be a lot more complicated than adding a couple lines to the hosts file.
Don't buy it -- vote with your wallet. It's called a sacrifice, see? You don't get something you want; in return, the $BIG_CORPS don't get what they want (your money). Since you can live without a CD, but they can't live without money, in the long run you win!
So, if you want copy protection schemes like this to die, don't buy CDs until they are free from DRM schemes. Convince your friends, rellies, also.
because the 'announce' link doesn't work...
on
VIM 6.0 is Out
·
· Score: 4, Offtopic
here's the text of the latest 6.0ax announcement:
From: Bram Moolenaar
To: vim-announce@vim.org
Subject: Vim version 6.0ax BETA is available
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:51:23 +0200
Message-Id: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 6.0ax BETA
Author: Bram Moolenaar et al. Announcement
------------ This is a BETA test version of Vim. Vim 6.0 is a huge step from Vim
5.x. Many, many new features and improvements have been included. For
an overview, with a few screendumps, look here: http://vim.sf.net/whyvim.php The past two weeks many bugs have been fixed. This release is to check
if no mistakes were made. If nothing important comes up, 6.0 will be
released in a few days. Thanks to all people who reported problems and
helped fixing them! If you notice a problem, please report it! It would be annoying if Vim
6.0 will be released with a problem that could have been fixed if you
would have reported it. If you are upgrading from Vim 5.x, please look out for problems you run into.
Vim 6.0 is mostly backwards compatible, but not 100%. Check out ":help
version6" for known incompatibilities. If you find a problem that can be
solved, please report it to me. Details about changes since the first beta can be found in these messages:
6.0aqhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23413
6.0arhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23598
6.0ashttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23730
6.0athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 23941
6.0auhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24252
6.0avhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24546
6.0awhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 24841
6.0axhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messag e/ 25061 You can find the most recent patches here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased/patches What is Vim?
------------ Vim is an almost 100% compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi. Many new
features have been added: Multi level undo, syntax highlighting, command line
history, filename completion, block operations, etc. Those who don't know Vi
can probably skip this message, unless you are prepared to learn something new
and useful. Vim is especially recommended for editing programs. Vim runs on almost any Unix flavor, MS-DOS, MS-Windows 3.1, MS-Windows
95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, OS/2, Atari MiNT, BeOS, VMS, RISC OS, Macintosh and
Amiga. For more information, see http://vim.sf.net. New since version 5.8
--------------------- The number of changes is huge. These are just the main new items: Folding - momentarily hide part of the text
Vertically split windows - mixed with horizontal splits
Diff mode - show and remove differences between files
Easy Vim: click-and-type - for those who really don't like two modes
User manual - learn to use Vim, reads like a book
Flexible indenting - automatic indenting for any language
Extended search patterns - more regexp power than you will need
UTF-8 support - Unicode allows editing nearly all languages
Multi-language support - translated messages and menus
Plugin support - drop a script in a directory and you can use it
Filetype plugins - an easy way to setup for editing a type of file
File browser - browse directories, also on a terminal
Editing files over a network - read and write a remote files directly
command-line editing window - use any Vim command to edit an Ex command
Debugging mode - debug your Vim functions and scripts
Cursor in virtual position - edit tables and draw ASCII pictures
Debugger interface - use Vim with Sun Visual Workshop
Communication between Vims - let one Vim tell another Vim what to do
Printing - print with syntax colors
Quickfix extended - see error messages in a window and jump there
Writing files improved - rename or copy to make a backup file
Argument list - select groups of files to work on
Restore a View - save the looks of a window and restore it later
Color schemes - quickly switch between different color setups See this page for the details: http://vim.sf.net/htmldoc/version6.html Where to get it
--------------- Information about which files to download for what system: http://vim.sf.net/download.php If you already know what to get, download it from here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased Or use one of the mirrors, see: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/MIRRORS Mailing lists
------------- For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list. There are a lot of
tips, scripts and solutions. You can ask your Vim questions, but only if you
subscribe. See http://www.vim.org/mail.html. An archive is kept at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim. If you want to help developing Vim or get the latest patches, subscribe to
the vim-dev mailing list. An archive is kept at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev. Subject specific lists:
Multi-byte issues: vim-multibyte http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-multibyte
Macintosh issues: vim-mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-mac Reporting bugs
-------------- Send them to . Please describe the problem precisely. All the
time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is spent on
improving Vim! Always give a reproducable example and try to find out which
settings or other things influence the appearance of the bug. Try starting
without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE -U NONE". Try different machines
if possible. See ":help bugs" in Vim. Send me a patch if you can! If something needs discussing with other developers, send a message to the
vim-dev mailing list. You need to subscribe first. Happy Vimming!
Guillotine: he didn't advance science, he merely applied an existing technology (a sharp blade) to a sociological problem (too many damn rich folk). All he did was speed up the process of doing away with the aristos.
Nobel: he felt guilt for creating TNT (actually dynamite I believe) sure, but dynamite & TNT are both widely used in demolition, mining etc -- neither of them ethically questionable IMO. In fact, Nobel made nitro glycerin far more stable by mixing it with clay to form dynamite, thus actually saving more lives.
Napalm creators: again, the destructive element (petroleum) already existed, although I'll grant the 'efficiencies' of its application in naphthene palmate are hardly an advancement of science.
I think you and I agree, but that doesn't mean they/should/ have been ashamed of what they created (with the possible exception of the Napalm creators), just that they were once they saw what other people were doing with them. Perhaps humanity needs to occasionally create something as spectacularly destructive as the a-bomb, in order to know what to avoid.
Scientists should not hold back news of a discovery for fear that one day it may be used by the bad guys -- let the sociologists deal with that. All scientific discoveries have the potential to uplift the human condition. Perhaps one day we will no longer have a need to strong crypto, but until then Hellmann and others should not feel ashamed or guilty about their discoveries and contributions. The ones who should feel ashamed are those who let their personal agendas get in the way of progress, who would rather see us back in age where the privileged few have all the power and the masses are huddled together in the dark looking to superstition for salvation.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21863.html - this got rejected from the submission queue because the/. editors are clueless. I think y'all need to see it, so here it is.
Wah wah wah. Please somebody do something for me, so I don't have to.
If you want a situation to change, sometimes you have to actually do something yourself, not sit on your arse and wait for it to happen.
It may sound trite, but change comes from within.Stop being so lazy -- come up with a letter yourself. In fact, if anyone wants to email me at slashaction@techie.com with standard letters for this sort of thing, I will set up a website to host them. Replies to this message will also be accepted.
Slashdot Mirror
No, it should be called what it is: bribery.
Good point ;) Maybe if you're so inclined you could post your letter here when you're finished so others may be inspired to follow suit.
How could we best get over the point that the DMCA, SSSCA etc benefit nobody beyond making a few men with already-fat wallets even richer?
1. You don't /need/ all 6 CDs. Indeed, I've installed (SuSE6.2) with just the first.
/is/ fun. Using windows is a pain in the rear.
2. To each his own, yes YAST is proprietary but that doesn't mean it sucks.
3. You are making this up.
4. Who says work can't be fun? For me, using Linux
5. That beep is probably caused by an alert -- something that couldn't be shut down (normally) for instance. I suggest looking at your shutdown scripts.
There should be a clause in US Patent law that requires you to actually implement your ideas
I can see a problem with this. What if you come up with the design for a fantastic new WidgetMeister 3000 in your shed, but don't have the moolah to manufacture it? With your suggestion, the WidgetMeister designer would not be able to patent his idea until he'd actually realised his design; any delay on his part in doing this could result in some manufacturing house snapping up his idea and hanging the inventor out to dry.
As a professional software developer making a living from being able to
develop platform-agnostic applications for the web, I am extremely alarmed to
see the W3C's proposed stance on patents & standards. With the proposed
changes in place the web will become more and more a showcase for large
corporations and will extinguish the independence and innovation that have
made the internet freely accessibly to anyone with a web browser (of any
flavour) and a dial-up account.
Indeed, with the proposals in place the web risks becoming a tool of a few
corporations (I think I don't need to list them specifically) and innovation
will largely be shut down. After a while, the W3C itself will cease to be
relevant, and I can hardly believe that is what is intended.
I urge you, therefore, to reject these proposals and show your organisation to
be one of integrity to the ideals of Tim Berners-Lee et al; be proud that you
are not just another tool of big business.
Which, of course, is what opera does.
sound compression wasn't invented so people could play mp3s or whatever direct from their computers; it was done to facilitate transferring files over slow links.
;)
nice of the industry to provide already compressed sound files, though, so we can all skip that step
..is to do away with lobbying of governmental representatives of the people by large corporations. (actually, screw that, small corporations also).
Return to a situation where your government actually made & upheld laws based on what was best for the people, not what is best for some special-interest group with a fat wallet.
And hurry up about it, I'm turning blue.
Could the appropriate code be included in the Kernal (in order to make it legal) but made an option like everything else in the kernal, so I can compile a new one sans all the copy control nonesense?
No. The SSSCA specifically prohibits circumventing copy controls, much like the DMCA.
Good point. Do both ;)
http://www.petitiononline.com/SSSCA/petition.html is just one.
(20..19..18..17...)
The quote is:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
you're welcome.
Why would the NSA have any interest in making it harder for them to access what's stored on your computer?
Um, UK means the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Or did you think the parent poster mean a different UK?
Feel free to re-use.
As a professional software developer making a living from being able to
develop platform-agnostic applications for the web, I am extremely alarmed to
see the W3C's proposed stance on patents & standards. With the proposed
changes in place the web will become more and more a showcase for large
corporations and will extinguish the independence and innovation that have
made the internet freely accessibly to anyone with a web browser (of any
flavour) and a dial-up account.
Indeed, with the proposals in place the web risks becoming a tool of a few
corporations (I think I don't need to list them specifically) and innovation
will largely be shut down. After a while, the W3C itself will cease to be
relevant, and I can hardly believe that is what is intended.
I urge you, therefore, to reject these proposals and show your organisation to
be one of integrity to the ideals of Tim Berners-Lee et al; be proud that you
are not just another tool of big business.
My guess is that soon, content will be served only through the advertising locations, so that blocking the ads will block your receiving the content, as well. There will be a way around it, but it'll be a lot more complicated than adding a couple lines to the hosts file.
You mean like this?
Don't buy it -- vote with your wallet. It's called a sacrifice, see? You don't get something you want; in return, the $BIG_CORPS don't get what they want (your money). Since you can live without a CD, but they can't live without money, in the long run you win!
So, if you want copy protection schemes like this to die, don't buy CDs until they are free from DRM schemes. Convince your friends, rellies, also.
here's the text of the latest 6.0ax announcement:
g e/ 23413
g e/ 23598
g e/ 23730
g e/ 23941
g e/ 24252
g e/ 24546
g e/ 24841
g e/ 25061 You can find the most recent patches here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased/patches What is Vim?
From: Bram Moolenaar
To: vim-announce@vim.org
Subject: Vim version 6.0ax BETA is available
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 15:51:23 +0200
Message-Id: Announcing: Vim (Vi IMproved) version 6.0ax BETA
Author: Bram Moolenaar et al. Announcement
------------ This is a BETA test version of Vim. Vim 6.0 is a huge step from Vim
5.x. Many, many new features and improvements have been included. For
an overview, with a few screendumps, look here: http://vim.sf.net/whyvim.php The past two weeks many bugs have been fixed. This release is to check
if no mistakes were made. If nothing important comes up, 6.0 will be
released in a few days. Thanks to all people who reported problems and
helped fixing them! If you notice a problem, please report it! It would be annoying if Vim
6.0 will be released with a problem that could have been fixed if you
would have reported it. If you are upgrading from Vim 5.x, please look out for problems you run into.
Vim 6.0 is mostly backwards compatible, but not 100%. Check out ":help
version6" for known incompatibilities. If you find a problem that can be
solved, please report it to me. Details about changes since the first beta can be found in these messages:
6.0aqhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0arhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0ashttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0athttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0auhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0avhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0awhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
6.0axhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/messa
------------ Vim is an almost 100% compatible version of the UNIX editor Vi. Many new
features have been added: Multi level undo, syntax highlighting, command line
history, filename completion, block operations, etc. Those who don't know Vi
can probably skip this message, unless you are prepared to learn something new
and useful. Vim is especially recommended for editing programs. Vim runs on almost any Unix flavor, MS-DOS, MS-Windows 3.1, MS-Windows
95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP, OS/2, Atari MiNT, BeOS, VMS, RISC OS, Macintosh and
Amiga. For more information, see http://vim.sf.net. New since version 5.8
--------------------- The number of changes is huge. These are just the main new items: Folding - momentarily hide part of the text
Vertically split windows - mixed with horizontal splits
Diff mode - show and remove differences between files
Easy Vim: click-and-type - for those who really don't like two modes
User manual - learn to use Vim, reads like a book
Flexible indenting - automatic indenting for any language
Extended search patterns - more regexp power than you will need
UTF-8 support - Unicode allows editing nearly all languages
Multi-language support - translated messages and menus
Plugin support - drop a script in a directory and you can use it
Filetype plugins - an easy way to setup for editing a type of file
File browser - browse directories, also on a terminal
Editing files over a network - read and write a remote files directly
command-line editing window - use any Vim command to edit an Ex command
Debugging mode - debug your Vim functions and scripts
Cursor in virtual position - edit tables and draw ASCII pictures
Debugger interface - use Vim with Sun Visual Workshop
Communication between Vims - let one Vim tell another Vim what to do
Printing - print with syntax colors
Quickfix extended - see error messages in a window and jump there
Writing files improved - rename or copy to make a backup file
Argument list - select groups of files to work on
Restore a View - save the looks of a window and restore it later
Color schemes - quickly switch between different color setups See this page for the details: http://vim.sf.net/htmldoc/version6.html Where to get it
--------------- Information about which files to download for what system: http://vim.sf.net/download.php If you already know what to get, download it from here: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/unreleased Or use one of the mirrors, see: ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/MIRRORS Mailing lists
------------- For user questions you can turn to the Vim mailing list. There are a lot of
tips, scripts and solutions. You can ask your Vim questions, but only if you
subscribe. See http://www.vim.org/mail.html. An archive is kept at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim. If you want to help developing Vim or get the latest patches, subscribe to
the vim-dev mailing list. An archive is kept at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev. Subject specific lists:
Multi-byte issues: vim-multibyte http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-multibyte
Macintosh issues: vim-mac http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vim-mac Reporting bugs
-------------- Send them to . Please describe the problem precisely. All the
time spent on answering mail is subtracted from the time that is spent on
improving Vim! Always give a reproducable example and try to find out which
settings or other things influence the appearance of the bug. Try starting
without your own vimrc file: "vim -u NONE -U NONE". Try different machines
if possible. See ":help bugs" in Vim. Send me a patch if you can! If something needs discussing with other developers, send a message to the
vim-dev mailing list. You need to subscribe first. Happy Vimming!
Well as long as you feel secure in your apathy, knowing that you can foist the responsibility for change off onto your kids, go right ahead.
although, I don't know how you expect them to learn that responsibility from your own behaviour.
Start at the top -- teach your children by example.
The rest of your post isn't worth dignifying with a response.
Guillotine: he didn't advance science, he merely applied an existing technology (a sharp blade) to a sociological problem (too many damn rich folk). All he did was speed up the process of doing away with the aristos.
/should/ have been ashamed of what they created (with the possible exception of the Napalm creators), just that they were once they saw what other people were doing with them. Perhaps humanity needs to occasionally create something as spectacularly destructive as the a-bomb, in order to know what to avoid.
Nobel: he felt guilt for creating TNT (actually dynamite I believe) sure, but dynamite & TNT are both widely used in demolition, mining etc -- neither of them ethically questionable IMO. In fact, Nobel made nitro glycerin far more stable by mixing it with clay to form dynamite, thus actually saving more lives.
Napalm creators: again, the destructive element (petroleum) already existed, although I'll grant the 'efficiencies' of its application in naphthene palmate are hardly an advancement of science.
I think you and I agree, but that doesn't mean they
Scientists should not hold back news of a discovery for fear that one day it may be used by the bad guys -- let the sociologists deal with that. All scientific discoveries have the potential to uplift the human condition. Perhaps one day we will no longer have a need to strong crypto, but until then Hellmann and others should not feel ashamed or guilty about their discoveries and contributions. The ones who should feel ashamed are those who let their personal agendas get in the way of progress, who would rather see us back in age where the privileged few have all the power and the masses are huddled together in the dark looking to superstition for salvation.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/21863.html - this got rejected from the submission queue because the /. editors are clueless. I think y'all need to see it, so here it is.
Wah wah wah. Please somebody do something for me, so I don't have to.
If you want a situation to change, sometimes you have to actually do something yourself, not sit on your arse and wait for it to happen.
It may sound trite, but change comes from within.Stop being so lazy -- come up with a letter yourself. In fact, if anyone wants to email me at slashaction@techie.com with standard letters for this sort of thing, I will set up a website to host them. Replies to this message will also be accepted.