"because in most cases porn serves no purpose other than to indulge the sexual fantasies of the viewer, while movies and the like usually aren't intended to make someone fantasize about commiting the crime."
So tell me Dr.Freud, why do we watch action-, and scary-movies? I think you hit the nail here without even seeing it.
However, playing with imagination is something _altogether different_, than doing it for real. But now, it's all made illegal, because of FUD.
"I think that if the courts take issue with virtual child porn they should also take issue with virtual rape (etc.) which is presented in a pornographic context."
Virtual rape and pornographic content to one, might be erotical art to another. How is people that got raped ever going to deal with it, if e.g making art about it is made illegal?
I don't know, sometimes all you've got to trust is your senses. I tend not to do that very often, but with nuclear power something tells me it just isn't right. It's not because I used to read Hulk, X-men and Spiderman either;-)
Besides, I don't want transport of nuclear waste through our city, or along my coast. Seen the amount of accidents lately? More and more oil spills. We should be happy it's not nuclear waste. The long term effect is pretty devastating, far-reaching and long-lasting. Right now, I have no say in this matter. Russia and Japan is currently planning on transporting a freighter full of nuclear waste along the coast of Norway. Our coast is full of wreckages. Last year we had such accidents every single month.
Living in Norway, Chernobyl _affected_ my life. My health. However, noone has told me how or how much. Nobody knows how much it affected me and my genes. It was much worse for those living off the land in the north though. It's really sad how people _want_ to stay ignorant in such matters.
There have been many more such accidents all over the world, but the people behind the plants tend to hush it down. Using any tactic they can do to make their plant work, lying, stealing and cheating. I don't trust these managers for one second.
I have no problems with advancing science in that field. Except for detonating atomic bombs in other people's backyards. Which has happened frequently throughout the cold war. I just have a problem with the "cheapness" and "safety" of nuclear power, and that so-called rational people seem to totally disregard other people's opinion on it.
You may call it FUD if you like, but reading whitepapers won't teach you anything useful about the product. Try reading independent reviews, and you get another picture. I believe this is true both for software and nuclear power.
"People who use the "information wants to be free, create a utopia of information" argument won't win. People deserve to be paid for their creative works, and anything that contributes to the mass dissemination of content without the consent of the copyright holder should rightfully be stopped."
It sounds like money is the only reason people should do anything with their miserable lives. Kinda supports corporations, doesn't it? It's incredible that their propaganda has made people believe this so firmly, detaching themselves from themselves.
It's not impossible to create a community where people develop and share their ideas mutually. However, it requires these people to be interested in their work/play, the sharing-experience and be HAPPY. Sarcasm: Oh wait, this is now illegal, so let's throw that idea away.
I'm not advocating a new global economic model of gift-making and big & bloody revolutions. I just humbly request to lighten up and check out the possibilities. Leave any future utopias to the imagination and surprise.
To every Ying, there is a Yang. No valley can exist without surrounding hills. When you understand this, you see that noone is to blame. Things just ARE.
"Public ignorance and apathy are the reason we're losing these freedoms, not corporate greed and governmental corruption. Neither of those would have any power at all in a world of educated people who care about their rights."
So people need a reason to care about their rights, and so the universe will give them reasons. If you really think about it, we are given plenty!:-)
People who care for the environment and well being of others, know that nuclear power is inherently a bad choice. I don't believe we know everything about nuclear fission, and that we will discover what really is going on when we split atoms. Mod me down all you like for meaning this, but it's my opinion and my responsibility to express it.
If you react without having a clue what is going on, you're part of the problem. It's pretty much like playing a chess-game. You may think you just made the most brilliant move, but get checkmated in 10-15 moves. My advice: Play chess!;-)
Yes, we're in a cycle of global warming right now. Global warming and cooling has been happening on earth for millions and millions of years. It's natural, and I doubt we can interfere with it without bad side-effects. Now what is more important, is to reduce our own artificial factors from the equation by reducing our emission of pollutants like CO2. I fully agree on you on that.
AFAIK, the hit that did the dinosaurs, also did all tall vegetation and animals down to small lizards. However, it always depends what scientist you're asking.
If you had any useful knowledge at all to share, you'd know that the global warming we're having now is a natural cycle of the earth. Cycling between thousands of years, problems with CO2 emmisions are pretty much exhaggerated. Not that pollution isn't a serious problem we should deal with the proper way, but it's hardly to blame for the total global warming we've been having.
Your solution with battling pollution with pollution, I think your perception of the fault is to blame. You perceieve global warming as the problem. I can assure you, it is not. By putting an extra factor into the equation, you're not solving anything, but making the equation more complex. What if the dust reflects radiation from the earth, or reacts with the Ozone layer? Not very likely I know, but you can never know what'll happen. There's always an unforeseen side-effect.
Your argument of finding the cheapest solution, is the one that truly disgusts me. Instead of adapting to the problem and finding the best solution we can live with, you propose a hack to the air we live and breathe in? Why, when we have so many better alternatives. What is wrong with your equation is that when you calculate cost, you don't include the environment in your calculation.
However, you're right that we shouldn't rush into things and panic.
I know what he would think. That this shows how cross licensing hampers free software. While I understand this, I can also understand Sun's position. They have really no control on how the GPL will develop in later versions. So to them it probably made sense to cross license.
It doesn't matter if Webcrawler indexed pages long before the patent was issued if they never described the technology in public. They could have been 100 years before the patent, but still would have to pay for license when the patent goes into action.
Haha, to me those buzzwords sounds like crap. HTML = outdated. Javascript = ugly and crippled. DVB = they got a friggin' flash-intro on their site! *flees* MHP = ugly and highly confusing website. Mozilla = too bloated and buggy. X86 = remnicents from '86, should have been put to death ages ago. Why can't Intel wisen up and call it X2000?;-)
"But Windows 2000, even if it's "based" in a theoretical UNIX world, is still Windows reality"
Windows 2000 is not POSIX-compatible and does not include any *NIX-tools. Perhaps with Cygwin, but that's hardly to Microsoft's merit.
Btw, do you honestly believe someone would build/has built a multitasking OS without process IDs (or something equivalent)?
I think most of Slashdot is missing out of the real story here. The national register is including many types of spam; over snail-mail, E-mail and telephone. Combined with these are many categories you can freely choose to opt-out of, like advertisements, free newspapers, statistical queries, humanitarian/non-profit organisations and so on. Every company and organisation sending out unsolicited spam, must wash their spam-lists against this register before sending out their piles of junk.
However, being a customer or member, they have a right to send you material and the whole issue gets a bit shadier. Also, this will not prevent rogue spammers or companies originating in foreign countries.
All in all, I believe this is a great innitiative. A central register like this means much less hassle in opting-out. Eg, many postmen blatantly ignore the stickers you can put on your mailboxes. They get extra paid for delivering spam. I only hope this'll work.
There are several disadvantages of Everything2. Here are some, not all, I'm unimaginative today;-)
*) Lack of clear editorial layout, rules and standards.
*) Lack of many properties which could easily automate knowledge searching, relationships, gathering and extracting. For instance using XML DTDs with one or more hierarchy structures.
*) Lack of multiple front-ends, like database query-support.
*) Lots of articles per entry, instead of one compiled article.
*) Lack of version control and diff-manipulations.
*) No pictures, no sounds, no videos. No tables, no graphs, no mathematic formula sheets.
I hope GNUPedia will meet these shortcomings properly. Don't get me wrong on Everything2, it's a nice system. It's just not perfect. Try some advanced, non-geek questions and you'll end up with a nodeshell. Try a geek-question, and get a geek-biased answer. Say this is all up to the users of the system, but it's still what it is.
Easy, try looking up "Free Software Foundation", "GNU" or "Open Source" in the online Britannica. There you have plenty of reasons for this:-)
I think this can be an excellent idea, if an article can be modified by others in a way so that the valueable modifications are read by the casual reader. However, it's a difficult project, which *should* have clear guidelines to creating articles and a database back-end to make things easier.
I'm no expert on this, so disregard this comment if it's completely off;-)
"RMS announced that he was going to create a free unix like system. So far he or his foundation has not produced one."
To my knowledge "they" have produced the Hurd, but it's not quite finished yet. I wouldn't hold my breath for it to get done either. However, if you are so anxious for RMS to produce an OS, why don't you help him, or have you completely misunderstood his concepts?
Also, the Linux kernel _is_ GPLed, so in an indirect way the FSF has actually "produced" an OS. However, as you can see, such credits are really old and meaningless in a true collaboratory environment.
"As long as it's using a non-GNU kernel, it ain't The GNU System. The closest you could get would be to call it the Linux OS with the GNU environment."
The Linux kernel is GNU-licensed.
"Oh! Did I mention? All of the POSIX layer stuff you're talking about is done in the KERNEL."
As I understood him, the GNU system is a _specification_ of an OS, or class of POSIX-compatible OSes, not one actual implementation. A layer is never implemented anywhere near where it is specified in the specification, but gets implemented in kernel and device drivers as a process.
It's a cool link, but aren't the works copyrighted? The whole idea of a free encyclopedia is that it is copylefted or public domain. You might as well use the online Britannica.
Sounds like a plan, but there's an itsy bitsy tiny flaw that you may have overlooked. Voice-over-IP, quality and latency way too poor for the machines to figure out before it's too late. The Yahoo-chat protocol would just be too proprietary to be blocked by any Open Source firewall.
That's a good point. I've had the same problems with accepting "VR-Death means Real-Death", and I think the movie *should* have elaborated on that matter to support the illusion better. Because it spoiled some of the illusion I had, being such an old clichee. Especially when it should be possible to hack these machines, so that you don't receieve such extreme inputs. But then again, real risk makes for exciting gambits, and if it was all just a game, it wouldn't be interesting enough. Watching them hack on the machines for hours until they cracked the Matrix, people would flee for home.
However, once again technology in fiction is treated as magic, and frankly that spoils a bit of the fun for me. Nothing a little double-thinking during the movie can't fix though.;)
On the dreaming stuff: I have never experienced sleep paralysis, but I've been awake and seen a spider/roach/something on the wall/in the bed that isn't really there. Basically, your whole mind tells you it's there, except your sanity/awakeness. I'm glad I'm not experiencing such nightmares very often. They can make you jump out of bed, even run out of the room. Though, when knowing what it is, a harmless hallucination, it's easier to confront the fear instead. I wouldn't like to experience a mix of that and sleep paralysis though! (Bet I just sealed my fate by saying that...:-)
It's probably more common to "fall down" when becoming awake, been there, done that. It's interesting how easily your senses can be fooled. That's what makes movies like The Matrix popular. Basically our minds are models of a "real" outer world we can never experience directly. Who's to say if this outer world exists at all? Maybe the irrational exists in non-existance? =)
"*If* there is any money left after RIAA processes it, the money goes to artists in proportion to their sales."
I'm not sure if this is just your wording, or wether you've got a source. But isn't the idea of piracy that artists don't get sales? If there were any justice, this tax would go to artists who are ripped off, not to those who actually sell their albums. Of course I know there's no justice, and can never be. But giving most money to those who sell most, smells like sweet hypocricy to me.
However, considering the new RIAA executives' payrolls, I doubt there'll be much left anyways, so this discussion is moot.
Btw, RIAA in france, sounds like a take-over of some sorts. I thought the French was nationalists, but are now suddenly willing to bend over. Long live the free market, long live RIAA! =)
You misunderstood me a bit I believe. I was proposing "rediscovery" of our planets (numbers, mass, etc) by only measuring the wobbling of our sun. Since our starsystem is the kind of starsystem we're most interested in, is the technique capable of detecting it properly?
Such a test might be another beast altogether though and not comparable with detecting planets in other solar systems. Just a thought though.
"It's only MORE secure because it had substandard security to begin with, and there is an army of admins out there that will fail to upgrade their installation to this "MORE secure" version."
Yes, how else could it be MORE secure? This follows from the definition of security holes itself. You can't have a security hole without a fault in the security...
As to your second argument, security is a process, not something you either have or don't have. Those failing to act on that, thinking they are secure, will always fall prey to those who spend more energy pursuing to crack a system. The appropriate action here would be to hire someone with a clue and willingness to do their job.
Basically, the security hole was there, source or not. When the source was released, it got recognized by the peer review process. Were it not for this, it would probably never have been detected. Only exploited by those who knew about it.. (Until someone have to do damage-repairs)
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"because in most cases porn serves no purpose other than to indulge the sexual fantasies of the viewer, while movies and the like usually aren't intended to make someone fantasize about commiting the crime."
So tell me Dr.Freud, why do we watch action-, and scary-movies? I think you hit the nail here without even seeing it.
However, playing with imagination is something _altogether different_, than doing it for real. But now, it's all made illegal, because of FUD.
"I think that if the courts take issue with virtual child porn they should also take issue with virtual rape (etc.) which is presented in a pornographic context."
Virtual rape and pornographic content to one, might be erotical art to another. How is people that got raped ever going to deal with it, if e.g making art about it is made illegal?
- Steeltoe
I don't know, sometimes all you've got to trust is your senses. I tend not to do that very often, but with nuclear power something tells me it just isn't right. It's not because I used to read Hulk, X-men and Spiderman either ;-)
Besides, I don't want transport of nuclear waste through our city, or along my coast. Seen the amount of accidents lately? More and more oil spills. We should be happy it's not nuclear waste. The long term effect is pretty devastating, far-reaching and long-lasting. Right now, I have no say in this matter. Russia and Japan is currently planning on transporting a freighter full of nuclear waste along the coast of Norway. Our coast is full of wreckages. Last year we had such accidents every single month.
Living in Norway, Chernobyl _affected_ my life. My health. However, noone has told me how or how much. Nobody knows how much it affected me and my genes. It was much worse for those living off the land in the north though. It's really sad how people _want_ to stay ignorant in such matters.
There have been many more such accidents all over the world, but the people behind the plants tend to hush it down. Using any tactic they can do to make their plant work, lying, stealing and cheating. I don't trust these managers for one second.
I have no problems with advancing science in that field. Except for detonating atomic bombs in other people's backyards. Which has happened frequently throughout the cold war. I just have a problem with the "cheapness" and "safety" of nuclear power, and that so-called rational people seem to totally disregard other people's opinion on it.
You may call it FUD if you like, but reading whitepapers won't teach you anything useful about the product. Try reading independent reviews, and you get another picture. I believe this is true both for software and nuclear power.
- Steeltoe
"People who use the "information wants to be free, create a utopia of information" argument won't win. People deserve to be paid for their creative works, and anything that contributes to the mass dissemination of content without the consent of the copyright holder should rightfully be stopped."
It sounds like money is the only reason people should do anything with their miserable lives. Kinda supports corporations, doesn't it? It's incredible that their propaganda has made people believe this so firmly, detaching themselves from themselves.
It's not impossible to create a community where people develop and share their ideas mutually. However, it requires these people to be interested in their work/play, the sharing-experience and be HAPPY. Sarcasm: Oh wait, this is now illegal, so let's throw that idea away.
I'm not advocating a new global economic model of gift-making and big & bloody revolutions. I just humbly request to lighten up and check out the possibilities. Leave any future utopias to the imagination and surprise.
- Steeltoe
To every Ying, there is a Yang. No valley can exist without surrounding hills. When you understand this, you see that noone is to blame. Things just ARE.
:-)
;-)
"Public ignorance and apathy are the reason we're losing these freedoms, not corporate greed and governmental corruption. Neither of those would have any power at all in a world of educated people who care about their rights."
So people need a reason to care about their rights, and so the universe will give them reasons. If you really think about it, we are given plenty!
- Steeltoe (in a wise-man mood today
People who care for the environment and well being of others, know that nuclear power is inherently a bad choice. I don't believe we know everything about nuclear fission, and that we will discover what really is going on when we split atoms. Mod me down all you like for meaning this, but it's my opinion and my responsibility to express it.
- Steeltoe
If you react without having a clue what is going on, you're part of the problem. It's pretty much like playing a chess-game. You may think you just made the most brilliant move, but get checkmated in 10-15 moves. My advice: Play chess! ;-)
Yes, we're in a cycle of global warming right now. Global warming and cooling has been happening on earth for millions and millions of years. It's natural, and I doubt we can interfere with it without bad side-effects. Now what is more important, is to reduce our own artificial factors from the equation by reducing our emission of pollutants like CO2. I fully agree on you on that.
- Steeltoe
AFAIK, the hit that did the dinosaurs, also did all tall vegetation and animals down to small lizards. However, it always depends what scientist you're asking.
- Steeltoe
If you had any useful knowledge at all to share, you'd know that the global warming we're having now is a natural cycle of the earth. Cycling between thousands of years, problems with CO2 emmisions are pretty much exhaggerated. Not that pollution isn't a serious problem we should deal with the proper way, but it's hardly to blame for the total global warming we've been having.
Your solution with battling pollution with pollution, I think your perception of the fault is to blame. You perceieve global warming as the problem. I can assure you, it is not. By putting an extra factor into the equation, you're not solving anything, but making the equation more complex. What if the dust reflects radiation from the earth, or reacts with the Ozone layer? Not very likely I know, but you can never know what'll happen. There's always an unforeseen side-effect.
Your argument of finding the cheapest solution, is the one that truly disgusts me. Instead of adapting to the problem and finding the best solution we can live with, you propose a hack to the air we live and breathe in? Why, when we have so many better alternatives. What is wrong with your equation is that when you calculate cost, you don't include the environment in your calculation.
However, you're right that we shouldn't rush into things and panic.
- Steeltoe
I know what he would think. That this shows how cross licensing hampers free software. While I understand this, I can also understand Sun's position. They have really no control on how the GPL will develop in later versions. So to them it probably made sense to cross license.
- Steeltoe
Sadly, the human brain is hardly 100% censorware. The results vary greatly from brain to brain..
- Steeltoe
"X2000 .. what's the top-of-the-line railway system in Sweden got to do with this .. ? :)"
Okay, okay... X00 it is then!
- Steeltoe
It doesn't matter if Webcrawler indexed pages long before the patent was issued if they never described the technology in public. They could have been 100 years before the patent, but still would have to pay for license when the patent goes into action.
- Steeltoe
Haha, to me those buzzwords sounds like crap. HTML = outdated. Javascript = ugly and crippled. DVB = they got a friggin' flash-intro on their site! *flees* MHP = ugly and highly confusing website. Mozilla = too bloated and buggy. X86 = remnicents from '86, should have been put to death ages ago. Why can't Intel wisen up and call it X2000? ;-)
"But Windows 2000, even if it's "based" in a theoretical UNIX world, is still Windows reality"
Windows 2000 is not POSIX-compatible and does not include any *NIX-tools. Perhaps with Cygwin, but that's hardly to Microsoft's merit.
Btw, do you honestly believe someone would build/has built a multitasking OS without process IDs (or something equivalent)?
- Steeltoe
I can't help but wonder how they do that. Nanotech upgrading the TV-set? :-)
- Steeltoe
I think most of Slashdot is missing out of the real story here. The national register is including many types of spam; over snail-mail, E-mail and telephone. Combined with these are many categories you can freely choose to opt-out of, like advertisements, free newspapers, statistical queries, humanitarian/non-profit organisations and so on. Every company and organisation sending out unsolicited spam, must wash their spam-lists against this register before sending out their piles of junk.
However, being a customer or member, they have a right to send you material and the whole issue gets a bit shadier. Also, this will not prevent rogue spammers or companies originating in foreign countries.
All in all, I believe this is a great innitiative. A central register like this means much less hassle in opting-out. Eg, many postmen blatantly ignore the stickers you can put on your mailboxes. They get extra paid for delivering spam. I only hope this'll work.
- Steeltoe
If violence makes for justice, then there is justice in executing you. Good troll though. It was fun to read! :-)
- Steeltoe
There are several disadvantages of Everything2. Here are some, not all, I'm unimaginative today ;-)
*) Lack of clear editorial layout, rules and standards.
*) Lack of many properties which could easily automate knowledge searching, relationships, gathering and extracting. For instance using XML DTDs with one or more hierarchy structures.
*) Lack of multiple front-ends, like database query-support.
*) Lots of articles per entry, instead of one compiled article.
*) Lack of version control and diff-manipulations.
*) No pictures, no sounds, no videos. No tables, no graphs, no mathematic formula sheets.
I hope GNUPedia will meet these shortcomings properly. Don't get me wrong on Everything2, it's a nice system. It's just not perfect. Try some advanced, non-geek questions and you'll end up with a nodeshell. Try a geek-question, and get a geek-biased answer. Say this is all up to the users of the system, but it's still what it is.
- Steeltoe
Easy, try looking up "Free Software Foundation", "GNU" or "Open Source" in the online Britannica. There you have plenty of reasons for this :-)
I think this can be an excellent idea, if an article can be modified by others in a way so that the valueable modifications are read by the casual reader. However, it's a difficult project, which *should* have clear guidelines to creating articles and a database back-end to make things easier.
- Steeltoe
I'm no expert on this, so disregard this comment if it's completely off ;-)
"RMS announced that he was going to create a free unix like system. So far he or his foundation has not produced one."
To my knowledge "they" have produced the Hurd, but it's not quite finished yet. I wouldn't hold my breath for it to get done either. However, if you are so anxious for RMS to produce an OS, why don't you help him, or have you completely misunderstood his concepts?
Also, the Linux kernel _is_ GPLed, so in an indirect way the FSF has actually "produced" an OS. However, as you can see, such credits are really old and meaningless in a true collaboratory environment.
"As long as it's using a non-GNU kernel, it ain't The GNU System. The closest you could get would be to call it the Linux OS with the GNU environment."
The Linux kernel is GNU-licensed.
"Oh! Did I mention? All of the POSIX layer stuff you're talking about is done in the KERNEL."
As I understood him, the GNU system is a _specification_ of an OS, or class of POSIX-compatible OSes, not one actual implementation. A layer is never implemented anywhere near where it is specified in the specification, but gets implemented in kernel and device drivers as a process.
- Steeltoe
It's a cool link, but aren't the works copyrighted? The whole idea of a free encyclopedia is that it is copylefted or public domain. You might as well use the online Britannica.
- Steeltoe
- Steeltoe
That's a good point. I've had the same problems with accepting "VR-Death means Real-Death", and I think the movie *should* have elaborated on that matter to support the illusion better. Because it spoiled some of the illusion I had, being such an old clichee. Especially when it should be possible to hack these machines, so that you don't receieve such extreme inputs. But then again, real risk makes for exciting gambits, and if it was all just a game, it wouldn't be interesting enough. Watching them hack on the machines for hours until they cracked the Matrix, people would flee for home.
;)
:-)
However, once again technology in fiction is treated as magic, and frankly that spoils a bit of the fun for me. Nothing a little double-thinking during the movie can't fix though.
On the dreaming stuff: I have never experienced sleep paralysis, but I've been awake and seen a spider/roach/something on the wall/in the bed that isn't really there. Basically, your whole mind tells you it's there, except your sanity/awakeness. I'm glad I'm not experiencing such nightmares very often. They can make you jump out of bed, even run out of the room. Though, when knowing what it is, a harmless hallucination, it's easier to confront the fear instead. I wouldn't like to experience a mix of that and sleep paralysis though! (Bet I just sealed my fate by saying that...
It's probably more common to "fall down" when becoming awake, been there, done that. It's interesting how easily your senses can be fooled. That's what makes movies like The Matrix popular. Basically our minds are models of a "real" outer world we can never experience directly. Who's to say if this outer world exists at all? Maybe the irrational exists in non-existance? =)
- Steeltoe
"*If* there is any money left after RIAA processes it, the money goes to artists in proportion to their sales."
I'm not sure if this is just your wording, or wether you've got a source. But isn't the idea of piracy that artists don't get sales? If there were any justice, this tax would go to artists who are ripped off, not to those who actually sell their albums. Of course I know there's no justice, and can never be. But giving most money to those who sell most, smells like sweet hypocricy to me.
However, considering the new RIAA executives' payrolls, I doubt there'll be much left anyways, so this discussion is moot.
Btw, RIAA in france, sounds like a take-over of some sorts. I thought the French was nationalists, but are now suddenly willing to bend over. Long live the free market, long live RIAA! =)
- Steeltoe
You misunderstood me a bit I believe. I was proposing "rediscovery" of our planets (numbers, mass, etc) by only measuring the wobbling of our sun. Since our starsystem is the kind of starsystem we're most interested in, is the technique capable of detecting it properly?
Such a test might be another beast altogether though and not comparable with detecting planets in other solar systems. Just a thought though.
- Steeltoe
"It's only MORE secure because it had substandard security to begin with, and there is an army of admins out there that will fail to upgrade their installation to this "MORE secure" version."
Yes, how else could it be MORE secure? This follows from the definition of security holes itself. You can't have a security hole without a fault in the security...
As to your second argument, security is a process, not something you either have or don't have. Those failing to act on that, thinking they are secure, will always fall prey to those who spend more energy pursuing to crack a system. The appropriate action here would be to hire someone with a clue and willingness to do their job.
Basically, the security hole was there, source or not. When the source was released, it got recognized by the peer review process. Were it not for this, it would probably never have been detected. Only exploited by those who knew about it.. (Until someone have to do damage-repairs)
- Steeltoe