I've been consulting for about 20 years, and before that I did classified work for one of those customers, so I've dealt with the same problem extensively. It's really not that big a problem.
First, it's not an unknown issue for the people reading your resume -- they know about NDAs, and probably are under one themselves. So they'll understand, in general at least.
Second, being in an NDA doesn't mean you can't say anything. Quantifiy what you did in terms that will matter to a potential employer ("improved transaction rate to 500 tps, a 75 percent improvement") without associating the information with an identifiable employer ("In a project under non-disclosure for a Fortune 50 firm"). List the firms you've worked for as "Consulting clients include" so that people know who you've worked for in general, without making that association. Or, if the very fact that you worked with a firm is under NDA (betcha it isn't), then list the company that was paying you your paycheck, and say "Working for Big Deal Consulting, Inc.; Consulted to Fortune 50 clients...."
(Notice, by the way, that if you were working independently, the fact that you were working for a client is public record; you deposited the checks which had a name and account number on them. Even if you were working for a DoD agency, the check says DoD, or "Maryland Procurement Office", or something.)
Third, be prepared to talk about the tasks you did in the interview. Again, what you did as an engineer isn't all that sensitive -- it's the association between the specfifics of the problem and the company that's sensitive.
I've wondered the same thing. Oh, it's nice having 24-bit color, and believe me we do things graphically in real time now that required a Cray-1 and a Dicomed film recorder (never mind; just read as "millions of dollars") to do as an overnight batch job when I got into this graphic madness.
But, as an experiment, I did up a wimpy little laptop with TECO, a couple of compilers, and a simple linux; it flat screams and it'd cost, oh, $100. EMACS runs well on it too -- and it should: the laptop has more power than the PDP 11/70 that was shared by 40 grad students when I was in grad school in 1983. What it can't do is massive bitblt operations to let me use some double-plus-ugly ransom-note font for my email.
Right, but Nash's Prize (strictly, a Nobel Memorial Prize, it was created and funded after Novbel died) was for economics. Nash equilibrium is very useful in economics.
Actually, I tried to work that out once. (I think I did it on my own rather than after reading the story you mention, but I no longer recall.) While the space of all possible tunes is, indeed, finite, the fact that we use chords and chord progressions, and that there are 14 different durations (quaver, semiquaver, etc, and the triplet variations), along with different keys, accidentals, and so on make the space extremely large.
The other way the story is being told is that the guy wouldn't accept if Dr D was on it too. They had a long and bitter fight over priority which Dr D won.
And your point would be? Damadian had the first insight, and (after some battles) the patents list him as among the inventors. In theory, the Nobel is awarded for the scientific advance, rather than the engineering refinement of the idea.
You'd have done better to have stopped at the first dot. "That's just." Rosalind Franklin is an excellent example -- someone needs to keep the Nobel Committee's feet to the fire.
In this case, the guy made the seminal discovery, he's on the patents, and he's been associated with it from the start. To be left off the Prize is... well, questionable at best, and if (as has been suggested) it's because the poor guy became religious, it's despicable.
I'm sorry, but you're, how to say it, wrong. I'm fluent in German and manage literary Chinese, and I can tell you from experience how unsatisfactory translations are.
And... you can't tell me from experience that I'm wrong.
Yeah, after all, if you learn another language all you get is a whole new area of literature to read, a whole different culture that opens itself to you, and a new and different way of thinking. Not worth the trouble, eh?
I'm serious: in the spirit of "pair programming" and "egoless programming", make "cheating" or collaboration permissible. Just point out that the submissions had better not look identical, and make them disclose who they're collaborating with. If you think there are one or two students who are supplying the whole group, cut them out and give then different assignments.
I've worked with this kind of notion both as a student and as a professor, and I'm convinced that it actually leads to overall better learning -- as well as letting me relax and not get all het up about it.
Loved to see this, as it matches my experience. Oh, I'm mostly an EMACS user, but when I'm not feeling religious I happily use vi -- say a quick script when I'm su'ed.
When I'm writing fiction, screenplays, or other prose, I just use EMACS text mode, except that recently i've been using emacs-wiki mode. (See here for details.)
All that other crap in Word etc just gets in the way.
(I will say I really liked Word for DOS 6.0, the one that got the new interface but kept regular old character-mode text and style-sheets. Leave it to Microsoft to come up with something really workable, and EOL it.)
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I've been consulting for about 20 years, and before that I did classified work for one of those customers, so I've dealt with the same problem extensively. It's really not that big a problem.
First, it's not an unknown issue for the people reading your resume -- they know about NDAs, and probably are under one themselves. So they'll understand, in general at least.
Second, being in an NDA doesn't mean you can't say anything. Quantifiy what you did in terms that will matter to a potential employer ("improved transaction rate to 500 tps, a 75 percent improvement") without associating the information with an identifiable employer ("In a project under non-disclosure for a Fortune 50 firm"). List the firms you've worked for as "Consulting clients include" so that people know who you've worked for in general, without making that association. Or, if the very fact that you worked with a firm is under NDA (betcha it isn't), then list the company that was paying you your paycheck, and say "Working for Big Deal Consulting, Inc.; Consulted to Fortune 50 clients...."
(Notice, by the way, that if you were working independently, the fact that you were working for a client is public record; you deposited the checks which had a name and account number on them. Even if you were working for a DoD agency, the check says DoD, or "Maryland Procurement Office", or something.)
Third, be prepared to talk about the tasks you did in the interview. Again, what you did as an engineer isn't all that sensitive -- it's the association between the specfifics of the problem and the company that's sensitive.
I'll have a coffe and two doughnuts.
The wisdom of age.
Both are actually considered correct.
Oh, just shut the fuck up.
A little quibble, but this should be written as "no one could get patents." It took AT&T years to get the "setuid bit" patent granted.
I've wondered the same thing. Oh, it's nice having 24-bit color, and believe me we do things graphically in real time now that required a Cray-1 and a Dicomed film recorder (never mind; just read as "millions of dollars") to do as an overnight batch job when I got into this graphic madness.
But, as an experiment, I did up a wimpy little laptop with TECO, a couple of compilers, and a simple linux; it flat screams and it'd cost, oh, $100. EMACS runs well on it too -- and it should: the laptop has more power than the PDP 11/70 that was shared by 40 grad students when I was in grad school in 1983. What it can't do is massive bitblt operations to let me use some double-plus-ugly ransom-note font for my email.
... by tellimg me I'm wrong to be of the opinion that they made a mistake? Go ahead, cut them that slack.
And cut me the slack to have a different opinion.
Right, but Nash's Prize (strictly, a Nobel Memorial Prize, it was created and funded after Novbel died) was for economics. Nash equilibrium is very useful in economics.
... by telling me that you are the final arbiter of what is correct and what isn't?
Can't have it both ways, pup.
Bad day at work?
Just because they think they're right doesn't mean they are. Where do you get off telling me what I should say?
Actually, I tried to work that out once. (I think I did it on my own rather than after reading the story you mention, but I no longer recall.) While the space of all possible tunes is, indeed, finite, the fact that we use chords and chord progressions, and that there are 14 different durations (quaver, semiquaver, etc, and the triplet variations), along with different keys, accidentals, and so on make the space extremely large.
The other way the story is being told is that the guy wouldn't accept if Dr D was on it too. They had a long and bitter fight over priority which Dr D won.
And your point would be? Damadian had the first insight, and (after some battles) the patents list him as among the inventors. In theory, the Nobel is awarded for the scientific advance, rather than the engineering refinement of the idea.
Yeah, something like that. More like not awarding someone tenure someplace for being gay.
Because the Nobel Committee makes such a thing about their high-minded moral purpose.
You'd have done better to have stopped at the first dot. "That's just." Rosalind Franklin is an excellent example -- someone needs to keep the Nobel Committee's feet to the fire.
... well, questionable at best, and if (as has been suggested) it's because the poor guy became religious, it's despicable.
In this case, the guy made the seminal discovery, he's on the patents, and he's been associated with it from the start. To be left off the Prize is
Says someone who doesn't speak a second language.
... you can't tell me from experience that I'm wrong.
I'm sorry, but you're, how to say it, wrong. I'm fluent in German and manage literary Chinese, and I can tell you from experience how unsatisfactory translations are.
And
Yeah, after all, if you learn another language all you get is a whole new area of literature to read, a whole different culture that opens itself to you, and a new and different way of thinking. Not worth the trouble, eh?
Here's a radical notion: legalize it.
I'm serious: in the spirit of "pair programming" and "egoless programming", make "cheating" or collaboration permissible. Just point out that the submissions had better not look identical, and make them disclose who they're collaborating with. If you think there are one or two students who are supplying the whole group, cut them out and give then different assignments.
I've worked with this kind of notion both as a student and as a professor, and I'm convinced that it actually leads to overall better learning -- as well as letting me relax and not get all het up about it.
Surely the USB adapter to let you run your USB coffee warmer on house current is the last thing you'd call an "off the wall" USB product.
Hooray for the Heinleins. I guess I wondered what would happen when Ginny died; I can't think of any more suitable memorial.
Here's what you do:
(1) figure out how valuable the data really is: what would it cost you if it were disclosed.
(2) figure out who you really want to have access to the data, and under what rules. (This is called a "security policy").
(3) Figure out a way to enforce (2) without exceeding (1).
Loved to see this, as it matches my experience. Oh, I'm mostly an EMACS user, but when I'm not feeling religious I happily use vi -- say a quick script when I'm su'ed.
When I'm writing fiction, screenplays, or other prose, I just use EMACS text mode, except that recently i've been using emacs-wiki mode. (See here for details.)
All that other crap in Word etc just gets in the way.
(I will say I really liked Word for DOS 6.0, the one that got the new interface but kept regular old character-mode text and style-sheets. Leave it to Microsoft to come up with something really workable, and EOL it.)