I know the problems with so few management jobs available. What I am saying is that I believe that general day to day programming as we know is leaving the US and I believe that people in US who want to stay valuable need to focus on more on the complex spaces between specific technolgies than the technologies themselves. We all know how to make the parts the power comes from understanding the integration.
I had a complex dev project with 50 US programmers. Keep 5 brightest US programmers as project coordinators managers. Hire 70 programmers in India to do the implementation and still save money.
Is it the right thing? I don't know it's just what I see going on. But I see US programming jobs moving towards R&D and Process Automation over the next 15 years. Will I be right...no idea. Take a look at what the big players are doing and saying and let me know what you think. They have systems building systems on the chip side you know software in on the way. Tech is moving from the code/chip level to the system/network level....It's a function of integration. It's just my thought....your mileage may vary.
Since, you brought it up. When I said the politics are a bitch I meant it. When I took that promotion I laid off several members of the team I took over. Why? They where under performing. I replace them with qualified people from my old department who would have been laid-off themselves. As Dir of security I oversaw the lay-offs of 400 people within the company. Only 3 where my decision. I fought to keep the people that where loyal to me and did their jobs well. Thats all any manager can do. I put my ass on the line for my team and it cost me. I made political enemies and later I was laid-off. Would I do it again? Yes. I had a team of great techies working for me they where loyal to me and I was loyal to them. Thats what I want in a manager because I didn't have it when I was starting out.
Is management tough? Yes, you have to make tough choices not just should we use Linux or Solaris but who is going to get a paycheck next week or should we lay off so and so because his wife just died of cancer last month.
I know it's frowned upon but I love being a tech manager. I get to work with great people on interesting projects that may someday change the way people think. It's already happend once in my lifetime. I get to see tech evolve like most people don't because I am not focused on one specifc area. I can understand coders who are writing the platform and talk to the ops guys who are build the systems. I get to see the big picture and where it's going.
It's great. But there are still 400 people I walked out the door. I just tried to make it as painless as possible under the circustances. I could lead my team but not the company. I didn't think a company could spend 300 mil in 4 years and have nothing to show for it. Shows you how good I am at understanding management.
Selling trinkets to cruise ships. If I had to sell trinkets to cruise ship passengers to feed my family I would. It has nothing to do with the price of an office suite. It means that there is no need for office suites. There is no oppurtunity to use one whether it is free or not.
These trinkets are usually hand made by familys to be sold. It's a family business designed to fit their markets and has to do with the "bandwitdth" of their ecomony and not the price of an office suite.
The US economy has a ton a bandwidth to support many industries. Just because they don't doesn't mean it's bad for them.
Begin Rant I'd much rather sell a "trinket" than stand on the corner begging for cash for food.
It's not like OSS doesn't have a need for trinkets. Look at ThinkGeek.com selling trinkets to geeks. Ooooh look at the shiny light on my new Mach 3 combination LED flashlight, key chain, bottle opener, tire repair kit. Or my desktop refrigerator that holds a 6 pack of Geek Drink of Choice, or caffinated soap. What the fuck is caffinated soap for? Maybe it's for removing the blue thinking goo from my ass when I sat on it in my new ergonomic Quake Battle Chair.
Maybe our economy has too much bandwidth. End Rant
My wifes family moved to from Jamacia to the US when she was 3. a few years ago we went to Jamacia and she was upset to see how poor the country was compaired to the US. The fact is as with most Caribbean nations more Jamaicans live outside Jamaica than live there. This is due to a lack of oppurtunity at home. If the people in these nations have more access to OSS or any technology it's a very good thing. They have more oppurtunity for education and we get more skilled immigrants.
The US is an immigrant nation and for the past few years population growth in the US is being fueled by immigration because fewer US citizens are having kids. It only makes sense to outsource our our needs to countries with high migration rates to the US. South America and Asia. That way we increase our skilled population base.
People like to attribute this to evil globalism or money grubbing multinationals but it's simple. If we don't have generations of skilled workers in this country it will cease to exist.This is not a bad thing for the US.
Off topic but inspired: Common OS to User Compatitbility Chart MacOS is the equivalent of the trophy wife looks good fairly stable but but expensive. Doesn't like to do things her dad (Steve) didn't intend.
Windows is the equivalent of the reformed catholic school girl. Looks pretty good. Okay on the pocketbook. And if you press the right buttons you can get it to do something nasty. (I think this is smething unconcious on Bills part)
OSS is a golem. Doesn't look very good but it's basically unstopable. Like Rosy O'Donnel on PCP.
I married on windows girl and have OSX on the side:) Anyone else want to contribute?
Basic programming jobs will leave the US. As applications get more complex there is less incentive to hire local programmers to do basic code work. I can hire foreigners to do the grunt work or use OSS toolkits/libraries to save money. I can then put that money into my core business which is marketing. Everyone that works at a software hous knows that marketing runs the show.
Th US has always exported jobs. I started in IT in 1989 as an IT Manager and have avoided the development and engineering jobs like the plauge because they where being outsourced. In 1994 I changed my focus from IT Managment to security because better network management tools had arrived an made it easier to outsource IT Management. Through the 90s I watched my IT friends getting laid off as the companies they worked for outsource management to IBM, Exodus, C&W,... In 2003 I took a promotion from Dir of Corp. Security to Dir of Production Operations and was laid off several months later after increasing uptime and everything else. Did I know that I would probably loose my job by taking the promotion? Yup! As a start-up on the decline I realised my director of sec. position was irrelevant so I angled for the Dir of Ops job which was very relevant to the company. I got the job and made improvements which benefited the company and I probably expended my employemt by over a year. Because I took the initiative to provide a service that my company needed I made out pretty well in the severance area.
It's up to me to make my self relevant to US employers and I have found that the easiest way is through being in management (though the politics are a bitch). You can't make an impact or change the world if you are locked in cube coding our trapped behind 15 miles of cable in a server room.
It's simple spend the money on the process now or spend it later. Companies have processes because they reduce the risks. The risk is if you get hit by a bus tommorrow all your projects may die with you. Because you did not follow the standard process your replacement may take twice as long getting up to speed where you left off. You are paid to follow the process and devliver a product.
Now if the process is too inflexable for your business maybe it's time to revise the process or implement tools to make the process more efficient.
Process and policies may be a pain in the ass or seem like a waste of time/money but they do serve a purpose. They let everyone know what the rules of the game are.
When I need to step outside of a process I tell my boss that this product/project will be late because of a breakdown in the process and I get them to waive the requirement...never hurts to follow up with email.
Marketeers like to think of themselves as visionaries shaping a new world. So while your half way through the current project they are dreaming up the next great thing. They may need to be dragged back to reality and the process should help you do that. A good process should keep everyones eye on the ball...the same ball.
As someone who performs security code reviews on outsourced code I can say that this happens all the time. When everyone was outsourcing code to india for y2k work we found back doors all over the place. Everyone does it. It's a form of R&D. Give coutry X project review technical capabilities of coutry X people.
Apple says FU to to Adobe by releaseing iGimp as a free replacement for Photoshop pushing Adobe away from Mac platform entirely. In a related note Microsoft chairman Bill Gates sent a memo to Adobe management welcoming them to his playground.
I live on a sailboat. My boat is based on a traditional schooner design from about 100 years ago. But that is about as traditional as it gets. My hull is aluminium, masts are carbon fiber, lines are spectra, sails are dacron. I also have solar panels, GPS, radar, diesel generator, and sat phone. Because of this I can work from anywhere in the world and post to slashdot from N1820.153 W07820.305.
I think sports tech goes overboard though when it costs over 100 million to put a F1 team together for a season or several hundred million to be competitive in an Americas Cup Challenge.
But everytime I try and type it into my Mac Steves head fills my 23" cinema display and tells me I need to listen closer to the next keynote. I think it's a security feature.
This is not a problem of federal agencies forcing their will on the states. This problem is caused by the supreme court abdicating their responsibilites. 2 weeks ago they declared a state law on sodomy unconstitutional. This too is an ecroachment on states rights. While I disagree with the law I don't think the court should have got involved on this issue.
When I joined the military many moons ago I to an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the US (among other things) an oath I still believe in today. What bothers me is that all of our elected officials take pretty much the same oath and they don't follow it. This concerns me because it's such a simple concept.
This is standard practice in the military. And most survival books recommend wrapping duct tape around something other than the standard roll to make it easy to store and carry around. Now if he would have come up with an easy way to remove the crappy residue after it sits in the sun for 2 hours i'd be impressed.
I ordered mine from Atlas Books a few days ago for $102.95 with shipping. At that time I could not find it at Amazon. The price is a bit steep but it's less than the $3500 for the class.
This is all because Cisco and Sun dumped so much cheap equipment on the market during the bubble. With the way the gray market is right now I won't have to buy anything new until 2017. The best thing that could happen would be for them to buy back all the gear they flooded the market with.
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I know the problems with so few management jobs available. What I am saying is that I believe that general day to day programming as we know is leaving the US and I believe that people in US who want to stay valuable need to focus on more on the complex spaces between specific technolgies than the technologies themselves. We all know how to make the parts the power comes from understanding the integration.
It's only bad during elections :)
Cool, another modern IT person.
I had a complex dev project with 50 US programmers. Keep 5 brightest US programmers as project coordinators managers. Hire 70 programmers in India to do the implementation and still save money.
Is it the right thing? I don't know it's just what I see going on. But I see US programming jobs moving towards R&D and Process Automation over the next 15 years. Will I be right...no idea. Take a look at what the big players are doing and saying and let me know what you think.
They have systems building systems on the chip side you know software in on the way. Tech is moving from the code/chip level to the system/network level....It's a function of integration. It's just my thought....your mileage may vary.
Since, you brought it up. When I said the politics are a bitch I meant it. When I took that promotion I laid off several members of the team I took over. Why? They where under performing. I replace them with qualified people from my old department who would have been laid-off themselves. As Dir of security I oversaw the lay-offs of 400 people within the company. Only 3 where my decision. I fought to keep the people that where loyal to me and did their jobs well. Thats all any manager can do. I put my ass on the line for my team and it cost me. I made political enemies and later I was laid-off. Would I do it again? Yes. I had a team of great techies working for me they where loyal to me and I was loyal to them. Thats what I want in a manager because I didn't have it when I was starting out.
Is management tough? Yes, you have to make tough choices not just should we use Linux or Solaris but who is going to get a paycheck next week or should we lay off so and so because his wife just died of cancer last month.
I know it's frowned upon but I love being a tech manager. I get to work with great people on interesting projects that may someday change the way people think. It's already happend once in my lifetime. I get to see tech evolve like most people don't because I am not focused on one specifc area. I can understand coders who are writing the platform and talk to the ops guys who are build the systems. I get to see the big picture and where it's going.
It's great. But there are still 400 people I walked out the door. I just tried to make it as painless as possible under the circustances. I could lead my team but not the company. I didn't think a company could spend 300 mil in 4 years and have nothing to show for it. Shows you how good I am at understanding management.
Selling trinkets to cruise ships. If I had to sell trinkets to cruise ship passengers to feed my family I would. It has nothing to do with the price of an office suite. It means that there is no need for office suites. There is no oppurtunity to use one whether it is free or not.
These trinkets are usually hand made by familys to be sold. It's a family business designed to fit their markets and has to do with the "bandwitdth" of their ecomony and
not the price of an office suite.
The US economy has a ton a bandwidth to support many industries. Just because they don't doesn't mean it's bad for them.
Begin Rant
I'd much rather sell a "trinket" than stand on the corner begging for cash for food.
It's not like OSS doesn't have a need for trinkets. Look at ThinkGeek.com selling trinkets to geeks. Ooooh look at the shiny light on my new Mach 3 combination LED flashlight, key chain, bottle opener, tire repair kit. Or my desktop refrigerator that holds a 6 pack of Geek Drink of Choice, or caffinated soap. What the fuck is caffinated soap for? Maybe it's for removing the blue thinking goo from my ass when I sat on it in my new ergonomic Quake Battle Chair.
Maybe our economy has too much bandwidth.
End Rant
You IP address has been noted and the OSS Inquisition has been dispatched. Slowly step away from the computer and place your hands above your head.
You will be assim....errrr...not be harmed.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Kingston isn't that bad. But I wouldn't mind hearing "Slashback! Live from Kingston"
My wifes family moved to from Jamacia to the US when she was 3. a few years ago we went to Jamacia and she was upset to see how poor the country was compaired to the US. The fact is as with most Caribbean nations more Jamaicans live outside Jamaica than live there. This is due to a lack of oppurtunity at home. If the people in these nations have more access to OSS or any technology it's a very good thing. They have more oppurtunity for education and we get more skilled immigrants.
The US is an immigrant nation and for the past few years population growth in the US is being fueled by immigration because fewer US citizens are having kids. It only makes sense to outsource our our needs to countries with high migration rates to the US. South America and Asia. That way we increase our skilled population base.
People like to attribute this to evil globalism or money grubbing multinationals but it's simple. If we don't have generations of skilled workers in this country it will cease to exist.This is not a bad thing for the US.
Off topic but inspired:
:)
Common OS to User Compatitbility Chart
MacOS is the equivalent of the trophy wife looks good fairly stable but but expensive. Doesn't like to do things her dad (Steve) didn't intend.
Windows is the equivalent of the reformed catholic school girl. Looks pretty good. Okay on the pocketbook. And if you press the right buttons you can get it to do something nasty. (I think this is smething unconcious on Bills part)
OSS is a golem. Doesn't look very good but it's basically unstopable. Like Rosy O'Donnel on PCP.
I married on windows girl and have OSX on the side
Anyone else want to contribute?
Basic programming jobs will leave the US. As applications get more complex there is less incentive to hire local programmers to do basic code work. I can hire foreigners to do the grunt work or use OSS toolkits/libraries to save money. I can then put that money into my core business which is marketing. Everyone that works at a software hous knows that marketing runs the show.
... In 2003 I took a promotion from Dir of Corp. Security to Dir of Production Operations and was laid off several months later after increasing uptime and everything else. Did I know that I would probably loose my job by taking the promotion? Yup! As a start-up on the decline I realised my director of sec. position was irrelevant so I angled for the Dir of Ops job which was very relevant to the company. I got the job and made improvements which benefited the company and I probably expended my employemt by over a year. Because I took the initiative to provide a service that my company needed I made out pretty well in the severance area.
Th US has always exported jobs. I started in IT in 1989 as an IT Manager and have avoided the development and engineering jobs like the plauge because they where being outsourced. In 1994 I changed my focus from IT Managment to security because better network management tools had arrived an made it easier to outsource IT Management. Through the 90s I watched my IT friends getting laid off as the companies they worked for outsource management to IBM, Exodus, C&W,
It's up to me to make my self relevant to US employers and I have found that the easiest way is through being in management (though the politics are a bitch). You can't make an impact or change the world if you are locked in cube coding our trapped behind 15 miles of cable in a server room.
It's simple spend the money on the process now or spend it later. Companies have processes because they reduce the risks. The risk is if you get hit by a bus tommorrow all your projects may die with you. Because you did not follow the standard process your replacement may take twice as long getting up to speed where you left off. You are paid to follow the process and devliver a product.
Now if the process is too inflexable for your business maybe it's time to revise the process or implement tools to make the process more efficient.
Process and policies may be a pain in the ass or seem like a waste of time/money but they do serve a purpose. They let everyone know what the rules of the game are.
When I need to step outside of a process I tell my boss that this product/project will be late because of a breakdown in the process and I get them to waive the requirement...never hurts to follow up with email.
Marketeers like to think of themselves as visionaries shaping a new world. So while your half way through the current project they are dreaming up the next great thing. They may need to be dragged back to reality and the process should help you do that. A good process should keep everyones eye on the ball...the same ball.
My random thoughts on the subject.
As someone who performs security code reviews on outsourced code I can say that this happens all the time. When everyone was outsourcing code to india for y2k work we found back doors all over the place. Everyone does it. It's a form of R&D. Give coutry X project review technical capabilities of coutry X people.
Apple says FU to to Adobe by releaseing iGimp as a free replacement for Photoshop pushing Adobe away from Mac platform entirely. In a related note Microsoft chairman Bill Gates sent a memo to Adobe management welcoming them to his playground.
I live on a sailboat. My boat is based on a traditional schooner design from about 100 years ago. But that is about as traditional as it gets. My hull is aluminium, masts are carbon fiber, lines are spectra, sails are dacron. I also have solar panels, GPS, radar, diesel generator, and sat phone. Because of this I can work from anywhere in the world and post to slashdot from N1820.153 W07820.305.
I think sports tech goes overboard though when it costs over 100 million to put a F1 team together for a season or several hundred million to be competitive in an Americas Cup Challenge.
But everytime I try and type it into my Mac Steves head fills my 23" cinema display and tells me I need to listen closer to the next keynote. I think it's a security feature.
Thus the infamous flaming duct tape battles of Desert Storm.
As a testiment to the poor quality of the education system in California the previous post should read "it's time to start electing real people".
I'LL BE BAHK!
Just say no to politicians. It's tile to start electing real people.
This post is paid for by the friends of FooGoo.
Please vote for FooGoo as the next governor of California.
This is not a problem of federal agencies forcing their will on the states. This problem is caused by the supreme court abdicating their responsibilites. 2 weeks ago they declared a state law on sodomy unconstitutional. This too is an ecroachment on states rights. While I disagree with the law I don't think the court should have got involved on this issue.
When I joined the military many moons ago I to an oath to protect and defend the constitution of the US (among other things) an oath I still believe in today. What bothers me is that all of our elected officials take pretty much the same oath and they don't follow it. This concerns me because it's such a simple concept.
This is standard practice in the military. And most survival books recommend wrapping duct tape around something other than the standard roll to make it easy to store and carry around. Now if he would have come up with an easy way to remove the crappy residue after it sits in the sun for 2 hours i'd be impressed.
The only benchmarks that matter is my impression of the system while using the apps I use. Everything else is opinion.
I ordered mine from Atlas Books a few days ago for $102.95 with shipping. At that time I could not find it at Amazon. The price is a bit steep but it's less than the $3500 for the class.
This is all because Cisco and Sun dumped so much cheap equipment on the market during the bubble. With the way the gray market is right now I won't have to buy anything new until 2017. The best thing that could happen would be for them to buy back all the gear they flooded the market with.
Anytime you walk through a store...any store...any gas station even. You go through and RFID reader.